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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 09:06:57 +0001
From: wassili@AMC.UVA.NL (Roy Wassili)
Subject: Re: "Scarved for live" should be "Scarred .."

>          alive? I thought those new Landies had better
>          heaters. :-)
>          -Dave "reaching"

Well, I had it all wrong! :-(  So, there were I wrote scarved you have to
read scarred. I hope it makes sense now.
LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR
                ____
      |   _____/|__||   Roy Wassili,<wassili@amc.uva.nl>
      |  /(-8|  \   |   Avalon Green '95 Discovery, VG-XH-66
  ____|_/[]__|__\___|#  scarred for live
 |] __=|     |  __  |#
[|_/  \|_____|_/  \_|]
  ( o )        ( o )

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From: "geoffrey.m.halaburt"
Date:  7 Dec 95 22:16:28 
Subject: Re: 94 D90 Misc.

>> Re: Roofracks.  There has been a recent thread on Disco roof racks.  Does
anyone have the D90 LRNA/Thule roof rack system.  I saw it advertised in the
Rovers North Christmas flyer--it attaches to the roll cage above the doors, a
novel idea.  I am wondering if they will continue to make this base unit much
longer, given the lack of production of the D90 in the future.  I.e. should
buy one soon, or if there are other solutions which work based on more readily
available racks.<<

I've had the custom Thule mounts since I got my D90 (8/94).  They're great.  I 
have 4 of the Thule bike mounts (model 921?) on it and it's rock solid when 
loaded up.  The 2 crossbars can be removed easily with only a simple allen 
wrench.  It's also nice that the mounts don't interfere with the top (soft) at 
all including top removal/mounting).  Two caveats: clearance for garages, etc. 
is reduced from about 6'10" to 7'2" (with no bikes on it obviously), and 
getting bikes up there, especially nearer to the vehicle's center is a REACH.  
Even someone my height (6'5") appreciates the side step/guards for getting 
bikes up there.

-Geoff

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 00:45:44 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: UK Claymation Show?  (Non-LR -- Sorry!)

My sister, the one who brought me back the Britains model discovery, (<-- 
mandatory LR content!) saw a show while she was over there and wants to know 
what it was called, and is it on here in the states.

It is a claymation show about a farm, with an old grey horse and three mice 
from London.  And Ducks, and cows, and pigs and other farm-type stuff.  She 
thinks it was something like "Four Wind Farm" or something like that.  

If any of our brethren across the pond has any info on it, please e-mail me. 
 Thanks!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:01:26 -0200
From: bcotton@lia.co.za (Brian Cotton)
Subject: L-ROVERS IN THE MOVIES

Everyone (and Chris Youngston)

The LR FC in the "Sands of Kalahari" movie then belonged to Wolf Haake, a
long standing member of the LROC of SA.
It is a forward control (home made double cab) with a SWB rear load body on.
He hired the vehicle to the movie people who inturn payed him many monies.
The vehicle is now owned by a Safari tour operator in Namibia (South West
Africa).

Cheers
Brian Cotton
LROC of SA
SIII T I Diesel LBW camper
SIII Diesel SWB

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 08:31:00 -0500
From: michelbe@praline.net (Michel)
Subject: Boxpops

Stephen wrote:

<However on depressing the 4WD selector it did not click into place,
and instead rose straight back up again.>

Sometimes, major problems have very simple solutions. Let's hope this is the
case here. I had the same problem with Rudolph this summer. I was installing
carpets (latin for sound-deadening material) in the cab. I had to remove the
yellow knob and spring to be able to do so. Some time after that, when I
tried to engage 4WD (in the Hi position), the selector kept popping up. I
thought: Oh-Oh! transfer box problems.... But no! It was just the spring
under the yellow knob that was "screwed" in too far away in the transmission
tunnel cover.

Maybe that is the problem. Hope I can help.

Michel Bertrand
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada

1963 109 PU (Rudolph)
1968 109 SW Nada (in the works)
1973 88 SW (21st century project)

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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:40:53 -0500
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Roof rack limits

Roverites-
I just happened to get a brochure from SafariGard last night (Thanks Greg
and Brandi!).  The show a roof rack with, from memory, 600+ lbs rating.  I
assume the roof is capable of holding the load, Granville's story not
withstanding.  (Actually, I guess the roof didn't withstand it in that case
;-).

The other safarigard stuff is quite impressive.  I tactfully left it out
with for Ms. Claus to see, and armed the kids with lots of arguments why
the front bumper with skid plates would be a way cool xmas gift.  I can
provide better descriptions and prices if anyone is interested.  One note,
I was surprised by the high-ish price of the rock sliders (~$600).  Perhaps
I don't understand how much metal or fabricating is required, but I'd have
guessed closer to a $400 price point.  Still, the stuff they have for
rovers is extremely impressive, and anyone looking to equip a disco for
offroad performance may want to give them a call (909)698-6114.

Happy roverin'.
-Bob

  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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Date:  Fri, 8 Dec 1995 08:06:00 -0500 
From: "christian (c.j.) szpilfogel" <chrisz@bnr.ca>
Subject:  Front receivers 

Hi Gerry,

I saw your post on the front receiver. I am seriously considering this too.
I have been for quite a while actually, I just haven't gotten around to it :-).

A couple of questions:
  . Does it reduce the front clearance significantly?
  . How much did it set you back (moneywise)?

I've also seen advertised a bull bar set up where the front receiver
is mounted between the two verticle posts of the bull bars just above
the bumber.

Anybody have experience with this latter setup?

Cheers,

  -Christian
-------------------
Christian Szpilfogel
'95 Discovery
chrisz@bnr.ca
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 95 09:00:46 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Water ingestion by engine - ick!

Al waters his oil...
 
> What I ended up doing was putting a piece of fuel hose on the stub and
> routing it up the side of the filler nec, holding it in place with 3
> wire ties. This way, it's able to vent and t's not pointing forward to
> ingest water......double ick!
-

No,no... What you're supposed to do (according to Dixon) is to run a hose
from the filler neck down to the frame, so the oil vapors vent into the
frame...

Wait a darn minute! You've all got it wrong. In the late
          sixties, Land-Rover offered a PCV/PTO driven
          whiskey still. Simply mount the still in place of
          the air filter, route the filler neck hose to the
          still. Fill the sump with water and the grain of
          your choice. After a few hundred miles, attach the
          hose from the PTO driven pump to the still and out
          comes glorious Genuine Land-Rover Scotch. I've
          seen it in action and "boy, let me tell you" that
          is a damn fine product! Just call Bruce at DAP and
          ask him for one. He's got a couple laying around,
          but they won't last long!

          Dave "Uncle Jesse" Bobeck

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  8 Dec 95  7:46:35 EST
Subject: Re: Water ingestion by engine - ick!

Re: Venting the crankcase into the frame:

Yes, and the first time the chassis gets water in it the engine sucks it up as 
it cools.....

No thanks, I've had enough oil mousse for this week....8*)

     ajr

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From: Steve Thomas <THOMSE-U@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk>
Date:         8 Dec 95 12:00:33 GMT
Subject:      Trivia? Er well not really.......

Ok ok ok.......so it's not exactly Rover-related

You see Sarah's company does this Christmas quiz thing, and last year
Sarah's office won. So now they want to win again and I just thought,
seeing how trivia related the list is, maybe someone could come up
with the answer to this.....

 what+what = ptc?

Anyone got any (sensible!) suggestions for what ptc (lower case)
stands for?

Friday's have a lot to answer for....
Steve

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   ~---~                  ~---~            not a daily driver :)]

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:45:40 -0500
Subject: Off road 4 times?

You wrote: Well, I've passed the 10,000 mile mark on my '95 Disco. To date I
have not
had a problem with it. Am I doing something wrong? It has only been off-road
4 times so far. Can't wait for the snow."

What's snow got to do with going off-road!  If I waited for snow, I'd never
get off-road! :>)
Get that Land Rover off-road before we turn you over to the KROAKE (Keeping
Rovers On Asphalt Kills 'Em) Society.

Gerry "Phoenix: high-today: 75" Elam

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:45:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Front receivers 

(I wasn't clear so this may help)
The receiver itself doesn't reduce the clearance a bit!  That's the good
news.  It fits nice and neat between the air dam and the bumper.  The
clearance is only reduced when you add the winch.  Once the winch is added,
picture a cement block attached to your bumper... sticks out about 8 inches
level and is level with the bottom of the bumper.

I've never seen the other setup you mentioned. (In response to a mail item
"I've also seen advertised a bull bar set up where the front receiver is
mounted between the two verticle posts of the bull bars just above the
bumber.")  But it seems that the lever action of pulling about a foot higher
than the attachment point would be significant.  It would have to be very,
very sturdy to hold up under stress conditions.  I like my setup better even
though I have to think ahead about what I'm driving into and decided if I
want to stop and attach the winch.  

Good Luck..
Gerry E.

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  8 Dec 95 10:47:04 EST
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Water ingestion by engine - ick!

Various folks speculate on where to stick the oil vent hose, but David expounds:

>Wait a darn minute! You've all got it wrong. In the late
>          sixties, Land-Rover offered a PCV/PTO driven
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>          is a damn fine product! Just call Bruce at DAP and
>          ask him for one. He's got a couple laying around,
>          but they won't last long!

Hold it, hold it, hold it..... I may be DUMB, but I ain't STUPID.....
ths one stretches even MY credulity.

A good entry for the Anti-FAQ, though..see to it, will you, Dixon? 8*)

>          Dave "Uncle Jesse" Bobeck

"Dukes of Hazzard" - you mean somebody else was dumb enough to watch it?

 aj"I much preferred Daisy..."r
 

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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 95 12:15:05 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: Off road 4 times?

What's snow got to do with going off-road!  If I waited for snow, I'd never
get off-road! :>)
Get that Land Rover off-road before we turn you over to the KROAKE (Keeping
Rovers On Asphalt Kills 'Em) Society.

Gerry "Phoenix: high-today: 75" Elam

Of course city dwellers are exempt from this due to some
          potholes being equivalent to off roading. I drove
          down New York Avenue the other day and I'm quite
          sure the rear axle was airborne (hence off
          the road) several times. I actually got scared!

          Dave"Depends"Bobeck

          (see Al, I can even yank my own chain...)

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:49:50 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Synthetics

Oscar wrote:

>Subject: Synthetics
>What do you guys think of using synthetic, engine/transmission, under the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
>omont@mnl.sequel.net
>75247.2423@compuserve.com
>Philippines

I think the question is not so much driving condition as age and state of 
the engine.  If the vehicle is old (e.g. a Series Land-Rover), the engine 
was constructed with a relatively thick oil in mind and will not run well 
with synthetic oil.  If the vehicle is newer but the engine is not 
well-maintained, the synthetic oil might dissolve a lot of residue that 
actually keeps the engine running by providing compression of a sort.  In 
all other cases that I canm think of synthetic oil is absolutely worth its 
price.
BTW, this is worth what you paid for it!
Greetings
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
(30 deg F, 15 cm/6 inches of snow)

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  8 Dec 95 12:43:15 EST
Subject: Urban off-roading

With deference to those who think off-roading requires dirt, jackrabbits and 
other such undesirable things, I welcome any comments on same from anyone who 
regularly drives the streets and highways of Boston. When I can get lifted out 
of my seat by the roughness of the "patches" on Rutherford Avenue approaching 
the Gilmore Bridge, rocks and dirt look mighty good....

  aj"Thank God for Diesel springs"r

>Of course city dwellers are exempt from this due to some
>          potholes being equivalent to off roading. I drove
>          down New York Avenue the other day and I'm quite
>          sure the rear axle was airborne (hence off
>          the road) several times. I actually got scared!

>          Dave"Depends"Bobeck

>         (see Al, I can even yank my own chain...)
 
Jerk, hell! That wasn't even a twitch.....<grin>

 aj"And then there's bumper cars with the taxis"r

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Water ingestion by engine - ick! 
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 10:21:43 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

ajr wrote:

[Stuff about Genuine Land Rover Scotch deleted]

> Hold it, hold it, hold it..... I may be DUMB, but I ain't STUPID.....
> ths one stretches even MY credulity.
> A good entry for the Anti-FAQ, though..see to it, will you, Dixon? 8*)

	Dixon may not have seen it, but I have.  I added it to the FAQ about
30 seconds ago...

Ben
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88
 Science Applications International Corporation
 Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake

"...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entry
 from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere.  He'd drive it up the
 Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..."  --Kevin Archie

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From: Guy Arnold <GUY@facade.adm.clarkson.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 14:39:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Buying a Land-rover

I have to chuckle at these peolpe who think they can buy a Series 
rover with a rust free frame and everything working for under 
$2000.00. I hate to inform these newbies that it is never going to 
happen unless you find some widow in the northern woods who doesn't 
know what her husband had for  a vehicle.

I know that when I bought my Series III for $1100.00 US I knew that I 
was going to spend another $3,000 to $4,000 plus my time to fix it 
up. That is the reason I bought the vehicle so I could fix it up my 
way and to learn as much as I could about the vehicle on a first 
wrench basis. I obviously didn't buy the vehicle because it is 
excellent driver, if I had wanted that I would have bought another 
BMW or Benz. I bought it because I could work on it myself and it 
will go just about anywhere. For me, 75% of the fun was rebuilding 
the vehicle. For shear fun driving on the road I will use my 1960 MGA 
roadster (another vehicle I can repair myself, no computer needed).

If you don't want to work on these machines then by all means go 
through a garage or buy a completely rebuilt vehicle but be prepared 
to spend $7,000-$10,000. That is just the way the market works, 
supply and demand.

Guy Arnold
1973 Series III swb
1960 MGA 1600 roadster 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  8 Dec 95 15:16:11 EST
Subject: What do YOU call a good chassis? <discussion>

Here's a question for you.....

Personally, I call 'em as I bend 'em - structural integrity is all.

THe chassis under my 109 is best described as FUUUUUUGLY (translation by email 
for those who feel the need...). It's been repaired in several places by myself 
and POs, but it's sound, serious rust-free, and I'd have no qualms about taking 
up Kilimanjaro (with other tires...).

I don't care about cosmetics. As LRO said when they did a buye's guide for the 
Series IIa machines, it's a damned rare vehicle that hasn't had some chassis 
welding done on it somewhere in its lifetime. The trick is to make sure it was 
done RIGHT, and not bodged. That's where the hammer comes in...

    aj"12-ga steel - not a patch, a REPAIR"r

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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 95 15:58:47 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: What do YOU call a good chassis? <discussion>

To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

Here's a question for you.....

Personally, I call 'em as I bend 'em - structural integrity is all.

THe chassis under my 109 is best described as FUUUUUUGLY (translation by email 
for those who feel the need...). It's been repaired in several places by myself 
and POs, but it's sound, serious rust-free, and I'd have no qualms about taking 
up Kilimanjaro (with other tires...).

I don't care about cosmetics. As LRO said when they did a buye's guide for the 
Series IIa machines, it's a damned rare vehicle that hasn't had some chassis 
welding done on it somewhere in its lifetime. The trick is to make sure it was 
done RIGHT, and not bodged. That's where the hammer comes in...

    aj"12-ga steel - not a patch, a REPAIR"r

Mine had many patches, some better than others, but some
          areas were beyond hope and certainly all could not
          have been done for under $500. (I don't have
          welder or welding skill) So a good used frame for
          $500 bucks was the way to go. Otherwise I would
          have just fixed it. In other words I didn't need a
          NEW frame, but I got a good deal on one, so I got
          it.
          Dave

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:33:29 -0500
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Dail...

get land-rover-owner aaa.readme

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:08:49 GMT -0600
Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) FW: Holiday Fruitcake Recipe (hic!) (fwd) -Forward

I know all you LR owners like good whiskey so thought you might like 
this for the holidays ahead.
********************************************************************

A friend emailed me this fruitcake recipe just in time for the 
holidays.

Well, here's a cheery christmas recipe to get into the christmas
spirit.   Enjoy!

HOLIDAY FRUIT CAKE RECIPE

You'll need the following: a cup of water, a cup of sugar, four large eggs,
two cups of dried fruit, a teaspoon of baking soda, a teaspoon of salt, a
cup of brown sugar, lemon juice, nuts, and a bottle of whisky.

Sample the whisky to check for quality. Take a large bowl.

Check the whisky again. To be sure it is the highest quality, pour one
level cup and drink. Repeat. Turn on the electric mixer, beat one cup of
butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add one teaspoon of sugar and beat again.

Make sure the whisky is still okay. Cry another tup. Turn off the mixer.
Break two leggs and add to the bowl and chuck in the cup of dried fruit.
Mix on the turner. If the fried druit gets stuck in the beaterers pry it
loose with a drewscriver.

Sample the whisky to check for tonsisticity. Next, sift two cups of salt.
Or somefthing. Who cares? Check the whiskey. Now sift the lemonn juice and
strain your nuts. Add one table. Spoon. Of sugar or somefing. Whatever you
can find.

Grease the oven. Turn the cake tin to 350 degrees. Dontt forget to beat off
the turner. Thfrow the bowl out of the window, check the whisky again and
go to bed.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 17:53:45 -0500 (EST)
From: James Kirkpatrick - INEN/F94 <jkirkpat@acs.ryerson.ca>
Subject: Re: Urban off-roading

Some of the best "off-roading" I've done was through the largest mall in 
town.  Once was after hours, without the concent of security which 
involved stairs and the like and twice durring a British Car show in the 
mall where the IIA was on show.  Slalom (sp?) between the plants and 
benches on nice white shinny marble is always a change.  Navagating the 
food court was the most chalenging with all those chairs! 

Regards,

Jay Kirkpatrick
'55 Ser I
'58 Ser II
'70 Ser IIA
 

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From: KKelly6788@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:57:44 -0500
Subject: Range Rover Recall

I just received a notice (Safety Recall #95V-155) in the mail today that Land
Rover was recalling all '87-'91 Range Rovers with the 20 gallon fuel tank.

The notice said that rust could start between the stone guard and the fuel
tank and eventually cause leaking.  I am happy because I have a dent in my
tank and a piece of wood stuck between the stone guard and the tank (I ran
over an old tree stump).

The notice said that most failures were in area's with salt on the roads, but
it would be replaced free of charge for all owners regardless of where you
live or drive.

It also said if you have already paid to have the tank replaced  "kindly
provide your dealer with a copy of your receipt for having the work performed
and you will be reimbursed."

Kevin Kelly
'89 Range Rover

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From: rpeng@cadev6.intel.com
Subject: re: D90 SW update
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 16:34:50 PST

| We have none available after today. We are still taking deposits on the odd 
| change we can get extra units from LRNA, but we cannot guarantee people a 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
| but again, no 1996 Defender...
| Jim

I'm confused about something: is Land Rover simply going to stop importing
the D90 to the U.S. (at least for '96), or are they going to cease production 
of this vehicle all together? If it's the latter, what's the British army
going to do, start driving around in Discoveries?

Another thing that puzzles me is that, if there is enough demand for this 
vehicle, why doesn't LRNA just send more over to sell this year? After all, 
they've got all year next year to clear the inventory.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roger Peng                                     (408)765-7863
Intel Corporation
Design Technology, Physical CAD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 08 Dec 95 21:06:20 EST
From: Cliff  Kavanaugh <76262.1154@compuserve.com>
Subject: 1988RR electrical nightmare

#1. I know this is gonna sound crazy but when I hit my break pedal to make a
turn, the head lights dim and the heater fan slows down. 
#2. I've recently replaced a "defective" battery,and installed a trailer hitch
electrical harness for directional signals.  Afterwards  the speedometer crapped
out followed by the Tachometer a few days later.  The  driver side electric
window motor blew last week.  Are these electrical problems inter-related or is
it merely coincidence?  The head light dimming had pre dated the other
electrical problems. Can anyone offer a reasonable diagnosis?  Cheers Cliff
76262.1154@ COMPUSERVE.COM 
88RR Blue Meanie  

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 19:00:42 -0800 (PST)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: 1988RR electrical nightmare

Diagnosis?  How about a few unreasonable questions?

What happens it you just take your foot off the accelerator?  Do your 
headlights dim and the fan slow down?  Have you had your alternator 
checked out?  

I don't have any idea why the speedo and tach would be tied into the 
electrical system (I assume they are mechanical, if not there's your 
connection).   

It sounds as though you might be getting uneven (very uneven) electical 
output.  That could cause a lot of problems, including a bad battery, 
dimming lights, and so on.

Rgds,

Walt          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network | 1988 Range Rover              * 
              * Davis, California       | 1967 109 Series IIA Safari SW *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

On 8 Dec 1995, Cliff Kavanaugh wrote:

> #1. I know this is gonna sound crazy but when I hit my break pedal to make a
> turn, the head lights dim and the heater fan slows down. 

> #2. I've recently replaced a "defective" battery,and installed a trailer 
hitch electrical harness for directional signals.  Afterwards the
speedometer crapped out followed by the Tachometer a few days later.  The
driver side electric window motor blew last week.  Are these electrical
problems inter-related or is it merely coincidence?  The head light
dimming had pre dated the other electrical problems. Can anyone offer a
reasonable diagnosis?  Cheers Cliff

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 22:50:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Water ingestion by engine - ick!

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995 LANDROVER@delphi.com wrote:

> No,no... What you're supposed to do (according to Dixon) is to run a hose
> from the filler neck down to the frame, so the oil vapors vent into the
> frame...

	'tis called continuous oiling for those of us in salt challenged 
	environments...

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 22:57:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: How many are left ?? 

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Benjamin Allan Smith wrote:

> 	If only I could grep through the various DMV databases for the 50
> states on the word Rover....

	The problem with this type of number playing is many...

	Rover North America says X Land Rovers were imported and sold.

	Fine, but....   This number does not include those imported directly
	into Canada (for example) by Shell, The various Cdn Government
	departments, other companies, Hydro QUebec... etc...  All of these
	other "imports" would not appear in Rover NA stats since they never
	saw the vehicles in the first place.  16k vehicles?  I'd say it
	was a lot higher...  Looking at the rot level, and those surviving,
	LR's are not that imune to rust.   Greater initial numbers must have
	been here...  The 16k figure was arrived at in an unscientific
	way...

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 22:39:35 PST
Subject: Re: 	LRNA Sales Goals

In response to Ben's query abt tot number of LR's sold in NA this year - I 
have no final tally except to say that LRNA is on target. They were over 18000 
units at the beginning of the month (Dec) and had its best month in US history 
in November with over 2000 units delivered!

Congrats to all of the lucky new owners.. See you all around over the next 
twenty years or so!!

cheers,

Jim 
`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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