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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 01:01:38 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: DYI... (was: Range Rovers off road )

DYI...  Would that be Do Yourself In?  It would be in my case!  8^)

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 01:02:03 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Opening beer bottles (was: Re: Range Rovers off road)

>           bolt
>           ####
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>   .|       \  R ./
>   |         \__/

A couple problems....

First, this assumes you've installed your bolts pointing downward.  Whereas, 
I've got mine pointing up because it looks better.  Second, it also assumes 
you're willing to risk breaking your windscreen on a particularly stubborn 
cap.

But most importantly, is the safety issues.  If you're driving along, do you 
really want to have to raise your arm/bottle to block your vision?  With a 
sII, both the arm and bottle stay low, out of your view.  Something to 
consider!

btw, 8^)

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 01:02:25 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: In Memoriam

It is with much sadness that I have to announce that my mother, Patricia Mary 
Sinasohn, suffered an inter-cranial hemorrage last Sunday evening and passed 
away Wednesday, January 17, at 2:35pm.  The neurologists at U.C.S.F.'s Moffit 
Hospital feel certain that she felt no pain.  A Memorial service is planned 
for February 4th, and a web page is under construction at 
<http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/patricia/>.

To further complicate matters, my father, Herman Israel Sinasohn, fell at the 
funeral home and broke his thumb and hip.  He underwent surgery for his hip 
Saturday, January 20. 

All of this, added to the ongoing personal challenges we all face, means that 
my availability and functionality may be somewhat compromised in the near 
future.  My professional commitments will take the highest priority, with 
volunteer and recreational obligations taking second place.

What I'm asking, therefore, is this:  Clients and colleagues, please feel 
free to remind me (often) of what you need done.  For those in clubs or other 
organizations, be patient -- I'll get to things, but do remind me.  Friends, 
if we were to meet for lunch or what-have-you, understand why I might cancel, 
or even forget, and if you don't hear from me, it's just because there is so 
much going on.  

We are all handling things well enough;  it is a great help to have a large 
family close by (five kids, all in the bay area).  The hardest part to deal 
with is the suddenness of our loss.  I think we've all been surprised by how 
much we miss my mother now that she's gone.  We are also beginning to 
understand how much she really did for us.  Among other things, she was the 
primary care giver for my father, who requires some looking after.  

We all have many changes ahead, and that will take some getting used to.  
But, with the understanding of our friends, we can carry on.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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From: "Tom Walsh" <tomw@netcom.com>
Date:          Sat, 20 Jan 1996 01:54:56 +0000
Subject:       Re: Condensation in Discovery

> From: Gene Sparks <galleryg@techline.com>
> Have any of you other Disco owners out there had problems with excessive =
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> there a problem? Would like to hear from anyone with feedback on this =
> situation.

Alot have folks have thrown out various "interesting" uses of how to 
use the defroster but...

I would think ( and have had luck ) using recirc, with the air 
conditioner on. This dries up the air fast, and keeps new moister air 
from comming in from the outside. ( The defrost mode turns the AC on 
to do just that! ( it may not control the recirc, but it blows a lot 
more air at the windows so maybe it doesn't need recirc, but its 
kinda loud to keep on all the time! )

If its realy bad ( moisture wise ) 1st use the defrost, then shortly 
after that switch to bi-level ( or mode du jour ) and use recirc with 
AC at a low fan setting ( choose the temp setting you like, even 
heat, as the compressor is probably still humming away ).
It works for me!  If this does not do it you may have a leak! 
( I spilled a fair amount of water in the back of the Disco once 
and it fogged up pretty good each time I started it up until it finally 
dried out ( of course my breathing.... ( hot air :) probably helped )

Tomw
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                       Fluent Networks
             "Intelligent Networking Solutions"
Tom Walsh
tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com
95 LR Disco "The Green Monster"
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From: "Tom Walsh" <tomw@netcom.com>
Date:          Sat, 20 Jan 1996 02:09:48 +0000
Subject:       RE: list of Land Rover dealers in North America

snip!
> Land Rover San Jose
> 4040 Stevens Creek Blvd.
> San Jose, CA 95129
> (408) 246-7600

I have had good experiences in both purchasing and servicing My Disco
here ( it has moved up the street to become a full blown center now, I 
have yet to check it out ( soon enough though ) )

PS: I do 4-wheel as frequently as possible, they know it, they still 
treat me right and fix or tweak stuff even with all my optional stuff.

95 Disco, ARB Winch Bar, Warn 8000i Winch, car top tent
tons-o-lights and expedition stuff.

soon to be installed: OME Springs and shocks, Quaiffe limited slip 
diff, BF goodrich Trac Edge Tires, rock sliders

Tomw

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                       Fluent Networks
             "Intelligent Networking Solutions"
Tom Walsh
tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com
95 LR Disco "The Green Monster"
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Date: 21 Jan 1996 02:13:38 U
From: "Bill Wright" <Bill_Wright@cpqm.saic.com>
Subject: [1]The Land Rover Owner Dai

        Reply to:   [1]The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Warmest regards from Costa Rica.  I currently plan to return to the office on
January 29th.  If you absolutely need to contact me while I'm on vacation,
both Lynda Houston and Millie Steele have my itinerary and phone numbers.
I'll take action on your e-mail as soon as I can.
Bill
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Date: 1/21/96 1:23 AM
From: Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.co

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	  Contents:
  1 Bill_Wright@cpqm.saic.com Sat Jan 20 05:41  111/5557  [1]The Land Rover
Owner D
  2 alanh@merlin.nhmccd.cc.tx.us Sat Jan 20 10:09   24/1236  Re: Swaping RR
1990-1991 
  3 velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk Sat Jan 20 10:24   35/1673  Uneven braking.
Strange.
  4 Wdcockey@aol.com   Sat Jan 20 10:28   22/1140  Re: LR World tel no. (cor
  5 Wdcockey@aol.com   Sat Jan 20 10:39   25/1322  Re: IIA Radiator Removal?
  6 galleryg@techline.com Sat Jan 20 10:43   23/1363  Winch mounting on
Discove
  7 galleryg@techline.com Sat Jan 20 10:43   27/1617  Condensation in
Discovery
  8 jcwhite3@well.com  Sat Jan 20 12:31   44/1959  Re: Condensation in Disco
  9 Land_Rover@msn.com Sat Jan 20 12:52   30/1431  Ironman polybushes
 10 KKelly6788@aol.com Sat Jan 20 14:02   48/2807  Light on speedometer need
 11 lmkessler@srnet.com Sat Jan 20 15:46   28/1347  Synthetic Oils
 12 lmkessler@srnet.com Sat Jan 20 15:46   29/1489  Rover Rentals and full/pa
 13 lmkessler@srnet.com Sat Jan 20 15:46   31/1434  RR tires and approach ang
 14 rosenbau@u.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 16:03   37/1691  Re: Defender tools
 15 dkenner@emr1.emr.ca Sat Jan 20 16:08   38/1585  Re: -40 C
 16 PurnellJE@aol.com  Sat Jan 20 16:09   43/2544  Re: Condensation in Disco
 17 dkenner@emr1.emr.ca Sat Jan 20 16:11   29/1189  Re: IIA Radiator Removal?
 18 trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU Sat Jan 20 16:14   57/2290  Re: nit picking
 19 rosenbau@u.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 16:38   26/1524  Re: Condensation in
Disco
 20 sandee@dx.com.np   Sat Jan 20 18:12  241/12080 Amazing FREE offer I foun
 21 tsalves@slcpl.slcpl.lib.ut.us Sat Jan 20 18:28   36/1778  Re: Condensation
in Disco
 22 trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU Sat Jan 20 18:42   59/2512  diesel primers
 23 lmkessler@srnet.com Sat Jan 20 18:51   34/1471  Capstan Winches
 24 rthomas@postoffice.ptd.net Sat Jan 20 19:42   42/1753  Synthetic oil web
site
 25 jcwhite3@well.com  Sat Jan 20 19:48   65/2660  Re: Disco Defects to Date
 26 smitha@zeus.candw.lc Sat Jan 20 20:23   30/1645  The clog from Central Ame
 27 g@ix.netcom.com    Sat Jan 20 20:23   33/1673  Disco "frozen" in place
 28 landrvr@blacdisc.com Sat Jan 20 21:02   35/1615  Re: Polarity...
 29 landrvr@blacdisc.com Sat Jan 20 21:03   56/2489  Re: IIA Radiator Removal?
 30 landrvr@blacdisc.com Sat Jan 20 21:02   39/1784  Re: tyre issues, choice
 31 landrvr@blacdisc.com Sat Jan 20 21:02   38/1775  Re: 95 Disco - recommenda
 32 landrvr@blacdisc.com Sat Jan 20 21:02   50/1917  Re: Eyebrows & alternativ
 33 newconcept@tcp.co.uk Sat Jan 20 21:04  253/12419 Amazing FREE offer I foun
 34 cboese@co.san-bernardino.ca.us Sat Jan 20 21:32  674/11196 list of Land
Rover dealer
 35 newconcept@tcp.co.uk Sat Jan 20 22:33   28/1434  Previous Mail
 36 Landy88@aol.com    Sat Jan 20 23:07   42/2060  Amsoil
 37 wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us Sat Jan 20 23:11   30/1489  Re: Previous
Mail
 38 Landy88@aol.com    Sun Jan 21 00:02   26/1391  PAINTING GALVANIZING BLAC
 39 dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca Sun Jan 21 00:26   22/1408  Re: nit picking
 40 tsalves@slcpl.slcpl.lib.ut.us Sun Jan 21 01:36   20/1083  hoods

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Date: 20 Jan 1996 02:41:06 U
From: "Bill Wright" <Bill_Wright@cpqm.saic.com>
Subject: [1]The Land Rover Owner Dai

        Reply to:   [1]The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Warmest regards from Costa Rica.  I currently plan to return to the office on
January 29th.  If you absolutely need to contact me while I'm on vacation,
both Lynda Houston and Millie Steele have my itinerary and phone numbers.
I'll take action on your e-mail as soon as I can.
Bill
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Date: 1/20/96 2:38 AM
From: Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.co

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 12:08:51 +0100
From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be (philippe)
Subject: Light-Weight

Hello,
I'm driving a SIII Light-Weight 24 V (ffr). He is a little bit modified 
(made a hard-top /pick up of it).  In Belgium Light-Weights are quite rare 
and you don't find lots of information on it. There are also very few clubs 
(only one LRO-club) so I'm asking if someone knows if there exists a 
manual/book/magazine especially on the Light-Weight version of LR and if it 
exists, how to get it.  
Greetings from a Belgian LR-freak.

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From: jfiresto@AWI-Bremerhaven.DE (John Firestone)
Subject: Request Digest Numbers
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 12:45:53 +0100 (MET)

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 14:28:37 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Uneven braking. Strange.

Soren wrote:
>All
>When i had MOT inspection in December, one of the minor things that failed
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
>rgds
>sv/aurens

Soren - this is probably too stupid to put on paper, but anything will go on 
a computer screen:
Have you tried to adjust the adjuster cam (the little snail-like thing that 
adjusts the distance between your brake shoes and the drum when you are off 
the brake)?  Maybe the shoes on one side are too far away from the drum for 
your cylinder.
I assume you are totally sure that both cylinders on the weaker brake work.
Sorry if these were the first things you tried - probably not even worth two 
oere, let alone two cents...
Regards
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria

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From: JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 08:39:00 -0500
Subject: Panhard Rods

Greetings,

Hmmm.....  What John and Bob said about the Panhard Rod......Me too.

On another subject.  I installed the OME kit on my Defender.  I found the
stiffer OME front coils measured exactly the same length (unsprung and
compressed) as the stock rear Defender coils.  I had placed these coils
on the front of the truck to correct for that ARB-heavy stance.  With
this information stated, Does anyone want to buy a set of (almost new)
rear D-90 coils?  I have two rear sets, and one front set for sale.

Jim Cirbus
Sunbury, Ohio
614.965.9851

'94 D-90 #730  without rear anti-sway bar, but panhard rod intact
'67 SIIA 109" Wagon
'70 SIIA 88"

P.S.  I called ARB when I was installing my Air Locker.  The guy in tech
support said that they were talking to Land Rover about a special edition
"ARB Defender 90" for 1997 when we see them again in the US market.

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 14:46:36 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Costa Rica Mail

A future Central American tourist wrote:
>Hello the list.
>Exactly half of my last mail list consisted of various versions of Costa Rica 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>mail" mode I realized I was locked up and had to re-boot, and spent the rest 
>of the day locked out of my server mailbox. Now that I have finally 
re-accessed my server I have 6 identical messages from Costa Rica.
>I would like to know how one can mess up the list in this way, because I leave 
>for Belize next week, for 2 weeks, and don't want any list legacy that affects 
> other users.

You know - I think I will miss Costa Rica mail.  Any mail makes one feel 
wanted and in touch with the world.  I will be glad to get all your Belize 
messages.  Hope you find out about the correct (Costa Rica Bill) procedure 
before you leave.  Will try to do the same when I go on vacation (first the 
UK, then eastern Austria, then hopefully Venice, then Zimbabwe and Botswana 
next year).
Regards
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria 

P. S.: Not to mention subscription chain letters - except by now I know the 
text by heart!

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From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 14:03:06 PST
Subject: Unsubscribe Landrover-Owner

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HAWTEC                   Tel: +44 (0)1905 723200
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Saint Nicholas Street    Mobile: 0973 316835
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 06:09:13
From: dlague@gnn.com (Dick Lague)
Subject: Looking for Good SIIA109" Wagon

I am looking for a SIIA 109" Wagon in godd to excellent mechanical 
and cosmetic condition.

Could be located anywhere for the right vehicle.

Have a 1991 Range Rover Great Divide for sale.  Very very clean and 
mdchanically perfect.  Has eveything including Safari rack.  
$22,00.00 OBO.  Located in Los Angeles.

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From: EvanD103@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 10:10:31 -0500
Subject: Celebration

After 13 months of working on my '73 Ser III 88's "frame off" restoration I
started her up and drove her through the neiborhood yesterday.  I didn't have
champagne to celebrate with so a bottle of Budweiser (with twist off Series
III cap) had to suffice.  I was amazed that after rebuilding the engine some
six months ago it started on the first revolution when I turned the key.  I
had timed it statically and primed the fuel system with a vacume pump and the
primeing lever on the engine's pump, but I still expected to have to struggle
a while before the engine would start.  It smoked like crazy for a minute -
all the oil I had squirted into the plug holes to prevent rust - but that
settled down soon.  I set the timing with a timing light, adjusted the carb,
and went for a drive.  Apparently the gearbox rebuild worked to, as I had all
gears in the short drive I took.
This morning I'll retorque the head bolts, readjust the valves, and continue
the restoration.  One question perhaps someone on the List can help me with:
 The oil pressure guage does not work.  With new oil pump, bearings, and a
functioning oil pressure warning light I did not loose any sleep over this
last night - but I would like to get it right.  Any hints on trouble shooting
the sender and guage?  Any resistance specs available?
With regard to Tim's questions about galvanized trim and the gray spray on
"cold galvanizing coatings" that everyone seems to agree looks like gray
primer-surfacer:  I have to add that I've had good luck using the stuff to
touch up rusty areas on my trim.  I let the paint dry then buffed it lightly
with a fine brass brush.  It then looked like zinc rather than dull gray
primer.  I wouldn't do it on a large area, but it worked well on the upper
corners of my windscreen.

Sincerely, 
Erik van Dyck
Stone Mountain, Georgia.

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 10:19:26 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetic Oils

At 08:39 AM 1/21/96 -0600, you wrote:
>How often do you change your synthetic. I change my dino oil and filter
ever 2500.  
>Thanks, John Friedman johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu

John

I try to stay around 3000 miles.  On an old 86 Trooper with 173000 miles
which a am trying to sell, I have done it twice a year. On our third auto, a
leased GMC, I still use the Mobil 1 and change at 3000 even though we may
replace it with a new one at the end of the lease.

On my RR, I need to decide about using synthetics in the transmission.  It
takes about $100 of synthetic oil.  But if $20 of oil in the engine is ok
every 3000 miles, then $100 for 30000 miles is a bargain.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport New Hampshire
603-863-7883

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From: "Gerald" <g@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 10:18:40 -0500
Subject: Assembling tow hitch and receiver adapter

I bought a receiver adapter and tow hitch from Rovers North. They
came with no instructions. (As a one time tech writer this grates on
me.) Based on the few pictures I found, their phone advice and
looking at one RR with a similar set-up I put it together. It fits in
the rear receiver of my Disco (1996 NAS). But it will not fit in the
front receiver from RN. 

The problem is the bolts don't let it slide far enough into the
receiver. I think using the spacer that they said is for the
Defender it might fit, but this looks very tight. The other choice
is putting the bolts in the other way - nuts on the "outside" which
offends my sense of taste. Any suggestions? Is this explanation
clear enough? 

--
Gerald
Massachusetts, U.S.
g@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 08:08:49 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Disco "frozen" in place

Gerald's frozen Disco...

>Yesterday we had our January thaw with temperatures close to 15C/60F 
>and lots of rain and lots of snow meleting. By midnight the 
>temperature fell to about -5C/20F. The last time I drove my 96 Disco 
>was while it was raining and warm. It was parked outside all night. 
------snip--------
>was some. The parking brake had been on all night. I finally gave it 
-

Question #1 - Did you go out and play in any flood waters on Friday?? 

You could have very possibly frozen the parking brake shoes to the drum if
it got wet enough. Either that or your tires were frozen to the ground..

Cheers
Mike    

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 08:08:49 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: The clog from Central America

>I would like to know how one can mess up the list in this way, because I leave 
>for Belize next week, for 2 weeks, and don't want any list legacy that affects 
> other users.

Apparently, Costa Rica Bill's E-Mail system has a provision to return any
messages to the sender while he is away from the office - along with a
message of explanation. So, the digest gets bounced back to MajorDomo who
then in his mindless way, sends it right back out on the list... Ad
nauseum... The same sort of thing happens when people don't clear out thier
mailboxes. The mailbox fills and the local host rejects any new message
which the goes back to MajorDomo and we all suffer.

My suggestion is that if you are going to be away from your E_Mail access
for an extended period of time is simply to unsubscribe from the list or
digest as the case may be.

Face it, when you get back, you don't really want to read 1000+ messages
about doing 180's, leaking Range Rovers and oil spewing SerIIa's, now, do you?

Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: D-90 heater fix
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 13:38:20 PST

I decided to see what I could do to improve the efficiency of the
heater in my 94 D-90 with air.
Looking at the design, I noticed that a large amount of heat
was blowing up my wives skirt. Now this seems a little useless to
me as it is either not necessary, or completely hopeless.....

So I first remove the little round air director on the passenger side.
Peering in with a flashlight I noticed that there is a 1.5 in square
tube to direct the heat. Well this was pretty stupid, why waste
all that heat on my wife when we both could be sharing it. So I
removed it.

This worked a little better. I not only got more heat, but the
air conditioning vents now directed the heat to my knees. This
is a great benefit when you get a little older, and drafts bother
your knees when you are wearing your favorite pair of 
jeans. The one with the holes in the knees....

Looking a little deeper in to the heat problem, I noticed
that the orifice in the AC duct where it mated with the
original heat orifice was rather small.
I then proceeded to remove the AC duct and inspect the issue.
The duct is easily removed by removing 4 screws behind each
AC vent.

Looking at the know exposed heat orifice I noticed that the lower
AC unit blocked 20%. Well this is easy to solve....
Out came the hack saw  blade (one of my favorite tools)
and I proceed to enlarge the hole. Instead of the 1.25 by 1.5 in hole
I now have a 1.25.by 4 in hole. I also had to cut a hole in the 
AC duct to match. A quick note here, the Lucas cad/cam abacus
used to design the AC duct mis-aligned the hole by about an inch.
This can be cured by cutting to the end of the plastic AC duct.

A couple of draw backs are the you have to modify the original
interior. If you are planning to remove the AC unit at some time
in the future, you may not want to carve a bigger hole.
I figure I can just cover it with something.
Also the defrost baffle does not cover the entire orifice.

The effects.
The fan is much quieter on high speed.
It heats much better. With both the front, and rear heater on full
 I got the inside temp up to 84 F with out too much trouble.

(30 F outside)

Russ Burns
91 R-Rover
94 D-90

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 17:26:07 -0500
Subject: Re: D-90 heater fix

In a message dated 96-01-21 16:54:35 EST, you write:
>Looking a little deeper in to the heat problem, I noticed
>that the orifice in the AC duct where it mated with the
>original heat orifice was rather small.

Russ, glad to hear you had some success.  But, in the above sentence, do you
mean that your truck came with some air passageway between the original
passenger heat duct (like on driver's side straight above ankles) and the
added AC vents?  I like the idea of cutting the back of the AC shroud by
passengers feet to allow air to flow into the AC vents like you describe, but
mine has no such hole already there to enlarge as you say you did. (if I'm
understanding your technique, anyway.)
thanks
John, WiscoRover

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 17:39:47 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: D90 eyebrows

Dear All, and Tim H.
        As for your recent question about D90 style eyebrows, or flares.
The D90 ones do not fit the Series Rovers without mods to the body panels.
We are fitting some to an SIII today, and it requires cutting. The wheel
openings are a different shape, more square than round.
        UK companies do carry wheel arches for Series Rovers though, that
fit without major cutting. We use them on some of our coil conversions,
when people want really wide tires, and do not want to use the 231601 16
inch rim, or pay to have the D90 style fitted. Places like Craddocks,
Merseyside, etc. all should carry them, and they are black plastic that
might match your trim if you paint it black.
        I like the eye lash idea though!

Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:20:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Rover Rentals and full/part time 4wd

>It was a week with 2 snowy/icy days.  In 2wd all that pathfinder would do is
>spin a tire.  It makes me really appreciate the full time 4wd abilities of
>my RR and all the post series LRs for the on the road conitions we face 
>here.

Well, in order to make this comparison worthwhile, you would either have 
to reach down between the seats and put the Pathfinder in 4WD or remove 
the front driveshaft of your RR. If you compare the the Pathfinder in 2WD 
to a full time 4WD RR, you might as well compare it to any other 2WD 
vehicle. If your gonna bash other 4WD vehicles, at least make the 
comparisons fair...

Rob

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:36:48 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES  <tonyy@BoM.GOV.AU>
Subject: krazy kev

Each morning I spend a happy 30 seconds sending kevin 10 copies of his 
junk mail.  Perhaps if we all did that...

Tony.

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:42:00 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES  <tonyy@BoM.GOV.AU>
Subject: Re: Rover Rentals and full/part time 4wd

On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Rob Bailey wrote:

> Well, in order to make this comparison worthwhile, you would either have 
> to reach down between the seats and put the Pathfinder in 4WD or remove 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> vehicle. If your gonna bash other 4WD vehicles, at least make the 
> comparisons fair...

I don't think he was bashing the Pathfinder as such, I think the point 
was that it's nice not to have to bother tweaking the lever..

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:51:52 -0700
From: "Lee Zeltzer" <lzeltzer@isdnet.com>
Subject: Towing Capacity

Once again my lack of vehicular understanding is disclosing itself.

This weekend I went out looking for a small travel trailer to pull with
my D90. To my surprise I discovered small was too heavy for a D90. With
only a 3500 towing capacity I'm not sure what I can tow, certainly not a
5,100lb trailer.

The question. Why is the towing capacity so low? Is this just a
conservative number to be overlooked or a real capacity?

-- 
Lee Zeltzer, Senior Consultant
Innovative System Design
100 N. Stone Ave. #605
Tucson, AZ 85701
lzeltzer@isdnet.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:18:33 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES  <tonyy@BoM.GOV.AU>
Subject: Re: Towing Capacity

On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Lee Zeltzer wrote:

> my D90. To my surprise I discovered small was too heavy for a D90. With
> only a 3500 towing capacity I'm not sure what I can tow, certainly not a
> 5,100lb trailer.

I think you'll find that the towing capacity is 3500kg,which is 
considerably more than most other small trucks.

Here in Oz we have an ad for a Mitsubishi sedan which is pushing a new, 
more powerful motor and shows this family towing their house behind them. 
In very very small print, flashed up for 0.002 sec, it says "towing 
capacity 800kg"!  Talk about misleading advertising.

Cheers.  Tony.

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:27:57 -0500
Subject: Restoration Update

I haven't written much about the restoration lately, cold weather has a way
of putting a damper on the painting process. (If it's colder than 30 F
outside, I can't get the garage warm enough to paint).  HOWEVER, with
perserverance, I have replaced both toewells, sandblasted the dashpanel,
primed and painted it. Last week, my wife helped me lift the dashpanel back
in place and put new #5 hardened tie bolts (I stayed away from #8 hardened
bolts in case I ever had to cut them off again.)  Today, I put on the left
side support bracket, attached the left toewell (RHD) and connected the
throttle linkage with little problem.  Next up: the wiring harness.  Life is
good.

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD USA 21020
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:00:08 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES  <tonyy@BoM.GOV.AU>
Subject: Re: Restoration Update

> Nate Dunsmore
> Rocking Horse Farm
> Boring, MD USA 21020
> NADdMD@aol.com

I am really curious to know where the name 'Boring' comes from.

Is there not much to do..?  :-)

Cheers. Tony.

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From: TWakeman/Apple@eworld.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 17:16:31 -0800
Subject: Re: transfer lever ratle

I've been reading this thread for a while and find that people go to really
amazing lengths to get around a missing 50 cent part that can be easily
replaced.

I have noticed, over a number of similar threads, that there are a lot of
people on this list who would rather think up and apply original, perhapes
even engenious, hacks to keep from replacing a broken, worn or missing part.
 Individuality and orginal thinking is alive & thriving on this mail list. 

TeriAnnn
TwoDoorMobile prototype

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: leaking swivel ball seal
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:05:57 +1030 (CST)

> BTW, I just noticed this morning that a swivel ball seal is leaking.
> This must have just started in the past couple days! Who brought
> up that topic!!

Dont know but they've got me too, damn.  Two weeks ago it was wheel bearing
seals, before that it was drive shaft vibrations...   Ok guys I dont want
anymore discussion of landrover problems OK.. :-)

cheers
-- 

  Daryl

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Subject: Re: D90 90mph governor
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 96 17:33:00 -0500
From: ttownsend@why.net (ttownsend)

-- [ From: Anthony J. Townsend * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

You guys have this D90 90mph governor thing all wrong.

Just think of it as "High Speed Traction Control." ;-)

Tony
'93 RR 
Dallas, Texas

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:25:08 -0600 (CST)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Antifreeze in Engine

I have an engine that has blown a head gasket and antifreeze is coming 
out of the plug holes.  No problem to fix the gasket, but what I want to 
know is does anyone have a shure fire way to get the antifreeze out of 
the bearing areas.  I know that antifreeze spalls the bearings so I want 
to put something into the engine to soak up the liquid.  WD40 will take 
the water content out I suspect but the glycal is another thing all to 
gether.  Maybe I am being too careful, and I should just change the oil 
after half an hour on the new gasket and let the moisture go out the tail 
pipe.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:43:26 -0500
From: skillman@clark.net (Robert E Skillman)
Subject: Re: Towing Capacity

>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>Once again my lack of vehicular understanding is disclosing itself.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>The question. Why is the towing capacity so low? Is this just a
>conservative number to be overlooked or a real capacity?

     First, I believe its 3500KG, not Lbs, thus 7,700 lbs. BUT
     I have a 87 Range Rover (100"WB) and tried towing my MGTC in an
enclosed trailer.  Total weight was approx. 4500 lbs.  Anyway it scared the
s### out of me.  A short wheelbase vehicle (D90 about 94"?) makes a lousy
tow vehicle because the trailer acts as a pendilum and its up to the car to
counteract this.  Basicaly the longer the vehicle wheelbase and the shorter
the distance from the hitch to the vehicles back axle, the more stable the
situation is.  A load equilizing hitch and anti-sway gear helps, but
there's no substitute for wheelbase.
     Anyway I bought a Chevy Suburban (131"WB) and it's night and day.
With the RR you had to always watch the rearview mirror for trucks as the
air wash would throw me all over the place.  Changes in road surfaces had
to be anticipated and basicaly it made driving a full time job.  With the
Suburban I can punch cruise control and relax a little bit and not worry
about constant corrections.
     I think for a boat, small trailer, or even an open trailer a D90, RR,
or Disco would do fine, but for serious comfortable trailering, forget it.
     As an aside I almost bought a Disco, but the dealer where I had bought
2 VW's and serviced my Range Rover wouldn't budge on price or offer a
decent trade for one of my VW's, so I passed.  The happy ending is that the
Disco couldn't do what I needed it to do so we ended up better off with the
Suburban.
     Final note:  my Range Rover did fine in the 2 feet of snow we just had
while the Suburban (4X4) hung up and needed digging.
                     Bob Skillman

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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:29:40 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: <lro's in NC

<howdy all,
I am currently on a trip in Boone NC and was wondering if anyone knows of 
some LRO's in this area...
thnx
steve

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