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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 23:22:27 +1100 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Trivia

ok, Robert Dennis  has it like lightning:
   RR SII was codenamed Discovery in development

So the next question is of course, what was
Disco's code name ????

Who is going to form the trivia web page - please.

---

Roverweb -  please calm down, it hurts my ears!
   Save the flames for Jeeps.
   btw. you don't need to `copyright (c)' stuff - it automatically is,
        but it is probably worth (c) emphasising the point,
        although none of us has the money to enforce (c) anyway.

   Heck, let's test OVLR's sense of humour:
      I thought  `....ca.us'  was Canada.us  are you telling me
      it's califonia after all?

However: D McKain raised the super-disinformation-highway-bahn issue.
   There are some shining examples of * authoritative * web sites:
    . Internet movie database
    . web museum (ex Louvre)
   to name but two.  I doubt those two can ever be "rolled".
   They have such a clear aura about them and there seems to be
   huge collective goodwill (and some $) to keep them going.
   Just maybe Hollywood Inc. will swamp the movie DB
   and maybe Bill Gates will buy the real Louvre [*] and web it
   but I can't see any other challengers in the near future.

   The LR situation is that there are a few so-so sites (my trivial effort
   included, (although there have been some great contributions :-) )
   that sort of overlap and sort of refer to each other in
   ad-hoc ways, but the whole is not very *web-like*.
   Now maybe that suits true sons (and DOLs daughters) of Lucas, maybe it's
   as good as one can get, but maybe something better could be done?

   I guess it doesn't matter very much, but - any (cool) thoughts?

   ( The Movie DB is distributed and mirrored. The webMuseum seems
     to be just mirrored, so I suppose it's not really distributed. )
---

Re slow access at www.cs.monash.edu.au ...
it *might be* 'cos our LAN carked it, was RS, went belly up,
became a later LAN, last night.
This was not because it is powered by Lucas, it is because the
Honours students' final reports are due on Monday - annual crash.

Lloyd

[*] btw. has anyone got a picture of that ****** RR in the Louvre?

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:38:23 -0500
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Re: Series II turn Signal stalk - different from S.II?

>In thumbing through my manuals I've noticed that the Series IIa late and
>Series
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>design that does not require a puck wheel.
>If so, how does the b****y thing work, and does anyone think it'll fit an SIIa?

My late IIA (1969) does not have the returner thingy, you have to turn it
off manually. Of course, you can leave it on...left or right...and just
tell those who honk at you you're warming up for a turn.

Chris

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 12:16:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: RoverWeb pilfered??

Michael Carradine grumbles...

>  Well, Nick, we've been snubbed, finessed, and fricasseed with only a
>  wimper.

Yak, yak, yak...  I certainly am glad that I pay for time on Delphi AND
long-distance phone charges so that I can read drivel like this *and* the
resulting flak (which will of course include *this* message). 

Who gives a flying hoot where the RoverWeb is located and who maintains it,
just as long as it is accessable and viable. Seems to me that it would
disappeared if *someone* didn't take it over. As to the LROA issue, what's
your point? Take it over yourself. 

I'm on a text-only off-line link, so I never actually get to see what the
WWW is or involves, but from what I understand, the physical location of the
data is more or less transparent to the user, or should be. The assorted web
pages are linked together, so that the user can access the greatest amout of
information with a minimal amount of searching. If that is the result of
these moves then I would say that someone has done a good job.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 725-1859                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078      -USA-   1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

Got no stinkin' Web page...

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 12:17:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: D-110 on blocks.

> Border Collies and Land Rovers go together so well it's uncanny.  Both are
> worth rescuing from poor situations.  If I had the space, 10 square miles
/

A friend of mine who raises Border Collies (but does NOT have a Land Rover)
has a Border Collie book with a picture of a few of the beasties chained up
in the back of an 88. Cute!

Cheers
Mike
 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 12:17:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Disco lights.....

> Am I alone, or is anyone else irretrievably linking this discussion to
> mirrored 
> balls hung in dance clubs and white polyester suits?

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh,heh......

Cheers
Mike

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 12:16:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Who Waves?  (Was Use/abuse etc.)

John Liu sez...

> RR and Disco's never ever wave at my SIIA.  Defender 90's wave only
> occasionally.  Defender 110's usually wave.  Other Series usually stop and
> get out.

Does that mean that you are stopped at the time?? :) I actually had some
woman in a Disco come looking for me to comment on my IIa. I was impressed.
Actually, being out in the woods, I don't see too many Rovers of any sort. I
get more waves from Jeep owners than anything else!!

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 725-1859                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078      -USA-   1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 12:16:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Stuff

Frank Twarog comments..

> the trail rides I've done this year, my series car has never gotten 
> stuck, yet every one of the Def 90s (including mine) tend to find there 
> way deeply rutted etc.  This is not an issue of over-revving etc., nor is 
/

Interesting... I would have speculated that driver inexperience woulbe be
the cause (having seen this first-hand) but you say that your own D90 is
prone to this. With you driving or someone else? Does having that monsterous
V-8 power lull one into a false sense of security? I used to ride with a
local 4WD club. On one spring-time run, we had a long, muddy hill to climb.
Everyone else, with American V-8 powered pickups and Jeeps attacked the hill
at full throttle, tires spinning, mud flying. I hit the hill in 2nd gear,
low range and walked right up. When I got to the top, someone said "Hey, you
don't spin your tires." My reply was "I don't need to." Probably more
accurately, my Ser III couldn't - but I wasn't going to admit that!

>         Well the answers to yesterday's trivia were pretty easy - the 101 
> FC (also referred to appropriately as the 6 stud) is the only Land Rover 
> whose wheels are not interchangeable! - and the only LRs with factory 
/

I guess you're not including conversions like the Cuthbertson, the Roadless
Traction Forest Rover and the Centaur...

>         Today's trivia... what is a Monteverdi? (I think I gave this one 
> away a couple of weeks ago when I wrote about them, but we'll see who 
> remembers).
/

Speaking of conversions... Monteverdi was/is a Swiss firm that does custom
conversions on Range Rovers.

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:22:38 +0900
From: yoshio@osak.ac.jp, agc03255@niftyserv.or.jp, agc03895@niftyserv.or.jp,
Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles

-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and email it back to the company.  To make
it easier for you to reply, I have put their address in the "Reply-To"
field, which means you can just use your email software to reply to this
message in order to get that address to pop-up in your "To:" field. <-----

*------------cut here-----------------------------------------------*
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Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

Name:
Internet email address:
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City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
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Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when they call you:
Catalogue format desired from below two choices:
(1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email;  see below on
which format may be best for you).
How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):   Yoshio Koseki's referral
110495-l
*------------cut here-----------------------------------------------*

{{{Note-  19-part email can be received by anyone with any computer.
Attached file format may not be for you:  it is sent as an uncompressed
525K file formatted in Microsoft World on a Mac;  if you don't use
Microsoft Word on a Mac - you will have to know how to convert into a
usable text format.  They cannot help you with this.   If in doubt, they
suggest you go with the universally acceptable 19-part email message.  You
can always manually spend a few minutes pasting the parts into one
whole.}}}

Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Yoshio Koseki and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
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most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
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Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
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titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
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Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
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I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
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them at:

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*NOTE:   to make it easier for you to reply, I have put their address in
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field.*

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They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
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They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
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sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

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ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   If you exceed 25
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Thank you.

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:14:42 -0500
Subject: Me?  Causing Problems?

In a message dated 95-11-04 06:01:18 EST, Lloyd Allison wrote:

>Subj:	land-rover-owner
>Date:	95-11-04 06:01:18 EST
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
>regards
>Lloyd

I have just today received the above message from Lloyd Allison.   I have no
idea why my address would trigger problems.   I generate very little email
and the LRO list is the ONLY list that I subscribe to.   All my email seems
to arrive just fine.  Now I'm a bit embarrassed.....anyone know what to look
for?   Thanks all.
Cordially:
Rick Crider
<rickcrider@aol.com>

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:39:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Trivia

On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Lloyd Allison wrote:

>       I thought  `....ca.us'  was Canada.us  are you telling me
>       it's califonia after all?

	For now.  They are just holding the .ca.us until Canada
	joins the USA.  By then California will have sunk into the
	sea (probably from the weight of court transcripts of various 
	OJ trials... :-)) and it will be available again... :-)

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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 11:55:07 +0000
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: RoverWeb FAQ

 Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> writes:

D>On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Benjamin Allan Smith wrote:
D>> > IMO, the more LR sites the merrier. Just make damn sure the RoverWeb
D>> > continues to thrive and expand and doesn't get absorbed into OVLR.
D>
D>	The unfortunate thing here is that I should have just let Michael
D>	have the RoverWeb to play with.  The OVLR site was going to have
D>	the new version of the FAQ anyway.  LROA-RoverWeb would have had
D>	version 2 of the FAQ, OVLR version 3.  Game finished.

 Now you're getting it, guys!

 Your condescending language aside, with the announcement of a new home for
 the RoverWeb we expected to find the entire RoverWeb moved to another site,
 nothing more or less.

 As the RoverWeb opening manifesto declares, "This is a web for and about
 Land Rovers and archives, hopefully, some of the collected wisdom of the
 LRO mailing list."  To me, the charm of the RoverWeb was the neutral
 treatment of the subject of Land Rovers and its value as a storehouse of
 information or connections to relevant links.

 If there is new material published somewhere it can be indexed in the
 RoverWeb FAQ, and a link can be established to that individual page or site.
 That new page can be anywhere and maintained by anyone, an individual or a
 club, etc.  If a good FAQ link goes to a vanity page, so be it, it might
 be compared to changing a television station from PBS to ABC/CBC/NBC/CNN.

 To move the entire FAQ out of the RoverWeb site destroys the Land Rover
 archive function leaving the RoverWeb nothing more than a collection of
 trivia and curios, and in the process shuts down the volunteer and material
 contribution process.  The Land Rover community would be better served with
 the RoverWeb remaining as a clearinghouse for Land-Rover connected material
 with the FAQ as its centerpiece, even if its version 2 or whatever, and even
 if 90%+ of the material links go to other sites.

 As Ray Harder suggested, "To have a quality site, one person would own the
 master page and solicit completed additions from other people contributing
 to the work" which certainly can be links to other sites.

                          _____
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                        Rumpole of the Bay
 cs@crl.com               [________]                               '65 IIA 88
 __________._______.____.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^======o.._______________
 ____________________________________________________________________________
 * Land-Rover Connection 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html *

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:19:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: RoverWeb FAQ

On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Michael Carradine wrote:

	<snip>

	In the interest of putting some water on this tirade of yours,
	this is the only answer you shall receive...  

	<blank space>

	Someday you may discover the benefits of private e-mail, so until 
	then I must note you again forgot to take your prozac/valium 
	mixture today.  Now, I must attend to a plough harness for the
	109, which I note rates light-years above your concerns.

	Rgds,

	Dixon

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From: GJevne@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:27:45 -0500
Subject: Discovery    ROCK-SLIDERS

>  Did you have any suggestions for the thread a few weeks back on replacing
>  the 'tween-the-wheel-arches plastic trim steps/strips on new Discos with
something
>  a bit stronger (but more practical than CCBB wings, Bob)?

Mr Smith, 

Now that we are not confused here's a answer to your question.  
Picture in you mind the black plastic trim  being removed and replaces with
rectangular tubing with  welded capped ends,  then powder coated , finally
fitting to the mounting brackets that the originals did, maintaining similar
looks yet strong enough to Hi-Lift the side of your Rover off the ground and
can also be charged with an ARB air compressor @110 PSI, great for tires and
increasing your CFM.

Thanks Greg @ Safari Gard

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:48:01 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Disco lights.....

Well, now that you mention it, there was that commercial for Range Rovers 
on a couple of years ago where they demonstrated the adjustable 
suspension to disco music.  It also came with a "Kids, don't try this at 
home" caveat.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery, gettin' down with its bad self

On 3 Nov 1995, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Am I alone, or is anyone else irretrievably linking this discussion to mirrored 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> balls hung in dance clubs and white polyester suits?
>     aj"Stayin' alive"r

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:00:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Discovery Woes

Huh, Matt?  Did your dealer really chare you to replace the defective 
alternator even though your Landie's still on warranty?  How did he 
justify that?

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery (11,500 miles)

On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Matt Neibaur wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Discovery owners:
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 30 lines)]
>                             |__|__|
>                             ooO Ooo

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:58:03 -0700
From: Lou Goldring Jr <louman@netzone.com>
Subject: Re: D90 sagging suspension 

        I drive a '94 Defender 90 (no. 324) with an ARB Bull Bar that holds
a Warn 10,000lb. winch. I also have the rear seat and some gear in back. The
Bull Bar weighs about 50 lbs more than the OEM Brush Bar, the winch weighs
135 lbs and the gear in back weighs around 100 to 150 lbs. I think this
additional weight has overworked my suspension and as a result it rides
lower that it should. I went to the dealer and I compared my 90 to one on
the lot. Mine was about 1.5 in. lower in front and .75 in. lower in the
rear. I have been thinking about installing the Old Man Emu coil springs
(751 front,758 rear) in an effort to regain my lost ride height and more
importantly my lost wheel travel. I would also install Bilstein shocks. Any
information about how these springs and shocks perform would be greatly
appreciated.
                  

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:29:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Kurt Horton <khorton@deming.mdc.com>
Subject: Erik: DISCO Tail lights

Erik,

The multicolor Disco Tail lights were std. on European Discos but for some
reason DOT or LR put the turn signals in the bumpers on North American
Discos.  However a Mr Greg Jevne maker of "Safari Gard" Products has
current stock on shelf for your vehicle.  He has a buisness that commonly
upgrades / replaces stock bumpers with much beefier and more protective
Front and Rear bumpers (without those all too easy to smash bumper turn
Signals.)  In their place he puts back in the European style lamps.  Give
him a call at (909) 698-6114 he will help.

PS  The 96 Discos will come with the multicolor tail lights.  I don't know
why the change, but the dealer will be more expensive if they have them
yet.

end
Thanks,
Kurt Horton
(khorton@deming.mdc.com)

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: Overheat light - transmission

You wrote "I performed a similar feat here in PA, USA.  I splashed so much
water that
I made a wave that went over a few lanes of traffic, completey inundating a
BMW, which made me chortle with glee.  My wife thought I was nuts, and
maybe I am, but the point of my reply is that I managed to somehow wash the
transmission over heat switch into a malfunction, as well as remove one of
the quarter panel marke lights from it's socket.  If you have a mnual
xmissino you might need to check for water in your case methinks."

Funny that you should mention the transmission "hot" light.  On our last
outing, we crossed the Verde River on a Saturday afternoon.  The water depth
was about 30" (according to Dave Brown!!  which we got James Howard to "walk"
first!  Thanks! James)  and we had no problems with the crossing.  We each
created a nice bow wave and pushed it all the way across the river.  No water
entered my Discovery and I didn't create any excess waves (at least like
those described in the most recent postings.)

Well,  early the  next day, the transmission hot light came on.  Now, I've
driven in the desert for hours on end with the outside temp well over 110
degrees and I know when the automatic transmission is HOT. On this particular
day, it couldn't have been that hot.  We had only been driving for an hour
with the outside temp at about 45 degrees and I was never even  in
low/locked.  We continued on the drive (we were 45 miles from pavement) and
the light went out.

The light made a return visit tonight.  I had been driving (pavement,
averaging 65 mph for 30 minutes) when I got on the interstate.  I pushed it
hard up the on-ramp and opened up for a few miles approaching 100 mph.  The
light came on again and I immediately slowed to a more reasonable 65.  

I was all prepared to drop the Discovery off at the dealer's tomorrow for
them to check it out.  I have no doubt that the transmission is operating
normally but.....  I thought maybe there is a filter obstructed or something.
 Maybe Mr. Lucas is alive in my Discovery.

(On another note: at least if I take it to the dealer's, they'll return it
all nice and clean... nahhhhhh.......)

Anyone else had this problem?  Tom Des Jardins.... what was the fix for the
malfunction of your overheat light?  Thanks...
Gerry
Phoenix  AZ
"Dirtiest Disco in Phoenix....Ah Ah Ah Ah Stayin Alive, Staying Alive"

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:41:57 -0800
From: cboese@co.san-bernardino.ca.us (Christopher Boese)
Subject: Re: Web Roving: Help

Rick, this performance problem doesn't surprise me at all, but it may have
more to do with the server in Australia than with you or AOL. I just tried
to get to the site myself. It's Saturday (Sunday in Oz) and I'm using a PC
on a LAN with a T1 (1.44 mbit/sec.) link to the Net. Still, I had to wait a
minute or so for the page even to start loading, and it took another minute
or more to finish, even at this speed. It's a shame, since this is one of
the most informative and graphics-rich pages about Land Rovers on the Web. I
did, however, want you (and others) to know that you're not alone in your
disappointment.

>When I typed in the address for the Australian page, (......monash,tilde,
>etc. etc.) it took an agonizing TWELVE MINUTES for it to appear.   When it
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>Rick   <webless>  Crider  KD4FXA
>Monroe  NC  USA

Christopher Boese
County of San Bernardino, California
Information Services, Information Systems Security Office

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: LR Border Collies
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 22:41:29 -0700 (MST)

< > Border Collies and Land Rovers go together so well it's uncanny.

Well, let's see... Sandy Grice has a BC named Lucas.  I have a BC not
named Lucas, but he's pretty dim.  We both lug our collies around in IIA
Land Rovers.  We both edit Land Rover newsletters, with no help from our
border collies (mine has been known to misplace a few pages).  I have a
son named Sandy...  Mr G lives in a colorful state called Virginia.  I
live in a virgin land called Colorado.  What does all this mean?  It's
almost as bad as the Lincoln-Kennedy "coincidences". 

T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                               University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills                          Denver  CO 80208  USA

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