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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 04:19:17 -0800 From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net> Subject: Re USA Magazine Subscription SPAM OK, fellow LRO's, I know it's usually better to ignore spam, but please listen for a second. The spam referred to came from "ellenfox@cc.mice.uvr.edu". Sounds like a student or employee of some school mis-using school equipment to spam, probably for profit. It would seem simple enough to identify her school and the administrator of the computer system she's using, and send (polite) messages requesting she desist from spamming lest her net access be revoked. But I tried Whois and could not identify the domain "uvr.edu". Can someone better-versed in the workings of the Internet give this a try? John Y. Liu johnliu@earthlink.net KE6GPF 1962 LandRover 109 SIIA 1978 Mercedes 280CE Feathercraft K-1 ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com> Subject: Re: D90 ,..and MPG for D90 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 96 6:22:22 PST Na, I use sync oil every where, set the time to 9 degrees instead of 6, and use the lowest octane gas I can find. I also have some goodyear gsa tires on the beast, as I use it a commuter vehicle. I quick added the figures for the 94 D-90 from 20k to 40K miles and came up with an ave of 18 MPG. I think ths is closer to 17 MPH as I am sure that I have missed recording 3 or 4 tanks. I just picked up my wife's Green D-90 SW, Which she promply named "DON'T" as a reminder to me. But I will try and keep you posted if I can get 15+ mph out of the beast. Russ Burns 91 R-ROver (just got its first flat tire. -12 F must not like the new SW) 94 D-90 95 d-90 SW Dammn jim, this must be a disease..... > In a message dated 96-02-02 13:27:58 EST, you write: > >I Average about 15 MPG at 70 MPH with my 94 D-90 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)] > them fuel ionizer magnets in your fuel line? > :) > John. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:58:59 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Where the rubber meets the road
David Olley wrote: The locals are to be admired for their ability to
>undertake driving...without the benefit of the latest technology from
>Goodrich, Goodyear et al.
Many times, it is the government that's responsible for this, as many
African nations have *horrendous* import duties. I was in the Peace Corps
in Tunisia in '73 and '74 and one of our vehicles was a IIa diesel 88. I
can recall several cross-country trips made on tires that were only tires in
the academic sense...they were round and once made of rubber. Anyway, two
of them had picked up some embeded nails which would work its way through
the tread, puncture the tube, then retreat back into the tread. Drove us
*nuts*. We never could find them despite many *very close* inspections.
Import duties on tires, cars and most other "luxuries" was 100%. Between
the group of us, we couldn't come up with enough cash to buy a new tire,
though we did buy a tube when the old one had too many patches.
We got to be real good and tire/tube changing though. Cheers.
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]Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:36:00 -0800 From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com> Subject: Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers! Oh. I realize that majordomo is a process and not a person. I was thinking more about William Caloccia. Or did I misunderstand the stuff about hanging out in the Haight and drinking gin & tonics at the Claremont, and only the list moved? I'll go back to sleep now. John At 23:37 03.02.96 -0800, Benjamin Allan Smith wrote: >In message <199602031700.JAA29927@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us>you wrote: >> Now that Majordomo of the international list in the Bay Area maybe we Left [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)] > Science Applications International Corporation > Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:44:29 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Andrew Birrell <pdandrew@iafrica.com> Subject: Re: (frozen?) clutch As has been mentioned, clutches are really optional unless idling (specially with some of the Landrovers in Africa!). I had to drive 2500 km from Malawi, through Tanzania, to Nairobi in 1993 without one, in my diesel SIIA. Was a bit harrowing at the coast, where one has a few hundred km of hills, but not impossible. Viva landrovers viva Andrew Cape Town ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 13:28:14 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Grant <rgrant@synapse.net> Subject: Re: Where the rubber meets the road At 09:58 PM 2/2/96 -0500, Alexander P. Grice, wrote >can recall several cross-country trips made on tires that were only tires in >the academic sense...they were round and once made of rubber. It amazes me how ingenious people can be in keeping a vehicle moving. During the Somalia famine and civil war I saw many trucks running on tires that were made of braided grass, vines and general plant junk. The whole mess would be held in place around the rim with lashing after lashing of rope passed through the rim holes and around the "tyre". Sometimes I'd see what passed for a belted radial where the vegetable "inner tube" was held on by the remains of a rubber tire casing. By the way, there is a persistent legend in southern Somalia that a Land Rover carrying most of the country's gold reserves is lost out in the bush. It was known to have left Mogadishu at the height of the fighting between Aideed and Ali Mahdi being driven by a woman. It was apparently last seen in the Bardera region. Legend has it that it's half buried somewhere in the desert between there and Kenya. Rick Grant rgrant@synapse.net 1959, 88" SII Ottawa, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> Subject: SPAM John, there is no Ellen Fox, and there are no other "students" telling us about this "wonderful" service. The spammer uses false names and addresses to give himself credibility. If you want to get to him, complain to his service provider. Sandy Grice has posted them, and maybe will do it again. There is every indication that the parasitic spammer is a subscriber to this list since he has reacted very quickly to changes and serious challenges to his actions. His address is krazykev@kjl.com, but sending stuff to him is probably a waste of effort and band width. I expect he is more than a little twisted, and is getting a lot of satisfaction from our reactions. Walt Davis, CA On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, John Y. Liu wrote: > OK, fellow LRO's, I know it's usually better to ignore spam, but please > listen for a second. > The spam referred to came from "ellenfox@cc.mice.uvr.edu". Sounds like a > student or employee of some school mis-using school equipment to spam, > probably for profit. It would seem simple enough to identify her school and > the administrator of the computer system she's using, and send (polite) > messages requesting she desist from spamming lest her net access be revoked. > But I tried Whois and could not identify the domain "uvr.edu". Can someone > better-versed in the workings of the Internet give this a try? ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 15:14:57 -0600 Subject: Series: Frame Replacement Log: Week 4 Hi all, [ If anyone is coming in late, this is a running comentary of my progress in replacing the frame and bulkhead of my '66 IIa 88. ] Essentially, I was compleatly shut down last week by the artic cold that had much of the midwest in the deep freeze. The temps today hit 0 (thats *zero* F) for the first time in 6 days. I decided that it would cost me too much in fuel to try and bring the uninsulated garage up to working temp, and the frigid wind would just sap the heat from small cracks anyway. In the mean time, I put together a list of parts that I am going to be replacing, as well as did some reading up on upcoming aspects of the project. I put the list of parts that I can use spares or used parts for at the end of the entry, and if anyone has any of these, please let me know. Temps back up into the 20s and 30s this week, so I hope I can finally get the new frame painted and ready for the part transfer. Goal for the coming week is still the same, to get the frame painted and start working on the front axle components and steering - the steering relay will likley be the first big task. The Parts List (looking for used versions of these items): Driver (left) floor panel Bulkhead cowling tunnel cover spring u-bolts (all 8) splash/mud guards steering box cover axle bumpstops mud flaps side step wheel cylinders Thanks, Tim --- tim harincar harincar@mooregs.com '66 IIa 88 SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 4 Feb 96 19:36:41 EST
Subject: Mike Rooth Scores in LRO!
Of course, HE won't tell us thics, but he's got a "Handy Rover Tip" box in the
Letters section of January's LRO!
Congrats, Mike - You've hit the big time! 8*)
Aj"Jealous"r
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]From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com> Subject: Re: Where the rubber meets the road Date: Sun, 4 Feb 96 16:58:00 PST > By the way, there is a persistent legend in southern Somalia that a Land > Rover carrying most of the country's gold reserves is lost out in the bush. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > in the Bardera region. Legend has it that it's half buried somewhere in the > desert between there and Kenya. What type of Rover, it should have a good frame out in the desert... Russ Burns > By the way, there is a persistent legend in southern Somalia that a Land > Rover carrying most of the country's gold reserves is lost out in the bush. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 20:36:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Billings UK show Billing '96 Info (from February '96 LRO magazine, p. 16): July 19-21, 1996 Camping available Thursday/Friday/Daturday nights. Fee for camping is 30# for 3 nights, LRO subscribers and 33# for 3 nights, others. Address to return booking form to is LRO (Billing '96), Anglian House, Chapel Lane, Botesdale, Diss, Norfolk IP22 1DT. Site is Billing Aquadrome, Northampton. According to '95 A to Z Road Atlas Billing Aquadrome is just south of Great Billing and Little Billing, east of the city of Northampton. Northampton is less than two hours north of London east of the M1. Billing Show is run by the former LRO mag. staff, not the current staff. A UK phone number to try is: 01379 890056 Fax: 01379 898244. From US drop leading 0 and dial 011 44 UK number. I understand the camping fills up quickly, and the booking form has been in the hands of LRO subscribers for several weeks now, so timely action is appropriate. Prehaps a phone call or fax would be in order. An alternative to camping is a B&B, usually in the 15#-18#/night. Our technique in Britain has been to look for signs if front of houses, or in a "tourist" area visit the local Tourist Info center. We've never used one of the directories, and my impression is that many that make the directories are more "inns" than homes. David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 21:44:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> Subject: Re: Mike Rooth Scores in LRO! On 4 Feb 1996, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote: > Of course, HE won't tell us thics, but he's got a "Handy Rover Tip" box > in the Letters section of January's LRO! Mike is too busy outfitting the ex-RAF 101 for the Camel Trophy run to worry about articles in LRO... :-) BTW, Spencer sourced the BetaCam yet? Rgds, ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 19:26:25 -0800 From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net> Subject: Frame Painting -- More Questions Well, I knew this would happen. I was under the Rover today priming the frame, and found myself also priming just about everything else in sight -- springs, axles, exhaust pipe, ties rods, etc. Which means I'll have to paint those parts, not much liking the brown primer color. The question is, what color was everything originally? I assume the frame was gloss black; much of the original paint is still present and that's what it is. Were the axles, springs, and tie rods, the same? What about the exhaust -- silver, black, or what? I recognize it is a time-honored tradition for 4x4s to show up with vermillion shocks, screaming yellow axles, neon pink frames, chrome tipped exhaust, and lights in the wheel wells. But I think that does not extend to Land Rovers. Still, perhaps there's some room for individuality here. What's the general sense of the boundaries of good taste? * * * * * * * * * * * * * John Y. Liu Los Angeles, CA johnliu@earthlink.net KE6GPF 1962 LandRover 109 SIIA 1978 Mercedes 280CE 1994 Feathercraft K-1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:07:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Florida Owners Association Forming!!!
Howdy all!
I am proud to announce to any and all interested owners and/or
enthusiasts that a new Florida Owners group is forming and we already
have plans on the drawing board for a rally in mid-march! If you would
like to receive a copy of the newsletter or info on this new group, send
e-mail with your pertinent info (address, phone #'s, type of LR, etc.) to
me at: swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu
or you may call me at the number below.
or snail mail to:
FLROA
c/o Steve Swiger
2424 W. Tampa Bay Blvd
#G-203
Tampa, FL 33607
Thanx! Pass the message along to anyone you might know that would be
interested!
Steve and the FLROA crew
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]Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:15:12 -0500 (EST) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> Subject: Re: Frame Painting -- More Questions On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, John Y. Liu wrote: > I recognize it is a time-honored tradition for 4x4s to show up with > vermillion shocks, screaming yellow axles, neon pink frames, chrome tipped > exhaust, and lights in the wheel wells. But I think that does not extend to > Land Rovers. Still, perhaps there's some room for individuality here. > What's the general sense of the boundaries of good taste? Exhaust is rust, the rest is black underneath... ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: PurnellJE@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:43:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Frame Painting -- More Questions In a message dated 96-02-04 22:50:07 EST, you write: >I recognize it is a time-honored tradition for 4x4s to show up with >vermillion shocks, screaming yellow axles, neon pink frames, chrome tipped >exhaust, and lights in the wheel wells. But I think that does not extend to >Land Rovers. Still, perhaps there's some room for individuality here. >What's the general sense of the boundaries of good taste? You now have the opportunity to set the new standard... the floor is yours, here are your 15 minutes... John. Blah colored undercarriage D90, (actually salt colored) ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 00:12:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: D90SW spotted in Charlottesville, VA
All,
I was driving near the University of Virginia Hospital today and
there, parked underneath an overhead walkway between buildings, was
a dark green D90 station wagon.
Hey, that thing's pretty sharp looking! I guess they'll sell a few,
eh? (heh heh...)
Anyone here on the list fess up to owning it? I want you to give me
a ride in it if so (I'll trade you for a ride in my 1960 Series II
88!)
Duncan, wondering why on earth LRNA doesn't offer more of them for
sale, since it would almost certainly prove as much or more popular
than the ragtop...
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]From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:28:29 -0500 Subject: everything underneath would have been painted black or rusted to start with. in some respects it is not considered good practice to paint certain suspension components (track rods, steering links) in that if there is a metal problem the paint can mask it. (fatigue cracks, etc.) ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960204 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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