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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 20:33:58 +1100 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: monash access time

It was taking me 12 minutes to login on Saturday!

I'd be interested to know how long it takes
to load a page *on Monday Australian EST after 12 noon*
after it has been fixed up

Lloyd

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Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 21:50:58 -1000
From: Alan Smedley <alans@mpx.com.au>
Subject: Re: Shock Absorbers on '92 Range Rover 

I have owned a '92 Ramge Rover for the last few months.  It had only done
47,000Kms when purchased and now has just over 61,00Kms.  I recently had to
replace the shock absorbers and chose on advice from the dealer I purchased
the vehicle from here in the outer west of Sydney - John Davis Motorworks -
the Koni Oil filled replacements.  The ride is now really teriffic,  Only
problem is it now shows up the few squeeks and rattles that exist.  Haven't
really tried it off road much yet but I have been on a couple of rough
tempory gravel roads and the vehicle is much better than with the standard
shocks.  I had Bilstiens on my previous Ranger Rover, but I think this one
is better with the Koni's.
 
The Steering damper was also a bit sad and my the dealer recomended the
Bilstein unit as a replacement.  In the process of fitting the new unit he
recomended adding brackets to fit the old damper to the front steering arm
as it damps down any remaining movement from the steering.  I am really
pleased I took his advice as now the vehicle drives on (Sydney's rougher)
city roads without any wander at all.  I really find it much better.  My
wife noticed the improvement too.
 

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Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 21:51:00 -1000
From: Alan Smedley <alans@mpx.com.au>
Subject: Re:  3.9 Range Rover fuel consumption 

Can anyone make suggestions as to how best I can improving the fuel economy
of my '92 3.9 Range Ronver.  I am getting around 300Kms per tank of unleaded
fuel where as I was consistantly getting over 400Kms on my previous Range
Rover, an '87 Highline with over 210,000Kms on the clock when I sold it.

On both vehicle I was able to achieve about 600Kms on country trips, with a
similar load on board.

On the '87 model I improved the fuel consumption a bit after adding
exrtractors and a 2.5 inch exhaust system but I "cannot see" a change like
that on the '92 accounting for the difference I am seeing.

It has also been suggested that I have the computer reprogrammed but at
$AU550.00 and around $AU1500:00 for extractors and a stainless steel exhoust
its a lot to spend in what could not gain what I am looking for in fuel
consumption.
  
Aside from driving on eggshells any suggestions would be appreciated.  Can
anyone explain the big difference in economy between the 3.5 and the 3.9
engines?
 
I have spoken with owners who regularly get around 400Kms per tank in city
driving conditions after having the engine bored and stroked to 4.7 litres.
 

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Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 21:55:52 -1000
From: Alan Smedley <alans@mpx.com.au>
Subject: Please Explain Land Rover Models

I ahve been subscribing to the LRO Digest for a couple of weeks and I have
noticed code names used on the list for vehicles I am not familiar with. Can
someone enlighten (possible a number of readers) as to what the similarities
are of vehiles Internationally and what they are called in different Land
Rover Sales regions.  

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From: JCassidyiv@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 08:26:55 -0500
Subject: Disco Steering Probs

I'm writing about my wife's '95 Disco(10,200 miles) which for the last week
has had a squeaking/moaning sound in the cabin when the steering wheel is
turned either left or right.  This has progressed from an intermittent
problem to a constant one.  It happens when the cabin is both cold and warm,
and there has been no recent offroading with the vehicle.  Any ideas, or
anyone with similar problems?  It's quite annoying.
Cheers!  John
1995 Disco
1987 RR(with OME springs-I love 'em)
1966 IIA 88" Petrol(STILL under resto.)

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From: monk@math.udel.edu
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 10:37:03 -0500
Subject: Off road in DE,PA,MD

Hi
Does anyone have suggestions for off road driving areas in south eastern
Pennsylvania, Delaware, Northern Maryland or the DelMarVa penninsula?
My disco thanks anyone who answers...

Peter
Peter Monk
     Department of Mathematical Sciences      Phone: 302-831-1873
     University of Delaware                   FAX  : 302-831-4511
     Newark, DE 19716
     USA 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  5 Nov 95 10:28:23 EST
Subject: Lucked out, but need help....

Whilst browsing my favorite junkyard yesterday, I ran across a Lumenitron 
ignition system on the remains of an ancient MGB. I got the firewall box and 
the wiring attached to it, but someone had removed the engine and distributor 
and as such I could not grab the bit that goes in the 25D4 distributor.

Anybody got any suggestions as to wherre I can buy the distributor innartds to 
go with the bit I grabbed? (preferably a US supplier).

     aj"Packrats R" Us"r

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From: "Craig R. Jett" <cjett@voicenet.com>
Subject: RE: Disco Steering Probs
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 10:47:41 -0500

John,
I have the same problem with a squeak in the steering column, but only =
when the Disco is cold.  When the cabin warms up everything is norm.  My =
problem started 2 weeks after the purchase, My '95 Disco with leather =
had been delievered with the standard steering wheel, not the leather =
wrapped which it should have.  The dealer didn't want to give me =
anything off the leather price, but offered to swap it out for a leather =
wrapped one, I agreed, I wish I hadn't.  The problem has not been that =
bad, weather here in PA has not, until this weekend, been that cold.  I =
plan to tell the dealer about it at the 15K service which will be some =
time shortly after Thanksgiving.  I'll post the outcome of that service =
trip, unless anyone else has a resolve, before then.
Craig Jett
1995 Disco

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From: 	JCassidyiv@aol.com[SMTP:JCassidyiv@aol.com]
Sent: 	Sunday, November 05, 1995 8:26 AM
Subject: 	Disco Steering Probs

To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

I'm writing about my wife's '95 Disco(10,200 miles) which for the last =
week
has had a squeaking/moaning sound in the cabin when the steering wheel =
is
turned either left or right.  This has progressed from an intermittent
problem to a constant one.  It happens when the cabin is both cold and =
warm,
and there has been no recent offroading with the vehicle.  Any ideas, or
anyone with similar problems?  It's quite annoying.
Cheers!  John
1995 Disco
1987 RR(with OME springs-I love 'em)
1966 IIA 88" Petrol(STILL under resto.)

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:34:18 PST
Subject: Re: 	Misc.

- my comment on all of this web site stuff... *WOW!* I feel like an altar boy 
who caught the priest guzzling wine after communion... My thoughts tend to 
follow those voiced by *FERN* Let's appreciate what functionality it offers 
the enthusiast. Someone will always have to put in many hours of thankless 
work so that others might take it all for granted. That's human nature.

- D90 stuff. There are precious few ragtops in dealer inventories as we speak. 
No pitch intended but if anyone has been contemplating the purchase of one - 
start making calls now. Metro West is still accepting orders but we cannot 
guarantee that we can fill all of the orders.

-D90SW stuff. Don't know how many of the 500 allocated units have no orders - 
but I have been receiving private postings with inquiries. Strategy? See 
previous paragraph.

-D110 on blocks. Wasn't intended to ivory tower this vehicle - only to 
illustrate that it is a really clean truck! I suppose you can think of it 
as... If I'm going to be paying new car money for a truck, then this 
particular example is as new car as I've seen... I can't really imagine anyone 
trashing a NAS D110 - even if they had brought in 5000 of them and the resale 
numbers weren't what they are. I never looked at a lwb Land Rover as a 
*trasher* That's what they invented SWB for!

-The fellow with the starter problem. That should have all been warranty 
covered. I'm also confused as to why he had to shell out additional 300 bucks.

-D90 springs. ARB/10000# Warn setup is very heavy - yes. You should experience 
sag quickly with the stock springs. OME springs high enough rate and will also 
raise ride height and increase wheel travel. I am putting LR D110 rear springs 
on mine - my need was to maintain stock ride height (garage door clearance 
w/Hella 3000s on top!) but to obtain the higher spring rate to avoid sag. Mark 
at RN very helpful in this regard so we decided on the D110 setup - they sell 
both BTW. 

-Fellow w new classic RR. Congrats. No, running boards will not alter ground 
clearance. The 8.1" is under the diffs. It will affect body clearance with the 
ground however. If you're doing severe off-roading and rock climbing, expect 
some damage to these - however they can prevent damage to the sills/body. I'd 
rather bend the boards than the body!

-Worked the Metro West booth at NE auto show yesterday. Crowd magnets - all 
models. But, which one drew the biggest crowds? Yep. The D90. Never fails. 
Couldn't believe we shared space with.... Suzuki!!! They had this silly little 
thing called an *X90* up on a turntable. A gorgeous blonde was standing by it 
- not extoling its virtues. I asked her if she had an order in on one yet. 
*Are you kidding* was the response. Most people I overheard after looking at 
it....*is it a real car?* I don't expect this to be an overwhelming sales 
success. Suzi should have stuck to bikes. Line extension can be a killer! So, 
I hope that there are no plans to produce Land Rover pianos or electric 
guitars.

cheerz
Jim - babbling all the way to armageddon

`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 10:02:23 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: RE: Disco Steering Probs

For what it's worth, I have the same squeak on mine when I first drive 
it.  I don't think it has anything to do with the leather as it seems to 
be deeper in the steering column than that.  It sounds more like plastic 
bearing seals or some such rubbing together.  It's fairly faint, 
undamaging sounding and only lasts about five minutes, so I've chalked 
off as part of my Landie's character.  If your dealer finds out 
otherwise, please post it to the list.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery

On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Craig R. Jett wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> John,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 46 lines)]
> 1987 RR(with OME springs-I love 'em)
> 1966 IIA 88" Petrol(STILL under resto.)

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From: "Craig R. Jett" <cjett@voicenet.com>
Subject: RE: Disco Steering Probs
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:52:12 -0500

Again, for what it's worth, I didn't mean that the leather was the =
cause, just that, I didn't have the problem until the dealer yanked off =
the steering wheel and replaced it with a leather wrapped one, obviously =
disrupting something within the column which is where my problem is =
also.  I'll post what the dealer has to say shortly.
Craig
'95 Disco

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From: 	John C. White III[SMTP:jcwhite3@well.com]
Sent: 	Sunday, November 05, 1995 5:02 AM
Cc: 	Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.com
Subject: 	RE: Disco Steering Probs

For what it's worth, I have the same squeak on mine when I first drive
it.  I don't think it has anything to do with the leather as it seems to =

be deeper in the steering column than that.  It sounds more like plastic =

bearing seals or some such rubbing together.  It's fairly faint,
undamaging sounding and only lasts about five minutes, so I've chalked
off as part of my Landie's character.  If your dealer finds out
otherwise, please post it to the list.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery

On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Craig R. Jett wrote:

>
> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> John,
> I have the same problem with a squeak in the steering column, but only =
=3D
> when the Disco is cold.  When the cabin warms up everything is norm.  =
My =3D
> problem started 2 weeks after the purchase, My '95 Disco with leather =
=3D
> had been delievered with the standard steering wheel, not the leather =
=3D
> wrapped which it should have.  The dealer didn't want to give me =3D
> anything off the leather price, but offered to swap it out for a =
leather =3D
> wrapped one, I agreed, I wish I hadn't.  The problem has not been that =
=3D
> bad, weather here in PA has not, until this weekend, been that cold.  =
I =3D
> plan to tell the dealer about it at the 15K service which will be some =
=3D
> time shortly after Thanksgiving.  I'll post the outcome of that =
service =3D
> trip, unless anyone else has a resolve, before then.
> Craig Jett
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
>
> I'm writing about my wife's '95 Disco(10,200 miles) which for the last =
=3D
> week
> has had a squeaking/moaning sound in the cabin when the steering wheel =
=3D
> is
> turned either left or right.  This has progressed from an intermittent
> problem to a constant one.  It happens when the cabin is both cold and =
=3D
> warm,
> and there has been no recent offroading with the vehicle.  Any ideas, =
or
> anyone with similar problems?  It's quite annoying.
> Cheers!  John
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:42:56 -0600 (CST)
From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Head rebuilt.

Hi all.

I just rebuilt Aurens' head due to a burnt exhaust valve. New valves,
springs, seals, a new guide and a new cam follower kit.

The no. eight valve was burnt and i drove around for about 1 1/2 month on
three cylinders. Not a catastrophy, just leave home 10 minutes earlier. All
this because of the usual time/money problem. This problem was solved when
i got fired the day after i got a bank loan. Good timing eh?

I took the head off, cleaned it, and took everything apart (except guides)
and started to grind in the new valves. I found that guide no. 7 had serious
slack and changed it. The tools to drive the guides in and out with (there
are four) are really expensive, - about !80.- plus tax. So i drove the guide
out with a short piece of steel. To drive the new guide in i used an old
valve sliding a thick washer, the old guide and the new guide over it and
banging the flat surface with a two pound hammer. It's cheap and it works.

When i was ready to fit the head i cleaned the tappets and found one
squashed (they are brass). Ordered a new kit but had to wait another day.
Well two days actually, it started snow real bad.

My brother came over yesterday and we dropped the head back on and fitted
some auxiliaries before dark. I put the rest back on today and went for a
test drive.

What power. What pull. Doing the cylinder head is really a miracle cure
(providing that the engine is in a reasonable condition).

Perhaps i'll grind valves each 100 kkm. It's really a simple operation when
you get started, isn't it? But it's cold when your shop is the back of a
109.

Rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:46:41 -0800 (PST)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: D90 Stock Springs w/ winch, etc.

Dear Jim,
In regard to D90 springs, I have a "stock" '94 D90 with the front brush 
bar, Warn winch (8000#, behind and under the bumper) and front "engine 
protection plate" - The ride seems great to me. I imagine that the Land 
Rover accessories were chosen in concert with their choice of springs?

The reason I ask is that my comparison vehicles (55 Chevy, 66 Scout) make 
the Land Rover feel heavenly under any circumstances so I probably 
wouldn't know if the springs were over-loaded. Have you heard of any 
problem with the load of stock accessories?

Thanks and best wishes,
David

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From: Treski@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:59:08 -0500
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:59:07 -0500
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:12:31 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Terrible threat from BMW

About the BMW-Threat-Thread:
The last time BMW tried its hand at a 4x4 (to my knowledge) was 1967-71, 
after they took over Glas (who formerly made a wonderful very miniature car 
called the Goggomobil and went belly up trying to market a standard-size 
car)and continued with Glas experiments to build an amphibious 4x4 with a 
BMW 2000 engine in the middle.  Did they try after that?  Any hard news?

Sorry to be so late, just back from the USofA and still trying to catch up 
with three weeks worth of lro!
Regards
Peter Hirsch
107 SI S/W

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:01:33 -0600 (CST)
From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Series II turn Signal stalk - different from S.II?

In message Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:38:23 -0500,
  chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)  writes:
;;
;; My late IIA (1969) does not have the returner thingy, you have to turn it
;; off manually. Of course, you can leave it on...left or right...and just
;; tell those who honk at you you're warming up for a turn.
;;
;; Chris

After a few years in cold climate a sIII doesn't have a returner thingy
either. The two little plastic arms get brittle and brake off and the driver
must return the tentacle manually. It's a Lucas part...

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:59:49 -1000 (HST)
From: Pat Guerin <pat@puka.com>
Subject: Re: monash access time

What about having it at 2 sites?  One in .au and one stateside?  I could 
check to see if I can put it on my server.  Right now I have a Hawaiian 
Land Rover Web Page at http://www.puka.com

check it out....aloha, Pat

p.s. The web Page is still under construction!

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:20:23 -0500
From: Matt Neibaur <matt@jax.gttw.com>
Subject: Re: Discovery Woes

John Writes:

Huh, Matt?  Did your dealer really charge you to replace the defective
alternator even though your Landie's still on warranty?  How did he
justify that?

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No, the dealer only charged me for the 7,500 mile service.  The warranty
covered the rest of the bill - around $300 + the towing charge.  In all,
the service was  good.  I still love driving this vehicle - just hope it
will keep on going for the next thirty years.

Matt Neibaur  matt@jax.gttw.com

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From: JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:42:00 -0500
Subject: D-90 suspension answers

Lou,

I may be able to shed some light on your suspension questions.

The addition of the OME751's to the front and OME758's to the rear will
still leave you with a rear that sits about 1.5 inches higher than the
front.  You will still get the sensation that the nose of the truck sags.
I had previously replaced my front coils with a new set of rear Defender
coils to correct for the same sag (ARB bumper and winch).  While
installing the OME kit, I took the time to compare the OME 751's with the
stock Defender rear coils (now on the front).  These coils seem to be
almost identical.  When installed, the coils measure the same height
compressed.

The new rear coils are a different story.  The article in one of the 4X4
magazines, (FourWheeler?) claimed a dramatic increase in suspension
travel for the rear.  Upon comparing the differences in the coils, I am
inclined to agree.  The only problem is that the rear coils lift the
truck a few inches.

After weighing pro's and con's, I decided to live with the slight sag to
get the increased rear travel.  Any attempt to increase the front height
might necessitate additional modifications.  (longer flex lines and
offset radius arm bushings?)

Regards,

Jim Cirbus
94 D-90  #730

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:01:08 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES  <tonyy@waalpha.wa.BoM.GOV.AU>
Subject: Movies.

Jim Cirbus just beat me to it with Outbreak, Milk Money with Melanie 
Griffith (very cutesy feel good movie), features 3 seconds of a RR.

Since this started I don't think I've seen a movie WITHOUT a Rover.
Perhaps we should have a list of movies with no Landrovers, it might be 
easier!

Daryl answered the RS question very well, I think I'll leave it at that.

Cheers.

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 21:23:58 -0700
Subject: Do I *really* need to stop?

[BTW, this is about brakes, not flames... :-) ]

Sigh. Lots of talk about brakes lately, all of which I've been trying to 
follow. I've known I need brake attention for a few months on my '66 IIa 88. 
Well, now its getting worse.

Last weekend, after we had a hard cold snap (into the teens f), my brakes 
started to get mushyer. For the last year, its been a pretty consistant 
"first pump, some brakes, second pump real brakes." Now it takes three pumps 
to get much, and the first does almost nothing. I don't know if the cold is 
related or not. I checked my resivoir and it was low (about half full), so I 
suspect I've allowed air into the system. I checked all the line joints, and 
can't find any leaks, and now that I've filled the resivoir the problem seems 
to have stabalized.

So I decided to have a go at bleeding the brakes, and the bleed nipples are 
frozen! Aarrrgh! I could feel the nut begining to strip on the far front 
wheel, so I stopped there. As from Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance: 
"You could almost hear the gumption escaping like air from a baloon, 
ssssssssssssss..."

Elighten me, o Rover gods of the net.

Just for the record, the fluid is Castrol GTLMA. Thats what the P.O. 
said use *only*. And I've learned here that the fluid type is critical, but 
there is no specific reference to it in the version of the FAQ I have on 
file. Tell me this is correct, please. Either that or I've discovered the
problem...

Thanks for the all the help.

BTW, you guys are great, squabbles & all. I'd never be able to deal with my 
Rover without you (I'm the only Series owner I know, except for the list and 
the P.O. (and he's an idiot)).

Last, thanks to whoever mentioned checking the oil in the steering relay. I 
did, and it was damn near dry. Thanks for the tip.

Tim 
"Even after a year, he's still learning just what he's gotten himself into" 
--- 
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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Date: 05 Nov 95 22:14:01 EST
From: Robert Dennis <73363.427@compuserve.com>
Subject: OME springs

On 11/2 John Cassidy wrote:

 >> Distance between front axle housingand bump stop increased from 2.25
inches to 3.75 inches on both sides. Distance in the rear increased from 3
inches to 4.25 inches on the right andfrom 3.75 inches to 5 inches on the
left.  The vehicle rides somewhatstiffer, but is not rough.  The height
increase is noticeable when enteringand exiting the vehicle, though. <<

 I just now got around to measuring the clearance on my 90RR with Old Man Emu
springs. Mine have been on the vehicle for a little over three months now and
I had a feeling that the springs may have settled a little since I installed
them.  So, I decided to measure mine so that I could compare them to John
Cassidy's. I don't have any earlier measurements for my suspension, but I do
not think that there was much difference between the 87 and 90 RR suspension.
(If I am wrong please correct me) So I will assume that the two vehicles would
have had similar measurements.

                        F/L      F/R      R/L      R/R
           RR Stock:   2.25"    2.25"    3.75"    3.00"

           With OME:   3.75"    3.75"    5.00"    4.25"

 OME after 3 months:   2.75"    2.75"    4.75"    4.125"

  Change from Stock:    +.5"     +.5"   +1.00"   +1.125"

 These measurements were taken between the axle and the bumper at the outside
edge. I still find that the ride is firmer that stock, but with the springs
settling, the height difference is not as noticable.

 I am a little curious about the differences between the left and right on the
rear axle. The bumper end caps measured the same height, and their was no
noticeable lean, but there is a difference of more than 1/2" between the two
sides. Anyone have any ideas?

 John, I think you may like these springs even more in a month or so.

 Rob

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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 23:20:14 -30000
From: "Adam Messer" <amesser@usaid.gov>
Subject: Disco in the drink

The rainy season here (Tanzania) is pretty unforgiving, so I prepared my 94 
Disco 200 Tdi with wading plugs as specified in the owner's manual.  We ended 
up on the safari from hell, towing a trailer repeatedly through puddles so 
deep that the water was washing up over the hood.  Though dramatic, we 
cruised right on through the deep puddles, which covered an all-weather dirt 
road.  The alternator light came on repeatedly, but it does this even when we 
go through a deep puddle in town. The only damage was the fire blanket--it 
got really soggy and pulled away from the hood.  No prob--the dealer replaced 
it under warranty.

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From: Brian Neill Tiedemann <s914440@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
Subject: trivia: wheels
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 16:39:17 +1100 (EDT)

Guys,
don't mean to be picky, but if anyone with a series LR tries to put RR 
standard old steel wheels on, they will find out about cross 
compatibility in Rovers! Series LRs have 6 bolt drive flanges, and the 
RRs have 5 bolt, and the "star points" of the steel wheel are positioned 
to clear 5- not 6 bolts. LR wheels do fit over RR drive flanges though.
I think that this changed about when coils appeared- does a Stage 1 have 
5 or 6? Anyone? 110s seem to have 5 bolts, and 88/109s 6. Stud pattern is 
the same for all.
Granted, however, that some extensive creativity would be needed to make 
101 wheels fit any other LR/RR... now wot do I do wiv da extra hole?? 
mmmm duzznt fit???!!

Cheers,
BT
77 RR.

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: trivia: wheels
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:53:45 +1030 (CST)

> to clear 5- not 6 bolts. LR wheels do fit over RR drive flanges though.

I have seen older series vehicles with rangie wheels fitted, but I dont know
just how much gas-axe + BFH work was required.  Judging by the size of the
hole in the centre of the rim  lots....

>  does a Stage 1 have 5 or 6? Anyone?
Here's a clue.  the stage 1's official name is  Series III V8.  same hubs and
flanges as (dare I say it) the later post metric rationalisation series III's
(ie rangie bearings)  Mind you my stage 1 has the old style hubs, I'm
starting to wonder if there was a suppliers strike in 12/82, mine seems to be
a bit of a parts box special..... 

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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