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1 BDaviscar@aol.com 19Re: Waxoyl
2 Lucena [lito@oasys.dt.na14Re: Hellas
3 chrisste@clark.net (Chri11Re: Waxoyl
4 BDaviscar@aol.com 26Re: won't start (Series stuff)
5 ASFCO@aol.com 12Re: PNWTTC Postponed
6 ASFCO@aol.com 14Re: Waxoyl
7 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 14Waxoyl
8 "Ron Franklin" [oldhaven25(Fwd) Re: tigers in maine(and Labrador)
9 "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa17Re: 15"x6 1/2" wheel adapters
10 Wdcockey@aol.com 7TEST - NO CONTENT
11 emshearer@dominet.in.com12WAXOL for eigine care
12 admin@po.cle.ab.com (ccM10ccMail SMTPLINK Undeliverable Message
13 SACME@aol.com 34Re: SIII cold starting difficulties
14 SACME@aol.com 40Series Wiper Blades
15 "Marc Rengers" [Marc.Ren25Splitting ?? What?? Oh NO!!!!!
16 "Marc Rengers" [Marc.Ren31RE: 110 questions
17 [RALPH@smuggits.mhs.comp15Re:Seats
18 morison@alumni.caltech.e40split list & prejudice
19 "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove53RE: split list & prejudice
20 IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILL35Life's a breeze
21 ASFCO@aol.com 8Re: Splitting ?? What?? Oh NO!!!!!
22 fhyap@ix.netcom.com (Fra8Waxoyl
23 Chua Hian Koon [gischk@s6[not specified]
24 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca18[not specified]
25 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn31Famous Splits...
26 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn25Re: Insurance Question re 57 Seies I
27 BDaviscar@aol.com 18Re: Seats
28 Mark Ritter [70472.1130@32Cheap Disco winch
29 Mark Ritter [70472.1130@25All this Bull#$&*
30 rover@pinn.net (Alexande19List and splits
31 rover@pinn.net (Alexande24Waxoyl and others
32 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em18Re: Land Rover toy digest news
33 Thorsten Klein [tklein@M23Re: The Birmabright Brotherhood
34 jve@phaseone.dk 28109 loose transfer bearing?
35 i.mitchell@ic.ac.uk 35Wanted: LWB for Africa
36 philippe.carchon@rug.ac.11Series wipper blades


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From: BDaviscar@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 09:25:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Waxoyl

In a message dated 96-03-02 19:08:32 EST, you write:

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]

>Where do I find Waxoyl?  I have tried all the regular auto stores
>and met with a resounding *Huh?*

Pick up just about anny British car mag. and look through the ads
as far as I know you can only get it mail order.
I know it is in Pratical classics most of the time.  it is good stuff.

Bruce  Chicago
67 Land Rover   Patches

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 96 10:47:23 EST
From: Lucena <lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Hellas

hi,

are H4 lamps available for the late model disco
on the US side of the pond??

tia,

lito
lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:24:01 -0500 (EST)
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Re: Waxoyl

Check out Automotive Internationl, Inc. in Cincinnati, OH
Address is 11308 Tamarco Drive, Cincinnati, OH  45252. Phone: 1-800-543-7156.

Chris Stevens
Towson, MD
'69 SRIIa 88" SW

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From: BDaviscar@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:38:49 -0500
Subject: Re: won't start (Series stuff)

Hi Michel

I had kind of the same problem on my series 88.
so here goes.

1) check to see if you are gettinng fuel to the carb. I put in a fuel filter
right at the carb.

2) if you are how much. mine had no screen in the down tube and the fuel line
had pluged up to the point I could run it at idle but no faster
or it would die.

3) you may also have a stuck float the carb may need to be rebuilt.
or at least some good carb cleaner used (try spraying it into the fuel inlet
and lettinng it sit.

hope this helps

Bruce    Chicago
67 Land Rover     Patches 

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:02:46 -0500
Subject: Re: PNWTTC Postponed

Not accessible???
maybe for them...I'll bet they don't drive Land-Rovers
conditions there sound perfect to me

Rgds
Steve

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:02:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Waxoyl

>From an earlier post>>>>>>>
Waxoyl is also available from Triple C motor Accessories in Pa.
I think they also have the sprayer
1-717-854-4081
Fax    854-6706
for your info
Rgds,
Steve

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:19:00 -0500
Subject: Waxoyl

Ah, the great godsend, boone to all Brit car owners. I've used it since '85
on various cars. Comes w/hand pump or sep. 2.5 & 5 liter tins. I found it is
applied best w/ air spray equip. and well warmed.If you have such equip. just
buy the large economy size. Easily thinned w/mineral spirits. Can be found at
Moss Motors (1-800-667-7872) or from Triple C in Malpitas, CA. Sorry dont
have that # handy today, will post tomorrow. Triple C is owned by ex-pat
Brit, LR owner, also has nice cat. w/ Land Rover goodies. I orig. found
Waxoyl advert. in Hemmings Motor News.Cheers. AKBlackley

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:52:10 -0500
Subject: (Fwd) Re: tigers in maine(and Labrador)

I recieved this from a fellow Sunbeam Tiger owner who lives in Labrador and 
thought it might be of interest to those who are contemplating the 
Trans-Labrador highway to Goose Bay for a Land Rover excursion.

Ron.....
  I've taken the Volvo over the road several times in the summer.  If you
take you're time (allow 2 days from Baie Comeau to Goose Bay), have a bit 
of ground clearancegood tires and the ability to handle small repars on 
the road it's a wonderful drive.  It's slow and not a good work out for a 
tiger but the Volvo handles it with ease.

   There are many who are intimidated by the road. Simply come prepared 
with some camping gear if you get stuck out overnight.  Fellow travellers 
are more common on the road now and will provide help.  In all my travels 
the worst problem has been a damaged muffler that was rusty anyway.  
Replacing it was less than half of the cost of taking the ferry from 
Goose Bay to Lewisport on the Island of Newfoundland.

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:00:44 -0800 (PST)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: 15"x6 1/2" wheel adapters

On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, George S. Szydlowski wrote:

> has anyone heard about wheel adapters which would bolt to a Series 
> III hub and allow the use of an aftermarket alloy.

Whatever for?

              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network | 1988 Range Rover              * 
              * Davis, California       | 1967 109 Series IIA Safari SW *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 14:19:34 -0500
Subject: TEST - NO CONTENT

This is a test.

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From: emshearer@dominet.in.com.tr (Edward Shearer)
Subject: WAXOL for eigine care
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:31:32 +-200

During a recent trip in a friends new DISCO, he mentioned that he would =
like to put a product called WAXOL on his engine after it's been =
cleaned.  I seem to remember him saying that if was mentioned in the =
literature he received with the vehicle.  He told me that he checked =
with RN but they didn't have it.  Does anyone out there have a source?  =
Please send replies to emshearer@dominet.in.com.tr

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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 96 15:48:43 EST
From: admin@po.cle.ab.com (ccMail SMTPLINK)
Subject: ccMail SMTPLINK Undeliverable Message

User Mark.Maslar is not defined

 Original text follows 
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From: SACME@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:52:59 -0500
Subject: Re: SIII cold starting difficulties

Xavier (?) wrote:
>I recently bought a '73 SIII.  In the morning the temp. would be below
>freezing and the battery would barely turn over the engine.  I replaced the
>battery and now the engine turns over but usualy doesn't fire.  After a few
>minutes of trying the battery can barely turn over the engine.  Is my
starter
>moter drawing too much ampage or is there another problem?
Above quote stolen from Peter H's signal, without permission!  

I agree with Peter Hirsch's comments, but would add that in operating my SIII
for 20 odd years in Maine, when I have had starting problems (hard for
starter to turn engine over) it has been because of dirty or loose
connections, and, after some 20 years, just plain worn out cables.  My
suggestion is that you get a battery terminal brush and thoroughly clean the
battery terminals, then go right through the high amperage wiring - battery
to solenoid to starter and really clean (bright & shiny) all the cable ends,
posts, washers and nuts.  Finally, do the same cleaning job on the ground
cable.  Replace any cable that looks/feels (broken strands, cracked
insulation) less than serviceable.  If after doing all the above, the engine
still cranks hard, I would have the battery load tested.  A battery can show
12 or more volts on a voltmeter and still not be able to deliver the very
high amperage required for starting. 

Good luck!

Doug (Now, where did I put those jumper cables, since I forgot to park on the
hill) Scott
2 ea. Series III and charter member of the (all inclusive) BB.

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From: SACME@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:53:42 -0500
Subject: Series Wiper Blades

I have for years used a generic arm and wiper blade available from the NAPA
auto parts stores.  While not Solihull original for sure, they have the nice
feature of allowing one to rotate the blade carrier on the end of the wiper
arm, thus customizing the sweep of the blade to meet personal preferences.  I
don't have the part no. right at hand, but I bought a set in January for my
son's SIII, so I know they still carry them..

Can't remember where you are.  If no NAPA store where you are, I would be
happy to get details, price, etc. for you.

While we're cleaning windshields, and at the risk of being flamed for using
bandwidth, I finally got fed up with the OEM windshield washer setup on my
SIII.  So, I bought a generic washer pump, bolted it to the wing wall near
the reservoir, then ran clear tubing back and up through a hole drilled in
the wing just forward of the firewall.  The tube goes up the edge of the
windscreen and across the top to the midpoint of the passenger side
windscreen.  The tube rides in nylon cable clamps, which are held by screws
going into the rubber between the top and windscreen (no, they haven't leaked
a drop even in heavy rain).  The "squirters" are "T's" from the local
aquarium shop, the passenger side becomes an "elbow" by capping the unneeded
end with a short piece of tubing with a screw turned into it.  I have used
the system all winter, at speeds up to 65 mph.  Since the squirters point
down and are large openings, as compared to "sprayers", I have had no
problems at all with clogging.  It's also nice to hit the switch and watch
the liquid come up the tube on the left side of the windscreen (I am so easy
to please!)  It is wired into the OEM washer/wiper switch.  Next task is to
extend system to rear window, headlights, taillights and side
mirrors...Whaaat?

Doug (my son says my windshield washer system looks awful) Scott

     

Doug 

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Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:46:16 U
From: "Marc Rengers" <Marc.Rengers@minerva.media-gn.nl>
Subject: Splitting ?? What?? Oh NO!!!!!

Goood morning world !

Coming back from a week-during holiday and it's a WAR !!

Listen and read below:

A LANDROVER is A LANDROVER !!

Disco or Range or Series or Defender, it's a LR !!!!

please don't act like 'jeep-ers'

Marc Rengers

marc.rengers@minerva.media-gn.nl

Groningen, Holland

SIII  88" HardTop Petrol 1977
     110" StaWag  Diesel 1987

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Date: 3 Mar 1996 23:18:45 U
From: "Marc Rengers" <Marc.Rengers@minerva.media-gn.nl>
Subject: RE: 110 questions

>      1.)  The back of the vehicle lists  permanently to port - I'm =
guessing 
>      that the rear springs need replacing - is it a relatively easy job =
?? 
>      do I need any special tools ??

Yes, it's a very easy job and requires only jacks, wheel stands and 
preferably a spring compressor but some wire will work for holding the 
spring in a compressed position.

It is even much easier!

Unscrew the top of the shockabsorber and take it loose of the chassis. Now =
use a jack and jack the Landy up. The axle will stay on the ground so the =
spring will come loose and can be excanged wit another.

Simple, isn't it?

Marc Rengers

marc.rengers@minerva.media-gn.nl

Groningen, Holland

SIII  88" HardTop Petrol 1977
     110" StaWag  Diesel 1987

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Date: 03 Mar 96 17:38:53 EST
From: <RALPH@smuggits.mhs.compuserve.com>
Subject: Re:Seats

The junk yards are a good bet for seats. The other place to look are the 
car classifieds. I am currently in the process of fitting a new set of 
seats to my 101. They cost me 60ukp ($90) and are made by Recaro 
(Decent). The only problem is the plushmobile image they give and that 
you will have to use the rails that come with seats, however any sports 
car seats will be pretty minimalistic so this shouldn't be a problem.

Ralph.

101 FC.

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From: morison@alumni.caltech.edu
Subject: split list & prejudice
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:18 -0800 (PST)

 I prefer to lurk but this is out of hand...

 First, I have seen this question by not a single reply to it.  If one
 is subscribed to LRO Digest, does that mean they get all the lists
 combined in their digest?

 Second, I respect the favoritism of various LR vehicles.  But the
 CHILDLIKE name calling and finger pointing is driving everybody
 away.  It is a shame because LR are great vehicles... ALL OF THEM!

 How can various people post angry messages about other vehicle's drivers
 not waving back when the list can't even maintain respect for all LR
 vehicles and their drivers.  PERHAPS, the other drivers are ex-LRO
 list members who would rather just enjoy their vehicles and not have
 to defend why they drive a Disco or Defender, or the RR? 

 If only this list could be friendly and bring out the joys and frustrations
 of LR's rather than become the  elite snobby police state it has become.

 It is in contradiction to the English publication devoted to LR vehicles:
 Land Rover World (which I learned about via the LRO list).  In that mag
 they have articles about all vehicles from Series to RR and all in between
 including unusual modified "strange-rovers."  They seem to be able to
 recognize that Land Rover means just that: LAND ROVER.

 The list splits are fine. (Although I would prefer just one list.)
 But that doesn't change the terrible nasty attitudes that prevail 
 among the non-plushie people.  They put down the plushies but are 
 far bigger SNOBs than the so-called yuppies they rag on. So tell me,
 why would anyone want to wave to a bunch of mean snobs?

 Janine

 morison@alumni.cco.caltech.edu

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 96 23:33:15 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: RE: split list & prejudice

If this does not sum up the attitudes of the majority I don't what does. The 
minority, you should be ashamed, especially your attitude Russell !    

The minority have spoilt it for everyone, as usual. 

Mark, (sick and tired of the Series Snobs..................From the more civil 
list.)      

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From:  morison@alumni.caltech.edu
Sent:  Sunday, March 03, 1996 6:07 PM
Subject:  split list & prejudice

 I prefer to lurk but this is out of hand...

 First, I have seen this question by not a single reply to it.  If one
 is subscribed to LRO Digest, does that mean they get all the lists
 combined in their digest?

 Second, I respect the favoritism of various LR vehicles.  But the
 CHILDLIKE name calling and finger pointing is driving everybody
 away.  It is a shame because LR are great vehicles... ALL OF THEM!

 How can various people post angry messages about other vehicle's drivers
 not waving back when the list can't even maintain respect for all LR
 vehicles and their drivers.  PERHAPS, the other drivers are ex-LRO
 list members who would rather just enjoy their vehicles and not have
 to defend why they drive a Disco or Defender, or the RR? 

 If only this list could be friendly and bring out the joys and frustrations
 of LR's rather than become the  elite snobby police state it has become.

 It is in contradiction to the English publication devoted to LR vehicles:
 Land Rover World (which I learned about via the LRO list).  In that mag
 they have articles about all vehicles from Series to RR and all in between
 including unusual modified "strange-rovers."  They seem to be able to
 recognize that Land Rover means just that: LAND ROVER.

 The list splits are fine. (Although I would prefer just one list.)
 But that doesn't change the terrible nasty attitudes that prevail 
 among the non-plushie people.  They put down the plushies but are 
 far bigger SNOBs than the so-called yuppies they rag on. So tell me,
 why would anyone want to wave to a bunch of mean snobs?

 Janine

 morison@alumni.cco.caltech.edu

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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 18:53:26
From: IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILLIAM ADAMS)
Subject: Life's a breeze

	I just got back from the Eastern Shore where I was working on my 
"other" diesel, the two-banger Volvo in the boat.It's a great engine but is 
suffering some rust from too much procrastination. also the motor mounts and 
prop shaft need replacing...oh hell, what do you care. BTW, I have a tip for 
all you winter refitters out there: If you have water in the bilge and no 
batteries on board,try a siphon tube out thru a cockpit scupper. Miracle.
	Anyway, lets just say that they don't get to see many Land-Rovers in 
Cambridge,MD., especially a 109 with a huge rack on top. "Whudja just get 
back from a safari?" Ha Ha, such original wit,I was overwhelmed. 
	The real thrust of all this is that the trip home was a real 
pain-in-the-a** due to the 25-30 knot headwind all the way(about 100 miles) 
Going over the bridge at the Choptank and the Bay Bridge was quite an 
adventure! Overall traffic was light and I was aided by a couple of semi rigs 
that I was able to slipstream on a few uphills. 
	I have to say that I wouldn't hesitate to take the truck on long hauls 
even in such adverse conditions. I am in no hurry and even so it only took 15 
minutes more than in a passenger car. With no headwind it would keep up with 
traffic thanx to the OD unit.
	BTW Choptank oysters are the best oysters on the face of the globe bar 
none. I've had those Virginia and Louisiana bivalves and they taste like mud. 
Only the unique combination of sweet and salt water can produce such 
wonderful creatures. I pity you all.

Bill Adams
3Dmentia computer animation
4016 Spruell Drive
Kensington, MD 20895
301-949-9475

'66 Land Rover S2A 109" Station Wagon Diesel  ...all there

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:12:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Splitting ?? What?? Oh NO!!!!!

Too Late they already have
Rgds, Steve

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:24:01 -0800
From: fhyap@ix.netcom.com (Franklin H. Yap )
Subject: Waxoyl

I got mine from Tripe C Motors.  They used to be in California but is 
now in the Mid-West.  They have a mail order flyer and sell some LR 
toys.

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:44:50 +0800
From: Chua Hian Koon <gischk@sgh.gov.sg>

Can you arrange for gzztsj@sgh.gov.sg to be unsubscribed from
majordomo@

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Subject: Land Rover toy digest news
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 96 19:34:44 -0500

I have been trying to set up a system so that those of us interested in 
Land Rover toys can get our jollies but am in need of some help, you s~ee 
uncle Dixon (oh great wise Rover man from the North) was supposed to set 
it up for me. He needs some encourage ment to do so , so let him know 
that you want it and send him some encouragement at  dkenner@emr1.emr.ca

rgds

Robin

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 18:23:34 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Famous Splits...

Lesseeee...  There was that split betwixt the north & south part of the 
US...  Yugoslavia split up, didn't they?  The beatles split up...  And 
now the LRO list...  One more disaster, what's the difference?

When I'm short on time, I delete "plushie" messages without reading them. 
 But I also delete series tech stuff too.  When I have time, I find 
there's a lot I can learn about my rover byreading about electric seat 
switches failing, or where to put cupholders, or what-have-you.  

Mind you, I'm on the realtime list, so I get to delete each message 
individually.  Y'all on the digest just have to scroll past 'em.  What 
d'y'all do when you have to change a tire or add gear oil?  AAA is for 
mazda & toyota owners.  Land Rover owners know how to use a wrench 
(7/16") and the delete key.

P.S., personally, I've got more important things to worry about than how 
many leaky disco or leaky series messages I need to delete.  My dad fell 
again this morning (decided he was gonna do his own laundry), but luckily 
he ended up just sitting down hard on the stairs.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 18:23:37 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Insurance Question re 57 Seies I

When I bought my LR, I needed to have a value for the loan.  I had two 
official appraisals done.  These were based, a lot, upon info I provided. 
 I had letters from Scotty and the editor of the LROA newsletter, stating 
what they thought it was worth.  I had also collected ads of similar 
vehicles for sale in the AW and flyers from RN, AB, etc. I also pointed 
out various value-increasing items, such as the OD, winch, etc.

When I went to AAA for insurance (recently), they said that if the time 
came, they would look at what similar vehicles were being sold for at the 
time to obtain replacement value.

I dunno if its worth getting an actual appraisal, but I know I'm saving 
all the BP flyers and such I get.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: BDaviscar@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:33:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Seats

In a message dated 96-03-03 17:45:14 EST, you write:

>The junk yards are a good bet for seats. The other place to look are the 
>car classifieds. 

Lets not forget the ever popular swap meets I have foud many good seats at VW
show/swap meets (I also have them VW's that is.) I just like cars the
stranger the better sometimes.

Bruce

 Chicago

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Date: 03 Mar 96 21:47:07 EST
From: Mark Ritter <70472.1130@compuserve.com>
Subject: Cheap Disco winch

Subject: Cheap winch for Disco

I have just completed the installation of a winch on my 94 disco, the total
cost
of which was $525 (340 pounds). I used a slightly used superwinch X-9000 and
fabbed the mounting plate from 8 inch structural steel channel. The winch
sits
between the frame rails and the fairlead exits just below the front bumper.
No
modifications to the frame or bumper were required and the crush cans are
still
intact so the airbags should not be affected. The only modiification was to
the
bottom horizontal bar of the factory bull bar. It was relocated slightly
lower
to give the fairlead room. If anyone is interested in the installation call
or
E-mail me and I will fax you some pictures.. The gentleman who helped me with
the engineering and fabrication is considering making them for sale, and
though
the complete cost would be more than what I paid (used winch and sweat
equity)
it will certainly be much less than any other winch currenly offered for the
Disco.

                                                Mark Ritter
                                                Well equipped 94 Disco

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Date: 03 Mar 96 21:47:12 EST
From: Mark Ritter <70472.1130@compuserve.com>
Subject: All this Bull#$&*

I can't believe I'm doing this but I will be unsubscribing from the old list and
moving over to the rro list as i am sick and tired of reading through the verbal
diarrhea about who waves and whose vehicle is plush or not. I joined this list
for technical info and to share experinces about ALL LR products. Instead of
splitting the list around vehicle types how about making a poser list for those
of you who refuse to take your pride and joy off the "metalled" road. Those are
the types that I would like to see gone. In our club SOLAROS the rides are
always a mix of old and new and the talk is never of whose vehicle is better. We
are just all out to have fun. There is an element on this list (you know who you
are) that continually bashes the newer vehicles and I think I have figured out
why- you are jealous. Maybe if you expended the same time and energy at your
livelyhood that you do putting down those who can afford a $35,000 vehicle you
too could drive one. To those series owners that I have talked to over the p[ast
year thank you for your time and I hope we can talk again someday. To the elment
that is driving LR owners off this list GET A LIFE.

								Mark Ritter

If you want to respond to this please send it to my address as I will be off
this list.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:36:22 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: List and splits

Several months ago, someone posted an erudite message about the multiple 
stages in the life cycles of newsgroups.  Though I didn't save that post, I 
think the LRO as attained (sunk) to level 6, or worse.  Time to stop this 
internecine bickering.

        "If you don't want someone to get your goat, don't
        show them were it's tied up."
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:36:39 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Waxoyl and others

Waxoyl may indeed be the best, but there are other substances that may be 
easier/cheaper to obtain locally.  If you live near any sizeable military 
bases or have "surplus" suppliers in your area, diluted "Cosmoline" works 
well.  Another compound is Texaco's "Flocoat" though that is now out of 
produstion.  Originally designed for marine use, it was dumped by the barrel 
into a ship's flooded hold.  When the water was pumped out, the oil would 
coat every surface.

Texaco now makes "Rust Prevenative Compound L" with "L" for liquid at room 
temperature.  It is relatively cheap, available in 5 gal. pails and 35 gal 
drums.  All of these display considerable 'creep' or the ability to 
self-recover scraped off areas.  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:47:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Land Rover toy digest news

> I have been trying to set up a system so that those of us interested in 
> Land Rover toys can get our jollies but am in need of some help, you s~ee 

	Software was up and running, being tested on some other ideas
	last year, but the software fell into disuse and got blown
	away in a searh for more disc space (500mb isn't enough...)
	Will see if I can find some back-ups or will write a new
	listserv programme for the DOS/Waffle set-up on fourfold.

	BTW, When Uncle Dixon gets some cash, such problems will be
	solved when he drops a real operating system on the replacement
	platform...  RIght now that platform is competing with a Turner
	engine.

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:05:59 +0100
From: Thorsten Klein <tklein@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>
Subject: Re: The Birmabright Brotherhood

Hallo Trevor,
If you are the keeper of the world-wide BB list, please add my name to 
the list

	Thorsten Klein
	Mainz, Germany
	Vehicle: Lightweight SIII
	Tel.: 0049/6131/618099
	e-mail: tklein@MZDMZA.ZDV:UNI-MAINZ.DE

	I offer:
	Place for sleeping bags
	Coffee, Tea, Beer
	Tools
	Towing to a independent Land Rover garage (cheap and good)

			Thank you very much
				Thorsten

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From: jve@phaseone.dk
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 09:54:42 
Subject: 109 loose transfer bearing?

Hi all.

Man am I tired of working with the gearbox. When I had my 109 sIII in the 
workshop a few weeks ago getting the brakes fixed, my mechanic pointed out that 
the transfer brake drum can be moved up and down by hand. This indicates that 
the bearing in the transfer box is loose. He told me that I could adjust it by 
removing some of the shims between the xfer box and the speedometer cable 
housing. I checked with my service manual and it looks like it is possible to do 
that.
I also noticed some nasty clunks when I am motor braking in 2nd gear. Could this 
be related to the loose bearing? It only happens in 2nd. I have recently renewed 
all gear wheels on the main axle in the main gearbox and it's smooth as silk 
(well, you know, in LR terms) when accelerating.

SO - what do you think? Can I adjust myself out of this or do I need surgery?

Happy rovering.

Jens Vesterdahl
Copenhagen, Denmark

1972 109 sIII STW

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From: i.mitchell@ic.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 09:57:40 GMT
Subject: Wanted: LWB for Africa

hi again

Well, it's got to the stage now that it has to be done! My Series III
SWB has got to go so that I can buy a LWB for the up and coming Africa
trip.

WANTED:

SIII LWB. Preferably Diesel. Must have a good chassis. Don't care too
much about gearbox or engine as will replace these unless they have
been recently reconditioned.

FOR SALE (or exchange):

SIII SWB. 2.25 Petrol, soft top. W Reg but age is a bit of a mystery.
(Chassis no. begins '903' which denotes pre 1979). Excellent Chassis.
Dual circuit brakes, new shoes all round, new cylinders at rear. New
clutch, new slave cylinder and recon. master cylinder. Hi back seats &
all round sound proofing. Cassette and mounted speakers.

At the moment our plan is to drive to Uganda via Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea,
Ethioia and Kenya. It's a 4000 mile mission (not counting distance to
Egypt) to boldly go.....

Any comments/info on getting a LR to Africa e.g. ferry lines,
 freighters etc, more than welcome.

Cheers, 
Ian 

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:07:03 +0100
From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be (philippe)
Subject: Series wipper blades

to Matt Loxton:
I'm using on my SIII wiper blades of a 2cv Citro=EBn and they fit perfectly.

Philippe Carchon,
SIII, '81 Lightweight
Ghent, Belgium 

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