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1 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.11Rangie fuel tank sender
2 Oscar [omont@mnl.sequel.22WTB fresh Range Rover
3 jpappa01@interserv.com 42Re: 1996 News
4 Chris Haslam [haslam@alc15Self-emptying Washer Reservoir
5 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em17Re: 1996 News
6 lopezba@atnet.at 41Series vehicles heaters
7 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A17Re: Series vehicles heaters
8 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A19Rust on a camshaft - Cleanup opinions?
9 JEPurnell@aol.com 110D90 MPG on trips with 3000lb trailer
10 Simon Barclay [sbar@jna.24RE: Range Rover fuel tank sender
11 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca12[not specified]
12 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca10[not specified]
13 carley@manly.civeng.unsw23Re: wrenches
14 Steve Rochna [75347.452@24Zipp"d LRO Digest
15 carley@manly.civeng.unsw25Re: New and Old Rovers
16 andy@fourfold.ocunix.on.26[not specified]
17 Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-m21Re: Whit


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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:29:09 +1100 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Rangie fuel tank sender

Chris Haslam has wiring diagrams for the '88 RR which
may or may not help (available on the web at
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/RR/Haslam/
also with his email address.)

Lloyd

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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 19:48:32 +0800
From: Oscar <omont@mnl.sequel.net>
Subject: WTB fresh Range Rover

G :

Try http://www.Classifieds2000.com/.  Appears to be CA based.  Saw a couple
of Discos and Rangies there last month.

Hell, don't know why I bothered looking.....am 15,000(?) miles away.

Have a great '96 all!!

Oscar

>>On Sun, 31 Dec 1995 Granville B. Pool wrote :

>>I wish I could say that I'm personally looking to buy a near-new Range
Rover....
omont@mnl.sequel.net
75247.2423@compuserve.com

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:51:45 -0800
Subject: Re: 	1996 News

Just scanned the latest LRO Magazine and saw:

a- The last of the Classic Rangeys. Only 25 (talk about limited edition) of 
them total and none for NA. All chromed up and with Oxford Blue paint and 
special badging. I guess its special because UK price is 40000 quid!!! Does 
this at least inlcude VAT?? Whoever buys them should most certainly plan on 
keeping them.... forever! If you could keep one pristine (i.e. - use a 
not-so-rare one to play in) then over time it will be a piece desired by many 
collectors. But wow - 40K puts you right at NAS 4.6HSE territory. 

b- The *new* Discovery XS. Its easy to see the choice of this designator. *XS* 
truly means excess - as in wretched? I would argue that the body side 
treatment borders on Jeep Grand Cherokee slabs and is quite hideous. The wider 
wheelarch molding is the same as we were installing on vehicles last year and 
LRNA withdrew same due to poor glue performance. I can assume that its 
availability again means that the glue issue has been resolved? The new *soft* 
Euro brush guard is shown on it. Similar in material and look to the poly unit 
on the newbody Range Rover, this I like. An alternative. It would be great if 
the NAS network had eventual access to both. The price for this XS with 
airbags and automatic puts it over 41,000 bucks! Perhaps US/CDN owners won't 
mind so much investing 38500 for an SE7 which in addition to the XS, gives you 
the 4.0 engine! The XS is fitted with last year's NAS 3.9 V8. 

c- HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone in the BSROA, everyone on the list, and LROs 
everywhere!

cheerz
Jim - just warming up for 1996!

`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:38:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: Self-emptying Washer Reservoir

Thanks for the help.  I attached a piece of 3/8" hose, plugged at the 
end, to the "power" washer, and disconnected the pump electrically.  This 
should get me through to spring.  (If we haven't entered another ice age!)

...chris haslam
Montreal, Canada

P.S. Can anyone tell me how I send email to a compuserve address? Pine
expects a comma to separate addresses, and CompuServe expects a comma, not a
period.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:23:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: 1996 News

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996 jpappa01@interserv.com wrote:

> Just scanned the latest LRO Magazine and saw:

	Read Jim Allen's latest foray into journalism?  Seems there is a nasty
	rumour afoot that the Defender may no continue to be offered on our
	shores!  Such shocking news, LRO must have gotten the article in the
	wrong issue, saving it to 1996, rather than publishing in Jan 1995.

	Happy New Year to all...

	Rgds,

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:29:38 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Series vehicles heaters

Peter Barton wrote:

>Subject: Re:Give me heat!!
>David at:  newconcept@tcp.co.uk (David Olley at NEW CONCEPT) wrote:

>> Can any of you hardy types running Series
>>Landies in cold climates tell me if you have heaters that actually raise the
>>temperature in the cab.

>Sorry David, can't help  I haven't even got one,  some blighter took mine
>out before I got my SIIa, so I'm still wondering what its like to be snugg
>and warm.
   The nearest I get to heating is the trickle of warm air that comes
>through the two holes in the bulkhead where the heater use to be.
>   So, if anybody out there can think of some form of cheap heat exchange
>unit (e.g. car, domestic, or even copper pipe.)  That I can stick inside
>the cab just  as a tempory measure, then please let me know.

>  Cheers, and a happy new year
>                                        Peter Barton (Wimborne Dorset)

Our pampered transatlantic fellow madmen seem to have a solution called 
the Kodiak heater (Kodiak is an island south of Alaska with a very pleasant 
subtropical climate, if I remember correctly, and the heater provides the 
same climate inside a LR). I have no idea what it looks like, whether it 
is still being made or whether you can get it in the UK. However, I will post
this to the lro list and see what we come up with.

International co-operation! That is what this cold world needs!
And a kick in the behind for a certain UK supplier of LR parts who is four
weeks late on delivering my brake cylinders, so I can not take my favourite
vehicle for a spin thru the 15 cm/6 inches of fresh snow here in Vienna!

Hope you have a good year
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  1 Jan 96 15:42:10 EST
Subject: Re: Series vehicles heaters

Re: Kodiak Heaters:

Near as I know, the original Kodiak has long since passed away. However, the 
company known as Rovers North in Vermont, U.S.A., makes a similar unit known as 
the Mansfield Heater for Series vehicles. 

In inspecting my catalogue, I see that this goes for the astronomical price of 
around 650 to 700 dollars American. At trhat price, I'd investigate putting a 
larger, more efficient core in the standard heater.....ow!

Not into being burned that bad.... -Alan

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  1 Jan 96 15:47:20 EST
Subject: Rust on a camshaft - Cleanup opinions?

In the process of my scavenging, I ran myself up a good 2.25L engine that had 
some difficulties and was put aside with the valve cover off. In the 10 years 
or so that it sat, crud migrated down the tappet bores and caused the rollers 
and guides on the front 3 tappets to rust, as well as the lobes on the cam.

I can replace the rollers and slides with good units I have, but I'd rather not 
shoot the cam... any opinions on cleaning it up and how? I was honestly 
thinking of glass-beading the beast to knock off the rust and letting it go at 
that....or a bit of crocus cloth applied through the side plates might do also.

Obviously, the less disassembly I have to do the happier I am.....

   aj"Color me too cheap to replace it"R

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From: JEPurnell@aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:38:27 -0500
Subject: D90 MPG on trips with 3000lb trailer

Hello all, 
I apologize up front if this note takes up a lot of  bandwidth, but I thought
some fellow D90 owners would be interested.  In the last 2 months I've done a
lot of D90-ing, though most of it has been in "regular car" mode.  I moved
from Los Angeles to Madison, Wisconsin.  Then I went out to Vermont and moved
my sister back to Milwaukee, Wisconsin.  That's a lotsa miles.  

Being an engineer, of course I wanted to record all the pertinent data, so
instead of looking at the sights along the way, I kept track of gas mileage,
ha ha.  I hope the columns below have kept some kind of order so you can
still read them, they are from an Excel spreadsheet.  

All the road driving, except one leg, was done with a 5X8 Uhaul type box
trailer behind me loaded with around 2000lbs of stuff, and the trailer
weighed about 750, so about 3000lbs total.  The trip out to Vermont the
trailer was empty.  But, the trip back from Vermont was during the
mid-November blizzard that hit the Northeast and Pennsylvania area.  Any  MPG
drop might be accounted for  more by conditions, than the loaded trailer:
lots of idling, creeping along, and four wheeling through thick snow.  Thank
god for Land Rover and MudTerrain tyres.  There were many 18 wheelers
jackknifed and off the road into the ditch, but the trailer and I  were fine.
Compared to the unladen  highway  road miles in Los Angeles, I  see about a 2
MPG (from 16 to 14)  difference from having a loaded trailer on the back end
of the Defender.  Another difference I've noticed in MPG comes from trips at
60 mph rather than at 75 mph, this can boost mileage about 2 mpg.  I guess
it's the cost of pushing a barn door down the expressway...

While out in Vermont, I drove up to Rovers North.  They really treated me
great, showed me all around, I spent about 3 hours there.  I ended up buying
a front wraparound grill guard, a take-off from another defender, and they
even put it on for me at no charge.  I expected some nominal charge even if
it was rather straightforward wrenching.  (I brought the tools in case I had
to do it...)

It really started snowing just as I left RN, and I got a great couple of
pictures near their wood sign at their driveway, snow falling, etc.  It
really is beautiful country up there.  I sure hope to try their off road
school, they did a great advertising job on me.  Anyone out there take their
course?   

So heck, I must have upwards of a whopping  13,000 miles on this 1994, and
other than a MIL light coming on for an out-of-range idle control valve, it
has been a perfect joy.  I drive it everyday, rain or snow, sun or cold.  The
synthetic oil I put in really made cold starting a lot better.  I haven't
dropped  any oil since putting it in, and that's been over 2000 miles
now...so much for Land Rovers being oil leakers...(I know, I know, I am both
a neophyte and a fate tempter...)  

All I have to do now is find a job so I can keep the darn thing...

Thanks.
John
1994 D90, no rust yet in Wisconsin, but when do I get to take the top off
again??!!?? bbbrrrrrrrrr

D90 Los Angeles to Madison				
trip	gallons	$/gal	location                  mpg
220	13.9	1.65	Baker, Ca              15.8
159	11.4	1.59	NV	              13.9
128	11.6	1.42	UT	              11.0
122	9.3	1.36	UT	              13.1
127	9.2	1.38	UT	              13.8
109	8.3	1.38	GJ, CO	              13.1
150	10.6	1.59	Vail, CO	              14.2
154	9.8	1.25	CO	              15.7
164	12.2	1.25	NB	              13.4
159	12.2	1.34	NB	              13.0
172	13.4	1.38	NB	              12.8
177	13.4	1.29	Des Moines, IA      13.2
137	10.6	1.19	Iowa City, IA          12.9
129	8.1	1.27	Mineral Pt, WI         15.9
				
miles	gallons	avg $/gal                   total trip avg MPG
2107	154.0	1.38		             13.7
				
D90 Madison/Vermont/Madison				
trip	gallons	$/gal	location                   mpg
****empty trailer...
147	11.6	1.279	Milw, WI                  12.6
106	9.0	1.229	Indiana Trnpk	11.8
145	9.6	1.209	Portage, IN	15.1
133	8.7	1.509	Little Falls, NY	15.3
187	12.0	1.509	Clifton Spr, NY	15.6
138	8.6	1.26	Erie, PA                   16.0
71	4.9	1.31	Amherst, OH	14.5
115	9.4	1.15	Stoney R, OH	12.2
63.4	4.5	1.41	Guilderland, NY	14.0
133	9.6	1.42	Manchester, VT	13.8
140	8.2	1.31	Burlington, VT	17.2
		empty trailer avg MPG =                      14.4 		
				
***Loaded Trailer...
174	11.8	1.289	Montgomery, NY	14.7
132	8.5	1.349	Bennington, VT	15.5
109	8.0	1.36	Wilkes Barre, PA	13.7
112	10.6	1.399	Harford, PA	10.6
166	12.9	1.35	Mercer, PA	12.9
159	13.2	1.229	Clyde, OH	12.0
92	7.9	1.199	Montpelier, OH	11.6
121	9.7	1.22	Rolling Pr, IN	12.5
175	13.2	1.29	Shorewood, WI	13.2
		loaded trailer avg MPG=                        13.0 		
miles	gallons	avg $/gal                        total trip avg MPG
2471	180.3	1.32                                         13.8

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From: Simon Barclay <sbar@jna.com.au>
Subject: RE: Range Rover fuel tank sender
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 10:52:00 EST

Hi Andy

I can't offer you an answer to your question re the resistance of the sender 
unit, but I have had a fuel supply problem in a previous RR (which was an 
'85 carb model).  There was an amount of gung built up on the fuel pick 
up/filter in the tank.

Access to this was gained by removing sender unit.  I didn't need any 
special tools or to remove the tank.  Just make sure the fuel level is well 
below the sender unit mounting and tap lightly with a screw driver to unlock 
the three tabs and pull it off.  Installation is just the reverse.

Hope this helps...

Simon Barclay
Sydney Australia
'90 5sp RR
'51 Series 1 (Louie)

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Subject: Address needed for Brad Blevins
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 95 17:55:23 -0500

Can someone email me Brad Blevins (ex editor of AW)  email address please

TU

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Subject: where is Jimmy Patrick?
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 95 17:56:22 -0500

Where are you Jimmy?

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:37:27 EST
From: carley@manly.civeng.unsw.EDU.AU (James Carley - WRL Staff)
Subject: Re:  wrenches

METRINCH in Australia are made in USA.
I bought a set of spanners recently (socket sets are also made/sold) at
an end of year sale for a pretty good price, and have since used them in
the replacement of clutch master and slave cylinders on my 110.

My conclusions are that they are a useful addition to a toolbox but can't
completely replace other spanners. They are also useful for any rounded
off nuts 'cause they act on the flats of the nuts. My 110 has the usual
plethora of imperial and metric nuts, so the METRINCH set has been good
for nuts which have easy access, but for some nuts which have bad access
(the ones where you get 1/12 turn at a time by flipping the open ender)
the inherent free play in the METRINCH spanners makes them inferior to
my SIDCHROME AF and metric spanners. In the clutch cyl job there were
nuts which the METRINCH couldn't do.

James Carley
Sydney, Australia
85 110, now carrying 3 spanner sets, plus SIDCHROME socket set and more.

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Date: 01 Jan 96 21:00:16 EST
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@compuserve.com>
Subject: Zipp"d LRO Digest

G'day all.  I'm mostly a lurker but also a hardcore Land Rover addict who
faithfully downloads all of the daily lisings for reading whenever I get the
time.  My fingernails are not something my wife takes pride in showing off to
her friends (honey I rebuilt the fuel pump after you went to bed last night.)

Anyway I also happen to be a pilot in the U. S. Navy and as such will be leaving
on deployment at the end of January.  This means that I will not only be
deprived of driving my Rover until August but I cannot even live vicariously
through you all since I can't get my E-mail.

Is there anyone out there willing to Zip and mail me the Daily Digest once or
twice per month for the fee of maybe a box of disks and a case of lets say Sam
Adams or Guiness?

Thanks
Steve Rochna

soon to be "haze grey under way"
(nobody ever said you had to be smart to fly)

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 14:08:49 EST
From: carley@manly.civeng.unsw.EDU.AU (James Carley - WRL Staff)
Subject: Re: New and Old Rovers

In Australia (and UK from what I gather) parts backup for Rovers of all
ages is excellent. Some prices are a bit ridiculous but most imported cars
have this problem.

I live and work ~10 km from nearest LR dealer (New Rowley Motors, Sydney,
Free Plug). Within 2 to 24 hrs (depending on availability) parts get
delivered to my door (the delivery is free).

My only complaint is that when I bought my 2nd hand 110 I asked them about
a parts manual and was told that they weren't avail. After reading UK
magazines I faxed an advertiser in UK and got one. It makes obtaining parts
so much easier. The parts manual has a LR part number itself but I've never
tried out the dealer response to this part number.

For Sydney and Aust readers, I've also found Range Parts good, generally
cheaper than dealer, but delivery is usually 24 - 48 hrs and ~$10 through
the postal service (or a 2 hour round drive for me).

James Carley
'85 110 3.9D

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Subject: new member to the net
From: andy@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Andy Graham)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 95 21:02:45 -0500

Hello fellow L-R owners!

My name is Andy Graham and I have been associated with LandRovers since 
the seventies when I purchased a '71 S2a 88".I now have a '59 S2 
109"truck cab. I am also a Land Rover toy and memorabilia collecting 
fanatic, along with my buddy Robin Craig, who is currently my email 
tutuor!!

oops I cant spell!

I welcome any chat about toys and how I can improve my sense of direction 
as I was the runner up to Dixon for the Lug Nut award this year here in 
OVLR.

So long for the minute,

Andy

--
Andy Graham, andy@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: Whit 
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:01:28 +0100 (MET)

John wrote:

> In German these are called "Englaender" (Englishmen).  Now I know why.

more common over here is "Franzose" (Frenchman). But I can't tell you
any reason why.

Franz
-- 
Franz Parzefall			 tbr1102@hpmail.lrz-muenchen.de
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]           exmil. 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__.._
                                  

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