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Subject: Re: Malawi via Tete or Zambia
From: paul@frcs.alt.za (Paul Nash)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:08:03 +1100

> and would like to hear from folk who might have travelled up that 
> way. There are two ways of getting from Zimbabwe, either going 
> through Zambia or through the Tete corridor in Mozambique. Different 
> people have different nightmares to tell about each! Is there anyone 

Sheesh!  I've also heard of lots of friends of friends or friends who
where shot in the head, held up, chopped to bits with machetes, and so
on (and somehow managed to get back and tell about it!).

We went to Malawi & Zambia about 18 months ago, up via Tete, back via
Livingston.  Tete was fine, but the Mocambiquan border people are quite
surly (maybe it's just a language thing) and although we had Zimbabwean
papers (which should have covered everything) we _still_ had to buy 
insurance &c.  It was about R100/vehicle (or US$60/vehicle, so pay in
Rands :-)), but no big deal.  We were stopped by two road blocks, one
checking seat belts, the other looking for warning triangles & fire
extinguishers.  No requests for bribes, threats, anything else.  Just
immense poverty & devestation from the war (and the SA/Eskom-sponsored
post-independence guerrilla offensive).  The road itself is fine, and
I could travel as fast as the diesel would let me go, except for the 
last 10km or so, which was still under construction.

Zambia was quite different.  The border people were friendly & helpful,
needed about US$5 for insurance, and the country was absolutely
beautiful.  Beer was cheap, but take your own empties -- small towns
won't sell beer unless you give them empties.  Fuel prices vary from
pump to pump.  The highway from Chipata to Lusaka is variable, and
you can cruise at 120km/hr or more if you don't mind sudden potholes.
The only road-blocks that we saw were veterinary controls.  I broke
both front springs on the road from South Luangwa to Petauke, but
got some leaves (and lots of labour) in Petauke (about 100 people
or so).

Crossing from Livingston to Vic Falls, we had more shit on the Zim
side (not that it was anything to write home about) than we had during
the rest of the trip.

Go up one way, and come back the other.  It makes it more interesting.
You won't regret it -- the great fear of the rest of Africa is one of
the many negative effects of years of Apartheid rule.  

Drop me a line if you want more info.

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Date: 8 Dec 1995 14:18:55 -0500
From: "Sean McInerney" <smcinerney@mail.nrgn.com>
Subject: Obscure parts

 Obscure parts
Those of you with SIIa Genuine Parts Catalogues-

1.)  Can anyone tell me the part numbers for the Solex carburetor correct for
a 1963 Land Rover?....there may be numbers existent for electrically wired
and heated as well as unheated versions.
2.)  What is the part number for the ignition waterproofing kit (rubber boots
for coil, distributor, and plugs)?
3.)  What is the part number for the petrol fuel pump with glass sediment
bowl?  Was this always the same part # for SII, early SIIa, late SIIa, and
SIII?
4.)  The waterpump for the SIIa petrol is now absurdly priced in NA.....what
is its part number?

 Except for the fuel pump, these parts are out-of-production and, therefore,
rather obscure and $$$ (#163##163##163#).  Except for the waterproofing kit, I am
attempting to stay 'vintage-correct', so please keep this in mind with your
replies.  A friend of mine is going home to England for the holidays and has
offered to bring back a few parts as long as they are not too heavy.  Where
might he get his hands on these parts in the UK (over the counter or mail)? 
I would like all these parts to be genuine....but I am also trying to save
tons o' $$$ (#163##163##163#).

Thanks in advance,
  Sean C. McInerney
  1963 SIIa 88" petrol hardtop

P.S.:  Where's the digest???????????????????????????????

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:03:53 +0100
From: bava001@IT.net (Claudio Bavassano)
Subject: Disco driver seat

>To: LRO-digest@uk.stratus.com
>From: bava001@pn.itnet.it (Claudio Bavassano)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Hello everybody.
>I am new on the list and regret if these arguments have been discussed
recently.
>I just bought a 94 Discovery MPI 2.0 16 valves with 20k Km.
>It seems it works very good but reading the manual I understand a red light
>Subject: Disco driver seat
signal should lit up when locking diff.
>I have no light at all.
>Secondly, I am 1,90 m. high and if the driver seat could be moved backwards
>Subject: Disco driver seat
at least 4-5 cm. it would be very nice for my legs.
>I inspected the seat and found at the end of both the toothed rails, two
stops wich end the shift back of the seat itself.
>It is possible to cut them out but then I suppose the seat will go back too
much without the possibility to be blocked and may be the rails could bend.
>Is there anybody who already solved the above problems ?
>Thanks in advance
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Thanks in advance
>C.Bavassano Italy  bava001@pn.itnet.it

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 12:28:15 -0500
From: rthomas@postoffice.ptd.net (Randall Thomas)
Subject: CA 86"LR FS, FYI

Found the following ad on one of the net classified things.  Kevin, are you
on the list?

>From "Special Car Journal Classifieds"
1955 Land Rover 86 Over $15,000 squandered on body-off restoration of rust-free
California car. Bronze green with new tan canvas. New or rebuilt everything.
Correct,
fully operational classic. Asking $9000 and will accept any reasonable
offer. Kevin Kay,
CA, Phone: 916-241-8337, FAX: 916-241-8339, Ad #2819

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 15:17:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Obscure parts

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Re: Obscure parts
Date:    95-12-10 15:16:49 EST
From:    Wdcockey

Sean McInerney inquires about parts for his '63 SII, and wants to stay
vintage correct.

>1.) Can anyone tell me the part numbers for the Solex carburetor correct for
>a 1963 Land Rover?....there may be numbers existent for electrically wired
>and heated as well as unheated versions.
Solex Carb w/o heater PA 10-5:  546029
Solex Carb w/ heater PA10-6: 546180
Sources: PAB, JC, DC, Greenways
Both rebuilt and new are available.

>2.)  What is the part number for the ignition waterproofing kit (rubber
boots
>for coil, distributor, and plugs)?
Checked both 6/73 and 9/88 Optional parts books, can find no mention of
waterproof ignition option. Probably military only option. Suggest contact
PAB or other military  spec. directly.

>3.)  What is the part number for the petrol fuel pump with glass sediment
>bowl?  Was this always the same part # for SII, early SIIa, late SIIa, and
>SIII?
Fuel Pump:  501735 ('64 Book, AC 7950446), 549761 (later books)
Repair kit: 272069, 8G2039 (AC1524507)
Overhaul kit: 542684, 18G8246, AEU2760 (AC 7950463)
Illustrated article on rebuilding pump in Dec. 95 LRO mag., pp136-138. More
detail than usual for such articles. 16 photos
Same fuel pump w/ sediment bowl appears to have been used for all SII, SIIA,
SIII until sediment bowl was dropped. Differences between '64 book and later
books appear to be end fittings supplied.

>4.)  The waterpump for the SIIa petrol is now absurdly priced in NA.....what
>is its part number?
Water pump, all civilian SII, SIIA: 530477, GWP312
Overhaul kit: 530590, RTC3072
Just got overhaul kit from PAB, parts w/o instructions. Inst. in factory
manual.

Sources:
P.A. Blanchard, military LR spec., lots of surplus parts, need to know what
you want York 01430 872765
John Craddock, Cannock. Specify if genuine LR is neccessary. 01543 577207
Dingocroft, High Wycombe 01494 448367
Greenways, Somerset, carb. spec. 01749 860267
To dial direct from U.S. 011-44-(UK number without leading 0)

On items purchased in U.K. 17.5% VAT is due. If retailer participates in
scheme then refund can be obtained when leaving UK with items, but most LR
parts dealers don't participate.
On mail orders shipped direct out of U.K. then no VAT is due. This can mean
that smaller, expensive parts are cheaper direct than via friend.

David Cockey
'60 SII SW
'60 SII PU
7/8 '59 SII SW (rusted together well used parts)

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 15:27:54 -0800
From: slade@teleport.com (Michael Slade)
Subject: Santana 6 cyl.????

Is there a supplier for Santana engines either in the UK, Spain, S. America
or the US?

In particular a friend and I are looking for the Santana 6, thinking that
it would be the ultimate engine.  Commonality of parts between the Rover 4
and the Santana 6 is the major reason for going with the Santana.

Does anyone have ay experiene regarding this engine?  Horror stories or
anything good to say about this engine or Santana in general?

We're looking for any type of contact either with Santana directly or with
remanufactureres of those engines, as in Turner from England.  I haven't
seen anything in LRO about contacting Santana, and figured the next best
place to look were the lists.

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 01:35:22 +0100
From: sm095re@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Kurt Reinhardt)

get lro-digest 951210

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 01:38:55 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: Oil and water don't mix

Trying to get Beryl running today, bad starter, had to replace, we towed and 
pulled her, thanks to Alan Richer's 109 "Churchill" she just would'nt fire. 
After closer inspection and after replacing the rebuilt starter, Alan pulled 
off the air intake, she fired, sounded as good as always. 

Checked the air cleaner element and found a hard sludge in the pan, seems 
that water had got in from the last off-roading trip, and the oil & water mix 
had frozen into a hard mush. !! Put in a replacement air filter unit and she 
worked fine. Beware !!!

Mark

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From: ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:12:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: stuff

A few thoughts on some of the recent ramblings on the digest... 
concerning receiver hitch mounted winches - I would have to say that the 
Rovers North application for the Discovery seems to me to be the best 
option - for a few reasons (in order of least-to-most important)... 1. 
Aesthetics - this set up offers the true "weekend warrior" the best of 
both worlds - a winch that can be removed for urban travel and quickly 
installed for the infrequent trips to the woods.  Also would please that 
former Range Rover owner who had the winch-concealed-behind-the-front-
license-plate style installed to mask their wild side.  2. This 
sounds silly, but was a fear of mine last week when, on a nice patch 
of ice I cruised through a stop sign in my 88" IIA - if you are 
unfortunate enough to rear-end someone, all you do is lose a bumper 
as opposed to a bumper, winch, roller fairlead, brushguard etc. etc. 
3. Helps out with the somewhat lacking approach angle that the LRNA winch
provides 4. And the most important reason as far as I'm concerned is the 
advantage of having a winch that can be used in both the front and rear 
receiver hitches - obviously providing infinite recovery possibilities 
(I'll admit that on at least one occasion I have resorted to passing the 
cable underneath my diffs and out the back to the only available tree 
around - but don't let anyone know :) ).  So, since I'm not much in to 
aesthetics on any Rover, points 1 and 2 should be taken lightly, but 
seriously consider points 3 and 4 unless you're really wealthy and can 
afford 2 winches...

Also, concerning the Defender 90 Thule racks - got em', love 'em, highly
reccomend them.  Besides the fact that I am a big fan of Thule (between 
the four of us in my family, over the last 12+ years, we've 
bought a different set for our Saab 900 and 9000, Audi 90 Q and 5000, 
Volkswagen Jetta, Land Rover 88" and Def 90 - keeping in mind, of course 
the fact that not all of the cars are still in our small family of 4!), 
the Defender rack is extremely easy to install which is both good and bad 
for the owner - easy to put on and equally easy to steal, since there are 
no locks for the rack itself.  Obviously, the rack is specific to the 90 
and by itself won't be stolen, but remember that even though the bike, 
ski, etc. attachments themselves lock, if the rack doesn't - everything 
can still be taken with ease.  The only problem that I have found is the 
fact that the bars are only 2.5' apart, so attachments like the angle ski 
rack mean that downhill skis go in fine, but x-country ones which are 
thicker in the middle and more flexed don't go in too easily.  I'm not 
kidding when I say that if you have the extra $700 for the new stainless 
steel Rovers North Safari rack, you're better off in many ways - not the 
least of which is the extra load carrying capacity (keep in mind  that I 
still use all of my Thule attachments on my full length galvanised 88" rack -
I've put together spacers that fill up the extra 1/2" width of the Thule 
bars compared to the rack's tubing) - providing the perfect spot for those 
looking for a place to put a hi-lift, jerry cans, axe etc. 
	On the topic of roof racks and weight, the Defender 90 Thule racks 
are registered at 100 lbs. of weight - which is a bit deceptive, 
though... If any of you have seen the new Car-Top tents, they attach to 
the 90's rack and when stationary, the Thule bars can easily support the 
spread-out weight of two adults sleeping in these tents - just don't go 
driving, because as soon as weight above the 100 lb. mark starts 
shifting around (like the Discovery owner learned on their off-road trip
that was written about a few days ago), the jolting effect will cause the
racks to weaken, bent, or worse - compromise the strength of the roll 
cage itself.  That's why there are suggested load limits on such racks.

And for trivia, of which I haven't provided much of recently b/c of an 
extended period away from the computer - today's may seem easy to people
in North America, but I'll bet that this one will in some way stump even 
the most seasoned of Rover fans... name as many items as you can that 
differentiate the *base* 1995 Defender 90 softtop from the base MY '94 
softtop (I've thought of 13 things that are significantly different)...
And for those with no interest what-so-ever in knowing 13 things about a 
'95 NAS Def. 90, I give you this trivia question - name the only 2 
countries in the entire world which have managed to keep Land Rover from 
legally selling their products within their borders.

Frank "Havana Daydreaming" Twarog
Burlington, VT 
 

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 18:19:27 -0800
Subject: Incomlpete digest.

Could someone please forward the 12/10 digest to me...it got eaten somewhere 
along the way and I only got the first message...
Thanks.

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Subject: LAND ROVER TOY NEWS
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 19:47:13 -0500

Majorette has done it again. Another variation on the ubiquitous Land 
Rover 90 and radar trailer.

This is the 1/60  series 300 number 362 Nasa scheme vehicle which has 
been around for a number of years now.

The latest variation is that the blue stripes on the side are a paler 
blue and the once silver chromed wheel hubs are now a blue chrome colour.

There were only two in the store (Zellers) so I bought both.

If you would like to receive an occasional toy / model digest devoted to 
Land Rover product marques please e mail me directly and Ill set 
something up.

Robin

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 18:40:47 PST
Subject: Re: 	what the heck?

What's going on with LRO digest?? Two times in two weeks the messages are not 
on the list! Can anyone shed the light. I'm going into withdrawal...

Cheerz
Jim - I need my LRO fix!

`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:43:36 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Here we go again...

What is up with the major???  19 messages on the 12/10 digest, yet only a 
fraction of the first message along with the major's usual message footers 
were sent.
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:48:27 -0800
From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Did we pass???

At 16:22 09.12.95 +0000, Oscar Beasley wrote:
>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>Testing, two three four.
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>Testing, two three four.
>beasleyo@milo.cfw.com (Oscar Beasley)

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:47:53 -0800
From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: (ALERT) INTERNET DAY OF PROTEST TUESDAY DECEMBER 12, 1995

While this is not directly relevant to Land Rovers, it does touch on a much
larger issue.  I provide it for your information and action as you see
appropriate.

Cheers!
John

>Return-Path: root@panix3.panix.com
>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:33:33 -0500 (EST)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 229 lines)]
>        End Alert
>========================================================================

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:48:22 -0800
From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: 10,000 miles on Discovery

Speaking of Discovery problems, I groused at my dealer about the
intermittent failure of my left rear directional.  He said that this was a
known problem (as do we all), and that he was ordering a complete set of
light sockets to replace all of them, not just the one that's defective.
May his tribe increase!

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

At 15:27 09.12.95 -0500, Gary Mitchelson wrote:
>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>-- [ From: Gary Mitchelson * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 25 lines)]
>garym@racalrecord.com     
>Racal Recorders, Inc.     

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 21:11 MST
From: jhoward@argus.lowell.edu (James D. Howard II)
Subject: Automobile Magazine wants opinions on the Discovery 

In the January 1996 issue of Automobile Magazine, on page 98, there is
the following blurb:

 If you own a 1995 ..., Land Rover Discovery, ...(several other
vehicles are listed), we'd like to hear from you.  We need to know
your name, address, and daytime telephone number; what you do for a
living, your age, your car's make and model; how long you've owned it;
how much you paid for it; whether there was a rebate on that amount;
your insurance cost on this car for one year; and whether you have had
any serious mechanical problems.  Also, what was your last car before
this one?  Most important, be specific in telling us what you like
most and least about your car.  We'll send you an Automobile Magazine
bumper sticker for your trouble (Oh, Goody!).  If your entry is
published as part of our Four Seasons report, we'll send you one of
out T-shirts, too (so send us your size and color preference - black,
green or blue).  Send your responses to: Four Seasons Tests,
Automobile Magazine, 120 East Liberty Street, Ann Arbor, Michigan
48104.

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 20:26:30 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Tranny getting cranky

Andrew Balser asks...

>	Since I have owned my ser.iii, the transmission has never been 
>quite perfect.  It never went smoothly into first, and it pooped out of
>first going down a steep driveway during the first week I owned it.  I 
>could live with all that pretty easily though by briefly shift into second 
>and then first.  
................snip....................
>to check things out.  Does anyone have any opinion on which parts will be 
>most damaged, and in what proportion?  Any attempt I make to fix the thing
>before embarking will be done with only basic tools on the (uneven) dirt 
>drive at my cabin, and with almost no $$ to boot.
-

It sounds like at the very least you have worn syncro rings and possibly
worn detent balls/springs. Once you pull the tranny apart you may find other
items. Pulling the transmission out requires removing the floor panels and
seat box - not a lot of fun in the cold (especially where you are). 

Personally, I would try swapping the tranny for a used one and hope for the
best. Keep in mind, that you will need to put in a SerIII transmission. You
could use a IIa transmission, but you would have to install a IIa slave
cylinder as well. 

Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol ('Sydney')     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol ('Fern')
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)
                     #:-}>

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 00:04:58 -0500
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

what happened to today's LRO digest-only got one of the messages, the rest
were no where to be seen?????

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From: howtaw@hg.uleth.ca
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:26:31 MST
Subject: Whats wrong with MajorDomo

Where did Dec 10, 1995 mailing list go?  I got one submission out of 20 or so.
This is the second time this has happened in two weeks.
Is there a problem at my end?

Andrew Howton

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