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1 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000423Check yer rod...
2 Danny Phillips [danny@tl12Steering Relay
3 LANDROVER@delphi.com 35Re: leaky traNS
4 LANDROVER@delphi.com 20Re: alternators!!
5 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D12Emulations
6 LANDROVER@delphi.com 33Re: Booby trap
7 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A16Re: Emulations
8 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A24Diesel parts available
9 "John C. White III" [jcw27Re: West Coast Challenge
10 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em14Re: Emulations
11 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr23Re: Ottawa
12 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu40Re: Emulations
13 "Sean McInerney" [smcine30STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!
14 David Rosenbaum [rosenba12Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!
15 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em19Re: Emulations
16 belane@ERE.UMontreal.CA 19Where to purshace LR
17 ROLLINSM@newouvaxa.cats.24RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
18 "Soren Vels Christensen"22Re: Emulations
19 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000440Re: Booby trap
20 Ted VanDecar [vandecar@w14 The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
21 "Francis J. Twarog" [ftw30Re:Range Rovers
22 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr211991 Range Rover for sale
23 Oscar Montelibano [omont27airconditioning problems on RR
24 "William L. Leacock" [7528Steering idler.
25 Chris Haslam [haslam@alc1488 RR Swivel pin gaiter kit
26 rover@pinn.net (Alexande26Hydraulic woes
27 LANDROVER@delphi.com 20Re: Emulations
28 LANDROVER@delphi.com 27Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!
29 David Place [dplace@SIRN15Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!
30 "Hugh Grierson" [Hugh_Gr29 Re: Steering idler.
31 Leslie Stutsman [100042.27Re: Bat Fastards


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Date: 11 Oct 95 04:35:06 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Check yer rod...

Had a very unhappy RR owner at the workshop yesterday (no, it wasn't me
for a change) who was close to tears because he had had his front brakes
plus shocks repaired/overhauled/replaced etc. for an unspeakable amount of
money because the beast was pulling to the left when braking. Well, it still
was, and his garage had more or less given up on the vehicle, telling him
things like "that's what you get for buying an english car..."  We couldn't
accept this argument of course, so we had another good look at everything,
plus a high-speed test drive on the autobahn. There obviously was something
wrong, but it couldn't be the brakes, because it also pulled left when
*accelerating* (??), and had a noticeable jerky sway at high speeds. We
proceeded to check out the entire steering setup and alignment, and there
it was: The left hand side track rod (tie rod, or whatever) end was dry and
had play like we've never seen it before. Replaced a $ 18.- rod end,
corrected the alignment, and the problem was gone. You'd think that a
garage worth it's salt would find a defect like that... maybe they didn't
want to find it? What was that slogan... "Rip U off while U wait"

Stefan

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From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk>
Subject: Steering Relay
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 11:03:12 BST

To the chap who has had his steering relay explode on him, i would suggest you
buy a new one rather than try and fix it. The guys who fitted my new one told
me toi do it that way so i got a new steering relay from craddocks for about 
47 quid, (recon only 5quid cheaper) and they fitted it for about 15 (the mechs)
 i was well impressed, i could go round corners like a car not a boat, i.e.
throw the wheel over and wait for her to come round.

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:12:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: leaky traNS

Dave...

 #1 - Get rid of that idiot of a mechanic!! 'nuff said.

 #2 - Rebuild or replace the clutch master and slave cylinders.
Replace the flexible line that attaches to the slave. If this truck has a
common resevoir for the clutch and brake he'll probably have to do the same
with all the brake hydraulics. All the hydraulic lines will need to be
flushed out to remove any trace of whatever crap the idiot added. Refill
with CASTROL brake fluid. If you have replaced all the hydraulics and
completely cleaned the pipes, you can use silicon brake fluid (more $$$) but
whatever you use DON'T use just any old brake fluid - no matter what it says
about DOT 4 or DOT 5 or whatever. Someone here on the list will say
differant, I'm sure. My personal experience after owning British cars for
over 20 years is that if you use anything but Castrol, you're asking for
trouble. 

 #3 - What type of oil is coming out of the "flywheel hole"??? Engine oil or
90 Wt??? Smell it. I know you know what 90 Wt smells like!! :) If it's
engine oil, chances are it's the rear main seal on the engine. That would be
my guess, anyway.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 725-1859                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078      -USA-   1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:12:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: alternators!!

The most common non-lucas alternator conversion is using a Delco (GM) unit.
I have a crude diagram for a bracket adapter which lets you fit a Delco in
place of the generator easily. The diagram is in BMP format and UUENCODED.
Also have detailed instructions on conversion for the electrics. If you can
handle the diagram (via E-MAIL) I'll sent it all, otherwise, it can go via
snail-mail..

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 725-1859                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078      -USA-   1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Emulations
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 07:54:00 DST

Mike Rooth wrote "about the only vehicle that doesnt copy any other
would be the Reliant Robin:"

Thank goodness nobody copies the Reliant Robin

Trevor Easton

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:52:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Booby trap

John sez...

 
> I was preparing Loftys new frame in the garage this evening while he
.....snip......
> that inside that gizzmo there is this bloody great spring. (and other
> things) It flew apart and scattered the parts all over the garage.   Well
> now I've been and changed some items of clothing, and had a smoke I have a
> few questions.
/

Letsee... OH, SHIT! Was probably your expression, or at least the contents
of your pants.... Glad to hear that you didn't get punctured or anything! 

> 2. Could somebody tell me how to get the cast steel body out of the cross
> member, (it's stuck)
/

I think you need to press it out. A hydraulic jack or a porta-power would
work nice, if you can figure out how to clamp it all down in the process.
As far as putting it back together - there are a couple of methods in the
workshop manuals. One involves special clamps to hold the spring
compressed. Both methods look pretty scary. Personally, I would opt for a new
one, if I could afford it. 

Cheers
Mike

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 11 Oct 95  8:35:39 EDT
Subject: Re: Emulations

>Mike Rooth wrote "about the only vehicle that doesnt copy any other
>would be the Reliant Robin:"

>Thank goodness nobody copies the Reliant Robin

>Trevor Easton

 
Somebody mind filling in the rest of the Real World (and the US) on whatthehell 
a Reliant Robin is ? -Alan

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 11 Oct 95  8:42:31 EDT
Subject: Diesel parts available

I havwe a full fuel system available from my Diesel engine (which is presntly 
in Dale Desprey's hands in Otowa). 

It consists of:

CAV injection pump with 77,000 miles on it
4 freshly adjusted and cleaned injectors
Piping between the two
hosing and dual filter unit

I'm looking for 400 for the whole set, and will consider other offers. Shipping 
is your call on this item - I figure it's 10 to 15 kilos of stuff.

I would also consider a swap for a 3/4 tilt for a 109 (yeah, dream on.....)

I also have a good Diesel starter for sale from the same engine for $200.

Email me, or call me at 617-693-5635 (my office). -Alan

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: West Coast Challenge

Photos for the lists, eh?  That reminds me of a radio disk jockey some 
years back who would return from vacation with slides he took while 
gone.  It being radio all you heard was the sound of the slide 
projector's carrousel mechanism going round and his narration of what/who 
the subject of the slide being "shown" was.  I guess you had to be there.

Anyway, I'm afraid I haven't the time to do the trip up to Canada.  It's 
not that far really (about 1,000 miles), but sometimes the world is too 
much with me late and soon.  Sigh.

Cheers!
John
'95 Discovery
San Francisco, California

On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Michael Carradine wrote:

>  John C. White III <jcwhite3@well.com> writes:
> >Well, Andre's e-mail address ends in "ca," which is Canada.  I'll guess 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 22 lines)]
> -Michael (If it's Tuesday it must be... ?) Carradine
>  cs@crl.com

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:37:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Emulations

On 11 Oct 1995, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:

> Somebody mind filling in the rest of the Real World (and the US) on whatthehell 
> a Reliant Robin is ? -Alan

	A little three wheeled car available in the UK.  Most commonly 
	seen in North America on episodes of Mr. Bean as the nemesis
	of his yellow Mini.  (Parking garage scene demonstrates their
	stability).  Kinda cute actually...

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:32:56 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Ottawa 

 Christian Szpilfogel <chrisz@bnr.ca> writes:

>Just thought I'ld mention that Ottawa is not spelled Ottowa though my
>Rover dealerhship wished it did (i.e. Otto's). I've noticed it a
>couple of times so I thought it was worth pointing out.

 My most humble apologies.  I should pay more attention to the names
 of our respected native north american tribes --must be the germanic
 influence of Unimogs that has me thinking 'Otto' :)  I'll try and
 reprogram the spell-checker (me!).

                           _____
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                     Rumpole of the Bay
 cs@crl.com               [________]                            '65 IIA 88
             ___________.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html
 

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Emulations
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 15:58:58 BST

Sorry,folks,I'd temporarily forgotten that the Reliant Robin
was a solely English excursion into the utterly naff.
To add to Dixon's remarks,its a three wheeler,two at the
back,one at the front,front wheel drive(I think).
The bodyshell is glassfibre,and the engine is about 750cc.
Its reason for being is that in the UK you can drive a three
wheeler on a motor cycle licence,but you cant drive a car.Not
a proper car that is.Its a sort of modern equivalent to the
motor bike/sidecar setup,but with a heater.
Due to the extremely light body the little buggers can go
remarkably fast.One bloke over here souped one up and was
clocked by the constabulary at well over the ton.In fact,
he went so fast that the pursuing patrol car gave up chasing
him,and radioed ahead for a roadblock.They reckoned it was for 
safety reasons on the Robins part,*I* reckon they just didnt
want to admit that they couldnt catch him with their big boy's
toy.The magistrate let him off with a fine.He thought it was
so funny that the bloke deserved leniency.So did the cops.
Not to be confused with the original Morgan three wheeler.
This had two at the front one at the back(late twenties,early
thirties)chain drive to the wheel,and a vee twin motor bike
engine mounted externally at the front.Engines varied from
650cc to 1100cc.It had a vee winshield and/or aero screens.
Looking at one approaching(as I once did) with the driver
wearing a leather WW2 flying jacket and leather helmet and
flying goggles,you think that all that is missing is a pair
of Spandau machine guns side by side on the stubby little
bonnet,and you have the Red Barons automobile.
Neither of them are much good off road,though,although I
beleive an AA man had to rescue one from the middle of a moor
somewhere,using his D90.A Robin that is.The Morgans are *far*
too valuable now to risk that sort of silly trick.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: 11 Oct 1995 12:26:54 -0500
From: "Sean McInerney" <smcinerney@mail.nrgn.com>
Subject: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!

 STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!
  Now we all know that Rovers are renowned for their durability and the
ability to clamber over just about anything.  Well mine recently fell ill
after an encounter with a speed bump!  Mind you, I did not hit it that fast,
fearing more for my spine than the integrity of the Rover.  Well after the
characteristically stiff-legged WHAM! going over this square-edged speed
bump, my motor began to rev (I had the clutch disengaged).  I now am able to
fully close the throttle by pushing *UP* on the accelerator.  I have been
unable to locate any obviously broken or mangled spring in the linkages. 
Perhaps, something slipped out of adjustment....I also have a hand throttle
(the toothed horizontal type).  Not being able to idle is becoming a big pain
in the...... 

  My Rover is a 1963 IIa with a Weber single-barrel.  The lever arm on the
carb. now remains about 1/8 - 1/4" from its stop UNLESS, of course, I push
*UP* on the accelerator (no effect on returning to idle with the hand
throttle.

  I know this sounds like a dopey problem, but I am currently without a clue
and would really like to avoiding taking it in to a garage.

Thanks in advance,
Sean C. McInerney
1963 88" SIIa.....currently ROARING to every stop!
                   NOTE: The effect is quite intimidating.

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!

Dear Sean, 

First, check the undercarriage to make sure you didn't run over a lion 
which is now trapped in the chassis!

Best wishes,
David

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:30:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Emulations

On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Mike Rooth wrote:

> remarkably fast.One bloke over here souped one up and was
> clocked by the constabulary at well over the ton.

	Over a ton in a *Robin*?  So, there's hope for the 109
	short of JATO's I guess.  BTW,  What was this chap on
	when he was caught?  At those speeds I'm amazed it didn't
	take off and roll...  Either nerves of steel or completely
	insane.  (Well, he did do this to a Robin...)

	So, what's a Robin cost these days?  It would fit in the back of
	a 109 coming over, or more accurately a 101...  Customs would think
	the importer was insane...

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:17:30 -0400
From: belane@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Belanger Eric)
Subject: Where to purshace LR

	I am planning to travel extensively throughout Africa  for 12-18 months next year.
I was thinking of purchasing a LR(used) with my wife and then re-importing it back to Canada.
Where would it be cheapest to make such a purchase.  We would be willing to fly to London in
necessary and drive down to the Ferry in Gibraltar if nessecary.  Could you also include an
approximate list of prices for used LWBs serie III in the UK.  I was also told the R.N. sold them as
surplus.  If this is correct does anybody know in what state and for how much.  We will both be on
a recently-graduated-but-must see-world-before-working  budget so any hints or help would
be greatly apriciated.

						Thank you in advance

Eric Belanger
Departement des sciences economiques
Universite de Montreal

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:24:09 EDT
From: ROLLINSM@newouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu
Subject: RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

From:	NAME: Mark Rollins                  
	FUNC: English                         
	TEL: 614-593-2794                     <ROLLINSM@A1@OUVAX>
To:	MX%"Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.com"@OUVAX@MRGATE@OUVAX

    Re: Stephan Jacob's compassion for those with frozen linkage .
    
    I had a similar problem with a frozen range selector on my '85 5-speed. 
    The vehicle had been in storage for some time before I bought it, and 
    evidently the linkage rusted up from lack of use.  And yes, if my 
    experience is any indication,  one must drop or remove the entire unit 
    to gain access to and free the linkage. (In passing, it is wise to use 
    the linkage every month or so to keep it free.)
    
    More commiserations
    
    Mark Rollins
     85 RR & 2 IIa's

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 20:58:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Emulations

In message Wed, 11 Oct 95 15:58:58 BST,
  Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>  writes:

> Sorry,folks,I'd temporarily forgotten that the Reliant Robin
> was a solely English excursion into the utterly naff.
> To add to Dixon's remarks,its a three wheeler,two at the

etc...

I saw one of those. On "It's not the nine o'clock news". Two business
looking men drive up and park next to one another. They get out and Mel
says "Check this" and press the button on the infrared remote control.
Pop, the car is invisible. "Cute" says Griff and press the button on his
IR RC. Pop, the car is a Robin. "No one would ever want to steal _that_".

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: 11 Oct 95 16:28:06 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Booby trap

> the next thing was to give it a bit of tap with a soft hammer. Did you know
> that inside that gizzmo there is this bloody great spring. (and other
> things) It flew apart and scattered the parts all over the garage.   Well

You were damn lucky. This spring can go right through your head if you
stand in the way... The steering relay is not a thing to be fooled around
with.

> 1. Is this a common area for rust

If you drive a lot in salty winter conditions - yes.

> 2. Could somebody tell me how to get the cast steel body out of the cross
> member, (it's stuck)

Well, it's *meant* to be stuck, otherwise it wouldn't give you a secure
pivotal point for steering. Spray it with rust solvent 3 times a day for a
week. It might eventually come out with the wack of a mallet. But there have
been cases where the thing was rusted solid to the extent that it had to
be cut out of the frame and a new crossmember welded back in.

> 3. How will I compress the spring to get this thing-a-ma-jig back together again

If you want to do it without risking your life again you a) need the Churchill
special tool #600536 , and b) have to be a hard-handed SOB weighing at least
90 kilos, otherwise that spring will just make fun of you.

You should also have the workshop manual to see how exactly it is reassembled.
If you botch this thing up, your steering can suddenly freeze, or loose
connection to the wheels altogether. Either is bad.

Enjoy,

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:36:29 -0700
From: Ted VanDecar <vandecar@washington.com>
Subject: 	The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest 

Would someone send me Tuesday's (October 10) digest?  The PC 
crashed!

After lurking here for a few months, the LR of choice is a 1994 
D90.

Warm regards,

Ted Van Decar

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:28:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Francis J. Twarog" <ftwarog@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re:Range Rovers

Went down to New York last week to check out a 1978 RR 2 door listed for 
$8000 - didn't take much to get it down to $5000, but that was still too 
much considering the transmission work, rust, etc.etc.  The fact of the 
matter is, I am looking for a daily driver and not another project car 
(already have 2.5 Land Rovers to take care of those urges).  So, yet 
again, I appeal to those who know of anyone that might be selling (or 
considering selling) a low mileage 1987 or '88 Range Rover.  Please 
email me or give me a call at (802) 864 - 0936.  (Preferably, a car 
located in New England).  I'd very much appreciate it.

BTW - I saw two wonderful examples of nice Rovers getting destroyed due 
to either inexperienced off-roaders or just plain bad luck!  The first 
was a LWB Range Rover sent from Maine to the local LR dealer for repairs 
- this one had managed to find its way deep into salt water, on it's side 
about 100 feet from the trail/road.  From the damage, it looks like 
*excessive* speed was the culprit - as far as I know, the driver was 
unscathed.  The next was also in for repair, this time a yellow Def 90 
whose front driver's wheel was jammed a full 2 feet backward into the 
drivers side doorpost!!  It appears, again, that speed was responsible, 
as the truck dropped off into a ditch too fast (there were tire tracks 
left on the INSIDE wheel well) - from the looks of it, I would guess that 
the passengers got away with only a major case of whiplash.  

Frank Twarog
Burlington, VT

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:08:17 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: 1991 Range Rover for sale

 The local flea market/car dealer magazine has a 1991 Range Rover
 for sale at $19,000.  They say it has leather and all options,
 which probably makes it a County and not a Hunter model.  From
 the tiny B&W photo it looks like the right side is in good shape,
 and it must be a dark color.  Being sold by Independent Mercedes
 510-932-0685, probably Walnut Creek --20 min. east of San Francisco.

 Other than that, you're on your own :)

                           _____
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                     Rumpole of the Bay
 cs@crl.com               [________]                            '65 IIA 88
             ___________.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover Connection 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 

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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:43:58 +0800
From: Oscar Montelibano <omont@mnl.sequel.net>
Subject: airconditioning problems on RR

Help guys........

Am in the Philippines with an American spec'd. '89 Range, service manuals
and no LR dealerships.

The airconditioning conked out, doesn't cool at all.  The only thing we
could do to get the a/c working again was to *bypass* the ECU by jumping one
of the relays.  Thought everything was hunky dory until........one rainy day
when it got too cold.  Used the temperature control and found out in no
longer worked.  Its at max cooling all the time now.

The appropriate sensors and relays are in working order and no short/crossed
wires anywhere.  We suspect it must be something in the ECU but no way to
check it here.

Thanks.

Oscar

Oscar Montelibano
omont@mnl.sequel.net
75247.2423@compuserve.com

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Date: 11 Oct 95 21:59:17 EDT
From: "William L. Leacock" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Steering idler.

Leonard John writes , how to reassemble a steering idler.
 first, do not waste your time trying to remove the casing, you will probably do
more damage to the frame.
 Search your garage for the shaft, a spring and 4 half bearings made from a
phenolic material.and a couple of brass washers
 Place two of the bearing halves on the shaft and hold them in position with a
hose clip
 put the spring on the shaft against the bearing, early shafts have a hole
through which you can fit a 3 mm dia bar, then rotate the spring to screw it
past the bar.
 fit the other bearing halves and secure with a hose clip
 fit the assembly into the housing with one of the washers dropped in first,
then as the assembly slides in the hose clip will be pushed up onto the spring
where it can be removed.
 push the rest of the assembly into the hole until the top hose clip is pushed
off  of the top bearing.
 pour hypoid 90 into the top of the assembly, leave it for a few hours and top
up the oil, leave it some more hours and top up the oil, continue until the oil
level does not drop.
 place the top thrust washer in place and refit thte top plate,  easy int it !!
 Warning " keep your head out of line with the spring "

Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:22:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: 88 RR Swivel pin gaiter kit

I have in my basement Land-Rover part RTC3826.  Is this a gaiter kit for 
a RR or a LR? If it's for a LR, it's for sale, and who can tell me where I 
can find a kit for an 88 RR?

Second question: Have the swivel pins, etc. ever changed on a RR (up to 
recent years)?  I had a 79 RR, so the kit might be for that RR.

...chris
88 RR

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:20:33 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Hydraulic woes

David Bobeck writes with problems with a friend's clutch.  Oy.  If there was 
a little problem before, there is a *major* problem now...especially if this 
is a Series II/IIa system with a common reservoir for the clutch and brake 
cylinders.  In short - *the system is shot* TOTALLY.  If the mechanic (and I 
use this term loosely so as not to offend bona fide technicians out there) 
does not do a *total* system rebuild pronto - and I hate to say this - see 
an attorney.  The DC area is rife with 'em.  You can't spit without hitting 
one.  The dubious actions of putting some spurious substance in the fluid 
and spraying something else in the clutch housing will likely win *big* if 
you have to go as far as court.  (Lessee, 'pain and suffering' oh yeah, 
should be good for a mil' or two.)

OK...one more OJ joke:  What did O.J. say to Marcia Clark on the way out of 
the courtroom?  "Can I have my glove back now?"  Cheers.
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:02:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Emulations

Alan asks... Dixon answers...

> > Somebody mind filling in the rest of the Real World (and the US) on
> > whatthehell a Reliant Robin is ? -Alan
>         A little three wheeled car available in the UK.  Most commonly 

/

OK... Knew what it was... what about the Trabant?? Wasn't that a three
wheeler or did it have four in a diamond pattern? Something did, just can't
remember what...

Cheers
Mike

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:02:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!

Sean McInerney sticks his throttle....

> characteristically stiff-legged WHAM! going over this square-edged speed
> bump, my motor began to rev (I had the clutch disengaged).  I now am able
> to fully close the throttle by pushing *UP* on the accelerator.  I have
> been unable to locate any obviously broken or mangled spring in the
/

How about this... Disconnect the various throttle linkages, one by one, and
check each section for binding or restrictions. There are three major pivot
points.. the accelerator pedal, the long cross shaft and the bellcrank
assembly mounted just below the steering box (this is a LHD Rover??). That's
my two-cents worth.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 725-1859                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078      -USA-   1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney")      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:16:09 -0600 (CST)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Re: STUCK THROTTLE....AHHHHHH!

Just where the first throtle arm joins to the flat bracket (this is hard 
to describe) there is a washer with a spring behind it.  The washer is 
captivated by a hexagonal support and a nut.  Losen the nut and rotate 
the hex shaped support so the spring gets tighter.  This should solve the 
problem.  If it doesn't then get a throtle spring, it looks like a weak 
screen door sping and attach one end to your oil stick and the other to 
the arm on the carb and you will have no more problems.  Watch you don't 
tighten the spring so much you can't push down the gas pedal.  Your foot 
will get very tired if you over tighten the spring.  Dave VE4PN
r

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From: "Hugh Grierson" <Hugh_Grierson@trimble.co.nz>
Date:          Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:25:26 +1300
Subject:       Re: Steering idler.

> [..snip..] how to reassemble a steering idler.
>  first, do not waste your time trying to remove the casing, you will probably do
> more damage to the frame. [..snip..]

So Bill, are you implying that the whole relay unit overhaul can be
done with it still in the frame?  Pulling the front grille panel off
is no big deal if that's necessary.

I've just replaced the last tie rod end that badly needed it (it had 
excessive play after only 2 month service - damn those cheap parts),
and now the next source of play in the steering seems to be in the relay.
The top nd bottom arms don't rotate completely in one plane, ie 
there's some tipping of the shaft in the relay.  If overhaul kits are 
available, and if it can be done in place, then it *might* be worth 
thinking about fixing.  In any case it's not too bad yet, but I'll 
keep an eye on it.  It would be nice to know that I could do the job 
if and when it eventually becomes necessary.

> Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

Cheers, Hugh
-- 
Hugh Grierson   hugh_grierson@trimble.co.nz  

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Date: 12 Oct 95 01:00:17 EDT
From: Leslie Stutsman <100042.254@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re:  Bat Fastards

>>>> Larry

Yes LR Supermarket is very much the same types of products and "attitude" of the
owner sucks.  Much of what they stock is Bearmach,  and expensive Bearmach at
that.  If you do order from them and you think the price is pretty good, I would
ask if it is genuine.  But from my experience, they are usually more expensive
than Paddocks and Craddocks for comprable products.  I only buy from them when I
need too, since they are right up the street from our workshop.  Even as volume
buyers, we never get discounts.  The owner knows nothing about Land Rovers, and
even less about business.

Cheers

Leslie

'56 Series I 86" Trialer     "Big Bird"
'58 Series II 88"              "Scouser"
'69 Series IIa 109 5 door   "Cheez burger"  in paradise

For Sale
'62 Series IIa 109 regular  "Everton"
'65 Series IIa Military 88"  "Cedrych"

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