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1 | sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM | 21 | Look worse than a scratch to me!! |
2 | "S.W.Brierley" [S.W.Brie | 33 | SWAP:88" Hard top for Soft Top. |
3 | William Caloccia [calocc | 36 | [not specified] |
4 | sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM | 28 | Fog generator |
5 | dcrow@bev.net (David Cro | 37 | Fog lamps and winches |
6 | azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo | 24 | Skinny Tiers |
7 | Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs. | 16 | BMW |
8 | Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr | 19 | Re: This guy hates Land Rover! |
9 | "Bobeck, David R." [dbob | 30 | Happy ending... or is it beginning? |
10 | "Wharton, Skip" [wharton | 23 | Re-Emerging Patterns |
11 | Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A | 17 | Re: Happy ending... or is it beginning? |
12 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 42 | Re: Re-Emerging Patterns |
13 | LTC Larry Smith [smithla | 23 | Re: Series lll Hand Throttle |
14 | "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove | 12 | Range Rovers |
15 | "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove | 15 | Discovery Steel wheels |
16 | ScottFugate_Group8@ctdvn | 27 | Re: Is a Pattern Emerging |
17 | asmith@BayNetworks.COM ( | 24 | Re: Re-Re-Emerging Patterns |
18 | "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du | 40 | Re: LROA web page incorrect |
19 | PZavaletta@aol.com | 22 | Range Rover Trailer Wiring Harness |
20 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 36 | Re: Discovery Steel wheels |
21 | John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv | 14 | Re: Range Rovers |
22 | PZavaletta@aol.com | 30 | Re: 1993-1994 Range Rover |
23 | PZavaletta@aol.com | 14 | Rally TShirt Info please |
24 | Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A | 49 | Re: Surplus Sales - 800# |
25 | [Chris_Browne@us014-bost | 40 | DISCO WHEELS |
26 | rnewell@dircon.co.uk (Ru | 8 | Ride height of SIII |
27 | "Wharton, Skip" [wharton | 25 | OK - you got me - it's Friday |
28 | TONY YATES [tonyy@waalp | 32 | Re: Discovery Steel wheels |
29 | "Wharton, Skip" [wharton | 23 | Perpetuation of the Species |
30 | "Steven Swiger (LIS)" [s | 34 | Towing Capacity |
31 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 29 | Re: Towing Capacity |
32 | Thouge@aol.com | 24 | Rover Rally & ESPN2 |
33 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 33 | Re: Towing Capacity |
34 | "John Y. Liu" [johnliu@e | 13 | Much New Stock At British Pacific |
35 | maddeng@Apple.com (gary | 16 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
36 | jjbpears@ix.netcom.com ( | 15 | Boyer Bransden Inductive Ignition |
37 | David Place [dplace@SIRN | 10 | Re: Series lll Hand Throttle |
38 | jhoward@argus.lowell.edu | 11 | Ace Ventura II |
From: sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 09:26:55 GMT Subject: Look worse than a scratch to me!! LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR*LR ____ =A6 _____/=A6__=A6=A6 Roy Wassili,<wassili@amc.uva.nl> =A6 /(-8=A6 \ =A6 Avalon Green '95 Dicovery, ____=A6_/[]__=A6__\___=A6# scarved for live =A6] __=3D =A6 =A6 __ =A6# [=A6_/ \_=A6 ___=A6_/ \_=A6] ( o ) ( o ) How hard did you hit the fence? Did you manage to walk away from the accident? Is this the state it was in after the fire brigade cut you out? Hope you recover from your injuries soon! Steve (it's difficult to type with you tongue this far into your cheek) Reddock ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:30:46 +0100 From: "S.W.Brierley" <S.W.Brierley@dl.ac.uk> Subject: SWAP:88" Hard top for Soft Top. Hi, thanks for reading, I am looking into the possibility of anyone swapping a 88" Hard top for a 88" soft top and truck cab. I am only getting an idea if anyone is interested, it aint a definate at the moment. My hard top is in very good condition and has the following extras: Tilt/Removable sunroof (a la 90) ( doesn't leak) Full lining on both roof and sides (car style lining-really smart) Sliding rear windows (could do with new channelling). Interior light (WOW) Rear Spotlight (55W). It is currently painted white (90/110 Style), and is good condition, i want to see if anyone would be interested in swapping this for a good condition truck cab (any colour) and a tidy blue or grey tilt with all ancilaries (colour important as it is going on a RED LandRover). I wish to fit a Military style roll bar so want to fit a tilt over the top. Anyone who may be interested in discussing the details, feel free to mail me. Like i said earlier, it isn't definate, the interested parties would have to be willing to travel this way to do the trade (Warrington, Cheshire) Hope to hear from someone soon, byeeeeeeee. Stu. swb@xserv1.dl.ac.uk EMMA- 3.5 V8 SWB Ser III, she may not be reliable, but hell, she's got character all right!!!!. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: On the Road Again. Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 06:45:34 -0400 From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com> That's right, it is time for another adventure, this timey by Planes, trains, Range Rovers, and maybe a hack or two. As of this day, I'll no longer work for Stratus. I can be reached via e-mail at caloccia@senie.com and later November at caloccia@openmarket.com With regards to a non-Stratus host for the mailing list server, works are in progress to re-home the list at another site. As that site will be re-locating in two weeks, we plan to bring the list up there afterwards, I hope we'll have it in service there before Turkey Day. I'll be disconnected for a couple weeks, and during that period Lloyd Allison will be keeping an eye on Major Domo. As before, mail should be sent to Majordomo-Owner@land-rover.team.net Also I'll note that Lloyd has taken responsibility for watching over the au-lro list, the regional list serving Austrailia and New Zealand. (Any interesed parties are still eligible to volunteer to work with Majordomo managing the uk-lro, eu-lro, za-lro or rro lists.) See my web page (schedule) for itinerary. Cheers, --bill caloccia@senie.com http://www.senie.com/billc/ R 1 3 2wd H "Land Rover's first, because +--|--| o | Land Rovers last." 2 4 4wd L '63 SIIa 88" - '72 Range Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 10:36:36 GMT Subject: Fog generator I don't have much of a problem with fog any more. I assumed that it was unique to lightweight as the heater doesn't have an external intake. One of the POs of the thing replaced the drivers windscreen with normal plate glass! When I saw this I decided a replacement was in order. I decided on a heated one because I get pissed off with having to drive with a squeegie in one had if it is cold or wet. It didn't work at all well at first. I checked the wires and it had about 8V across the element. I improved this slightly and it will now keep the screen clear in all the weather we have had this year. It still doesn't have the wellie to clear a fogged screen quickly. but until I rewire it it doesn't have 12V across it. I suspect it will be even better with 12V. One word of warning, I use the heater element a lot and I have it switched by the ignition as well as a dash switch. Sounds obvious, but the number of times I leave it on is untrue. The rewire/repaint has been delayed due to my motor bike accident, should be starting soon. Watch this space for more horror SPOTs. Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 08:10:10 +0600 From: dcrow@bev.net (David Crow) Subject: Fog lamps and winches Hello All! I know this is strange for a Land Rover owner to be talking about here, but if there was ever a group of vehicle owners that were creative and skillful in their ability to solve problems, well where else would you turn? My father-in-law is restoring a 1950 Studebaker and needs to obtain two (2) GE/Mazda 4012-A (for Amber glass) bulbs to make his fog lights operable. The rub is this: I have already talked directly to GE to see if the bulbs are still available (they're not) and none of the local auto parts stores carry it because it is a 6-volt bulb! I figured I'd check this merry band of travelers before I call the local junkyards and get a bunch of stupid replies. If anyone out there can help, please respond direct to me. Many thanks! Next, my 1971 SIIA has an old Belleview 6000# winch on the front. When I first made it operable in 1989, I called Warn, as they had bought out Belleview. The fellow I talked to said Warn purchased the 6000 pounder and called it their M6000. Then for the fun of it, they bench-tested the critter and found it was good for 8000#, so they re-named it the M8000! He was good enough to send me a copy of the parts manual and I think an owners manual, too. If anyone would like a copy of the parts manual/parts list, e-mail me with an address, and I'll snail-mail you a copy. And, yes, it is true, this winch is manual un-spool and power winching up. I do need to get new insulated bushings and to figure out how to tighten the power feed stud on the motor case - I may just bite the bullet and have a motor shop look at it; otherwise the winch is fine. Sorry about the rambling. Have a good weekend! David Crow 1971 88" SIIA & 1988 Range Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Skinny Tiers Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:26:47 UNDEFINED >I had wondered why the British tend to use, by US standards, such skinny tires.>My fellow Compuserver Robert Dennis wrote: >>>I am a firm believer that thinner tires work much better than fat ones >especially in the mud ... it allows the tire to drop through the muck to more [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)] >"chevron" tires up to its axles in goo that seemed firm when we walked on it >prior to driving on it. (Took a backhoe to get that one out.) Yep. Here, most Landrovers are used by the likes of (hhhkk, ppttt) farmers. They use em on old tracks where there IS hardcore eventually, under the mud. So the tyres are designe d to cut. Lookas teh shoulder profile on the standards 6.5 Avons. Its alsmost circular............Floater tyres just spin on the surface and dont get enough pressure to teh hardcore to move the vehicle. Across the pond, where they are more loikely to be used on bigger onpen trackless spaces, the likelihood is that flaoters would be much more use. All sinkers would do is bog you to the axles. ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:09:37 +1000 (EST) From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> Subject: BMW I talked to a L-R dealer who says that the L-R UK people that he has talked to [*] are very happy with BMW giving them money for projects. Things were always very tight before the take-over. The planned BMW 4x4 is apparently not a badged L-R. btw. I have just seen the Unimog 6x6 spec's - eek! Lloyd [*] what is called "heresay". ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: This guy hates Land Rover! Well, I'll tell you what. I am impressed. This guy really knows his shit. Damned junky, leaky, Land Rovers. Bah Humbug. Geeshhh. I can't believe anyone would buy one of those overpriced SUV's. My good friend bought a 4.0 SE this summer for pretty close to list price and it was a totl piece of junk!! After a month of seeing large pools of leaking oil on his garage floor and four trips to the dealer for this problem the dealer said that they were unable to fix it and wanted to get him anohter one. Now he has a Suburban 4x4 and it has more room, more power, and has a sparkling reliability record ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 10:39:58 EST From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org> Subject: Happy ending... or is it beginning? Well after all my on-line whining about my frame, I found one for sale that was going to cost the same as repairing the old one. So I went to see it last night and am now the happy owner of an almost perfect swb frame. Also included was the winch I mentioned earlier, its an old Warn 8000, and the guy aon th ephone from warn called it "an old Bellview". It is in need of new cable and hooks, and a proper mounting set up. Also Warn offers a remote setup, instead of the old in cab and under hood controls. No replacement parts though. $675 took the lot, and i must say I am now quite happy. Hooray. BTW, the items came from Gary Landis in Ellicot City MD, who although he's a bit quirky, does have some good vehicles for sale as well as the occasional spare part. Other people here on the net have had bad experiences hiring him to do major work, so be careful, but he does know his Rovers. Dr. Newman, if you're reading this, how's the Turner doing? Dave 72 Series III "Sure Mom, the Rover's doing great" dbobeck@ushmm.org ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 10:47:06 EST From: "Wharton, Skip" <wharton@mail.scra.org> Subject: Re-Emerging Patterns TeriAnn writes: >The director of Land Rover Gmbh announced a new series of Land Rovers >percision engineered for different markets. The 3 series ... Next up the >scale is the five series... For those towing trailers there is the 7 >series... for those who tow yaughts, we have the 8 series... >Four wheel drive optional at extra cost on special orders. TeriAnn, I was distressed enough to be reading the Beemer marketing philosophy (all they need to do is stick on an "i" on any of the above and the yuppies will go crazy...), but PLEASE tell me I'm not reading that last line like I think I am. This doesn't mean that they are going to push two wheel drives like Jeep did w/ the Cherokee are they???? Skip Wharton wharton@scra.org From the Holy City of Charleston, SC, USA Series IIa 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> Date: 27 Oct 95 11:45:32 EDT Subject: Re: Happy ending... or is it beginning? On the cable and hooks: You can get 5/16" cable, thimbles, clips and hooks from Surplus Center of Nebraska on the cheap. I just bought a new 50' cable for mine for .34/foot for the cable. The whole thing, with thimble, hook and 2 clips came to 28 bucks shipped. Seemed like a helluva deal to me... Call the 800 Directory Assistance for their # - it's listed. Alan ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 09:14:22 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> Subject: Re: Re-Emerging Patterns In message <199510271448.JAA10619@butler.uk.stratus.com> "Wharton, Skip" writes: ; TeriAnn writes: > >The director of Land Rover Gmbh announced a new series of Land Rovers ; >percision engineered for different markets. The 3 series ... Next up the > >scale is the five series... For those towing trailers there is the 7 ; >series... for those who tow yaughts, we have the 8 series... > >scale is the five series... For those towing trailers there is the 7 ; >Four wheel drive optional at extra cost on special orders. > >scale is the five series... For those towing trailers there is the 7 ; > >scale is the five series... For those towing trailers there is the 7 ; TeriAnn, I was distressed enough to be reading the Beemer marketing > philosophy ; (all they need to do is stick on an "i" on any of the above and the yuppies > philosophy ; will go crazy...), but PLEASE tell me I'm not reading that last line like I > philosophy ; think I am. This doesn't mean that they are going to push two wheel drives > philosophy ; like Jeep did w/ the Cherokee are they???? > philosophy ; I had NO idea so many people would be taking this posting of mine seriously IT WAS A SPOOF!! It was an attempt at humor, not a real preannuncement of products or a guess at future Land Rover directions I just thought the spoof was too obvious to warent a string of smiley faces But I thought Land Rover Gmbh had a certain ring to it. ;*) TeriAnn Geeeeee ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 12:41:24 EDT (1641Z) From: LTC Larry Smith <smithla@arngrc-emh2.army.mil> Subject: Re: Series lll Hand Throttle Joseph, We have an Australian Exchange Officer here at Fort Lee who helps me out now and again with my Series III. He wondered where the hand throttle was on my petrol version. We did some checking, and found the throttles were on diesel versions only. Prior to Officer Candidate School, he served in several logistics units. During driver training, they were taught to use the throttle in cross country operations. Reason given - no seat belts. You therefore needed both feet firmly on the floor to brace yourself to keep from being tossed out of the vehicle. The throttle allowed both feet on the floor and both hands on the wheel. As an aside, he used to love it when the driver would pull up along side a policeman at traffic lights. As the throttle was/is on the passenger side, he could then race the engine, incurring the wrath of the policeman at the expense of the poor driver. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 16:51:58 UT From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com> Subject: Range Rovers All, Can anyone tell me when RR classics here in the states had the air suspension put on them in County trim. I know they put air suspension on the LWB, but I remember reading somewhere that they did the same with the "short" RR. Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 16:57:46 UT From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com> Subject: Discovery Steel wheels I read the thread about Disco steel wheels. I got mine from Arrow services for my SIII. I beleive they cost me 20 pounds ea. I think I got mine here and through customs !!! Yes don't forget those guys for abput $250 total. As people who have seen Beryl will testify, they certainly make all the difference, better than white spokes. I have mine fitted with 265/75, I know they are oversized, but provide GREAT traction when off road. I never have to get on full lock that they become a problem Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ScottFugate_Group8@ctdvns1.ctd.ornl.gov Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 13:09:14 EDT Subject: Re: Is a Pattern Emerging Gang, FWIW, early this Summer the Greenville, South Carolina newspaper ran a story in its business section about SUVs in general and BMW 's lack of presence in that market in particular. (BMW's NA plant is between Greenville and Spartanburg, SC.) The point of the article was that BMW could not afford to stay out of that niche, and would probably build a SUV in the SC plant before long. A question bantered about in the piece was whether the vehicle would be badged as a BMW or a Land Rover. The writer of the article was obviously not up to speed on Land Rover, and didn't even mention the Odin project, I seem to recall. If I was a betting man, I'd bet we will see the Odin-derived vehicle roll off the lines in South Carolina before the year 2000. Lets just hope the interloper will not besmirch the name of our beloved machines. Scott Fugate 1970 IIA 88 1989 RR BT ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 10:58:51 PDT From: asmith@BayNetworks.COM (Andrew Smith) Subject: Re: Re-Re-Emerging Patterns So sad - I would have thought it would be just the Land-Cruiser and Miata mailing lists that would need :-) faces on their postings. I thought it was a pre- qualification requirement before being allowed to subscribe to the british-cars or land-rover lists that you had watched the complete set of Fawlty Towers and Python episodes at least twice through. Maybe we should alter the mail exploder so that it automatically puts a "humour" warning at the head of every broadcast message before we get sued! Andrew Smith Palo Alto CA USA '60 Healey 3000 Mk.I (daily driver until the Disco gets out of the shop ...) '96 Discovery > I had NO idea so many people would be taking this posting of mine seriously > IT WAS A SPOOF!! [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)] > TeriAnn > Geeeeee ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu> Subject: Re: LROA web page incorrect Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Mad Uncle Roger writes: It has come to my attention that a couple of things posted on the web page that I've been working on for LROA are incorrect, and might possibly be offensive. Specifically, the page takes credit (on behalf of LROA) for organizing (partially) the national rally that is really done by the Solihull Society. I had no intention of stealing credit from the SS; I just copied stuff from old papers I had laying about. (I think there was at one point the *intention* of sponsoring the rally.) In any case, I apologize to all the members of SS, especially those who work so hard to put on the rally. ... I hope I didn't screw things up betwixt LROA & SS.... Since I am probably the only person of Solihull Society's informal "executive" who has seen the web page or your apology, I suppose it behooves me to assuage your fears. As far as I am concerned, no offense taken and no harm done! Heck, we're the guys who drive those rhino-resistant vehicles, so we shouldn't be thin skinned ourselves. And to really set the record straight, please don't think that Solihull Society has single-handedly sponsored the past several rallies. We could not have pulled it off without the very generous co-sponsorship and tangible support of Rovers North, British Pacific, LRNA and its Colorado dealerships, and several very dedicated and hard-working individuals. (And I hope I have not in turn slighted anybody by giving insufficient credit where due!) T. F. Mills (Solihull Society newsletter editor) tomills@du.edu University of Denver Library http://www.du.edu/~tomills Denver CO 80208 USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: PZavaletta@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:19:03 -0400 Subject: Range Rover Trailer Wiring Harness Hello I just ordered from Rovers North the Trailer Hitch Kit (RRNA0925) and the Trailer Wiring Harness (PRC4143) for my '95 County Classic. I plan on installing both the hitch and harness myself - but would much appreciate any tips, pointers, things to look out for, do's and don'ts from anyone that has experience with these items. Please reply to the list or via email. Thanks in advance, Peter M. Zavaletta '95 Range Rover County Classic (aka 'Winston' Telephone: (210) 546-5567 email: PZavaletta@aol.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 11:21:10 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> Subject: Re: Discovery Steel wheels In message <199510271702.MAA10822@butler.uk.stratus.com> "Mark Talbot" writes: >; > I read the thread about Disco steel wheels. I got mine from Arrow services > for my SIII. I beleive they cost me 20 pounds ea. I think I got mine here and ; > through customs !!! Yes don't forget those guys for abput $250 total. ; > As people who have seen Beryl will testify, they certainly make all the ; difference, better than white spokes. I have mine fitted with 265/75, I know > they are oversized, but provide GREAT traction when off road. I never have to ; I got mine from a local Rand Rover dealer. The steel wheel is the same as what comes standard on the US spec D90 that no one sells because they can get an extra US$1000 for the alloys. When one accidently gets shipped with standard steel wheels the dealer removes them and replaces them with the alloys. Dealer list for the steel wheels is US$183 ea. I purchased a set of takeoffs for US$ 85 each ($340 for a set of 4) No shipping, customs or agent fees. I too have 265/75 (BF Goodrich Mud Terrain) tyres on my land Rover (109). This size seems to work very well on a 109. The Mud Terrains grip extreamly well and the extra height helps for clearence and highway speeds. They are a bit noisier than anything I have had on before though. however this size tyre is too big for the Discoverys. They tuck those tyres up inside the body under heavy articulation and need to be very careful not to have too big a tyre They seem to be extreamly capable off road cars as long as they are not in situations where they need a lot of ground clearence to get over objects. TeriAnn ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org> Subject: Re: Range Rovers On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Mark Talbot wrote: > Can anyone tell me when RR classics here in the states had the air suspension > put on them in County trim. I know they put air suspension on the LWB, but I > remember reading somewhere that they did the same with the "short" RR. The 100 inch wheelbase version was available in the US with the Air Suspension for a while in 1994, then disappeared for a while, reappearing as the "Classic" this year. ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: PZavaletta@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:57:19 -0400 Subject: Re: 1993-1994 Range Rover To the gentleman from PA asking about a '93 or '94 LWB, I am not sure whether it was the '94 or the '95 LWB (now discontinued) that incorporated the fascia and dash of the '95 County Classic (100" WB), which to a great extent is borrowed from the Discovery. To many the redesigned dash is superior to the design that it replaed. I love my Classic. With over 7700 miles, I have had absolutely no problems whatsoever, there isn't a single squeak or rattle in the car and it performs flawlessly on and off-road. The only caveat is that the engine took about 4,000 - 5,000 miles to break-in and is now very, very responsive and quick. I haven't missed the extra rear-seat leg room of the LWB and I certainly didn't miss the price difference between a new '95 LWB and a new '95 Classic ($@52k vs. @42k). Also, the Classics will no longer be made so if you can get one, it truly is and will be a 'Classic.' I would be happy to answer any additional questions or comments you might have Peter M. Zavaletta '95 Alpine White Range Rover County Classic Telephone: 210 546 5567 email: PZavaletta@aol.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: PZavaletta@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:57:14 -0400 Subject: Rally TShirt Info please To the person that posted ordering information for left-over rally T-shirts, could you please repost ordering information and price? Thanks, Peter Zavaletta Telephone: 210 546 5567 email: PZavaletta@aol.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> Date: 27 Oct 95 15:19:48 EDT Subject: Re: Surplus Sales - 800# I realize this is primarily of interest to the US/Canada types - my apologies to Reality.....(TM) Re: Surplus Sales: >Couldn't find it. Do you think you could try to get it? The number is 800-488-3407, or 402-474-4055. FAX: 402-474-5198 As an amusing aside, this outfit has MilSurplus PTO winches, 8000# rating for 629.99. They're made to go on military stuff, but I'm sure they could be hacked onto a Rover.... Other goodies are Ramsey 8Klb. hydraulic winches for 799.99. Ibuy from these folks now and then, as they've got all sorts of Mil-Spec surplus goodies. On the cable: 5/16" cable - PN 308-C - .34/foot 3/8 " cable - PN 308-D - .49/foot And so on..... {Mscellaneous groveling over straight lines deleted....<grin>} BTW, I couldnt get the winch to freespool out, hope I didn't get F$%#&d over. I think/hope it's just the tangle of wire. You did release the clutch and brake, right? The two levers on the side have to be set so that the motor is disconnected from the geartrain and the side brake is released. If not, you ain't agonna go nowhere..... Also I'm assuming your winch is basically identical to mine, but you might know differently, so let me know. If it's the Warn M6000 or M8000, it's basically the same winch. If it's a Bellview, it is the same - don't know that they ever produced anything else. Cheers David Green Car ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 27 Oct 95 15:56:51 EDT From: <Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com> Subject: DISCO WHEELS ---------------------------------- Forwarded ---------------------------------- From: Chris Browne at US014-BOSTON-MINET Date: 10/27/95 1:41PM Receipt Requested Subject: DISCO WHEELS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============== Begin part 2 ========================== HI JIM: 225/75 FIT WELL MANY PEOPLE USE THEN IN UK FOR BFG MT-CAMEL TROPHY DISCOS HAVE I HAVE READ 7.50 X 16 MICHELIN XCLS THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. THESE GIVE A HIGHER GROUND CLEARANCE BY ABOUT AN ONCE BUT IF LR DOES IT THEY MUST FIT. CHECK WITH RN WHO HAVE THE 94 USA TEAM CAMEL AND BE ABLE TO HELP - I BELEIVE THAT CAMEL'S HAVE HEAVIER (DEF 130) SPEC AXLES AND SUSPENSION SO THIS INFORMATION IS WORTH CHECKING OUT CAREFULLY BEFORE ACTING HAVE ALSO SEEN 7.00X 16 TOO 235/85 X 16 IS METRIC VERSION OF 7.5, BUT THEY LOOK ALOT WIDER TO MY EYES AND I WOULD HESITATE UNTIL CLEARENCE COULD BE PROVEN - I HAVE CROSSAXLED MY DISCO (OPPOSITE WHEELS OFF THE GROUND) ONCE SO FAR WITH NO ILL EFFECTS AND HAVE NO PLANS TO MODIFY MY CHILDS BODYWORK BY PLAYING WITH TIRES BFG TRACEDGE IS AVAILABLE IN 7.5 X 16 UNKNOWN FOR MT/AT THIS IS A GOOD TIRE REGARDS - PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MT 225/85 X 16 ============== End part 2 ============================ ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 20:16:21 +0000 From: rnewell@dircon.co.uk (Russell Newell) Subject: Ride height of SIII Does anyone know what the correct ride height for the rear springs of a SIII LWB. Mine seem to be sagging a bit. Do heavy duty springs make a difference to the ride height? ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 16:10:42 EST From: "Wharton, Skip" <wharton@mail.scra.org> Subject: OK - you got me - it's Friday TeriAnn, thank you for being merciful in your response - I got a little jumpy when I got to the last line of your original message. I am red-faced both from the exertion of jumping to a conclusion without reading the message carefully, as well as from being snookered. Suffice it to say, I'll be more careful in the future, and watch you guys like a bunch of snakes...:*) The Beemer plant is here with us in the GOOD Carolina, and I've been hearing vague reports of an SUV being manufactured there at some point in the future - I just figured someone on the Rovernet would have more facts than I did... and it WAS a masterfully written, beastly little article... So - if this is the only time I feel like a knucklehead while communicating through this medium, I'll be totally amazed. With Warm (and Very Humble) Regards, Skip Wharton From the Holy City of Charleston, SC, USA Series IIa 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 05:46:20 +0800 (WST) From: TONY YATES <tonyy@waalpha.wa.BoM.GOV.AU> Subject: Re: Discovery Steel wheels On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Mark Talbot wrote: > I read the thread about Disco steel wheels. I got mine from Arrow services > for my SIII. I beleive they cost me 20 pounds ea. I think I got mine here and > through customs !!! Yes don't forget those guys for abput $250 total. Don't want to gloat too much, but I got a set of Discovery steel wheels for free. When I got my last lot of tyres (235/85) I went to a place that was next door to the main LR dealer in Perth. Seems that all the new Disco owners were specifying alloys and the dealer was (almost) literally throwing the old steels over the fence. Cheers. ========================================================== @@@@@@@@@@@@ Tony Yates @@@@@@@@@@ Bureau of Meteorology @@@@@@@ Port Hedland @@@@ Western Australia @@@@ @@@ ph: (091) 401 350 @@@ fax: (091) 401 100 @@@ @@@ email: A.Yates@bom.gov.au @@ @ ========================================================== ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 18:05:54 EST From: "Wharton, Skip" <wharton@mail.scra.org> Subject: Perpetuation of the Species If you haven't taken the time to look at Dave McKain's Home Page that he mentioned in an earlier posting you should do so. He has done an outstanding job of clearly presenting these old elephants... there's some beauty in them thar hills... Also, Rick Crider sent me some pictures of Hugo, his '66 Series IIA 109 that is for sale, so I can try to generate some interest here in Charleston and in Hilton Head... Rick's e-mail description of old Hugo didn't do it justice... this is one very nice vehicle. I only wish I could manage it - but maybe next time. I have set up a web page with three pictures of Hugo - similar to Dave's web page - will have up on Monday... you'll see what I mean... Skip wharton From the Holy City of Charleston, SC, USA Series IIa 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:03:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu> Subject: Towing Capacity Howdy all, I have a question regarding the towing capacity of my truck. My friend has a 23' powerboat that weighs in @ 5800#. It is on a dual axle trailer. I don't know what the total tongue weight is. I just installed HD springs... Can I tow this? Thanx for all help... steve _________________________________ |_______|_______|_______|_______| "Moose" | ____________ | | \\ '73 III 88" | / | \ | | \\ ________ | | | | | | \\ | | | \______|_____/ |______|_______\\___|________|__ |___________________|_______________|---------------\ | [] [] [] | | 0 |) | |--] | | _| / OOOOO | | OOOOO |__ |_|____I OO o o OO ___|_______________|___ OO o o OO ____| 0 OO o 0 o OO OO o 0 o OO OO o OO "Tread Lightly" OO o OO OOOOO OOOOO Florida Rover Canvas Steve Swiger swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu (813) 980-1013 (813) 253-0905 (Work) ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 19:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Towing Capacity Steve asks.. > I have a question regarding the towing capacity of my truck. My friend > has a 23' powerboat that weighs in @ 5800#. It is on a dual axle > trailer. I don't know what the total tongue weight is. I just installed > HD springs... Can I tow this? / Probably... BUT. Trying to tow a large trailer with ANY short-wheelbase truck can be VERY squirley. The heavy trailer will push the '88 all over the road. Friend of mine was towing a double-axel trailer with a VW bus with his '88. It started swaying coming down a hill and went out of control. He wound up in a field, flipped over the Rover and the trailer. Fortunately, no-one was hurt. So, if you absolutely have to tow it with the Rover, just be very careful. Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 725-1859 Gloversville NY, 12078 -USA- 1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney") 7 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern") #:-}> 1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts) ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Thouge@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 19:56:18 -0400 Subject: Rover Rally & ESPN2 Last night (Thurs. 26th) at 9:25, I was searching for something on the tube came accross a piece on the Camel Trophy trials and race this past year. It was on ESPN2 and lasted till 10pm, I would guess that it started at 9. The guide reads billiards in this time slot, if this is billiards, I'm buying a table! If anyone knows of any time that it might be aired again or where I could get a copy, I would like to know. While I'm on the computer I'll tell of an excellent group of Land Rover owners in the KC area that welcomed us last weekend in eastern MO. The Flatland Rover Society held a successful rally/campout in which there were 13 series rovers (all 88" I,II's, &III's) , 2 defenders, 1 Disco, 1 Rangie. Long trail rides and good technical driving. Only one rover on its side with no injuries. Lots of good people in the group...the only one on the list that I know of is Ray Harder. :-) Todd Houge SIII 88" Springfield, MO USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:08:34 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: Re: Towing Capacity Steven Swiger <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu> writes: >I have a question regarding the towing capacity of my truck. My friend >has a 23' powerboat that weighs in @ 5800#. It is on a dual axle >trailer. I don't know what the total tongue weight is. I just installed >HD springs... Can I tow this? Do you feel comfortable towing something that weighs more than your own truck? In this State, California, I believe that you need trailer brakes on anything over 3,000 lbs. Also trailer hitches are limited by class and weight. According to Draw-Tite's brochure, the lowest Class I is 2,000 lbs. Gross Trailer Weight (GTW) with a 200 lbs Tongue Weight (TW), Class II is 3,500 GTW and 300 TW, and Class III is 3,500-5,000 GTW and 300-500 TW for weight carrying trailer hitches. For weight distributing trailer hitches, Class III is 4,000 GTW and 350 TW, and Class IV is 5,000-10,000 GTW and 500-1,000 TW. Judge for yourself, but it appears at 5,800 lbs you're at the highest rated receiver --and not just four bolts to a rusty frame :) and Draw Tite recommends a Full-Size Cars, Pickups, Vans, and Utility vehicles as the towing vehicle. Next question... lights!! Treading Lightly! Michael Carradine, Architect Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 Carradine Studios, PO Box 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 USA <cs@crl.com> _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:40:50 -0700 From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net> Subject: Much New Stock At British Pacific British Pacific in Burbank CA recently got a large shipment of LR parts. I browsed through it today. There was lots of stuff for Series vehicles, and some parts for Range Rovers and Discoveries too. I bought a set of door interior trim panels (upper and lower pieces and armrest) at $130 for both right and left doors, and a pair of folding rear bench seats for $98 each. Their interior stuff is mostly PWB. They also had front seats in plain vinyl, Series III style, and high-back cloth, center seat boxes, and other goodies. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 17:26:42 -0700 From: maddeng@Apple.com (gary madden) Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest - TeriAnn, surely you gest! Think of the price hikes to pay for the tooling on all those high-rpm/low-torgue multi-valve engines (not my favorite power curves for off-roading). Next we'll see recyclable Landies. Did you say the Odin was based on a 318i chassis with air filtration??? >Dateline Bavaria >The director of Land Rover Gmbh announced a new series of Land Rovers [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)] >And for those who tow yaughts, we have the 8 series with it's mighty V12. >Four wheel drive optional at extra cost on special orders. >TeriAnn ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 20:23:30 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Boyer Bransden Inductive Ignition Has anyone out there tried using the Boyer Brande inductive discharge system for electronic ignition? Do they perform as claimed? I understand that this is a relatively cheap, no basic alteration, add on type unit that greatly reduces point wear and hence timing accuracy. I've not contacted the UK sources yet; I assume they're still around. I'd be installing this unit in a SIIA 109 converted from + to - earth. Cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:15:25 -0600 (CST) From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca> Subject: Re: Series lll Hand Throttle In Canada at least all petrol Land Rovers I have owned (8) have had hand throtles. They are easy to install and in very cold weather are quite handy. Having said this, I took it off this vehicle when I restored it because at the time I broke the lever and couldn't fix it. I miss not having it however. Dave VE4PN ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 22:04 MST From: jhoward@argus.lowell.edu (James D. Howard II) Subject: Ace Ventura II I just saw a preview of the new "Ace Ventura" movie, which contained a Land Rover. This was on the Comedy Channel during a showing of "The Gods Must be Crazy", of course. The preview showed a Land Rover being crushed by a monster truck. James ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951028 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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