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| 1 | "John C. White, III" [jc | 19 | Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers! |
| 2 | n_suesse@cc.colorado.edu | 17 | Looking for 88" |
| 3 | Joseph Broach [calas@utk | 21 | (frozen?) clutch |
| 4 | Duncan Brown [DB@CHO004. | 37 | Re: frozen clutch |
| 5 | 73363.427@compuserve.com | 34 | (frozen?) clutch |
| 6 | Sanna@aol.com | 18 | Re: (frozen?) clutch |
| 7 | TWakeman/Apple@eworld.co | 32 | Re: (frozen?) clutch |
| 8 | William Caloccia [calocc | 45 | [not specified] |
| 9 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 19 | [not specified] |
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:59:32 -0800 From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com> Subject: Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers! Now that Majordomo of the international list in the Bay Area maybe we Left Coasters should introduce him to the Albatross (Berkeley) or Hannigan's (Los Gatos) or the BBC (British Bankers' Club in Menlo Park), whatever is most convenient. Cheers! John At 18:59 02.02.96 -0800, Walter C. Swain wrote: >To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net > * ** * To REPLY send to: lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net * ** * -bc [ truncated by lro-digester (was 26 lines)] > * Davis, California | 1967 109 Series IIA Safari SW * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: n_suesse@cc.colorado.edu Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 13:05:03 MST Subject: Looking for 88" Hello, I am looking for a series IIa or III 88" rover. I love rovers and owned a 68 IIa for a while but it was beyond the point on it's repair curve that it made sense to keep. I am at college in Colorado, but I live in Upstate New York, so If anyone knows of a good LR in either place I would love to hear about it. My email is N_suesse@cc.colorado.edu Thanks alot, Ned N_SUESSE@cc.colorado.edu ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 16:21:59 -0500 From: Joseph Broach <calas@utkux1.utk.edu> Subject: (frozen?) clutch Hello everyone, As I was passing by all the poor souls in our 14" of snow, the rover became increasingly difficult to shift. Finally it became jammed in gear. Pushing the clutch has no effect. After limping home in 3-low, I now need to figure out the problem. It is obvious that the clutch plates are not separating. Is it possible for the plates to freeze together? If this is the case, why did they not stick until I had driven for 10 min. Other Suggestions? I need to get this one running because the '67 has the top off for repairs (brrrr.). Clueless and snowbound :-( Joseph Broach '67 IIa 88 '68 IIa 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 17:06:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: Re: frozen clutch
Joseph,
> As I was passing by all the poor souls in our 14" of snow, the rover
> became increasingly difficult to shift. Finally it became jammed in
> gear. Pushing the clutch has no effect. After limping home in 3-low,
> plates are not separating. Is it possible for the plates to freeze
> together? If this is the case, why did they not stick until I had
> driven for 10 min. Other Suggestions? I need to get this one running
Pretty low-probability guess: you scooped up so much snow driving
through the deep stuff that you've wedged frozen snow ice slag in
and around your clutch slave cylinder?
More likely: the cold weather has made your marginal clutch
hydraulics' seals shrink just enough to stop working. If the fluid
level is dropping, maybe it's leaking past the slave seal (do you
see it dripping out of the boot on the cylinder?) or maybe it's
leaking past the master seal (do you see it all over the pedal
assembly under the hood?) If the fluid level is not dropping, then
your master seal is not maintaining pressure, letting the fluid past
the little seal that blocks the reservoir inlet during pedal
actuation.
One trick I had to use on a TR4 that was similarly suddenly
afflicted in bitter cold weather (but these were the BRAKES!): try
sharply jabbing the pedal to start, to get the seal to spread out a
bit from fluid pressure...and hope it continues holding down the
bore...
Duncan, driving through Charlottesville's 14" of snow, pulling
people out of snowbanks, and loving it!
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From: 73363.427@compuserve.com
Date: 03 Feb 96 17:42:26 EST
Subject: (frozen?) clutch
>> As I was passing by all the poor souls in our 14" of snow, the rover
became increasingly difficult to shift. Finally it became jammed in
gear. Pushing the clutch has no effect. After limping home in 3-low,
I now need to figure out the problem. It is obvious that the clutch
plates are not separating. Is it possible for the plates to freeze
together? If this is the case, why did they not stick until I had
driven for 10 min. Other Suggestions? <<
Sounds like you lost fluid from your clutch system. It is doubtful that the
clutch and flywheel would fuse together while driving. Check the reservoir and
see if it is low. You might be able to drive around a little while by
continuously adding fluid, but you will need to rectify the problem shortly.
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]From: Sanna@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:45:22 -0500 Subject: Re: (frozen?) clutch >>Pushing the clutch has no effect. After limping home in 3-low, I now need to figure out the problem. I don't have a suggestion for the clutch, but not having one shouldn't leave you stranded. You don't need a clutch to shift, only to idle. I broke the throwout bearing on my IIa and drove for a week without a clutch. Only the stop lights were a problem. You just have to learn to speed shift, start the truck in gear, and plan ahead for stops (turn the key off and make sure you've downshifted into 1st, 1st.) - - Rovers may breakdown, but they never leave you stranded - - ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: TWakeman/Apple@eworld.com Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:33:48 -0800 Subject: Re: (frozen?) clutch Joseph coming out of the right side of the bellhousing there is a throwout bearing actuator. A tube links that with the rest of the linkage, I assume that you checked fluid levels and the clutsh fluid is not leaking. There is a steel pin at each end that links the tube to the shafts at each end. If one of the pins has broken your clutch will not work. My 109 had the same symptoms as yours. One of the pins broke. I couldn't tell by visual observation as enough of it remained to look right and partially move the collar. I had to remove the pins to see the problem. If one of these pins broke, replace them both and check the collar for elongation of the holes If it is elongated replace it as well as it takes a fair amount of pedal play to take up a little amount of slop. Connecting the collar is an 'L' shaped bell crank. It sits in a bronse bushing. If the pin hole is elongated in the bell crank it should also be replaced. If the bronse bearing is elongated. replace it also. These are not very expensive parts. I ended up replacing worn collar, both pins, bell crank and bushing. Before the pin broke the clutchreleased when the pedal was less than an inch from the floor. Now it releases half way down. Removing 30 years of elongation made a big difference in how well the clutch worked. Good luck finding your problem and may the solution be cheap. TeriAnn ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers!
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 02:22:46 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
| On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, David Olley at NEW CONCEPT wrote:
| > > If you are reading this then how's 'bout a big ol' round of applause
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
| > deserves a beer.
| > Perhaps someone will get him one ..............
Walt Swain writes:
| This calls for more than a Cyber Beer. I thought of faxing him a some,
| but it would probably leak all over. There's got to be a fix for this;
| afterall, don't we ale-ways get find a way?
Hmmm, a Ciber Off-License, now there's a thought.
Let's be exclusive though, only Single Malts 18 years or older :-)
(Moderate Volume, reasonable mark-up, exclusitivity.)
Does UPS have a delivery service that requires an adult to sign for
the package ?
Guess we'll need a list of 'dry' counties too.
(After all, I work at _the_ electronice commerce place
[stateside: if you heard the girlscout cookies URL on the news last
week, that's running on our kit])
Ciao,
Bill caloccia@OpenMarket.com http://www.senie.com/billc/
Open Market, Inc. http://www.openmarket.com/
245 First Street
Cambridge, Ma. 02142 USA
tel: +1 617 374 6579
fax: +1 617 252 3492
PS anyone leaving the UK for Boston who isn't planning on picking up a
bottle on the way out, be sure to let me know, mature scotches are hard to
get here, and I'll be more than happy to pay the duty-free price :-).
PPS I hacked the Soren's LRO-Plaque to have the current correct address, and
made some transparent GIFs and a new background GIF for the lro-info pages
from http://www.openmarket.com/personal/caloccia/lr/ (fast)
also http://www.senie.com/billc/lr/ (28.8~64Kbps speed)
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]Subject: Re: Three Cheers, Sorry no Beers! Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 23:37:43 -0800 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> In message <199602031700.JAA29927@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us>you wrote: > Now that Majordomo of the international list in the Bay Area maybe we Left > Coasters should introduce him to the Albatross (Berkeley) or Hannigan's (Los > Gatos) or the BBC (British Bankers' Club in Menlo Park), whatever is most > convenient. Actually, MajorDomo was written by a fellow named Brent Chapman who is well known in the firewalls community. Brent lives in the Bay Area. So in many ways the Major started out in the Bay Area. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88 Science Applications International Corporation Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960203 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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