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1 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 23 | US Aftermarket Parts |
2 | Richard Jones [rich@apri | 38 | Re: Classic vs. Disco |
3 | jawa@i-max.co.nz (leonar | 8 | oops |
4 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 15 | LRO Digest Syndrome |
5 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 17 | Re: attempt four |
6 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 39 | '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers. |
7 | Chris Haslam [haslam@alc | 16 | Re: '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers. |
8 | jjbpears@ix.netcom.com ( | 32 | Re: RR gearbox problems |
9 | Danny Phillips [danny@tl | 11 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
10 | Danny Phillips [danny@tl | 18 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
11 | John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv | 13 | Re: Classic vs. Disco |
12 | ShaunC8958@aol.com | 12 | The RR lean |
13 | John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv | 28 | Re: The RR lean |
14 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 31 | US Made Leaf Springs!! |
15 | Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A | 19 | Re: The RR lean |
16 | "Soren Vels Christensen" | 31 | Re: attempt four |
17 | Daniel Polak [daniel@sys | 18 | best off road Land Rover |
18 | (Tom Rowe) [trowe@ae.age | 22 | vanity |
19 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 27 | Re: IIA to III transmission swap |
20 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 38 | Re: RR gearbox probs |
21 | EvanD103@aol.com | 15 | Re: Upholstery Bargain Deals |
22 | Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs. | 11 | Esarco |
23 | vogel@shrsys.hslc.org | 18 | How New FAA Regs Effect Land Rovers |
24 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 26 | Re: Financing an older Land Rover |
25 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 28 | Re: Financing an older Land Rover |
26 | rover@europa.com (Brad K | 25 | Cool (or uncool) Starting Problems |
27 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 58 | Re: best off road Land Rover |
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 01:12:46 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: US Aftermarket Parts US Rovers, The Land-Rover 4x4 Connection Aftermarket Parts list for Series Land Rovers has grown to over 30 items (big deal!), and now includes High Performance Products with manufacturer listings for the Mallory distributor, Weber carburetor, Pierce manifold, Clifford header, Rimmer Bros. SS exhaust system, and Centerforce clutch (BIG DEAL!! :) Author/listmaster Mike Hoskins of Mid-America Rover, Kansas City Phone/Fax 816-763-3797, invites comments, corrections, and particularily additions of proven aftermarket parts to the list. Find the list at http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html -Michael Carradine Rumpole of the Bay cs@crl.com '65 IIA 88 _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Richard Jones <rich@apricot.mee.com> Subject: Re: Classic vs. Disco Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 10:03:53 +0100 (BST) John Brabyn writes: > Richard -- is it true that after stating the Classic would be available > into the forseeable future, Land Rover is discontinuing it in February? My understanding (some fact, some speculation) is that the production future of the Calssic will be reviewed at the end of the year, but if no further "fleet type" contracts have been received production will stop in February. > Hard to believe people are actually buying that new nondescript looking > thing they have transferred the Range Rover name to!!! The New Range Rover has been around for 12 months now, and is being produced at I believe 400 units per week (against 70-80 Classics), all of which must be going somewhere. There is a lot of re-construction going on at the Factory currently and they are extremely short of space. I suspect that the thinking is that the Classic line space can be better utilised by a modern less labour intensive (read here quicker build per unit) line building something else. > (Of course I'm not at all biased!) Looks like the new Range Rover's long term success depends more on its reliabilty than its looks. If at 2-4 years of age the technology is still all working reliably it will succeed, if not keep that Classic of yours in good shape it will become even more collectable. __ _ __ Apricot Computer Limited ' ) ) / 3500 Parkside Tel: (+44) 121 717 7171 /--' o _. /_ Birmingham Business Park Fax: (+44) 121 717 0123 / <_<_(__/ <_ BIRMINGHAM B37 7YS Richard Jones United Kingdom Email: richardj@apricot.mee.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:29:57 +1200 From: jawa@i-max.co.nz (leonard john hobart) Subject: oops er sorry about those other two messages, I think I have got the hang of now regards john :-} ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: LRO Digest Syndrome Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 07:58:00 DST The syndrome strikes again! Just back from Mid Atlantic and catching up on my mail I read of front prop shaft sleeves that shed themselves from the shaft. I go home and while checking bodily fluids what do I see but a front prop shaft with two hose clips and some tatty rubber bits attached. HAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR SLEEVE LATELY. If you read it here it will probably happen to you. Trevor Easton and Miss Golightly with a naked shaft (oohh, la,la) ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: attempt four Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 14:06:28 BST > To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net [ truncated by lro-digester (was 22 lines)] > (Loftys) fuel tank, does anybody else feel this way? would there be a > >Subject: Keep practising,you're getting better:-) I beleive rear mounted tanks are available for 109 models.May be necessary to fit a different exhaust system though,I'm not sure. 'Course,you *could* always change to diesel:-} Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 07:34:05 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers. Chris, You asked if I had checked the voltage, and I'm embarrassed to say, no. I have a digital VOM that I could have used, but I never suspected the alternator. As I wrote before, my only clue that this *might* be a concern was that at idle, the "charge" light glowed very dimly. (Only noticeable at night, and went off when you gave it some gas.) Nobody has responded to my question from yesterday, at least not that I've read in the digest yet. Anyone ever install a "Lock-Right" locker in a LR? Any hints? How difficult/easy?? Do I need new gaskets or can I use the "blue goo" or the "red goo" silicon type gasket maker/sealer. Thanks, P.S. A rover sighting from 2 weeks ago... I saw a tan (maybe white?) 109 in San Diego on the weekend of Sep. 23. Anyone on the "net"? #=====# #========# -------,___ ________ |___|__\___ |___|__|__\___ |--' | | \_|_ /__/__|__\___ | _ | |_ |} | _ | | |_ |} | _ |--+--|_ | \_/-\_|__/-\_|} "(_)""""(_)" "(_)"""""""(_)" ||_/_\___|__/_\_|} (_) (_) (_) (_) 1971 "88" IIa 1970 "109" IIa 1994 Discovery (Sold) '87 Range Rover LIC: LION B8 Historic plates (Too hard to "draw") $8500 bargain #=======# ________ We make a living by what we get, |__|__|__\___ /__/__|__\___ we make a life by what we give. | _| | |_ |} \_/-\_|__/-\_|} "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Winston Churchill ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 10:58:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: Re: '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers. > You asked if I had checked the voltage, and I'm embarrassed to say, no. Sorry I didn't pick up on your mention of the faint ignition light: I've been very busy (I am a lone consultant), and mental fatigue sets in after a while! I seem to think that I did mention "alternator", but I didn't have time to think thru the whys and wherefores. Glad to hear the RR is on the road and happy again. ...chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 08:48:15 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Re: RR gearbox problems You wrote: Date: 04 Oct 95 19:01:45 EDT From: Mark Talbot <71035.3215@compuserve.com> Subject: RR gearbox probs All, Anyone comment on this. I just took the RR for a quick off-roading. I tried to get the thing into low range and nothing happened when I pushed the lever forward. It appears that it is stuck in HIGH range, luckily !!! Anyone had a similar prob, not getting into low range. I suspect something has snapped or broken, stopping the lever to engage low range, the diff lock still works. Mark Is this a relatively new RR? I had a lot of difficulty getting my D90 (not exactly the same but perhaps close enough) to engage low the first few times I used it. I also had difficulty switching between lock on unlock. It seems that the mechanism needs a little bit of working in. At about 36K now on the vehicle changes are pretty smooth. Will it engage when you just release the clutch a bit and let things rotate or is it a total refusal to engage (or do you have an automatic)? Cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 16:59:27 BST I am hoping that this note gets through, if it does the chap who is having problems with power when he puts his boot down, may i suggest that you check both the leads, and the fuel pump, i have had to sort this out on my iia and she now runs great. in fact she will out accelelerate a ferrari (well in a plowed feild anyway.) ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Danny Phillips <danny@tlpgate.lonpar.co.uk> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 17:13:17 BST By the way sorry if this is rude just butting in but, a chap was talking about max revs in a landie the other day. although no help to him i would just like to let you know what the final arguement in the triumph six club 'when does a piston reach maximum velocity' was. the chap wrote, 'a piston reaches max revs and max velocity in any engine when you are racing from the lights, miss second hit 12000rpm and the number four piston goes ballistic and number one is in your lap'. the editors comment was 'nuff said no more letters on this subject please'. makes me smile when i think about it and the guys in my lr club thought it was hilarious. p.s. sorry about the poor spelling and english, i speak as badly as i type... ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 09:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org> Subject: Re: Classic vs. Disco Thanks for the info about the Classic's future or lack thereof Richard. Hope my tongue in cheek remarks about the new RR didn't offend anyone -- I may even get one myself one day, you never know!! Cheers John Brabyn 89RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ShaunC8958@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:56:01 -0400 Subject: The RR lean My '88 Range Rover leans noticeably to the right. The shocks are a bit old but the suspension seems otherwise in good repair. A mechanic says it's *supposed* to lean because the coil springs are different sizes on the right or left. But it seems to lean worse than it used to. Will new shocks help the lean? Or springs??? --Shaun Carrigan ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org> Subject: Re: The RR lean On Thu, 5 Oct 1995 ShaunC8958@aol.com wrote: > My '88 Range Rover leans noticeably to the right. The shocks are a bit old > but the suspension seems otherwise in good repair. A mechanic says it's > *supposed* to lean because the coil springs are different sizes on the right > or left. But it seems to lean worse than it used to. Will new shocks help the > lean? Or springs??? This problem does seem to get worse with age -- personally I think the spring lengths were miscalculated by some engineer in Solihull!! New shocks won't make any difference, but new springs will. I replaced my rear ones with 2 new left hand rear springs -- being both the same length and slightly longer than the right hand ones. I haven't tried doing anything to the front yet -- but the above certainly helped. On the front there is almost an inch difference in the lengths, some of which may be needed to compensate for the slight off-center engine location. Cheers John Brabyn 89RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 12:28:24 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: US Made Leaf Springs!! =========================== HOT FLASH!!! =========================== US Rovers, Leaf springs for Series Land Rover and other vehicles are available right here in the US direct from the manufacturer Young's Springs, Inc. in Rutland, Vermont, Tel 802-773-7237. Bob Kirback at Young's Springs makes leaf springs for both the 88's and 109's. The springs are made from manganese based steel which has very good flexure and requires to remain oiled, while the Land Rover springs are water tempered. Kirback estimates a pair of 88 rear leaf springs cost about US$130, plus freight. Young's Springs, Inc. is listed in the the Land-Rover 4x4 Connection Aftermarket Parts list under High Performance Products. The complete list is maintained by author/listmaster Mike Hoskins of Mid-America Rover, Kansas City Phone/Fax 816-763-3797, who invites comments, corrections, and particularily additions of proven aftermarket parts to the list. Find the complete list at http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html ______ Michael Carradine [__[__\== Rumpole of the Bay cs@crl.com [________] '65 IIA 88 ___________.._(o)__.(o)_______...o^^^^^^ _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> Date: 5 Oct 95 15:29:01 EDT Subject: Re: The RR lean >My '88 Range Rover leans noticeably to the right. The shocks are a bit old >but the suspension seems otherwise in good repair. A mechanic says it's [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >lean? Or springs??? >--Shaun Carrigan First of all, never trust anything with coil springs...8*)... Actually, shocks have no loadbearing virtues - take'em out completely and all it'll do is bounce, not collapse. Sounds to me like you might have a cracked coil spring, or one's fatigued. What kind of shape is the control arm at the botom in? Bad bushing, maybe? -ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:45:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk> Subject: Re: attempt four In message Thu, 5 Oct 95 14:06:28 BST, Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> writes: : Keep practising,you're getting better:-) : I beleive rear mounted tanks are available for 109 models.May be necessary : to fit a different exhaust system though,I'm not sure. : 'Course,you *could* always change to diesel:-} Hello. Lawrence was suffering from incontinence last year, so i changed his 45l rear tank to a 73l stw type tank. All (i think) series Landies have holes in the rear x-member for this. Also (i think) all lwb's have posts to fit the front part of the tank. But they might be difficult to spot unless the frame is really clean. Get the big 73l tank. Mounts in the same points as the 45l. Also, get a filling tube with a cap and a cover that mounts on the inside of the body panel. You'll have to cut a hole in the panel as well. If a tank full of petrol explodes it doesn't matter where the tank is located. I haven't heard of exploding seat tanks in Land-Rovers yet. But i'm interested to learn if such an incident was ever recorded. rgds sv/aurens ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 21:42:00 +0100 From: Daniel Polak <daniel@sys.nl> Subject: best off road Land Rover How do the different Land Rover models compare in off road performance? Is a Defender better than a Discovery? How good is a Range Rover? Where does my Lightweight fit in? Do the latest Land Rover models have the best off road performance or are they just more comfortable on the road? Has this been discussed before on this list (I've just been following it for a month or so)? I would assume that a short wheelbase coil spring model with a powerful engine would be best off road. What is the consensus (if any) on these issues? Daniel ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 15:48:01 EDT From: (Tom Rowe) <trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu> Subject: vanity I'm in the early stages of putting up a web site here, but I've done one of the most important parts and posted a photo of the Antichrist. It's not very good resolution because it was only done with a flatbed scanner. Eventually I'll put up a better one. For now, if you're interested in one of the reasons my sig is what it is look at http://www.cdr.wisc.edu/staff/tomr.htm Actually, as I mentioned, this is a new site. It's running on OS/2. I did have a problem with some browsers not getting a proper link. If it looks weird (the page, not my Land Rover) I'd appreciate feedback (by direct e-mail, NOT via this list). Tom Rowe UW Center for Dairy Research Madison, WI 53706 | Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck wk 608-265-6194 | in places even more inaccessible hm 608-243-8660 ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 05 Oct 95 19:59:59 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: IIA to III transmission swap >> Is this a straight forward task - does anyone know of any pitfalls I >> can avoid ? > take a SIII box and strip all the front stuff off of it, putting > your IIA stuff back in place, leaving you with an "all synchro IIA > transmission." I know Land Rover Owners have a propensity to make simple things complicated - why else would they buy such a vehicle in the first place - , but unless you (and the potential SIG) enjoy having a dismantled gearbox spread over the kitchen table I'd go the simpler and *probably* cheaper way and swap the hydraulic setup for a S.III master-/slave clutch cylinders w/hydraulic tube and hose. You'll have to make and weld in place some sort of bracket where the flexible hose coming from the slave cyl. meets the tube coming from the master. If you leave it dangling freely the tube will break just from the vibrations. See that you move the hydraulic line well away from the exhaust downpipe (difficult actually); heat-reflecting wrapper would be a good idea. Finally, make sure you don't end up with a gearbox from a S.III 6-cyl.! No way it'll fit into a S.II 4-cyl (unless you take it to the kitchen table..) Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 05 Oct 95 19:59:54 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: RR gearbox probs >> get the thing into low range and nothing happened when I pushed the lever >> forward. It appears that it is stuck in HIGH range, luckily !!! Anyone had a >Does the lever move freely? If so I would suspect a broken linkage, if it >was an internal problem the lever would be stuck/hard to move?? Yes, most likely a broken/loose linkage. The internal construction is such that it normally *can't* break (YMMV), unless you run the T-Case w/o oil for a length of time. The lever, being a double-action lever (Hi-Low and diff lock/unlock), consequently also has a double leverage (logic at work...). While the diff- lock mechanism is transmitted via a little sort of inverted U-bolt held in place by a rather flimsy cotter pin (this is much more likely to come off!) the hi-low selection transmits a turning movement to the tapered end of a selector rod protuding from the top cover of the gearbox. The selector lever is fixated to this rod with a solid clamp that is, or should be screwed tight. If for whatever reason the lever has worked itself loose on this rod, it doesn't turn the rod anymore (sufficiently) and you cannot engage low/hi gear properly. This should eventually also make difflock selection troublesome as the loose clamp doesn't offer a secure pivotal point for the difflock mechanism anymore, either. All sounds confusing? Then wait 'till you hear this: The selector lever mechanism is located so high up on the gearbox that it is practically inaccessible unless you pull back and at least partially drop the entire gearbox, which in turn requires dismantling and removal of the RR's entire center console w/ cubby box etc. (not to mention frame crossmember, exhaust and propshafts). (FTI of the Series/Defender crowd: The RR doesn't have those immensely practical openings in the front seat box) Rest assured of my sympathy... Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: EvanD103@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:33:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Upholstery Bargain Deals The October issue of Land Rover World has a tempting ad for seats, door panels, carpet, etc from B.L.R.S. Ltd. (page 66-67 of this issue). I would love to read a testimonial concerning the quality of this stuff. I would really like some input from someone on the left side of the Atlantic who may have ordered from this firm concerning shipping costs, customs duties/hastles. Cheers. Erik van Dyck Stone Mountain, Ga. '73 Ser. III 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:40:42 +1000 From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> Subject: Esarco does anyone know what happened to Esarco? I sent a letter to their 10-year old address and they are `not known' there anymore. Did the company fold? lloyd ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: vogel@shrsys.hslc.org Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 21:26:55 EST Subject: How New FAA Regs Effect Land Rovers The FAA doesn't want us to park our Land Rovers within 300 feet of airport terminals. In its unexplained directive, parking restrictions are said to apply to vehicles over 65 inches tall. My source is the Atlanta Journal, October 4, 1995, via Lexis-Nexis. That newspaper included the "Land Rover Ranger" at 71 inches in its list of terrorist vehicles. As a librarian, I recommend Lexis-Nexis to you. The phrase "Land Rover" produces hits in 5658 articles in the last 2 years. If you are associated with an academic institution, your library may be able to give you access. Tom Vogel 1972 S3 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:20:24 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Financing an older Land Rover > I don't recommend financing a Land-Rover that is going to cost $3,000 or > so. [...] > For a Land-Rover costing $10,000, financing makes more sense. I agree completely, and from experience. > But given the number of Land Rovers selling for $3,000 and > $5,000, and the sort of cult-y nature of the beast, I'm skeptical if a > finance company would loan $10,000 on a Rover. Had no trouble with my credit union. Got 2 appraisals that said it was worth more than I wanted to borrow (I could borrow up to 80% of the value) and signed a lot of papers. Voila. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:20:27 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Financing an older Land Rover Banks are willing to do a "classic car loan", it's just different. Check around 'til you find someone willing to admit that it can be done. I went through my credit union and had no problem. Here's the thing. because the bank/cu/S&L can't just look the vehicle up in the used car price book, they need some other way to make sure they're not loaning lots of money for something worth nothing. (Remember, if you skip town, they need to be able to sell the vehicle to get their money back.) The way they do this is to have the vehicle appraised by one or more certified appraisers. (My cu wanted 2 appraisals.) The value the appraisers give the car is how much the bank will loan. (My cu loaned me 80% of the appraised value, about typical.) If you're a member of a credit union, start there. Otherwise, work on your bank. If you want, I can send you copies of the appraisals I had done. (and I can offer advice on getting the appraisals too if you want.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 23:51:04 -0700 From: rover@europa.com (Brad Krohn/Deborah Shannon) Subject: Cool (or uncool) Starting Problems Fred: I have a similar on-going problem, although it hasn't begun to show its face this year. Additional symptoms include occasional backfiring if you try to "goose" the engine to life on the road before it's warm. Seems to me to be related to the silly single-bbl Weber carb, and the lack of any pre-heating of the fuel before it hits the cold cylinders. Just flat out doesn't burn very well until the manifold gets warm and helps it along. Believe this is one reason the pre-heater is on the other carbs. Carbs aren't my specialty, so someone correct me if I'm way off... <brad> rover@europa.com '68 IIA 88 "Bugeye" ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 08:40:15 +0000 Subject: Re: best off road Land Rover > How do the different Land Rover models compare in off road performance? Wildly! > Is a Defender better than a Discovery? How good is a Range Rover? Where > does my Lightweight fit in? [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > I would assume that a short wheelbase coil spring model with a powerful > engine would be best off road. First part last.. If I was to swap my 109, 2.25p with a club-members 90V8 super- trialer, he would still beat me hands down. The skill of the driver is *far* more important than the ability of the vehicle. The best: You can't really divvy the LR products up like this - they are specifically aimed at different markets. In terms of performance, these are the guides to use: o Short wheelbase makes a more manouverable vehicle (good off-road), a long wheelbase smoths out the roughness of the terrain (makes for more comfort on-road). o Coils have more travel than leafs, so they are more flexable and less likely to cross-axel. o Coils are more pliant that leafs, so the ride is smoother. o V8 engines have more torque and HP that the 2.25, so are less likely to stall crossing an obstacle. o The Series vehicles are much easier to self-maintain & repair than their newer brothers & sisters. o Range Rovers are built and aimed at the luxury market. o Discoveries are built and aimed at the leasure market. o Defenders are built and aimed at the utility market. o Series vehicles were built and aimed at the "self-sufficient farmer" market. o The 90SU was built specifically to compete in the US Sports/Ute market, where power and pose are important. o Petrol engines suffer badly from getting wet, diesels will work in very wet conditions, so long as they can get dry air in. So - if you want an easy-to-maintain, manouverable, vehicle - and you arn't too concerned about comfort, get a series vehicle. The series I 80" behing the ultimate. - If you want comfort above all else, get a range Rover. - If you want some comfort and manouverability, chop a Range Rover V8 down to 80" Just my $0.02 ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> Hero Figure: BOFH.. ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951006 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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