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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:16:18 +0000
Subject:       Re: The RoverWeb has moved to a new home.

On  1 Nov 95, Dixon Kenner wrote:

I'm having problems with www.ridgecrest.ca.us as a host -- my DNS cannot 
find it.

Please can someone confirm the address is correct.....

Thanks..

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 03:16:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Delayed Sighting

Rob Denis sez..

>  I caught the tail end of a commercial during the world series, which I
> believe was for Bud Lite, but it starred a SerIIa 109? (I just got a quick
> glimpse) and a bunch of monkeys stealing beer out of a cooler on the roof
> rack. I was hoping that it would be replayed, but I haven't seen it again,
/

My Dad saw the commercial and told me about it. I haven't seen it yet...

Cheers
Mike

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From: Richard Jones <rich@apricot.mee.com>
Subject: Re: The RoverWeb has moved to a new home.
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:04:11 +0000 (GMT)

Ian Stuart writes:
> 	>  The new RoverWeb	http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/RoverWeb/
> 	I'm having problems with www.ridgecrest.ca.us as a host -- my DNS cannot 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> 	find it.
> 	Please can someone confirm the address is correct.....

The address is corrent.

The machines real name appears to be owens.ridgecrest.ca.us, but if that also
fails its IP 
address is 199.120.150.1
__ 
  _ __              Apricot Computer Limited
 ' )  )      /      3500 Parkside               Tel:   (+44) 121 717 7171
  /--' o _. /_      Birmingham Business Park    Fax:   (+44) 121 717 0123
 /  <_<_(__/ <_     BIRMINGHAM  B37 7YS
 Richard Jones      United Kingdom              Email: richardj@apricot.mee.com

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From: Stephen Thomas <THOMSE-U@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk>
Date:         2 Nov 95 11:03:15 GMT
Subject:      Australian in-jokes on the net - what next?

Come on Tony,
    It's not fair to keep us in suspense - what does RS stand for in
OZ? Over here it means just one thing, and most people I know would
know what. RS components can be seen in every high street in any
branch of Tandy's. But to what were you referring? I feel insecure
about mentioning other brand names now, just in case. But that may
just be more to do with me :)
If because I'm on digest then this question comes after the answer,
then ignore the above message and look at the lovely ASCII pic of
'Andy' attached. Thanks to Dave Bobeck for the inspiration....
Steve

   /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
  /  /-\ /---------------\ /-\  \
  |  | | |               | | |  |
  |  \-/ |               | \-/  |
  |______|_______________|______|
  /~~~~~~|               |~~~~~~\
 |o|     |[]             |     |o|
 |O/     |               |     \O|
 ||      |               |      || Stephen Thomas
 ||______|_______________|______|| 1964 IIa Diesel 'Andy'
  \_          |    |           _/  0121-452-1405
  |~\_________|_{}_|__________/~|  Thomse-u@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk
  |~-_-~|)               (|~-_-~|
  |~-_-~|                 |~-_-~|  ['Andy': except for the XCL's :)]
   ~---~                   ~---~

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: Australian in-jokes on the net - what next?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:02:33 +1030 (CST)

>     It's not fair to keep us in suspense - what does RS stand for in
> OZ? Over here it means just one thing, and most people I know would
> know what.

Steve it means pretty much one thing over here too,  and it aint Radio
Shack...

The more polite version is Ratchet Screwdriver.  The common usage sounds
similar to the first word  Rat-chet.   Should I continue  hmmmm ???
RS: A small to medium sized rodent's solid waste metabolic by-product

if it still aint clear I'd better take this off-line....

cheers 

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Why Dixon has a Saab
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 07:49:00 EST

News report on this mornings radio tells of California Highway Patrol 
stopping a Saab with a "lady" standing up through the sunroof with the wind 
in her hair and everywhere else. She was quoted as saying she liked to feel 
the wind on her skin. Dixon, does your Saab have a sunroof?

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: email address
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 07:49:00 EST

Alistair Lowe, if you read this or if anyone has Alistair's email address, 
please contact me. I need some stuff from Dave Lowe.
Thanks in advance.

Trevor Easton
for Toronto Area Rover Club
teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 08:57:22 EST
Subject: Abuse

Were we all to "abuse" (see dictionary if necessary) our 
L-Rs as badly as we abuse the English language in some of 
these posts, there wouldn't be enough of them left to 
support this list.  (I'm an engineer *and* an artist, so I 
have _my_ excuse.)

Anybuddy wanna join me in a class acshun lawsuit agenst are 
gradescool teechers for not teeching us to spell good?  I 
want to be sudenly rich enuff to abuse my Rovers like they 
deserve.

Counting on offending only those who are even more paranoid 
than me,
Hank (self-appointed defender of civilisation) ;-)

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From: Stephen Thomas <THOMSE-U@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk>
Date:         2 Nov 95 13:17:18 GMT
Subject:      Re: Australian in-jokes on the net - what next?

Awwww-geeeee,

*Now* I'm blushin.....should've guessed I suppose %)

Steve

    /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
   /  /-\ /--------------\ /-\  \
   |  | | |              | | |  |
   |  \-/ |              | \-/  |
   |______|______________|______|
   /~~~~~~|              |~~~~~~\
  |o|     |[]            |     |o|
  |O/     |              |     \O|
  ||      |              |      || Stephen Thomas
  ||______|______________|______|| 1964 IIa Diesel 'Andy'
   \_          |    |          _/  0121-452-1405
   |~\_________|_{}_|_________/~|  Thomse-u@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk
   |~-_-~|)              (|~-_-~|
   |~-_-~|                |~-_-~| ['Andy': except for the XCL's :)]
    ~---~                  ~---~

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  2 Nov 95  8:55:30 EST
Subject: For those of us with pickup roofs...

I've been racking down an odd leak in my 109. It turns out that the roof, which 
is made up of two pieces (rim and center) rivited together and sealed, seems  
to have developed a leak in the sealing material between the steel rim and 
aluminum roof panel.

A bead of RTV should do it for this problem. but I thought someone else might 
benefit from a mention of it...

WHat idiot invented a two-piece roof? Clever these British....8*)

   aj"Just say wet"r

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:13:02 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Delayed Sighting

I saw the commercial too, but only once on the World Series.  It didn't 
seem to be one of those one-off special event commercials, so I'd imagine 
it will be aired again.  Keep your eyes pealed.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 LANDROVER@delphi.com wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Rob Denis sez..
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> My Dad saw the commercial and told me about it. I haven't seen it yet...
> Cheers
> Mike

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 07:23:31 -0700 (MST)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Camel Trophy '95 Video

All:
If no money is being exchanged, I can't see that any copyright laws are 
being broken. I would be be more than happy to watch it myself on ESPN, 
but since I can't get ESPN, I can't watch it! 

Gary:
I would really like to get a copy of this video, if it is worth it. I 
don't mind making copies for other people (although I don't especially 
want to be making 25 copies, either!).

Let me know,
Rob
baileyr@cuug.ab.ca

>I taped it yesterday. If anyone can dup it I am willing to send them my copy
>.
>Gary Mitchelson    

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:40:52 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Abuse

You say "civilisation," I say "civilization."  Altogether now,

To-may-to, to-mah-to.
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Let's call the whole thing off.

Non-morphophonemic languages are such a pain to deal with.  (Red alert! 
That sentence ended in a preposition!)  Yeah, some of us have trouble 
with spelling and grammar.  Some of us can't type to save our Land 
Rovers.  Fortunately, doing well on an English exam doesn't seem to be a 
criterion for Land Rover ownership.

Later, Dude!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Were we all to "abuse" (see dictionary if necessary) our 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
> than me,
> Hank (self-appointed defender of civilisation) ;-)

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:46:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Why Dixon has a Saab

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Easton Trevor wrote:

> News report on this mornings radio tells of California Highway Patrol 
> stopping a Saab with a "lady" standing up through the sunroof with the wind 
> in her hair and everywhere else. She was quoted as saying she liked to feel 
> the wind on her skin. Dixon, does your Saab have a sunroof?

	Unfortunately not, but if I put one in I wonder if I get the
	"lady" too... :-)

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:00:00 -0500
From: Martin_Eglitis@nih.gov (Martin Eglitis)
Subject: Re: Delayed Sighting

The commercial is for Bud Light and is funny, but I've got to believe that
the driver/passenger aren't real LROs. No self-respecting LRO would lose
track of their beer.

There is another commercial I've seen a couple of times the last few months
where a couple of beautiful people drive a Land Rover into the jungle
searching for a Mayan/Aztec type city to find super tropical
fruit-flavoured candy (StarBurst? Something else?). You see the LR climbing
steep stairs to enter a temple filled with fruit falvoured candy!

        ****************************************************************
        |    Martin Eglitis                    Lab of Cell Biology     |
        |    Phone: (301) 402-1641             NIMH, Bldg. 36 Rm. 2D10 |
        |    FAX:   (301) 480-2437             36 Convent Dr  MSC 4068 |
        |    sveiks@codon.nih.gov              Bethesda, MD 20892-4068 |
        **************** Wherever you go, there you are ****************

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 08:40:54 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: FTP available for Rover images???

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: FTP available for Rover images???
Dixon (and Ben)

Is there an address where I can "anonymous ftp" the LR images? I tried the
"www.ridgecrest.ca.us" machine but after searching all over, I couldn't find
them.

Please help!

Thanks,

#=======#          ________           We make a living by what we get,
|__|__|__\___     /__/__|__\___        we make a life by what we give.
| _|  |   |_ |}   \_/-\_|__/-\_|}
"(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)                       Winston Churchill

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 08:56:49 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Discovery tail lamps.

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Discovery tail lamps.
Erik,

I had a '94 Discovery, and noticed the blank part of the tail light. Did you
notice that it has a hole in it where you could easily put in a bulb? All
you'd have to do is splice it into the turn signal wiring. Only thing is that
it'd be a red turn indicator instead of the amber color. I was going to do
that... before I had to sell it. :-( But now I have 3 Rovers! :-) But right
now, all 3 are down for repairs. :-( But parts should arrive Today for the
109. :-) And the RR is getting a new higher performance cam and valve job.
:-) And, to top it all off, I've recently received word that the parts I
ordered *in July* have left the UK and are now in transit! :-)

So life is *peachy*! ;-)

Dave  ;-)  Brown
 #=====#         #========#          -------,___           ________
 |___|__\___     |___|__|__\___      |--' |  |  \_|_      /__/__|__\___
 | _ |   |_ |}   | _ |  |   |_ |}    |  _ |--+--|_  |     \_/-\_|__/-\_|}
 "(_)""""(_)"    "(_)"""""""(_)"    ||_/_\___|__/_\_|}      (_)    (_)
                                       (_)      (_)
 1971 "88" IIa   1970 "109" IIa     1994 Discovery (Sold) '87 Range Rover
 LIC: LION B8    Historic plates     (Too hard to "draw")  rear Lock-Right

#=======#          ________           We make a living by what we get,
|__|__|__\___     /__/__|__\___        we make a life by what we give.
| _|  |   |_ |}   \_/-\_|__/-\_|}
"(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)                       Winston Churchill

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Date: 02 Nov 95 10:50:13 EST
From: James Mobley <70302.2516@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: San Bernardino Discovery!

Christopher Boese writes,

>>Actually, my Discovery's beluga black ('95, just automatic trans.) I just
broke 1000 miles this weekend, but I'm already working my way up to some
off-road trips by exploring some of the more difficult paved access roads around
Lake Arrowhead. The Discovery seems to be bored with where I've taken it so far.
I'm interested especially in finding some of the old routes into the mountains,
like the City Creek toll road, or what's left of them. If you have any
suggestions let me know (keeping in mind shiny black paint and no 'roo bars up
front.) If I find some interesting roads I'll get back to you on those too.
Thanks for writing.

Christopher,

Beluga Black eh, nope, haven't seen that one.

What's left of the City Creek toll road is highway 330. If you have John
Robinson's "The San Bernardinos" check out chapt. 16. He describes how the road,
initally a 25% grade at the top was regraded in 1915-17 and again in late '40s
to the current 7% max. I think there may be a few remainants of the old road as
cutoffs and there may be a little of it up in Fredalba, but most of it is paved
now as 330.

Clark's Grade is still open as Forest Road 1N54. Take 38 to Angelus Oaks. At the
west end of the large chain-up area just east of town turn left on 1N12
(unsigned) a well graded dirt road. When you get to the bottom of the hill take
the bridge over the Santa Anna river and in a quarter mile or so turn left on
1N09. Keep following the signs to Clark's Grade. Where 1N54 branches off to the
right from 1N09 there is a sign that warns of a locked gate ahead. If it hasn't
snowed yet, ignore it. (The Forest Service closes the area at the top of the
ridge south of Big Bear Lake for cross-country skiing in the winter and this is
when they lock the gate.) Keep heading up 1N54 and immagine doing it in a Model
T! You will reach a false summit with a fork in the road, stay right, the left
fork leads to a dead end and is lined with paint eating Whitethorn. 

This was the main road to Big Bear through most of the first half of this
century and in fact was in regular use until highway 38 was completed in 1961.
(Again Robinson's book is a great resource.) This road will not challenge your
Discovery and you won't even need low range. When you get to the (presumedley
open) gate a left takes you to Big Bear the shortest way.

The old Morman road is mostly under highway 18, but a few remains can be seen
from the momument near Crestline. It is undrivable.

If you want to really see what your Discovery can do, take Holcomb Valley road
north from Fawnskin, past the Hanna Flat campground and turn left on 3N93. This
gets hard right after you cross Holcomb Creek. Yes you can climb the steep hill
without locking diffs and yes you can drive through the rock piles without
touching the rocks with anything but tires and no it hasen't gotten worse since
I last drove it. If you are worried about the paint take along some hedge
clippers, the road is starting to get overgrown. (I got a rather extensive
collection of pinstripes when I drove it last month. They all waxed out, for the
most part, however. (If you haven't discovered Orange Empire Carwash, across the
street from Walmart in Redlands, now's the time. Wash, hand wax, Armor-all,
interior cleaning all for $45 and they do a good job.)

Another tough one is from Crab Flats campground, near Green Valley lake, to Deep
Creek, near Lake Arrowhead, on 3N34. I haven't driven this one recently, but I
don't remember any bushy sections. Be ready to take your Discovery swimming at
the end of this one.

Neither of these last two should be attempted solo if you are new to
off-roading.

For any off-highway SBNF trips the Forest Service's secret decoder map is a
must. Get it at any ranger station. (I've been told that the road #s make sense,
but no one has ever been able to explain the system.)

Are you going on any of the dealer sponsered off road trips Veterans Day
weekend? We're going to Death Valley with our dealer, Bauer Motors. The trip
sounds fun, but I got the itenerary in the mail last week and I know most of the
places they're going to lead us and none are very challenging. Of course they
get a lot of people who have never driven on a gravel road before, so they have
to strike a balance.

Staying at the Furnace Creek Inn (AAA 4 diamonds), eating catered food on the
trail, I think we'll have fun even if the trails aren't real "interesting."

Have fun with that new Discovery!

**Those aren't scratches they're desert pinstriping!**

Jim
San Bernardino, CA, USA
70302.2516@compuserve.com

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:00:45 +0000
From: RMILLER@Middlebury.edu (Raoul Miller)
Subject: Re: Defender 90 prices

According to Edmunds Price Guide on the WWW
(gopher://www.dc.enews.com:70/00/showroom/edmunds/newcars/land/landdefe.95)
the dealer cost is $25790, MSRP is $28650 and delivery charge is $625.
Hope this is helpful
        Good Luck,
        Raoul

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From: lenagham@inetmail.bachman.com
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 11:05:35 EST
Subject: Consumer Research on Range Rovers

     I received aletter yesterday from  a Michigan based company called 
     PACE (Product and Consumer Evaluations Ins). They were looking for 
     Range Rover owners in the Boston area to take part in a "study". 
     The study is intended to evaluate the general cosmetic condition of 
     vehicles to see how well various materials and components are holding 
     up in day-to-day usage. As far as I know the offer is for Range Rovers 
     only.
     
     The survey will take less than 30 minutes per vehicle and they will 
     pay me $100.
     
     Has anyone heard of this outfit? $100 for letting someone look at my 
     Rover sounds like a good deal. They promise that there is no sales 
     promotions attcahed to the offer. They are merely collecting the info 
     for the "automobile industry".
     
     They have a toll free number 1-800-783-0540 to call and make an 
     appointment. You have to call between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. (I assume 
     Detroit time). 
     
     Mike
     87 Range Rover

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  2 Nov 95 11:29:25 EST
Subject: Series II turn Signal stalk - different from S.II?

In thumbing through my manuals I've noticed that the Series IIa late and Series 
III turn-signal returner thingy (I love technical terms...) seems to be of a 
design that does not require a puck wheel. 

If so, how does the b****y thing work, and does anyone think it'll fit an SIIa?

 Tired of tendonitis... -Alan

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 11:45:14 -0800
From: "Mark E. Kraieski" <mark.kraieski@mailport.delta-air.com>
Subject: Request Comments: Hennessy LR, GA

I would like comments (good, bad or indifferent) on Hennessy Land Rover in Atlanta (actually, 
Alpharetta, GA, USA). I am interested in quality of service, honesty, reliability, customer 
support for warranty claims, etc. I may be purchasing a D90 there very shortly.

Also. There must be some LROs on the list from the Atlanta area. If so, I'd love to hear from 
you. Especially if you are one of the 2 locals who had ARBs installed.

Mark Kraieski

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:59:22 -0500
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Re: 12V sockets

James Mobley <70302.2516@compuserve.com> writes:
> When is someone going to come up with a 12 power connector that is
> less clunkly than the lighter sockets?

Providing the amperage in moderate, you can use BNC type connectors,
commonly used for sending video signals on professional video equipment.
The connecter is compact, and locks into place with a half twist.  As long
as it's wired correctly in the beginning, you can't screw up polarity.
LittleLite, the company that originated the flexible stalk light much loved
by audio engineers, uses such a connection and many sound boards have a 12V
BNC mounted.

Available in several mounting styles from Radio Shack.  Just don't screw up
and send 12VDC into the VIDEO INPUT of your $60,000 BetaCam deck. ;-}

Keep on Roverin'

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg         Purple Shark Media             Rowayton, CT
                        jeff@purpleshark.com
                                *****
Look what happens when you love someone, and they don't love you.
                                       --Warren Zevon, The Heartache
==                                                                 ==

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:04:33 GMT
From: sherrell@wilbur.etc.gandalf.ca (Steve Herrell)
Subject: RR Rear Hubs

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:07:36 -0500
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Re: Delayed Sighting

> I caught the tail end of a commercial during the world series, which I
>believe was for Bud Lite, but it starred a SerIIa 109?

This one first ran during the Superbowel.  When it came on I was ROTFL!

You'll see it periodically during sporting events that Bud Lite sponsers,
though I haven't seen much of it recently.  I guess they "revived it" for
the Series.

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       Jimmy Buffett
==                                                                 ==

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Subject: Re: FTP available for Rover images??? (fwd) 
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 09:24:14 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

In message <Pine.3.89.9511021109.M2137-0100000@emr1.emr.ca>you wrote:
  
> Is there an address where I can "anonymous ftp" the LR images? I tried the
> "www.ridgecrest.ca.us" machine but after searching all over, I couldn't find
> them.

	All of the images from the OVLR page are now at:

ftp://owens.ridgecrest.ca.us/pub/users/bens/images.

And are accessable via anonymous ftp.

	It will take a bit more effort to do that for the RoverWeb since all
of the images aren't in the same directory.

Ben

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From: KKelly6788@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:33:46 -0500
Subject: Royal Land Rover:

If anyone has a wife or girlfriend that reads Town & Country Magazine, turn
to page 147 in the November ‘95 issue.  There is a great picture of  David
Viscount Linley (the son of Princess Margaret) in his blue Series 3 on a
cliff above the blue Caribbean water.  The caption reads “Lord Linley’s
preferred transport, a Land Rover."

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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:42:38 -0500 (EST)
From: "Francis J. Twarog" <ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: trivia

Well, the answers to yesterday's trivia, as I understand are:
The LR logo should be found on the side opposite of the steering wheel - 
at least, that is how they should have left the factory.  As for the code 
names of '87 and '89 US Range Rovers, they were "Eagle" and "Osprey" 
respectively.
O.K., for today, two more easy ones (that is, if you know the answers) - 
First, every Land Rover model's wheels are interchangeable except for one 
model - which one?
Next, has the LR factory ever built a vehicle with a galvanised frame 
from new?

Frank Twarog
Burlington, VT

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:28:00 -0800
From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: Camel Trophy Video

Not to be a party pooper, but be careful not to flagrantly violate copyright 
by advertising duped copies on the net.

-Matt

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:23:59 -0800
From: don@direct.ca (donald l. macdonald)
Subject: Galvanizing

Steve and anyone else interested,

        I took all my old galvanized medal off the truck, windscreen
included, during my restoration and had it sandblasted. The local guy
changed me about $120 cash.  Then I took to EBCO, who does all sorts of
medal finishing, and had it hot dip galvanized. That cost me $96 with tax at
about $.20/pound.  The final product was ROUGH and shiney but the sun and
rain made it dull again and it looks real nice with my new paint.

        Don

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From: Paul Moruzzi <pmoruzzi@hpwarhw.an.hp.com>
Subject: Pace RR condition study?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:48:12 EST

Anybody else get a letter from PACE Product and Consumer Evaluations,
Inc, looking to study the cosmetic condition of Range Rovers in the
boston area?  It says Dear Range Rover owner,  I called them up andsaid
that I owned a Land Rover and they said it qualified.  They want me to
bring it to Peabody next weekend to evaluate its cosmetic condition. 
The bribe to do this is $100,  Think they may be supprised by my 72 88
currently in 4 colors and no interior;-)  Guess I'll have to get it
running in the next couple of days.

Anyone else get one of these??

PVM
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Date: 2 Nov 1995 10:57:21 U
From: "Guzelis.Pete" <guzelis.pete@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
Subject: RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Anyone have any experience with Locking Differentials for the Disco. I have
a'94 model and was told by the L/R mechanic that a locker is preferred to
having a winch. Experiences, comments?? 
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.com on Thu, Nov 2, 1995 1:17 AM
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
File(s): The Land Rover Owner Daily Dige

Text too big (>32K). See enclosure.

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:55:09 PST
From: asmith@BayNetworks.COM (Andrew Smith)
Subject: Yet another yet another movie sighting.

Film crew on 101 this morning with a shiny black D110 trailered with a 
film camera on the front of the trailer, at speed, followed by an escort
of 3 or 4 police cars: kind of looked like a remake of the OJ chase (and
they say the black paint doesn't show blood-stains ....). This was in San
Francisco down by the Bay near the stadium formerly known as Candlestick :-)

Watch your screens for that one ....

Andrew Smith
Palo Alto CA USA
'96 Discovery        (yes, it's back at the dealer's for yet another attempt
                       to fix the door-latches ...)

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:03:01 -0800
From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: rhino calendar

At least for me, Four Wheeler was in an plastic sleeve that contained both 
the magazine and the calendar.  The sleeve was not sealed, so if you got the 
sleeve but not the calendar it's possible it just fell out.

-Matt

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:05:02 -0500
Subject: Heed Ye Well All Who Read!!

For All of you who have not RECENTLY checked the oil level in the steering
box, DON'T  drive your LR again until you do!

As many of you may know, I'm in the middle of a frameover restoration of my
67 88" SIIa.  A couple of weeks ago, I removed the steering box and noticed
one bolt of the side plate was missing.  Opening the fill plug showed no oil
left in the steering box.
Expecting no more than worn out bearings I took it to a local shop for a
overhaul.  RESULTS: The inner column and outer races need replacing!  The
parts and labor involved in this would run nearly as much as replacing the
assembly with a new one (from Rovers North)----$800.  

NOW for the catch-22, IF you have a LHD, you would have to wait a LOONG time
for a replacement steering box assembly, they've been back-ordered since May
'95.  Luckily (if one is an eternal optimist) I have RHD and will have it in
two weeks.

Further, although the SIII inner column and steering box assembly is much
cheaper, I was told by RN that it is not an easy conversion and may not work
very well.

My Suggestion and Personal Plan:  Check the steering box oil level as often
as the engine oil.

Regards,

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD USA 21020
NADdMD@aol.com

 

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From: JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:16:00 -0500
Subject: Use/Abuse, sightings, etc...

Greetings,

At this, our one year anniversary, (me and the D-90) I would like to
reflect on a few things.

Waving-

In 8500 miles of travel, I have had exactly ONE (another D-90) Land
Rover/Range Rover owner return a wave.  Do Range Rover owners know what a
Defender is?  Do they care?

Use/abuse-

Recent discussions about the 110 on blocks brings up another point.

I spent a weekend in Wayne National Forest with a local 4X4 club.  Many
of the members were surprised to even see a Defender, let alone meet one
on the trail.  In trying to educate the crowd, I joined the group going
on the "Ironman" run.  By the end of the day, no one doubted the
capability of Land Rover Products.  When someone finally worked up the
intestinal fortitude to ask, all were amazed at the price-tag on the
Defender.

Moral....?
Don't be quick to lash out at the owner of that 110.  It has been as
close to the trail as most Landrovers around here.  (Battle scars here
can be traced to grocery carts and car doors.)

Lastly....

1.  Saw a red series Rover driving through brush fires on a late-night BP
commercial.  It was followed by a Landcruiser fording a stream (up to its
hood in water).

2.  The movie Outbreak, with Dustin Hoffman, has some old series 88's
getting vaporized by a fuel-air bomb in the beginning.

Regards,
Jim Cirbus
94 D-90  #730

No, the hood's not unlatched..... But thanks for asking.

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:29:04 -0500
From: nadyne@bccom.com
Subject: Re: San Bernardino Discovery!

Being a newbie Disco owner and off-road driver, I've been 
wondering when I would get my first opportunity to take my 
Rover off road.  Well, yesterday afternoon, I had to drive 
into New York City from my office on Long Island.  I 
enjoyed my first taste of it as there is a stretch of the 
Long Island Expressway (I 495) that is a perfect beginner 
experience!

Then, this morning coming into work, I had my chance to 
see how it handles as a "wader" - half of the roads I 
traveled this morning were flooded. 

I LOVE MY ROVER! and I wonder how many of you had the 
change to practice your off road skills on a main 
interstate road??

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:21:57 -0500
Subject: HELP PLEASE.......

All:
Suddenly,  with no prompting whatsoever,  I've found myself subscribed to the
list in DIGEST form.    Don't like it at all.   Have to do all sorts of
strange things to get to it,  not nearly as easy to pick and choose,  save,
delete, or respond to.    Anyone else had this happen?   What gives?   How do
I get back to the 'real time' list.   Please email me direct with your
response, as I may not be able to get to it in the digest.   Thanks.
Cordially:
Rick Crider
<rickcrider@aol.com>
Monroe  NC
66  Slla  109"       Hugo      .......and still for sale......
73  Slll    88"        Jesse
88  Range  Rover

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Date: 02 Nov 95 15:09:08 EST
From: Robert Dennis <73363.427@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ride height.

>> Rob, I'd be interested in your before and after ride height, or if you
don't have before, at least your "after" height. Please, if you get the
chance,
 let me know at which point you measure, and what it is. Seems like the
distance between the axle and bump stop would be a good location to measure,
but maybe difficult to measure. <<

 David,
    As soon as it stops raining here (Could be next week :( ) I will measure
the axle to stop dimensions, so that we can compare mine to those just posted.
I think mine springs may have settled a little since they were installed so it
will be interesting to compare the two sets.

 Be back soon

 Rob

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   \____===_=====_===____/      Atlanta, GA USA
   |oo   |(_)###(_)|   oo|
   |     |   ###   |     |      1972 SerIII 88
   |     | ####### |     |      1990 RangeRover
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  [_______________________]
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Send By: Rob Dennis 73363.427@Compuserve.com
 On 02-Nov-1995

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 12:16:58 PST
From: asmith@BayNetworks.COM (Andrew Smith)
Subject: Re: US Discovery Tail Lamps '95 vs '96

Erik,

> I have looked at a 96 Discovery and have noticed that it has an amber
> turn indicator section in the rear tail lamp as did the Discos we saw
> in Europe. Our 95 doesn't. We want those tail lamps on our '95!

I just saw a '95 and you're right - they look wrong! One of the many
strange cultural differences you have over here is flashing red stop-lights
as turn indicators and hazard flashers. I think amber looks much more
aesthetically pleasing on any colour scheme (except perhaps Red). Of course
things look even better with yellow rear number plates ..... :-)

Andrew Smith
Palo Alto CA USA

'60 Healey 3000 Mk.I      | shiny black with *red* flashers
'96 Discovery             | shiny black with *amber* flashers

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:33:00 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: carbs, cams and distributor for the (older) v8

Hello, dear List:

I got a few replies regarding my Stromberg/Solex induction on a 3.5 v8.

In summary, 70% say SU=Solex > Holley for off-road, <= Holley for street.
30% say Holley/Webers are better, but $$, esp. Webers.
Most agree that EFI is the best.
(When did they switch to EFI on US Rangies?)

I am still unsure what to do, as Craddocks wanted L76 for the 2 Solex kits 8o
and I have an off-road prepped Holley350 and a pair of 45DCOE Webers in my
posession.  Dunno yet.

Also, nobody commented about an aftermarket cam vs. stock (Dr. Hardcastle
approved a cam swap).
And, Mallory makes a distributor (dual points  or optical pick-up, w/wo vac.),
any 1st-hand experience?  I like the Lucas for that external point adjustment
thingy.

C'mon people, tell me what you know!  I got more replies from the british
car list last time, and there are WAY more v8's in LR than in MGs and TVRs
out there!

Jan

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Date: 02 Nov 95 16:33:39 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Range Rover Power Steering

>I have a slow leak in the power steering box on my '89 RR.  Some sources tell
>me that the box can be rebuilt and others have said that it must be replaced.

On pre-92 RR it's just another 'feature' for the PS-box to start "leaking",
when the climate gets cold and damp, and miraculously becoming dry again come
springtime (a box for all seasons %-)  )  As long as the steering doesn't
actually drip and dribble and is just plain 'wet' or has wet patches, don't
worry about it.
Rebuild: *Don't*.  I have yet to meet a RR owner who 'rebuilt' his steering
box and didn't screw it up worse than it was before. If you replace it, get
a new type box, not the same old-type S**t. The new ones (which supposedly
don't ever leak) are painted green, as opposed to black on the old ones. I
*think* the new good ones are (ta-daaa!) US-made - possibly Westinghouse
(do they make PS?)

>Any tips on the best PS fluid to use?  or is any Dextron II as god as the
>next?

Plain vanilla ATF is best. (IMHO, of course...)

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe>

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Date: 02 Nov 95 16:33:32 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: one curiosity ?

>I have a Land Rover 88" of the 1985. This is my first and only one car.
>She has some particulars: the front is of the 88" but the back is of the 90".
>The stop lamp on the top and the indicators light bottom. <...snip...>
...
>The engine is different from another of mine friend 88" (1979??)
...
>P.S.I forget that the front brake are of the 109" 

Series breakfast and the arse of a 90... 109 drum brakes... Doesn't that
ring a bell, anyone?
Ok, look underneath again and tell me if you see leaf springs. Yes?
And all this on a 1985 model? Then we're looking at a spanish-built
SANTANA.  (YRMV - your Rovers may vary)

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:20:07 -0800
From: russ burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Ride height.

I installed ARB  heavy duty springs on my RR and the height is 3 inchs higher 
than my friends stock 90 RR. My wife is not very impressed.
The ride is fine, it seems she has a hard time jumping in and out or the beast.

Russ Burns
91 RR
94 D-90

At 03:09 PM 11/2/95 EST, Robert Dennis wrote:
>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>>> Rob, I'd be interested in your before and after ride height, or if you
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 41 lines)]
>Send By: Rob Dennis 73363.427@Compuserve.com
> On 02-Nov-1995

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:54:29 -0800
From: Ted VanDecar <vandecar@washington.nwlink.com>
Subject: Texas LR Clubs Outings? 

My son, an Air Force pilot stationed in Del Rio, Texas, is a 
new LR owner.   Anyone in the Hill country, San Antonio, Del 
Rio, Austin interested in outings?  He would like to contact 
any LR clubs in Texas.  He doesn't have net access, so I will 
forward information, or one can contact him directly:

         Chris Van Decar    '94 D90 "Slo-Mo VI"
         111 Garden Crest
         Del Rio, Texas  78840
                 phone 210-774-2316

Thanks and warm regards,

Ted Van Decar

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:56:44 EST
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: Haynes SII/III FS

this is mainly for US lro.

I have a new Haynes SII/III manual (unopened :) - $22 (my cost).

Also, the 90/110 diesel Haynes - same price, or whatcha got in yer garage?

And ... any interest in a Rover 8 to Series adaptor kit ?  I saw an ad
asking L100.   Sounds like a better conversion than plopping in a F*rd
(trolling, trolling ...)

Jan

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:04:45 -0500
Subject: Back on Track......

Me again.......
After finding myself suddenly 'unsubscribed' to the regular list.....and
'subscribed' to the digest version,  I may be back on track.   I wrote the
Major and reversed everything....and it seems to be working now.   Please
disregard my earlier posting requesting help on this.    .........Still don't
know what happened........
Rick Crider
<rickcrider@aol.com>
66  Slla   109"    Hugo       ............for sale..............
73  Slll     88"    Jesse
88  Range  Rover

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From: morison@alumni.caltech.edu (Dark Dream Mists)
Subject: Land Rover Magazine
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:34:09 -0800 (PST)

 Would someone post the address for Land Rover Magazine.

 Thanks-

 -Janine
 morison@alumni.cco.caltech.edu

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From: DRead813@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:34:27 -0500
Subject: Land Rover bit maps

Does any one have a .bmp file of the Rover name plate or of an S-II?

If so, could you e-mail me a copy?

Please send to dread813@aol.com

Thanks

David Read
Ann Arbo, MI

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:07:55 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: D-110 on blocks.

I too was distressed to hear of the D-110 mistreated in such a fashion.  One 
of the recurring themes on one of the other lists that I subscribe to (the 
Border Collie digest, BC-L@cornell.edu) is the "rescue" of ill-treated dogs 
or ones that are cooped up and cannot get enough mental/physical activity.  
If you know border collies, you know they are happiest when they are 
working/playing hard...just like Land Rovers.  Maybe we should go "rescue" 
this D-110 or similar ones that aren't being used to their fullest 
potential.  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:37:06 PST
Subject: Re: 	Misc.

- The D90 availability has gotten bad overnight. Automaster had five left at 
beginning of week - now none. Metro West has one left (my white demo). We even 
sold the one which will be used in the New England Auto Show - the new owner 
can't get it until after show over! Yeow! Our dealership (2nd largest in U.S.) 
can't get *ANY* units from LRNA - `cause there ain't none!

- After the (approx) 500 aluminum hardtops are shipped - then approx. 100 more 
ragtops. Then no more... Ever? 1997? 1998? There are fresh drawings of the 
CB40 variants in this month's AUTOMOBILE magazine. Interesting article on BMW 
vs. LAND ROVER marketing strategies. One thing's for sure. Any redone Defender 
90 w/airbags, OBD2 motor, impact beams, etc. etc. *WON'T* be getting any 
cheaper... All the great *bargains* in used D90s I keep reading about probably 
won't be around very long - or else their owners will wake up and make a 
reality check. Get to `em before they wake up!

- The amber turnsignal in the rear of `96 DISCO was an add to the standard 
equipment list for `96 MY. 

- The base price for a ragtop D90 is 30575 including freight.  The question 
now becomes one of availability! Don't forget that the tariff ruling earlier 
in the year changed the basic equipment and current D90s come with the full 
Bestop and rear cage/seat. There is no *holdback* or dealer incentive for 
D90s! We can't even get `em from other dealers on a swap basis! Not much need 
for Land Rover to incent dealers to move product which doesn't exist!

My advice is to anyone who can locate a *stash* of unsold D90s at close to 
invoice - buy them all and sell them! I hope to heck that D90 comes back in 
`97 or `98! It's lonely without it around at work. There will be two chalked 
silhouettes next year - the Classic RR and the D90! Que bummer!

cheerz
Jim - Blood type: LMA

`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: cams and dizzys
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:12:04 +1030 (CST)

> Also, nobody commented about an aftermarket cam vs. stock (Dr. Hardcastle
> approved a cam swap).

When I get my (financial) act together the new cam for my 3.5 will be
aftermarket.  If the rover specs are correct the factory cam has fairly
agressive timing but little lift.  (the same timing but more lift in an
aftermarket cam is ~" 3/4 race")  I'm toying with a more mild timing but more
lift   yet to make a final decision though.

> And, Mallory makes a distributor (dual points  or optical pick-up, w/wo
vac.), any 1st-hand experience?  I like the Lucas for that external point
adjustment thingy. 

Whilst Hardcastle mentions the mallory none of the performance places I've
been to have any listing for tyhe rover v8's.  This may be an oz thing. :-)
there are a number of places here selling a modified GM HEI dissy.  Would be
great in the US as lots of parts, but I dont think they were ever used on a
local OZ car so all parts have to come through performance importers, kinda
puts me off a bit....

cheers
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: CpaulP@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:46:40 -0500
Subject: Re: D-90 ECU Unit

Considering re-locating the ECU unit on my '95 Defender 90 to a position
under the dashboard.  Have heard that it is preferable to move for two
reasons:  1) More protection from water damage under the dash and 2) Can
store more and heavier objects under the seat (i.e. Snatch Block; shackles
etc). Does anyone have any thoughts on this? How difficult is it to re-locate
the unit? Any comments would be appreciated.

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 00:17:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 12V Plugs/sockets/etc.

A good mail-order source for all kinds of electrical/electronic doo-dads
in the States is MCM Electronics. Phone # 800-543-4330

Cheers
Mike
 

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:35:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Delayed Sighting

"Superbowel," Jeff???  Not a football fan, eh?

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> > I caught the tail end of a commercial during the world series, which I
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
>                                                        Jimmy Buffett
> ==                                                                 ==

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:36:57 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Royal Land Rover:

Not all that surprizing really since Land Rover has all four English
royal warrants.

Cheers!
John

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 KKelly6788@aol.com wrote:

>
> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>
> If anyone has a wife or girlfriend that reads Town & Country Magazine, tu=
rn
> to page 147 in the November =9195 issue.  There is a great picture of  Da=
vid
> Viscount Linley (the son of Princess Margaret) in his blue Series 3 on a
> cliff above the blue Caribbean water.  The caption reads =93Lord Linley=
=92s
> preferred transport, a Land Rover."
>

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From: GJevne@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:52:29 -0500
Subject: An Idea for the DEF-90 Calender 

    To lro-digest:  I own a 76 two door Range Rover and run a company called
SAFARI GARD we manufacture Rover necssities (racks, bumpers, diff gards & so
on) anyway I was at the S.E.M.A. show last week just happen to grab a few
DEFENDER 90 CALENDARS, no folds no bends I was very happy.
   Im in process of getting more, how many? good question!
                      
                        E-mail me or call: (909) 698-6114  Greg Jevne

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:49:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: Use/Abuse, sightings, etc...

I don't know where you live, Jim, but I have had almost every D90 driver 
wave at me, maybe 1 in 10 Discovery drivers, and 2 out of maybe 100 Range 
Rover drivers wave.  ALL Series owners wave.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Greetings,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 49 lines)]
> Jim Cirbus
> 94 D-90  #730
> No, the hood's not unlatched..... But thanks for asking.

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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:54:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: San Bernardino Discovery!

No Interstate highway experience, but during the HMS Defiant's maiden 
voyage this summer I went about two miles on an unpaved stretch of US 191 
between Blanding and Moab, Utah.  The Defiant's first off-road 
experience.  I still tingle from the memory.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 nadyne@bccom.com wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Being a newbie Disco owner and off-road driver, I've been 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 20 lines)]
> change to practice your off road skills on a main 
> interstate road??

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 22:28:10 -0800
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Who Waves?  (Was Use/abuse etc.)

RR and Disco's never ever wave at my SIIA.  Defender 90's wave only
occasionally.  Defender 110's usually wave.  Other Series usually stop and
get out.

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