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1 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu20Re: New Jeep
2 Tom Stevenson [gbfv08@ud13new jeep
3 terje@tvnorge.no (Terje 19Spin on oil filter adaptors
4 Danny Phillips [danny@tl24Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
5 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co20Fuel Tanks from Famous Four?
6 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co27LRs in Bermuda
7 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co20Re: Winchless
8 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D17Oil Levels
9 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co18Re[2]: Fuel Tanks from Famous Four?
10 Harincar@mooregs.com (Ti32Yet another stupid P.O. trick
11 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A27Overdrive whine - Is it supposed to?
12 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000436Re: New Jeep!
13 DEBROWN@SRP.GOV 40Cheers Taffiny!!!
14 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob38leaky traNS
15 David Rosenbaum [rosenba19Hearing the radio (stereo) at speed
16 don@direct.ca (donald l.9alternators!!
17 (Tom Rowe) [trowe@ae.age32Re: leaky traNS
18 (Tom Rowe) [trowe@ae.age15Wisconsin alumni (not LR realted exactly)
19 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr27Re: Weber Carb Tuning
20 Andre_Maier@mindlink.bc.11[not specified]
21 David Place [dplace@SIRN8Other British Vehicles
22 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca16[not specified]
23 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr33Re: West Coast Challenge
24 chrisste@clark.net (Chri15Richmond Raves Rover Rally
25 Spenny@aol.com 14Re: New Jeep
26 Leslie Stutsman [100042.26Bat Fastards
27 "John C. White III" [jcw23Re: West Coast Challenge
28 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr25Re: West Coast Challenge
29 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr19Say it ain't so, Jimmy?
30 jawa@i-max.co.nz (leonar28Booby trap


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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New Jeep
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 9:36:05 BST

Oh I say!Well said,old girl!Ahem.
No need to draw and quarter the Jeep.It'll be a traffic
bollard in ten years time.
Perhaps it is worth pointing out that although the wartime
Jeep may have provided the Wilkes brothers with a certain
number of ideas(mainly,one gathers because of its shortcomings)
the Land Rover was no more a copy than the Mitsubishi Type O
was a copy of the Supermarine Spitfire.Unless,of course,having
the same sized wheels and,in the case of the 80",wheelbase,made
it a copy.
If that be so,about the only vehicle that doesnt copy any other
would be the Reliant Robin:-)
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Tom Stevenson <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: new jeep
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:00:19 +0100 (BST)

I think that the guy who lost his Land Rover on a New Zealand beach was
caught out by the incoming tide because of an electrical fault rather
than because he was bogged down. Does this sound typical?
-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(01475) 530581  Fax:(01475) 530601

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:36:03 +0100
From: terje@tvnorge.no (Terje Krogdahl)
Subject: Spin on oil filter adaptors

I believe this was discussed some time ago, but anyway...

Does anyone know of a European source for spin on oil filter adaptors for
SIII 2.25 engines? I've just about had enough of the leaky oil filter
assembly on my engine.. I looked into using a 2.5 adaptor, but the price 
turned out to be around 250£, and I believe someone makes an adaptor kit
for the old type oilfilter mountings.

Terje K.
http://www.tvnorge.no/~terje/index.e.html - My homepage
http://regina.uio.no/nlrk/index.e.html - Norwegian Land Rover Club pages
1972 SIII 88"

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From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 12:17:52 BST

Does anyone know of a good shrink for Ben <G> has some sort of delusion <G>

Seriuosly, that incident in New Zealand, was published in the UK mags and the
end part made us all smile. But locally there is a beach were people launch
boats and them water bike jobbies (can't remember what they are called), just went for ride in the series iia with my mate as some of his windsurf buddies may
have been down there. 

to cut a long story short, a suzuki vitara was stuck trying to pull out a 
trailer with a jet ski (remembered), big fat low profile tyres, no grip and no
brain. well they asked if we would give them and their trailer a tug. so as the water was lapping at his back wheels i suggested that i try and tug them both
at the same time. he was dubious, but despite, complete poo, road tyres we got
him out quite easily, but he was not very happy when he saw a) the mud all up 
his car, and b) i told him not to tie the rope to his A bar. not my fault it 
bent, i wanted to use his lashing eye. my mate was so impressed, he has bought a 110 as a second car (1988) and it takes all his windsurf gear, with just the board on top. now i want a 90 or a 110 for off road. you just can't win can you..

unless a 101 (thinks aloud) <G>

danny

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 08:03:09 EST
Subject: Fuel Tanks from Famous Four?

All,

A while back there was a thread on repair/replacement of 
fuel tanks.  I believe Famous Four was recommended as a 
source.  (RN wants $400 for a new 109 SW tank.)  Is a 
galvanised tank available?

Anyone have FF's phone number or recommend another souce 
with reasonable prices for a good, new tank?

Apologies in advance if the FAQs obviate this enquiry.

Cheers,
Hank

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 07:57:48 EST
Subject: LRs in Bermuda

All,

Just had a very pleasant few days in Bermuda, despite the 
growing influence of American "culture" since I was last 
there.

Sighted what appeared to be a Ninety with a reefer back end 
and a Series tow truck, out and about, with a 109 Police 
vehicle parked outside a small station in the west end.  
Thought that was all there was until passed by the Bermuda 
Regiment compound, in which were parked several LRs as well 
as the more common (for Bermuda) lighter stuff.  

Back in mid-80s, noted the RN had a number of Series 
vehicles at the naval fuelling depot, but it seems that's 
gone, as is the US Naval Air Station, where the EOD guys had 
an OD USN Rangey.

Wife on back of moped: "What are you turning around for?"
Hank on front of moped:  "Thought I saw a Land-Rover back 
there."

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 07:47:43 EST
Subject: Re: Winchless

I, too, am still waiting for parts from a subscriber who has 
cashed my checks 6 months ago, but seems too busy taking 
care of his own fun and projects than delivering his For 
Sale parts as promised.  "Winchless" was awfully polite not 
to mention this fellow by name, but having already reminded 
the subject of this note at least once about the parts owed 
to me, I'm close to warning my fellow subscribers.  

So if you're reading this my friend, time to make things 
right.  I want my Series parts, not my money back.  Jeeps 
are famous, and you are almost infamous.

Regards,
Hank  (It ain't libel if it's true)

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Oil Levels
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 08:59:00 DST

Jeremy Bartlet writes that his gearbox level has risen. Jeremy,  I note you 
say the wading plug is in. Have you been wading lately? Try removing the 
drain plug after the vehicle has been standing for some time to check if you 
have been inadvertently adding water to your gearbox.  We all carefully 
affix breathers to our axles but the gearbox vents are not much higher and 
can easily ingest water as it flows up and around the box, During the Darien 
Gap expedition one of the major supply items was transmission oil as they 
would change it after every significant wading excursion to remove the 
water.

Trevor Easton, 

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 09:51:03 EST
Subject: Re[2]: Fuel Tanks from Famous Four?

Thanks Mike.  Just phoned Famous Four and ordered the "exact 
copy" new tank for 99 Pounds, less VAT.  Genuine was 245 
Pounds.  

Hank  (1960 Series II LWB SW)

> Subject: Re: Fuel Tanks from Famous Four?
> Author:  Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> at Zeus

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> Cheers
> Mike Rooth

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From: Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 09:20:04 -0700
Subject: Yet another stupid P.O. trick

Last spring the list was having a big discussion regarding Series heaters. I 
was reading this with interest because my '66 IIa has a kodiak heater, but I 
couldn't figure out why I was hardly getting any heat out of it. 

I decided that before this winter, I'd dive in and check the whole system out 
so I don't freeze again this year, starting with a cold weather thermostat 
from RN (on sale now).

I discovered that someone had swapped the cable controls for temperature and 
fresh air - i.e. the water control valve and the damper! My whole problem was 
that if I pulled the temp control out, nothing would seem to change much. I 
thought the valve had rusted shut or the cable was broken or something.

Looking through the P.O. logs, I found a reciept for a new heater core for 
it, I wonder if he was having the same problem... :-) He wasn't noted for 
his trouble shooting ability. Either that or his shop screwed it up (also not 
an unlikely situation).

Looking forward to a warm(er) winter,

Tim
---
tim harincar                      moore graphics services
harincar@mooregs.com              minneapolis, mn
'66 IIa 88 
SW

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 10 Oct 95  9:53:38 EDT
Subject: Overdrive whine - Is it supposed to?

Now that Churchill is running well and stopping well, I've been driving him on 
some extended trips out and about. One thing I've noticed is that the overdrive 
is QUITE whiny when under power. Is this typical of the Fairey unit, or could 
it be a sign of a loose castellated nut or some other malady? 

Anthing over 60-65 is noisy...but  can still hear the steeo! (I know, damned 
yuppie......8*)..)

The lubricant levels are fine, and removing the top cover revealed gears that 
looked great, with no sign of chipped teeth or any such damage. Also, the 
synchros on it are smooth, going in and out with no problems at any speed.

With the OD out, he's fine - OD in, he whines like the Enterprise's warp drive.

Lastly, does anyone have a manul for the Fairey overdrive? I'd be quite willing 
to pay copy costs to get a copy of it for my files.

    aj" I love my Series IIa !"r

Also, anybod got an idea of the speedo correction for 235-diameter tires vs. 
the 7.50s on a IIa? Seems to be about 5 MPH low..... -Alan

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Date: 10 Oct 95 11:19:11 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: New Jeep!

Talk about asking for trouble...

> if you do your research.  By the way, the President of Land Rover North
> America son owns a Sidekick.  I guess all I am trying to say is be
> respectful to all other four-wheels and don't live in your own litte world.

Well, being a father myself I am aware how sons have a tendency to rebell
and oppose their fathers on practically every issue, I guess it's part of
growing up and becoming a man. When they eventually do, they usually come
to their senses again - so, there's still hope for the son of the President
of Rover North...
Respectful - oh, but yes, I have great respect for people who dare go
offroading to remote areas all alone in something like Jeeps or Suzukis,
really gutsy! Nothing for cautious, security-minded people like me...
Little world... ok, I agree that the Earth is one of the smaller planets of
our solar system, but for the time being there still seems to be enough
room for Land Rovers and their owners to enjoy themselves; others of course
may be more limited in the terrain they have to choose from.
Actually, I would advise *Jeep* owners to stay in their own little world,
because I have a very sad story to tell (tongue-almost-coming-through-cheek):
About 4 years ago the 'Frankfurt Jeep Club' got in contact with us and asked
if we would like to have regular offroad meets together with them, as they,
just like B.K.Fenwick, thought it silly for each group to keep entirely to
themselves. Much to their surprise we didn't object at all and subsequently
had some very nice offroad runs, outdoor BBQ's, camping in the woods etc.
Now, almost five years later, the Jeep club is on the verge of extinction
because two-thirds of them have meanwhile bought... LAND ROVERS! They all
caught the Land Rover virus!! So, offroad-clubs, be warned...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 08:32:18 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Cheers Taffiny!!!

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Cheers Taffiny!!!

That's a great rebuttal Tiffany! (I hope I spelled your name right...) I've
owned Jeeps and Scouts, both good vehicles, but not Land Rover's. Until I
actually owned one I didn't really know. Before I bought my 1st LR ('94
Disco) I started researching for about 6 months. Libraries, magazine
articles, trips to various dealers, (Actually only Toyota and LR, I had
narrowed it down to these two.) and numerous questions directed towards both
the LRO list and an "offroad" list. (No, I'm not "the infamous Tayler"). I
just figure that anyone who criticizes LR's is just un-educated and/or
miss-informed. LR doesn't exactly over advertise!

BTW, I've spent my share of time fixing broken Scout axles and doing Jeep
repairs, enough to say that I *am* capable of judging these two vehicles as
inferior to LR's.

Again, great reply.

P.S. I *had* to run out and buy the 4-wheeler magazine with the D90 poster.
Looks great! Thanks Michael! (Nice Mog too!)
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 13:14:06 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: leaky traNS

          Hi all.
          Here's a good one.
          A friend took his SerIIa to a local garage that
          claims to know landies. His problem was a clutch
          that didn't work too well. The mechanic said he
          thought it was the throwout bearing getting stuck.
          We have since ascertained that the problem is due
          for the most part to bad clutch cylinders, since
          you haveto pump them up to get pressure and then
          it quickly fades.
          So here's the real problem. The mechanic said he
          would add something to the brake/clutch reservoir
          that would swell the rubber. It did. That's the
          first problem. (it didn't fix anything, it just
          made the rubber "balloon" up to twice its size!)

          Problem number two: The gearbox now spews out
          about a teaspoon of oil every couple of seconds
          from the flywheel hole. The mechanic said he would
          try to "stick a coat hanger in there" and spray
          around some WD40 to loosen up the throwout
          bearing. Having looke at the service manual, I see
          there is a gasket between the front of the gearbox
          and the throwout bearing cover. I assume this is
          where his leak is. I can't find any reference to
          any other seals, in there, but we want to replace
          everything when the box comes out.

          Any ideas?
          Mucho Appreciado
          David Bobeck
          Washington DC
          dbobeck@ushmm.org

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Hearing the radio (stereo) at speed

On 10 Oct 1995, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
> Anything over 60-65 is noisy...but  can still hear the stereo!
 
Here in Seattle, the rainy season has begun. My NAS '94 D90 still has just 
the "surrey" top, so the dash and gauges get pretty wet in the rain. But I 
can tell without looking at the speedometer when I'm over 65 mph because I 
can no longer hear the radio. ( I do wipe the inside of the windshield so 
that I can see the road.)
 
(Others may have a different calibration standard. My ears are 46 years 
old and spent a few years in the 60's and 70's too close to large 
speakers listening to not-too-good rock and roll while I was after all 
the beer I could get, hoping that some fine young woman would find me 
irresistable.......before I passed out)

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:01:23 -0700
From: don@direct.ca (donald l. macdonald)
Subject: alternators!!

I want to upgrade my 20amp generator from my 66 SWB to a 60-70 amp
alternator with a regulator. I was thinking about putting a ford alternator
in but I don't know how easy it fits. Is there an alternator which fits
right in and how does it plug in to bypass the old regulator box??????

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:06:02 EDT
From: (Tom Rowe) <trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: leaky traNS

On Tue, 10 Oct 95 13:14:06 EST David Bobeck wrote:
>          Hi all.
>          Here's a good one.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>          thought it was the throwout bearing getting stuck.
>          Any ideas?

First, If it's IIA it likely doesn't have a throwout bearing (at least
in the usual sense).
Second, the mechanic seems to be in to cobb jobs. Intentionally ruin
your clutch system seals? Well, he owes you a system rebuild. There
are some rather stringent consumer protection laws in your area if I
recall.
Third, spray silicone in the area of a friction disk? Doesn't sound
real bright to me.
Rebuild the clutch hydraulic system & send the mechanic the bill.
And hope he didn't get WD40 on the disk. If he did you may be able to
remedy it with BrakeKleen.
As for the leak, you didn't say if it was for sure gear oil or motor
oil, they smell very different. That will tell you where the leak is
from.

Tom Rowe
UW Center for Dairy Research
Madison, WI 53706	| Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
wk 608-265-6194	| in places even more inaccessible
hm 608-243-8660

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:15:39 EDT
From: (Tom Rowe) <trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu>
Subject: Wisconsin alumni (not LR realted exactly)

Someone on this list (from VA I think) sent me a story about thier
grandparents (both UW alum) and how they met. I've missplaced the file
since my HD crashed. Please send it to me and I'll forward it to the
UW alumni assoc. (I found their address).

Tom Rowe
UW Center for Dairy Research
Madison, WI 53706	| Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
wk 608-265-6194	| in places even more inaccessible
hm 608-243-8660

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:10:47 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Weber Carb Tuning

 Stuart H. Moore <smoore@acc.roanoke.edu> writes:
>      A friend has a weber carb. conversion on his series III and
 is having problems with hesitation and general rotten running. 
 Does anyone out there have a book on the carb. that would have good
 directions on how to properly tune it.

 Pierce USA makes an intake manifold for the LR 2.25L engine using
 the Weber carburetor.  These guys are Weber specialists for all cars
 and have replacement parts and jets for proper tuning.  They also
 have a Weber rebuild, diagnosing and tuning book for about $20 which
 is "The Bible".  Contact Pierce at Tel. 408-842-6667 or 800-874-3728

 These guys and other high performance US aftermarket manufactures are
 listed on the Land-Rover Connection WWW page maintained by Mike Hoskins
 at  http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

                          ______
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                     Rumpole of the Bay
 cs@crl.com               [________]                            '65 IIA 88
             ___________.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:26:37 -0700
Subject: West Coast Challenge
From: Andre_Maier@mindlink.bc.ca (Andre Maier)

The West Coast Challenge will be on the 14th and 15th of this month near
Deroche(wingdam).
Saturday will be the trials event and it starts at 9 am
Sunday will be the sasquatch traverse run.
Camping is available at wingdam.
For more info call Bill Lange at 430 6991
or Andre Maier at 951 3214 or fax at the same number.

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:03:53 -0600 (CST)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Other British Vehicles

I hope I don't get a lot of hate mail, but I can't find a source of 
Austin parts in North America. Can someone please E-Mail me direct with a 
source State Side or in Britian.  Thanks Dave VE4PN

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Subject: Land Rover Stamps For Sale
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 17:11:58 -0500

Thanks to all of you who have replied to my posting of stamps for sale, 
msg 13608. I am going to extend the dealine though as interest seems to 
be high and I would like to give everyone a chance to get in on it.

So this Friday 13th at midnight will be the deadline.

later, Robin 

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:32:00 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: West Coast Challenge

 Andre Maier <Andre_Maier@mindlink.bc.ca> writes:

>The West Coast Challenge will be on the 14th and 15th of this month near
>Deroche(wingdam).

 The first part of the 'Challenge' is to determine which West Coast.
 Sooo... select a country with <lro@team.net> subscribers:

              1.  Australia
              2.  California*
              3.  Canada
              4.  Germany
              5.  Hong Kong (aka China)
              6.  Netherlands
              7.  New Zealand
              8.  Norway
              9.  South Africa
             10.  Sweden
             11.  Switzerland
             12.  United Kingdom
             13.  United States
             14.  Other (..sorry if I missed any)

 *Not really a country (yet!), but hey, with the world's seventh largest
  economy...

-Michael (If it's Tuesday it must be... ?) Carradine
 cs@crl.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:14:09 -0400
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Richmond Raves Rover Rally

Just got my copy of the last week's Richmond Times Dispatch covering the
Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally. Good story. Good photos. Good work, Sandy.

Chris Stevens                   1969 88" IIA SW 2.25

BCG Corporate Communications
Towson, Maryland, USA
(410) 583-1722
(410) 583-1935 (FAX)
chrisste@Clark.net

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:04:13 -0400
Subject: Re: New Jeep

Mike writes:

      EXACTLY! So, what do we do??? Draw and quarter this guy's Jeep?? 

Naw, just wait and it will rust itself away.  <g>
     

spenny

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Date: 11 Oct 95 00:08:11 EDT
From: Leslie Stutsman <100042.254@compuserve.com>
Subject: Bat Fastards

Having bought bulk orders from many outfits in England, I can categorically tell
you that Bat Fastards is the lowest grade quality in the industry.  Although
they handle calls very businesslike,  they do not meet promised deadlines.  The
owner of the LandRover Supermarket and Bat Fastards were once partners, and
started Bat Fastards to try and meet the low end market demand.  I have seen
springs from them, and although they are made in England, they are definately
not made of British Steel or to British Specs.  The price does reflect that
fairly, as you get what you pay for.  My suggestion to you : changing them is a
pain - pay the extra and get the quality!  Good Luck!

Cheers

Leslie 

'56 Series I 86" Trialer     "Big Bird"
'58 Series II 88"              "Scouser"
'69 Series IIa 109 5 door   "Cheez burger"  in paradise

For Sale
'62 Series IIa 109 regular  "Everton"
'65 Series IIa Military 88"  "Cedrych"

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John C. White III" <jcwhite3@well.com>
Subject: Re: West Coast Challenge

Well, Andre's e-mail address ends in "ca," which is Canada.  I'll guess 
Canada.

What do I win?

Cheers!
John
San Francisco, California "Republic"

(Well it says "California Republic" on the state flag.)

On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Michael Carradine wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>  Andre Maier <Andre_Maier@mindlink.bc.ca> writes:
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> -Michael (If it's Tuesday it must be... ?) Carradine
>  cs@crl.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:22:31 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: West Coast Challenge

 John C. White III <jcwhite3@well.com> writes:

>Well, Andre's e-mail address ends in "ca," which is Canada.  I'll guess 
>Canada.

 Oooh poo!!  A correct answer already.  I knew you couldn't get it by
 the town/area names mentioned ---too obscure, or by the country or area
 codes given ---there weren't any!  Actually I was hoping all that smoke
 about "CA"lifornia would be diversionary (Rovers are too smart for that!).

>What do I win?

 A personal invitation to visit with Andre at the West Coast Challenge,
 and to do a write-up with photos for the lro list, Left Coast Rover list,
 Aluminum Workhorse, Rover Runner, Ottowa Valley Newsletter, LRO and LRW.

 Congradulations!!!  You have met the first 'Challenge'.

-Michael (If it's Tuesday it must be... ?) Carradine
 cs@crl.com

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:14:22 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Say it ain't so, Jimmy?

 Jimmy,

 Could you quell the rumor that as your first official act as new editor
 of LROA/NA's Aluminum Workhorse you plan on renaming this classic magazine
 and correct it's title to 'Birmabright Workhorse'??

 Anxiously waiting,
                           _____
 Michael Carradine        [__[__\==                     Rumpole of the Bay
 cs@crl.com               [________]                            '65 IIA 88
             ___________.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover Connection 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:35:12 +1200
From: jawa@i-max.co.nz (leonard john hobart)
Subject: Booby trap

I was preparing Loftys new frame in the garage this evening while he sulked
out in the car port. The frame appeared mint, (ex 79 LWB diesel) but I have
found one area of corrosion under the battery shelf, the battery obviously
has leaked at some stage. this area is around the steering box slave thingy
that goes through the front cross member, so it needs to be repaired
correctly. Well I proceded to undo these tiny bolts, top and bottom and 2
long bolts that hold a casting to the frame. A bit of oil leaked,..... well,
the next thing was to give it a bit of tap with a soft hammer. Did you know
that inside that gizzmo there is this bloody great spring. (and other
things) It flew apart and scattered the parts all over the garage.   Well
now I've been and changed some items of clothing, and had a smoke I have a
few questions.

1. Is this a common area for rust

2. Could somebody tell me how to get the cast steel body out of the cross
member, (it's stuck)

3. How will I compress the spring to get this thing-a-ma-jig back together again

thanks in advance

John 

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