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1 Ray Harder [ccray@showme16Re: Headliners
2 Ray Harder [ccray@showme23Re: ROAV sun visors
3 "barnett childress" [bar56re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.
4 ARBLOCKER@aol.com 58Fwd: discovery conversions
5 Danny Phillips [danny@tl31a hole
6 Danny Phillips [danny@tl16cleaning car
7 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE25Re: 25% tarriff
8 "Andrew A. Dallas" [adal33[not specified]
9 jim@kidd.com (jnk) 12Hydraulic winch
10 ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu 11What the?!
11 Ross Leidy [ross@secant.23re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.
12 "John C. White, III" [jc16Re: What the?!
13 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi15Corgi Land Rovers
14 "barnett childress" [bar11re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.
15 "Andrew A. Dallas" [adal29[not specified]
16 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE17Re: Diesel Trivia
17 Chris Haslam [haslam@alc26RR Fuel tank sender
18 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE16owners in Japan
19 "DAVE MCKAIN" [MCKAIN@ce31 Series Manifold Question
20 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em44Re: Series vehicles heaters
21 [Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmai48Series 1 for sale
22 [Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmai14where is he know
23 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em28Re: Series Manifold Question
24 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak81New Dormobile cabinets
25 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak30New Dormobile roof vents
26 Duncan Brown [DB@CHO004.20Re: Discovery conversions
27 Treit Le [Treit_Le@appri38Sunday New York Times 12/31/95
28 Duncan Brown [DB@CHO004.33Re: Series Manifold Question
29 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr34Re: owners in Japan
30 Treit Le [Treit_Le@appri16Where are all the Jeeps hiding?
31 maddeng@Apple.com (gary 22Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
32 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A26Smiths Heater needed for experimentation, and info from UK needed
33 matts@cacilj.caciasl.com15Bosnia LR's
34 ASFCO@aol.com 18New Manual for sale
35 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben13camaraderie etc. etc.
36 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em19Re: Smiths Heater needed for experimentation, and info from UK needed
37 "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove181953 Series 1 For sale
38 allen@dsr.com (David All15Re: D90 MPG on trips with 3000lb trailer
39 rover@pinn.net (Alexande24LRW
40 John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv21Re: Where are all the Jeeps hiding?
41 Simon Barclay [sbar@jna.23Looking for a book!
42 Lorri Paustian [lorri@so34Kodiak Heaters
43 Landy88@aol.com 41Brilliant Design of Series Rovers
44 "Andrew A. Dallas" [adal28[not specified]
45 JEPurnell@aol.com 43Re: Auxiliary Heaters for anything.
46 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em16Re: Looking for a book!
47 Wdcockey@aol.com 11Re: 25% tarriff - MAJOR UPDATE
48 Wdcockey@aol.com 14Re: Auxiliary Heaters for anything.
49 Wdcockey@aol.com 9Re: Looking for a book!
50 Benjamin Allan Smith [be27[not specified]
51 Oscar [omont@mnl.sequel.15Setting preload


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:50:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Headliners

On Sun, 31 Dec 1995 lopezba@atnet.at wrote:
> However, going thru the December issue of LRO magazine I found an ad 
> (on page 169) saying:
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> LaSalle Interior Trim.
> Tel/Fax 01974 831 639
   man, i wanted some of those plastic, molded interior trim
pieces about a year ago (and choice of color).  they said
delivery to the states just wasn't cost feasable.  it seems
to me that some enterprising platic-type could reverse-engineer
some molds and sell 20-30 sets...

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:43:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: ROAV sun visors

On Sat, 30 Dec 1995 lopezba@atnet.at wrote:
> Subject: Re: ROAV sun visors
> David Olley wrote about sun visors:
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> Peter Hirsch
> SI 107in S/W

ivory and limestone -- hmmm.  the dupont limestone paint
i use always seems a tad more yellow than what i was painting.
i just assumed it was because the old paint was -- well old,
and bleached, faded and whatever happens to paint.  but ivory --
that makes me think that maybe my roof and rims were actually
ivory.  i use limestone because that is what some old
atlantic british newsletter said was proper.  they sold the
dupont paint and i managed to get the numbers out of the
dupont computer, buy it locally, save a few pennies.

ray harder

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 8:03:15 EST
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.

John Askes;

Is a hard top on a D90 that much quieter than a soft top?

I have driven a 94 with the Tickford top, a 95 with the Bestop, and a 95 
with the hard top. The Tickford top was the loudest, probably due to the 
fact that it is not as snug fitting as the Best top. Definitely a lot more 
flapping.

I drive 70 miles a day on the highway. My 95 D90 came with the Bestop. I 
have no complaints and don't feel the need for the hard top. It's not that 
noisy and I still have plenty of heat, (winters here in Mass.). The only 
reason I would think of getting the hard top would be if you are worried 
about security.

Another option would be to convert your 94 to the bestop. It's easy to do, 
they just replace the snaps with the rail system. I don't know if it's 
true but I've heard that installation and removal of the hardtop can be a 
pain.

On the subject of 95 (plushmobile?) changes; 

1- The door checks are nice. They keep the doors open even if you get out 
on a sloping hill Etc.

2- The map pockets, to be honest I have never used them, yet.

3- The interior door handle recesses are larger and don't pinch your hand 
everytime you lift the handle.

4- The stereo is set up for a plug in multidisc CD and a subwoofer. I have 
seen them, heard them, and plan to get them. They don't take up any 
interior room and I don't think they affect the off-roadability! I listen 
to music everyday when on the highway, though I never seem to turn on the 
stereo while off road?

5- Plastic checks on the back of the seats prevent the support bar from 
rubbing a hole in the back of the seats.

6- Sliding door top windows and canvas top standard with better top system 
(no snaps to rust or pull loose from the body).

7- Rear door lock standard.

Most of the changes are minor but a few of the changes they made got rid 
of some of the complaints I've heard from some previous owners. Does LR 
listen to there customers?

Good luck
Barnett
95 D90.        

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:00:52 -0500
From: ARBLOCKER@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: discovery conversions

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    discovery conversions
Date:    95-12-23 22:25:59 EST
From:    ARBLOCKER
CC:      ARBLOCKER

After reading some of your information on the internet, I hoped you might be
able to help.  Because I am unsure of who is really capable of helping me
with what I am doing to my Disco maybe you could offer some suggestions of
who to contact.  I live north of Denver in Loveland, Colorado.  

I truly love to do serious off-road adventures.  The Disco is a very capable
four wheel drive, but lacks a few essential items.  Winch, real bumpers, skid
plates, clearance and off-road tires are some of the items I am adding to my
Disco.  Currently I have an ARB Bullbar and Suprewinch on the front with a
custom made rear bumper.  Of course I am concerned about the air bag system,
but I nearly tore off the front bumper and did the rear.  Maybe you know of
some test results regarding this particular conversion I have done.  Ground
clearance was just "ok", so I put an Old Man Emu lift on it and this has been
great!  It is also one hell of alot of work.  I seem to have set up some
vibration in the driveline due to my lift.  Is there someone who has
encountered the same problem and have they been able to fix it someway?  

In January I am going to put skid plates on the front end and also cover the
entire transmission and transfer case areas.  This will also include a custom
made quick dissonnect for the rear sway bar.  

February will be the month for the installation of the ARB air locker system
on the rear only for now.  I want to see how adding the rear locker improves
the off-road proformance and maybe if I feel it necessary put on the front
locker this summer.  Hopefully with the sway bar disconnected I will be able
to keep the wheels on the ground.  Seems like I find myself in situations
with two wheels off of the ground fairly often!

This summer I intend to put new rubber on all four corners.  Probably I'll go
with the BF Goodrich T/A Mudder, 245 R75-16.  This will also help with the
ground clearance problem I mentioned earlier.

Last question for you would be regarding ABS brakes on Disco's.  During
severe four-wheel driving and at critical times they are very unresponsive
and the pedal is like a 4x4 chunk of wood.  Now this is not all of the time
and the dealership says the brakes are fine, and yes they have heard these
complaints from other LR owners.  Seems to me the LR in England would find a
cure for this problem or are you on your own in the back country?  Please let
me know if there is any advice or suggestions out there from anyone.  

Thanks for your help.  arblocker

737 cressa drive
loveland, colo 80537
(970)6696324

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From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk>
Subject: a hole
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 13:18:48 GMT

Dear all, hope you all had a great holiday, i did until i cleaned (yes cleaned)
our discovery.

i have found a hole in the wing, passenger in the uk and oz (drivers side in 
the countries that drive on the wrong side of the road :-)).

i would say that i suspect it was caused by a closed encounter with a van at
some trffic lights, as it is very difficult to see, thin and about 1" long.

i don't think is is corrosion of any kind as the paint around it is not bubbling
etc.

i am hoping it is just where the thin ally has been scrapped over by the van 
against the edge of the splash guard. i realise that you chaps would have to
see it to be sure, but would this sound like a reasonable guess?

my question is can i just clean up the inside of the wing (its on the flat section of the wing just before it folds under).

so can i clean the inside, put some duck tape on the edge of the splash guard,
to leston the rubbing effect, and then apply filler from the inside and smooth
on the outside and paint? or am i going to have this looked at professionally.

this is really bugging me now.

cheers danny.

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From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk>
Subject: cleaning car
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 13:22:51 GMT

dear all, just to waste a bit more band width, i should also tell you about
my bonnet, it only had one shiny bit that was over the turbo, the rest had 
dulled down, I used a polish called MER (made in germany i think) and although
it has been wet since i polihed the car i think two applications have sorted
out the paint or at least started.

i was relictant to use tcut, a friend used it on his escort and cut through to
the undercoat.

cheers danny.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:37:13 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: 25% tarriff

Sandy Grice writes:
snip
> You can thank Uncle Sam and Detroit lobbyists for that price tag.  The 
> Defender as well as all off-shore 2 door sport-utes pay a 25% tarriff.  For 
> that reason, Rover's profit margin is *very* slim on the D-90, the prime 
> reason, I think, why it is being withdrawn.

I was mulling that over just this weekend. Sounds like it's time to 
start our own lobbying. I would think the current congress would be 
*very* receptive to the idea of letting the market decide which two 
door SUV's sell well, without adding a monetary disincentive to the equation.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:49:26 -0500
Subject: re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.
From: "Andrew A. Dallas" <adallas@systemsoft.com>

>John Askes;
>I drive 70 miles a day on the highway. My 95 D90 came with the Bestop. I 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>reason I would think of getting the hard top would be if you are worried 
>about security.

I have a 1995 D90 with the full hard top installed. I'm looking forward 
to the soft top in spring for topless expeditions. I'm impressed with how 
much quieter the D90 is than Jeeps with hard tops. That's one of the 
reasons I adopted my D90. 

You mention that you have plenty of heat. Coming from a very cushy and 
warm volvo, I'm not overly impressed with the heating system of the D90. 
I do have the AC option which, I'm beginning to suspect, significantly 
reduces the volume of air the heating system can move. Do you have the AC 
option? Has any one else out there installed the AC option after-the-fact 
and noticed a significant reduction in heating capacity?
-AD

*************************************************
            Andrew A. Dallas
            Full Spectrum Software
            360 Market St.
            Suite 18
            Brighton, MA 02135
            (617) 782-9829
            adallas@tiac.net
            http://www.tiac.net/users/adallas/
*************************************************

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:47:56 -0400
From: jim@kidd.com (jnk)
Subject: Hydraulic winch

Hello,

Has anyone had experience with the Land Rover hydraulic winch? Did LR
manufacture the winch or was it someone else? Are parts available in the
States or England?

Jim Karantinos

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From: ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: What the?!

I'm not sure why my messages aren't being posted to the digest - so this 
is *another* test...

Frank - 
so much to say - noone to listen...

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From: Ross Leidy <ross@secant.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 09:43:18 0500
Subject: re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.

On 01/02/96 at 08:49 AM, "Andrew A. Dallas" <adallas@systemsoft.com> penned:

 >You mention that you have plenty of heat. Coming from a very cushy
 >and  warm volvo, I'm not overly impressed with the heating system of
 >the D90.  I do have the AC option which, I'm beginning to suspect,
 >significantly  reduces the volume of air the heating system can move.
 >Do you have the AC  option? Has any one else out there installed the
 >AC option after-the-fact  and noticed a significant reduction in
 >heating capacity?
 >-AD

I can speak to this directly.  I got my D90 in October, but the AC wasn't installed until November.  The driver-side floor vent for the heater is unobstructed, but the passenger-side vent is re-routed to make room for the AC.  It's routed back toward the passenger and raised some.  My wife has noticed a BIG reduction in the amount of heat on that side.  Anyone else experienced this?

_____________________________________
Ross Leidy  (ross@secant.com)
Secant Technologies, Inc.
95 NAS D90

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:01:10 -0800
From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: What the?!

Well, it's coming through in realtime anyway.

Cheers!
John

At 09:22 02.01.96 -0800, ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu wrote:
>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>I'm not sure why my messages aren't being posted to the digest - so this 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>Frank - 
>so much to say - noone to listen...

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:06:55 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Corgi Land Rovers

Dear All,
        An email a day or two ago asked about the Land Rover 438 Corgi
model. The model did not come from the facory with different wheels front
and back. The wheels could be turned looking units, or plastic units with
silver plated rims. The dual wheel option is a PO thing. The model could be
a bunch of colors, and even the rescue and wrecker truck models unsed the
basic 438.
        See, even small Rovers are cool.

Mike Smith, ECR

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:06:36 EST
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.

Andrew,

No I don't have AC. When the nice weather is here I run my D90 with the 
bimini top all season.

Barnett.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:17:15 -0500
Subject: re:Soft top vs. hard top, more.
From: "Andrew A. Dallas" <adallas@systemsoft.com>

>I can speak to this directly.  I got my D90 in October, but the AC wasn't 
>installed until November.  The driver-side floor vent for the heater is 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>has noticed a BIG reduction in the amount of heat on that side.  Anyone 
>else experienced this?

That's what I expected. The vent aperatures are very small. I also 
noticed that the storage space above the AC unit gets very warm. I 
suspect that there's either a leak behind the AC unit or that the heating 
ducts are too small to allow the heater blower to move the expected 
volume of air, thus causing back-pressure.  Unfortunately the AC unit 
itself won't blow warm air. Perhaps increasing the number of aperatures 
to the duct itself would improve the system.
-AD

*************************************************
            Andrew A. Dallas
            Full Spectrum Software
            360 Market St.
            Suite 18
            Brighton, MA 02135
            (617) 782-9829
            adallas@tiac.net
            http://www.tiac.net/users/adallas/
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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:08:42 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: Diesel Trivia

GM did more to make diesels unappealing to the masses than any other 
mfg. I learned that back when I worked in the shop at a Chevy dealer. 
Yep, GM produced a fine line of boat anchors.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:15:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: RR Fuel tank sender

I have been silent because I'm not sure that the 88 RR has the same 
arrangement as other years.

I suspect the problem is mechanical, not electrical, i.e. gunk around the 
sender unit.

But I have one comment: on many vehicles, the resistance of the wire from
the sender unit to the gauge is critical (within a few ohms.) I don't know
what this value is for a RR.  On some cars, this wire is not the same metal
and thickness as other wires.

Also, on a Rover SD1, the sender unit gets "lazy".  There is a float on a
pivot.  The pivot wears, so the float arm sticks (or something.)

If someone knows the resistance of this wire, please advise.  I'll add it to
my schematics.

Chris Haslam
Montreal, Canada
88 RR
80 SD1

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:25:13 GMT -0600
Subject: owners in Japan

I seem to recall a LR owner in Japan on this list. If you indeed 
exist, would you please e-mail me?

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "DAVE MCKAIN" <MCKAIN@cemr.wvu.edu>
Date:          Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:16 EDT
Subject:       Series Manifold Question

I have been looking over a 1963 ex-Canadian military Land Rover that 
I purchased a month ago and came upon what I consider to be an 
oddity. On early series vehicles, the exhaust pipe leaves the manifold at a 
90 degree angle to the engine and passed through the wing while 
on later models, the exhaust pipe went straight down from the 
manifold. For some reason, the exhaust on this LR leaves at a 45% 
angle in an upwards direction and passes through the wing like an 
earlier vehicle. The manifold is a three bolt syle and looks like it 
accepts a later type dougnut. Does anyone have any comments on this 
setup? I can replace the manifold with a later type but would like to 
maintain originality on this rover if I can.

If anyone needs parts for Series Land Rovers I am parting out three 
and have a lot of spares. Feel free to contact me.

David McKain
1972 SIII SWB (parting)
1970 SIIA SWB (parting)
1969 SIIA SWB (parting)
1963 SIIA Ex-Canadian Mil SWB
1963 SIIA SWB
mckain@cemr.wvu.edu
(304) 599-0120
Morgantown, WV
USA                     

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:28:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Series vehicles heaters

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996 lopezba@atnet.at wrote:

> Our pampered transatlantic fellow madmen seem to have a solution called 
> the Kodiak heater (Kodiak is an island south of Alaska with a very pleasant 
> subtropical climate, if I remember correctly, and the heater provides the 
> same climate inside a LR). I have no idea what it looks like, whether it 
> is still being made or whether you can get it in the UK. 

	No longer made to my knowledge.  On IIA vehicles as an option.  Very
	common in Canadian Land Rovers, uncommon on US Land Rovers.  Came
	in at least three varients.  Most common that I have seen is the
	large unit that sits on the RHS bulkhead, integral GM heater core
	and blower motor.  There was another where the motor was on the 
	outside and the heater core attached to the centre of the bulkhead
	on the inside.  Long ductwork from the motor to the heater.

	The easiest way to get more heat (besides cleaning out the pipes/
	hoses and heater core) is to take the pathetic Smiths heater that
	mounts outside, get a second, use the pieces and make one that has
	two cores and put back in.  Even simplier is to get the round
	Smiths heater found on Series Ones that mounted in the centre of the
	bulkhead inside the vehicle and put it in as a second heater.  The
	RN Mansfield heater is another option, but the price is so dear
	that you would be far better served making your own heater out of
	scrap tin, a big core and a motor out of some wrecked car.

> International co-operation! That is what this cold world needs!

	Right about now, my books define international co-operation as an
	endeavour where other countries voluntarily accept our quota of 
	cold and snow...  :-)  We'd be happy to share.

> And a kick in the behind for a certain UK supplier of LR parts who is four
> weeks late on delivering my brake cylinders, so I can not take my favourite
> vehicle for a spin thru the 15 cm/6 inches of fresh snow here in Vienna!

	Which one?  :-)

	Rgds,

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Date: 02 Jan 96 11:51:53 EST
From: <Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: Series 1 for sale

     Mark Talbot wrote:
     
     >All,
     >I have come across a nice S1 for sale, early 80 " with small 
     instrument panel.
     [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] 
     >50's Land Rover
     >Any feed back would be helpful from S1 owners in the states
     
     Mark
     I have owned a S1 now for nearly 10 years and I could give you a list 
     a mile long ( with receipts) as to why you should not buy this 
     vehicle. My bank manager and very understanding wife will both vouch 
     for this!
     
     Since owning this vehicle I have met a whole new breed of people, for 
     the most part they are a friendly bunch, one in particular used to 
     drive a shortened 107" to 86" (god knows why)  This once proud vehicle 
     is now sadly rotting in his back garden, while he drools over his 
     NWCLL, which stands for Nice Warm Cosy Little Lorry. Which if spelt 
     backwards is Llcwn, which could be Welsh for a 101"GS, since that's 
     where he spends most of his spare time.( in the 101, in Wales) 
     
     I have heard a rumour that he will one day restore this vehicle and is 
     therefor reluctant to part with any or all it. I only hope his devoted 
     and long suffering wife doesn't get wind of this rumour. 
     
     It is for this reason that I should warn you, to some women any LR can 
     be the bane of their lives, but to others (like my wife) the S1 is a 
     fashion accessory and they get really grumpy when they are not 
     working, which can be quite often. So unless you are prepared to fork 
     out loadsa'dosh and never get to drive it, be warned !!
     
     Happy New Year to all
     
     Especially all S1 owners (drivers) with icicles hanging from the roof
     
     R  1  3        H
     +--|--|   FWD  |
        2  4        L            '55 Series One
     
     Glenn
     

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Date: 02 Jan 96 11:51:57 EST
From: <Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: where is he know

     Robin Craig writes
     
     >Where are you Jimmy?
     
     He has gone to ground,  but can be dug out 
     at Jimmyp@netcom.com  
     Don't mention the 1996 Colour calendar!
     
     Glenn

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:57:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Series Manifold Question

On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, DAVE MCKAIN wrote:

> I have been looking over a 1963 ex-Canadian military Land Rover that 

	A Canadian 1963 ex-military LR.  Canada never used Land Rovers
	though we tested them (besides the three armoured ones currently
	in Bosnia).  The photo under Readers Rovers in the December LROI
	is fascinating.  A Series One modified to look like a Canadian
	Army Land Rover.  Someone must have the nationality wrong...

> manifold. For some reason, the exhaust on this LR leaves at a 45% 
> angle in an upwards direction and passes through the wing like an 
> earlier vehicle. 

	Seen them a number of times,  Even had one before I threw
	it out (not worth repairing, cracked)

> setup? I can replace the manifold with a later type but would like to 
> maintain originality on this rover if I can.

	Finding the replacement would be the problem...

	Rgds,

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:04:14 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: New Dormobile cabinets

I have found a company willing to to reproduce the tall wardrobe cabinet of a 
Dormobile.  This is a tall metal cabinet with a fold up seat and single front 
door.

At this time, I expect to have cabinets made sometime in Feb. I will be lending 
the company my Dormobile wardrobe cabinet to use as a model. To keep costs as 
low as possible, the cabinets will be unpainted (silver Hammerite paint is 
correct), and the door & seat will be unmounted.  It will not include hinges or 
latches (more on these parts at the end of this document).

I have had three versions of the cabinet estimated and will take orders for all 
three versions. Because of the costs involved, I would like full payment before 
the cabinets are constructed.

There are side shelf height differences between the two door and four door 
series Land Rovers.  Please specify if the cabinet is going into a two or four 
door Land Rover.  The cabinets should fit series II, IIA and III land Rovers.  
If you wish to put one of these cabinets in a series I or a Defender, please let
me know and I will request additional measurments.

Here are the versions I have estimated:

1.  reproduction - US$650
This will be sheet steel using the same construction as the original(angle steel
external frame). This includes the welded on external side shelf for a water 
bottle, door (unmounted), swing up seat (unmounted) without the tubuler swing 
down feet or with rectangular (non-original) swing down feet (they can't make 
the correct swing down feet).  To finish this cabinet, you will need to paint it
silver Hammerite, add hinges and latches,  door mirror, wood spacers for the 
water bottles and webbing for mounting the water bottles (see end of this 
message).

2. Economy cabinet - US$550
This is same as above except that there is no external angle steel frame.  The 
dimensions will be identical to the stock Dormobile wardrobe cabinet but someone
familure with Dormobiles will be able to tell that the cabinet is not original.
You can order this one with ot without the external water bottle shelf.

3. Companion cabinet - US$575
This is the one I'm having made for myself since i already have a wardrobe 
cabinet.  This cabinet will have the same dimesions as the original wardrobe 
cabinet.  It will use the economy style construction.  Instead of a partial 
solid front with a single door and a swing up seat, the front of this cabinet 
will have double swinging doors covering the entire front.  It will come with 
three shelves (the original has no shelves).

I plan to mount this companion cabinet in my Project twoDoorMobile oposit the 
stock wardrobe to provide additional storrage.  This might be a good cabinet for
people wanting to fix up a Land Rover for camping.

Spice rack
I have the original rack that fits in the upper left rear corner of the 
Dormobile.  I am thinking of having a mirror image rack made up for the right 
side.  If anyone is interested in a reproduction of this rack, ether right or 
left, contact me and I will get an estimate.

Wardrobe hardware
The hinges and latches that came on the Dormobile cabinets seem to be no longer 
available.  However, i think sutable substitutes can be made from currently 
axailable hinges by filing brass hinges and having them chromed.  If you order a
cabinet and want to try to reproduce the hardware, I will provide pictures and 
dimensions.

If you want to add the mirror that comes on the inside of the cabinet door, i 
will provide dimensions and mounting location.

If you wish to mount the straps and wood spacers for the water bottle mounting, 
I will be happy to provide specs.

TeriAnn        "Celebrating my tenth year on the Usenet/Internet"

twakeman@apple.com

              
                         
                       

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:06:01 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: New Dormobile roof vents

I have found someone to reproduce the roof vent lid from a Dormobile top.

The vent lids will be fiberglass duplicates of a fiberglass roof vent that came 
as a spare on a '64 Dormobile.  This spare roof vent lid is being used to create
the mold for the duplicates.

If anyone would like a new or spare roof vent lid (they are the highest point
on a Dormobile roof and most apt to be damaged from low hanging obsticals)
Please contact me (twakeman@apple.com).  At this time I am only planning one run
and expect to have them built around the end of January.

The vent lids will cost US$100 each plus packaging and shipping costs. (most of 
the cost is labour for hand laying the fiberglass).

The lids will be unpainted and without mounting holes.

If you want to get in on this one time build, please contact me.

TeriAnn        "Celebrating my tenth year on the Usenet/Internet"

twakeman@apple.com

              
                         
                       

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:34:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: Re: Discovery conversions

> Last question for you would be regarding ABS brakes on Disco's.  During
> severe four-wheel driving and at critical times they are very unresponsive
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> cure for this problem or are you on your own in the back country?  Please let
> me know if there is any advice or suggestions out there from anyone.  

    My series II's brakes get like this when severely doused or filled
    with mud.  But they are drum brakes; I though disc brakes
    self-cleaned a lot quicker.  Is there any relationship between what
    kind of muck you've just driven through, and brake performance?

    (I know, sounds like a stupidly obvious question, but just wanted to
    rule it out!)

    Duncan

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From: Treit Le <Treit_Le@apprise.com>
Date:  2 Jan 96 12:03:50 
Subject: Sunday New York Times 12/31/95

This is an excerpt from the Automobile section of the NYT. One article on 
driving schools with one paragraph on Rovers North. One big article on the Land 
Rover Experience factory school in Solihull. Plus 3 pictures of a 4.0SE in 
action, including one going down some steep steps. The "I" in the story is the 
writer, not me.

``This is not so tough,'' I was thinking to myself with the cockiness that 
seizes so many drivers behind the wheels of vehicles unfettered by the bounds 
of pavement. 

   No doubt about it: learning the basics of off-road driving at the Land Rover 
Experience, a training program here in central England operated by the maker of 
four-wheel-drive vehicles, was not for wimps. 

   But I had made it up and down frighteningly steep grades. I had managed to 
maintain control in a sea of mud. My pulse rate had barely quickened as I 
steered along a ramp that tilted my Land Rover Defender sideways at an angle 
normally associated with Evel Knievel. The three feet of water along the 
``jungle track'' did not faze me. 

   Then my instructor, Steve Vaughan, a former Royal Air Force pilot, told me 
to have a go at driving up a rain-slick 10-foot hill and making a sharp left at 
the top to avoid running straight into the woods. The maneuver would require 
giving the vehicle enough gas to make the hill, but not so much that a quick 
turn would be impossible. 

   I shifted into gear, accelerated smoothly up the incline, began inching the 
wheel around - and was met with the ignominious sound of spinning wheels. 

   ``You'll have to go back down,'' Steve said with no hint of disgust in his 
voice. ``It's a shame, though, because you'll probably have to take out that 
little tree down there.'' ...........

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:52:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: Re: Series Manifold Question

Dave,

> oddity. On early series vehicles, the exhaust pipe leaves the manifold at a 
> 90 degree angle to the engine and passed through the wing while 

    That's Series I

> on later models, the exhaust pipe went straight down from the 

    That's Series IIA and beyond.

> manifold. For some reason, the exhaust on this LR leaves at a 45% 
> angle in an upwards direction and passes through the wing like an 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> setup? I can replace the manifold with a later type but would like to 
> maintain originality on this rover if I can.

    That's Series II.  Mine had one like that until the manifold cracked
    and the "up-pipe" (!) corroded away.  I couldn't find replacements
    for either, so I went ahead and converted to the IIA style, which is
    a bolt on replacement (but leaves this mysterious hole in my
    fender!)

    The original Series II parts are out there, but hard to find and I
    drive my car every day so I couldn't afford to be hung up waiting to
    try and find them...

    Duncan

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 10:14:31 +0000
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: owners in Japan

 Tom Rowe <trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu> writes:

>I seem to recall a LR owner in Japan on this list. If you indeed 
>exist, would you please e-mail me?

 Tom,

 You must be thinking of Shunichi Nishi.  He has a WWW page of his
 Club's activities in Japan, unfortunately he unsubscribed from the
 list.  His next to last message was:

        Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 07:23:49 +0900
        From: gnome@st.rim.or.jp (Shunichi Nishi)
        Subject: Renewal my Rover page

        Hi all !!
         I come back after a long time.
        My private Rover Page : "Happy LANDY" renew today.
        URL  :  http://www.st.rim.or.jp/~gnome/rover.html
        Latest up to date 19/10/'95

 Happiest of New Year!!

                          ______
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                     Rumpole of the Bay
 510-988-0900             [________]                        Land-Rover 4x4
 cs@crl.com  ___________.._(o)__.(o)_____...o^^^^  '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88)
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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From: Treit Le <Treit_Le@apprise.com>
Date:  2 Jan 96 12:59:14 
Subject: Where are all the Jeeps hiding?

When skiing this Saturday at Campgaw in Mahwah, NJ, a ridiculously small ski 
"hill" 20 minutes from NY. I parked my RR and immediately another RR pulled in 
next to me. Looking directly forward from my windshield I saw a Disco, then a 
green Defender SW, and a black RR. I had a good spot and didn't have to walk 
more than 300 feet to the slopes, but passed a yellow Defender, a salt crusted 
Series (?, '73 w/ Villanova sticker) and a RR.  One Hummer too. This was in a 
parking lot with about 200 vehicles. Only saw 3 Jeep GC's.I think that the tide 
has turned.

PS, the Hummer was the only one with a winch.

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:52:04 -0800
From: maddeng@Apple.com (gary madden)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:05:35 -0800 (PST)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: LRNA and supply of Rovers

>On Fri, 29 Dec, John Brabyn wrote: 

>Now Now folks -- LRNA, unlike the members of this list, has to make a 
>profit out of Land Rovers. Otherwise their importation would once again 
>cease and we would all be back to where we were pre 1987.

Absolutely right, John.   Think of all those poor devils that own Alfa
Romeos, talk about overpriced unreliable, mediocre performing image
machines.  Running a factory like Land Rover that has total production less
than a single popular Detroit pickup truck does require us devotees to be
willing to spend a few more dollars, but at least we are spared the endless
mindless Television commercials. 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  2 Jan 96 13:48:12 EST
Subject: Smiths Heater needed for experimentation, and info from UK needed

All right, all right all RIIIIGHT!!!

Enough with the whining about heaters.....8*)

My heavens, you'd think it was cold outside or something...

It's time for Al "The mad toolman" Richer to go to work. ANybody in the Boston 
area got a Smiths I can lay my hands on? I've some ideas about fitting the ugly 
little monster with an oversized core, but I need a body to dissect. If 
anybody's got one they pulled out they'd be willing to donate to further the 
cause of warm Rovers, email me.

I do need the whole bit, though....as I think an oversized blower might be part 
of the package.

As part of this, does anybody from the UK have 2 minutes to tell me the 
relevant Japanese imports available in the UK? Seems like these would be a good 
starting ground as a core donor for the heater experiments...

    aj"Hack Artists R Us"r

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:23 -0800
From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: Bosnia LR's

Did anyone else see a Reuters photo of U.S. Army engineers doing their Sava 
River bridge thing with a Chinook (CH-46) overhead?  There are two vehicles 
parked on the opposite bank, one obviously a Range Rover, and the other I 
think a 110?  It was in my Saturday newspaper.

Also of interest in the Saturday San Diego Union Tribune was the feature 
article of the Wheels section, a tribute to the D90, "end of the line for 
'sport coupe of sport utes.'"

-Matt

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:10:24 -0500
Subject: New Manual for sale

I have a new Haynes series ll lla & lll owners workshop manual for sale....$
20.00 e-mail me for the address.

                                                                       Happy,
Healthy New Year to all...

                                                                      Cheers,

                                                                        Steve
Bradke    72 s lll 88

                                                                ASFCO@aol.com

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:13:14 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: camaraderie etc. etc.

OK, I can be persuaded to a truce....

No more jokes about the cell-phone or disco-players, if they don't
insist on naming their cars as "Beluga-black", "Swiss-chocolate white", or
"Dollar-bill green"

Jan
'63 109+ , kinda-blue

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:09:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Smiths Heater needed for experimentation, and info from UK needed

On 2 Jan 1996, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:

> As part of this, does anybody from the UK have 2 minutes to tell me the 
> relevant Japanese imports available in the UK? Seems like these would be a 
> good starting ground as a core donor for the heater experiments...

	Why Japanese?  If anything, Yank tanks like the Buick are renowned
	for their ability to generate tons of heat fast.  It is one thing
	that American manufacturers have managed well.  (Their A/C systems
	are pretty impressive too...)

>     aj"Hack Artists R Us"r

	You're a good candidate to make a flip top front end...

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:18:10 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: 1953 Series 1 For sale

All, 

I reported that there was a S1 for sale here in NH. I have decided to pass it 
over, in favour of a 91 RR. I know, one extreme to another, but what the heck. 

Anyway if there are any interested parties looking for a S1, original 
condition, rebuild brakes, new 16" wheels, new tank, tons of new stuff. Needs 
starter fixed, rebuilt or replaced, and some wiring done. The guy is asking 
$2500. However, an offer of $2000 should be enough. 

E-mail me and I will pass on the details. 

Mark

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:37:13 -0800
From: allen@dsr.com (David Allen)
Subject: Re: D90 MPG on trips with 3000lb trailer

John: I took 2 days worth of instruction from Rovers North last October and
was very pleased with the training. I used a Red D90 that they had, and even
got some training on various types of winching. One real benefit to training
in Vermont is that they have access to some of the gooiest mud perhaps in
the entire country. This made hill climbing especially challenging.
==========================================================================
David Allen                              619.695.8220 x-441  (voice)
Digital Systems Research, Inc.           619.695.2625        (fax)
10085 Scripps Ranch Ct.                  allen@dsr.com       (email)
San Diego, CA  92131-1271                72002,1601          (compuserve)

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:08:05 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: LRW

Got an advance copy of of February's Land Rover World today.  Check out 
pages 44 through 47 for scenes from the Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally. 
(...and if you look real close in the circular photo behind Dennis 
Perzynski, you can see Dave Bobeck.)

It seems that my internet service provider, tired of being part of the 
information superhighway, has turned into a one way street.  For some reason 
that the techies have yet to figure out (or even attempt to figure out, I 
gather), I can upload messages, but can't download anything.  ("The part we 
need wiil be in tomorrow.  We tried rebooting the servers."  Huh?)  
Apparently the entire net is affected.  Who knowns when this jack-leg outfit 
will get is collective ass in gear?  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:14:06 -0800 (PST)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: Where are all the Jeeps hiding?

This reminds me of a recent experience at our local supermarket when I 
pulled in and parked my white RR in between two other white RR's. I 
wished I'd had my camera to get the hat trick!

Cheers

John Brabyn
89RR

On 2 Jan 1996, Treit Le wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> When skiing this Saturday at Campgaw in Mahwah, NJ, a ridiculously small ski 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> has turned.
> PS, the Hummer was the only one with a winch.

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From: Simon Barclay <sbar@jna.com.au>
Subject: Looking for a book!
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 96 11:57:00 EST

Has any one out there heard of (or got a copy of) a book called "The Early 
Years".  I'm told it's by a guy called Michael Hutchins(?) (not the 
musician).  It covers early Series 1's and details the differences/features 
introduced during this time.  Has lots of detailed hand drawn diagrams.

I don't know who published it, if it is still in print, or the IBSN (if it 
has one).  If anyone can help please e-mail me direct.

Thanks in advance.

Simon Barclay
Sydney Australia

E-mail: sbar@jna.com.au

'90 5sp RR
'51 Series 1 (Louie)

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:20:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Lorri Paustian <lorri@sound.net>
Subject: Kodiak Heaters

>From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
>Date:  1 Jan 96 15:42:10 EST
>Subject: Re: Series vehicles heaters

>Re: Kodiak Heaters:

>Near as I know, the original Kodiak has long since passed away. However, the 
>company known as Rovers North in Vermont, U.S.A., makes a similar unit
known as 
>the Mansfield Heater for Series vehicles. 

>In inspecting my catalogue, I see that this goes for the astronomical price of 
>around 650 to 700 dollars American. At trhat price, I'd investigate putting a 
>larger, more efficient core in the standard heater.....ow!

>Not into being burned that bad.... -Alan

There's a guy in our club, Flatland Rover Society, that put in an old
Peterbuilt heater into his Series.  He says it drives him out with the heat.  

I don't think the old Series have enough core area in the standard pancake
heaters to be able to make them any more efficient.

As this is my first attempt at sending an E-mail to LRO Digest (just been
lurking for two or three months), hope I did this right.

Lorri Paustian
'95 Conistan Green Discovery
'95 Arles Blue D90 Hard Top (on order)

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From: Landy88@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:46:10 -0500
Subject: Brilliant Design of Series Rovers

Today, when completing my annual brake work (pronounced master cylinder
replacement), I learned a few more design features in the Series III (and
earlier trucks).  My respect for the Land Rover continues to grow.

First, the master cylinder itself is a masterpiece.  Just leave the brake
lines open and the device will self bleed.  Which brings us to the next
point....the front wings.....

B:  The front wings are marvelous.......Unlike other pseudo-sport-utes, the
wings on the LR are designed to accomodate the owner (pronounced
mechanic...as others have noticed....Rover dealers are not geared for Series
owners).  While working, the wing seconds as a tool holder.  I think it was
also designed with Massachusetts winters in mind.  The snow makes a great
fender pad, no scratching going on there.  Also, it is great for holding
flashlights, handy with master cylinder work....points right at the spot (
and if you are the nervous type, there is no waiting to see how much paint
you took off with the Castrol LMA).  

Three....the design also allow for lots of snow to build up on the bonnet and
fall onto the radiator cowl.  This is a good spot to place any spanners you
need.  As your fingers near numbness, it makes it much easier to find your
tools...the metal is much colder than the plastic of your torch.

I only look forward to my engine work over the next couple of weeks.  Thanks
to all those who helped steer me in the right direction on that tapping.  But
then again, how many new sport-utes come with their own metronome?

Happy Trails!!
******************************************************************************
*******************************************************
Landy88

Charles Cooper                      '72 Series III 88          
PO Box 182                           '68 Series IIA 88  
Lee MA  01238        

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:08:40 -0500
Subject: Humid Days of Winter
From: "Andrew A. Dallas" <adallas@tiac.net>

Working on my second week as a Defender 90 owner, I've read the manual 
cover to cover. I recall now a page which mentiones that it's important 
to clear snow off the ventilation grills on the hood. Tonight is a 
beautifully snowy evening in Boston. The snow is very light and fluffy. I 
was very excited to go on my first 4WD ride in the snow so I quickly 
cleared the snow from my windscreen and hopped in. When I saw that the 
mperature was climbing, I cranked the heater to maximum and enjoyed about 
a minute of warm air. I then heard a sort of "foop" noise which I now 
believe was the fan sucking in the snow from my hood. The cabin got 
pleasantly humid and warm which instantly fogged all of the windows. 

I suppose I deserve a "told you so" from the authors of the manual. 

Moral: Clean your hood vents unless you want to fly by instruments alone.
-AD

*********************************************************
Andrew A. Dallas                           
Independent Software Engineer
Full Spectrum Software
360 Market Street #18, Brighton, MA 02135, (617) 782-9829
http://www.tiac.net/users/adallas/
adallas@tiac.net
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From: JEPurnell@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:11:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Auxiliary Heaters for anything.

All this talk about heaters reminds me of some testing I did  at CARB in Los
Angeles (I was an engineer in the Engineering Testing/Low Emission Vehicle
Testing Sections) on fuel fired heaters when it looked like the ZEV Mandate
(zero emission, aka electric car...) might allow for small fuel fired heaters
on board an electric car to save all the juice for propulsion instead of
heat.  

A company called ESPAR from Germany makes a series of great heaters, powered
by LPG, CNG, gasoline, or diesel and kersosene, that can be used in many
formats.  The one that really intrigued me was their water line model.  The
heater would heat and circulate the water in the cooling system of a car,
truck, or whatever, and not only get the block up to temperature, but using
the existing heater system to heat  the cabin as well, great for retrofits.
 You can also use them to simply heat the cabin with direct hot air  and even
set them on a timer to come on at 6:42am so when you get in at 7:03am to go
to work, you seat is warm and the windows are defrosted (and if you've a
softtop, your side windows are melted).  

The UN Forces use these heaters to keep tanks "at the ready" in cold
climates.  And the Oil Industry uses them in frigid climates when heavy
machinery needs to be used during the week, and not on weekends.  They used
to let the cranes and other stuff simply idle all weekend because they
couldn't get them started in 40 below zero weather.  This way, the heater
comes on Sunday and by MOnday morn the diesels will start right up. The
obvious benefit is fuel cost in areas where it is expenisve to bring fuel.  

This is probably fantasy talk since the cost is high, not for the faint at
heart, but it just seemed like the answer to all this "cold" talk.  I'm
thinkin', if I hooked one of these heaters up in my defender, on a remote
control like the alarm system, and . . . 

(PS--if anyone is really interested, I can give you the USA contact, they are
indeed sold, used, and serviced here already by many school busses, and
trucking companies.)

John 
1994 D90, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:16:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Looking for a book!

On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Simon Barclay wrote:

> Has any one out there heard of (or got a copy of) a book called "The Early 
> Years".  I'm told it's by a guy called Michael Hutchins(?) (not the 
> musician).  It covers early Series 1's and details the differences/features 
> introduced during this time.  Has lots of detailed hand drawn diagrams.

	It was published by the author (don't have my copy in front of me)
	and when I picked up my copy two years ago he had one left in stock.
	I'll see if I can dig up his address for you.  Much emphasis is 
	on the prototypes.

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:33:11 -0500
Subject: Re: 25% tarriff - MAJOR UPDATE

The 25% imported truck tarrif NO LONGER APPLIES to 2 door sport utes as a
result of a decision law suit (by Nissan I believe). I believe this occured a
year or so ago. I recall LRNA quoted in Automotive News as saying this would
help there margin on D90's but they would also use part of it to enhance the
product. The D90 SW pricing may reflect this.

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:56:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Auxiliary Heaters for anything.

In a message dated 96-01-02 21:29:22 EST, you write:

>This is probably fantasy talk since the cost is high, not for the faint at
>heart, but it just seemed like the answer to all this "cold" talk.  I'm
>thinkin', if I hooked one of these heaters up in my defender, on a remote
>control like the alarm system, and . .

If you think a Mansfield heater is expensive, these will make it seem cheap.

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:58:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Looking for a book!

The author is Tony Hutchings, and the last place I saw which claimed to have
a copy was British Northwest. Hutchings provided some updated info while back
in either LRO or the SI club newletter and said he wasn't going to republish.

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Subject: Re: 25% tarriff - MAJOR UPDATE 
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 21:03:02 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

In message <199601030432.XAA25218@butler.uk.stratus.com>you wrote:
  
> The 25% imported truck tarrif NO LONGER APPLIES to 2 door sport utes as a
> result of a decision law suit (by Nissan I believe). 

	Good news!

> I recall LRNA quoted in Automotive News as saying this would
> help there margin on D90's but they would also use part of it to enhance the
> product. The D90 SW pricing may reflect this.

	I seem to recall LRNA officials and/or enthusiast salesmen
stating that since the D90 SW is a 3 door, it was exempt from the tariff.

Ben
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 Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88
 Science Applications International Corporation
 Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake

"...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entry
 from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere.  He'd drive it up the
 Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..."  --Kevin Archie

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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 13:51:33 +0800
From: Oscar <omont@mnl.sequel.net>
Subject: Setting preload

Hi all :

How do you properly set preload on an '89 NAS range without the prescribed
shop tools?

TIA

Oscar
omont@mnl.sequel.net
75247.2423@compuserve.com

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