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1 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu54An Oily Wad Problem Solved
2 sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM 214 door tilts
3 William Caloccia [calocc32[not specified]
4 sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM 30Fuel tanks
5 sac4@cornell.edu (Stephe16Jump Seats in a D90?
6 jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben15who had the v8 for sale?
7 BobandSueB@aol.com 26RE: Chris's 87 RR alternator
8 Treit Le [Treit_Le@appri16The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
9 crash@merl.com 16ABS versus Lock-Right
10 Treit Le [Treit_Le@appri14New models - US
11 jeff@purpleshark.com (Je70"The Middy"
12 jeff@purpleshark.com (Je31Re: Radio placement
13 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu14Celeb Owner(But probably not Driver)
14 jeff@purpleshark.com (Je36Unwanted oil transfer question.
15 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em15Re: Unwanted oil transfer question.
16 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em50Re: "The Middy"
17 John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv27Re: best off road Land Rover
18 jhoward@atlas.usno.navy.17Vacuum advance
19 JHobbs151@aol.com 25LRO
20 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em22Re: best off road Land Rover
21 John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv25Re: best off road Land Rover
22 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca68[not specified]


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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: An Oily Wad Problem Solved
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 9:37:39 BST

After five years (or perhaps longer) I've at last solved
an ongoing problem on my 1970 88" Oily Wadder.
Basically,it was the ride.Pitchy.Neck snappingy pitchy.
I expect a bit of the Nodding Donkey effect,but not this
imitation of a sozzled kangaroo.It wasnt the springs,shockers,
or anything like that.Couldnt be,could it,*much* too simple,
oh yes.Generally,the ride seemed smoother when it rained(A
frequent occurence over here)but then again,the phenomenon
wasnt particularly evident during our Ozzy type summer this
year.
Howver,a couple of weeks ago,it got *really* vicious.So bad
that we had thrust reversal in the driveline when it bounced.
Now I know our roads are bad,but this is ridiculous,and I began
to fear for the halfshafts.That bad.In fact,I had almost resigned
myself to attempting to replace the front engine mounts,thinking
perhaps they were so soft the engine was rocking and messing up
the throttle linkage(it does).
THEN...yesterday,on my way home at lunchtime,approaching a roundabout
at a heady forty knots,I took my foot off the throttle,like any good
Oily Wadder expecting,quite justifiably in my view,NOT to have to use
any artificial means of retarding my velocity.Thats what oil burners
are for.Brakes?Who needs 'em.Horrors!No reduction in forward momentum!
Throttle stuck open.Oh dear(I thought),the while jamming on the anchors,
What Fun.Using my Audible Means Of Approach(consisting mainly of shouting
"Get out of the bloody way you stupid lump of Japanese crap or I'll
marmalize yer"),the hazard(challenge?)was successfully negotiated.
Wiggling the hand throttle returned the engine to its normal behaviour
pattern,best described as sleepy,and I proceeded upon my merry way.
Suitably fortified with lunch,I reluctantly considered returning to
this noble seat of learning,the better to earn another crust,when,on
starting up,THE BLOODY THING DID IT AGAIN!
Investigation showed that the pull-off spring on the distributor
pump had resigned its commission.Bust.Knackered.
So,in the best Land Rover tradition,I re-bent the offending end
of the spring and replaced it.Magic!The ride is,dare one say it,
smooth.Its a different vehicle.Tickover is now slow and even,smoke
generation halved,and due to a rather short spring,acceleration
is down.I assume that this spring,always a bit of a pathetic looking
object,was actually *always* stretched to the point that it was
doing little good.Who knows?I might even buy a new one.
Is it perhaps no coincidence that CAV,the makers of the distributor
pump,are now owned by Joe Lucas and friends?I for one,would never
have thought that a miserably insignificant bit of twisted wire
could have the effect it has.
So if you've got a 2.25 Oily Wadder that imitates a wallaby,have
a long look at the pump pull off spring.It may be worth your while.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 09:35:54 BST
Subject: 4 door tilts

I can't remember who, but somebody was asking about 4 door tilts.  As far as
I know they were never sold, but on the cover of this months Land Rover
International is a photo of a swiss army prototype 100 inch coiler.

The truck has 4 doors and a full tilt.  The only description of it is that
it was botched from a normal tilt.  They didn't state the staring point but
it had a very short rear load area and a very long bit over the doors so
I would have thought that starting from scratch would be the easiest thing to
do.

The LR is on display at Dunsford (near Guildford) if anybody wants to look.

No mention of the technicalities such as door frame supports were mentioned.

Steve Reddock

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Subject: Re: Range Rover Springs 
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 06:13:58 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

Well, when I acquired my two door, it had a distinct lean to the offside
(oy ! that's even when I wasn't in the vehicle !) and one for Ripleys,
the front was so far down that at the full upward angle of the headlamps
they were still wicked short on their throw.

So the first done was replacing the front springs, and some related bits. 
After some consulting with available  resources, I decided to go with
'normal' rear springs - reckoned to be the 'heavy duty' option for the 
front.  The ones they yanked out were differing in height by a couple
inches and the taller, left-hand one was still a couple inches shorter than
the replacement ones.

At this point the vehicle had a definite lean to the rear, and at the rear
to the offside.  So then the rear springs were replaced with slighly used
(so says limey in exile) rear HD springs.  Now I could get about 15 litres
more fuel in the tank and the vehicle mearly appears to have the 'normal' 
rearward rake of your classic Range Rover. (Then again maybe the floor jack,
second spare and box of spanners way back there push it down a bit.) 

I don't know if I'd do heavy duty front springs again, but I think it really
needs HD rears anyway.

    Cheers,
	--bill	caloccia@Team.Net	http://www.senie.com/billc/

      1  3     dl OD  L           "Land Rover's first, because
      |--|--+  o  |   |            Land Rovers last."
      2  4  R  ul N   H           '72 Range Rover

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From: sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 12:26:51 BST
Subject: Fuel tanks

Hi, there was a letter to LRO some time ago about the dangers of underseat
fuel tanks.  The response (which all makes sense to me) was that it is
actually quite a safe place to put it.

A huge majority of road smashes are end to end, so in the middle is quite a
safe place.  Side impacts are not quite so good however.  I can't remember
the exact numbers but side impacts are much less likely to occur than end to
ends.

As has been said, if the tank goes up then it doesn't make much difference
where you are in the car.  Diesels are safer in this respect, and as they go
so slowly you are unlikely to do any damage if you did have an accident.

OK I was only joking about the speed of diesels, please do not fill my reader
with pro-diesel notes.

I think my tank is quite safe as it sits in the back between the wheel arches
about 1 foot from the bulkhead, and leaves a handy storage space that stops
things wandering around the back.  At least it is now quite safe, the previous
owner had not bolted it to anything! It was held in place by the pipes!

Surely this is the spot to end all spots.

Steve Reddock, Lightweight

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:06:04 -0500
From: sac4@cornell.edu (Stephen A. Church)
Subject: Jump Seats in a D90?

Is it possible to put jump seats in the back of a D90?  Has anyone out
there done this?  A friend of mine recently acquired a D90 with no backseat
and he isn't a big fan on the dealer backseat option.  He did like the jump
seats in the back of the Discoveries he had looked at prior to purchasing
the D90, though.  Another friend of ours had an old Jeep Scrambler with
jump seats from an old Land Cruiser that worked well, and we were wondering
if anyone had done something similar to their D90 or Series LR?  Is it
safe?  Is it practical?  Any experience, opinions, thoughts, etc.,
appreciated.  TIA.

Steve Church

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 09:26:51 EDT
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: who had the v8 for sale?

Hi All:

I remember someone had 3 Buicks/Olds/Rover v8's for sale,
one or more where built-up.  I seem to remember it was
in the NorthEast (US). NJ? NY?

Who was it, and are they still there?

Thanks
Jan

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:01:57 -0400
Subject: RE: Chris's 87 RR alternator

.SUBJECT: '87 RR Alternator, and Lock-Right lockers.
.Chris,
>.
.You asked if I had checked the voltage, and I'm embarrassed to say, no. .I
.have a digital VOM that I could have used, but I never suspected the
.alternator. As I wrote before, my only clue that this *might* be a concern
.was that at idle, the "charge" light glowed very dimly. (Only noticeable at
.night, and went off when you gave it some gas.)

Hi,
I had a the same problem on a Pontiac delco alternator.(dim light at idle)
During diagnosing of the problem, I hooked up an oscilloscope to the output
and saw a pulse on the dc. looking at a friends heathkit auot analyzer
manual, showing what the output should be, It put the blame on a triple diode
block that cost 3 or 4 dollars. After replacing the diodes, the output was
smooth 12v dc (actually about 14.4).
So if you had the same problem, the pulses on the dc and the lower output as
a result would be the cause of problems.

Bob B

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From: Treit Le <Treit_Le@apprise.com>
Date:  6 Oct 95 10:23:18 
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

John Brabyn writes:
>  Richard -- is it true that after stating the Classic would be available 
>  into the forseeable future, Land Rover is discontinuing it in February?

>From my geocentric point-of-view (US), Land Rover had said that they would stop 
importing the Classic when weekly production went under 100. I guess that this 
has happened, because when I called Land Rover (1-800-FINE4WD) recently, they 
confirmed that the Classic was discontinued, but that some dealers in the US 
may have them in stock. Dealers are unloading them at deep discounts, in some 
cases 25% less than a 4.0 SE.

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From: crash@merl.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:19:22 -0400
Subject: ABS versus Lock-Right

I have a question for anyone with a Lock-Right in a car
with antilock brakes (ABS)

Do the two fight each other?  Does the ABS still function
correctly or do they interfere?

	-Bill Yerazunis

[my windshield wipers started working again.  Therefore, 
something important is about to break.]

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From: Treit Le <Treit_Le@apprise.com>
Date:  6 Oct 95 10:57:47 
Subject: New models - US

Check out the November Road & Track, page 183 for you newstand readers. It 
features pictures and writeups on the 4.6HSE and the D90SW. The 4.6SE is out of 
my price range, unfortunately at $62K, comes with 18" Ferrari (look-a-like) 
wheels and 225hp/280lbs torque. The D90 SW comes with the 3.9, aluminum hardtop 
w/ sunroof, less-utilitarian interior and from the picture, about 1/2 a safari 
cage. It looks nice, sort of a rear Disco clip welded to a front D90 clip. 
Price is $32K, and they can only be imported til 12/31/1995. Anybody know why? 
3.9 emissions perhaps?

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:56:37 -0400
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: "The Middy"

Just wanted to throw my two cents worth into the pot about this years
Mid-Atlantic.  Hats off to Sandra, Sandy, Nancy, Mike, and everyone else
who worked so hard at making this thing a success!  Others have documented
the happenings, so I'll stick to a few personal impressions.

It was great seeing "old faces" again, as well as meeting new Roverfriends,
including but not limited to Chris Stevens, David Bobeck, Will Hadley (and
the lovely Marybeth), Dixon and Dale, and the *other* Connecticut Gang.

It's interesting to note that in person Dixon is much younger than he
appears on the printed page, and that there are at least a few "Yanks" who
can keep up with he and Dale on the beer consumption front.  Since they
proved that they can keep even with me, I went ahead and joined the Ottawa
Vally club, and I hope to make it up for the B-day bash.

Sad but true, the draught did leave the trials course a wee bit lacking.  I
know that the ROAV did its best, they were trucking water down to the
mudhole when Bill Maloney and I arrived on Friday afternoon.

Robert Davis' Mercruiser conversion is an engineering marvel that must be
seen to be appreciated.  He also had a very nice Dormmobile that's for
sale.  (Oh how I wish...)  I'm sorry to say that I didn't get a chance to
check out Duncan Brown's Turner engine, though I "*met* he and his son
shortly after the bee sting incident.  (Duncan: I was the guy hovering over
the lad, quietly watching for signs of shock.  VERY glad my worst fears
didn't prove true, but you only have to watch one allergic person get "hit"
to carry pictures around for life.)

Riding in the 101FC was great fun.  As Jared lives in the "hood", I hope to
see more of this vehicle.  I also enjoyed watching over Quintens shoulder
as he piloted the 80" through the trials course.  I'm definitely going to
work up the nerve to take my Rover through one of these years, probably as
soon as I own a second vehicle of some type.

Yes, my oil filler tube is now properly capped again.  I added a chain to
the assembly, so I hope to avoid the Coke can in future years.

I hope to be assembling some of my photographs (though the tree incident,
photographed using my camera will remain unpublished - the shot came out
miraculessly well framed considering the photographer claimed to have her
eyes closed) and text into a photo essay that I hope Ray will publish via
the Roverweb.  If you'd like to contribute some text, or photos, we can
make it a collaberative project.  Please contact me back-channel.

Thanks to everyone who said nice things about my toolbox.  I'm narcassistic
enought to really appreciate it.

John Humphries - The music was great!

Special thanks, as always, to Bill Maloney for leading the way, and for
putting up with those of us with limited technical knowledge and 12 gallon
gas tanks.

Hope to see everyone down there next year.

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       Jimmy Buffett
==                                                                 ==

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:56:30 -0400
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Re: Radio placement

Jan Ben writes:
> Also, can you recommend a place to fit a radio?

As I have a ragtop, I put my radio in an aluminum enclosure mounted under
the dash.  It used to have a lexan "bubble" cover over it, but I broke that
this winter and haven't gotten around to replacing it yet.  Also, the
faceplate removes for security.

My "one-hander" CB - all controls in the microphone - mounted on the
bulkhead behind the heater vent.

A picture detailing the above is available on the Roverweb.  Back-channel
EMAIL me if you need the URL and I'll look it up.  Regards.

Keep on Roverin'

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       Jimmy Buffett
==                                                                 ==

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Celeb Owner(But probably not Driver)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 15:58:25 BST

John Paul Getty 11 sent his chauffeur in a Disco to pick
up a mongrel dog from the police pound.
Said dog had "shopped" his previous owner(a burglar)by
leading the cops back to his house,whereupon they arrested
him(the bloke not the dog).Well,come to think of it I suppose
they *did* arrest the mutt in a way.Fell on his feet that dog!
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:57:47 -0400
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Unwanted oil transfer question.

As always forgive my lack of technical knowledge (and correct me) if I
bumble this question.

Recently, I'd read in either LRO or LRW that if you open the Filler/Level
plug on your transfer box (later Series IIA) and oil flows out, it's a sign
that oil is flowing through bearing in the gearbox.

I questioned Bill Maloney about this while we were in Virginia, and he
confirmed my diagnosis and mentioned that while my tranny is being pulled
for repairs, I should have a double bearing installed.  He offered to
provide me with details and a part number upon our return.

Unfortunately, Bill is vacationing "on the road" for a couple of weeks, and
won't be able to EMAIL me the info.  Can anyone shed some light on the
details of this process?  Also, I've been unable to locate the original
pointer in my recent back issues of LRO/LRW.  If anyone can provide a
pointer to that blurb, I'd be most greatful.

Regards, and thanks as always for tolerating a "mechanically
differently-abled" Rover owner.

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       Jimmy Buffett
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Unwanted oil transfer question.

On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> Recently, I'd read in either LRO or LRW that if you open the Filler/Level
> plug on your transfer box (later Series IIA) and oil flows out, it's a sign
> that oil is flowing through bearing in the gearbox.

	Interesting...  Have to check that some day.  Right now the flow
	of oil is faster through the front and rear of the transfer box
	Hmmm, If I over fill the gearbox,and presume it is leaking, I 
	won't have to worry about the transfer box running dry as soon!

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:36:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: "The Middy"

On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> appears on the printed page, and that there are at least a few "Yanks" who
> can keep up with he and Dale on the beer consumption front.  Since they
> proved that they can keep even with me, I went ahead and joined the Ottawa
> Vally club, and I hope to make it up for the B-day bash.

	You hit us at a low point after many hours of driving.  To wit, 
	while we were at the site for 37 hours, we spent 42 getting there 
	and back (yeah, yeah, nothing compared to what Ben "the road is
	my bride" Smith does.  7,000+ miles in two weeks in his SIII)
	The springs in the Saab are still complaining about that diesel
	engine we tossed in the back are brought back to Canada.  However,
	beerwise, you gotta see Dale in action.  He and Jon Humphrey
	(your best champion I have seen yet)  can put on quite a tag
	team effort with rather amusing results...  

	Birthday Party bash is smaller than Sandy's effort (an incredible
	effort that we wouldn't want to try and duplicate) but has slightly
	more exposed granite bedrock and a lot more mud.  Different events.
	Both very worthwhile & I note that next year BSROA's Fall Heritage
	will be on a different weekend from the ROAV Mid-Atlantic.  A double
	header in the end of September/beginning of October.  Downeast
	Rally at Owl's Head Maine has been scheduled for July 6-7 weekend
	next year

> Thanks to everyone who said nice things about my toolbox.  I'm narcassistic
> enought to really appreciate it.

	So where does the Jackall go?  (Note:  This toolbox is *big*, holds
	a ton of stuff, and blends in very well behind the front seats of 
	the 88".

> John Humphries - The music was great!

	And I understand the little Sheltie dog of his... :-)

> Hope to see everyone down there next year.

	Quite an event.  People from Dixieland Rovers, the Blue Ridge Club,
	and OVLR all there.  Next year I'll arrive in a 109 and not an 80"
	keeping the Saab well away from your towing abilities...  Of course,
	several people are planning on an arms escalation with potato
	guns.  Still like the big storefront sign that showed Dale and I
	we were getting close.  It read "BEER, PORK, & GUNS"...

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: best off road Land Rover

On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Mr Ian Stuart wrote:
(in response to the query on "best off-road" Land Rover
...
> So - if you want an easy-to-maintain, manouverable, vehicle - and you
>     arn't too concerned about comfort, get a series vehicle. The
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>    - If you want some comfort and manouverability, chop a Range Rover
>    V8 down to 80"

Seems like this question should at least spark off a lively debate!
Sounds like the original inquirer has a Series vehicle already (a 
Lightweight), so he's in good shape!

Actually, I think each model has some legitimate claim to being the best 
at some aspect of off-road performance. The Series I 80" may be the 
ultimate for simple maintenance and manoeverability, but all the other 
models have situations in which they too are the ultimate off road.

Cheers

John Brabyn
89 RR

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 95 11:59 EDT
From: jhoward@atlas.usno.navy.mil (James D. Howard)
Subject: Vacuum advance

I recently converted my SIII from Rochester carburation back to
Zenith.  There is a vacuum leak I have to fix yet, but at the top end
(full throttle down the Interstate), it seems to have more power.
Acceleration seems to be slightly poorer, though.  I was wondering if
I should hook up my vacuum advance?  It was hooked up to the
Rochester, but I have not found where I could hook it to the Zenith,
yet.  This is one of the emission control Zeniths, with the emission
controls removed.  The distributor was changed by the PO from a vacuum
retard to a vacuum advance.

James Howard			jhoward@argus.lowell.edu
1972 SIII 88 "Ephraim"		Flagstaff, Arizona, USA

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From: JHobbs151@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:08:27 -0400
Subject: LRO

I don't intend to upset any Land Rover owners with what follows but must say
that I am becoming increasingly discouraged with the cost of SUVs/off-road
vehicles, etc. All the mfgs seem to be pricing vehicles to the "luxury"
vehicle crowd. The value of a 4WD system sure has increased in the past few
years. Whle Land Rovers are definitely the most rugged, dependable, etc.,
etc. vehicles you can buy, why the high price tags? While I think that the
Discovery is the best all-around SUV for the price, it is still a good $15
above a nice, acceptable 4WD Jeep Cherokee (with no bells and whistles). The
Defender 90 is an extraordinary off-road vehicle, but at $35K, it is easily
$20K higher than a Wrangler, although there is really no comparison between
the two (except that they sort-of look alike). But Jeep also has the Grand
Cherokee available with V8 and frills and you can easily spend $30K on one of
those iof you want to. But, for those with thin wallets, or who can't
rationalize spending $35K on an automobile, Jeep seems to be the only mfg.
that has vehicles available for the "economy consumer. What could Land Rover
accomplish if they could come out with an off-road vehicle in the $20K range?
I have to think they would put a big, big dent in Jeep sales. But, being an
import, it may not be possible to keep the price in that range while keeping
with traditional Land Rover design and reputation intact. Any thoughts?

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:20:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: best off road Land Rover

On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, John Brabyn wrote:

> Actually, I think each model has some legitimate claim to being the best 
> at some aspect of off-road performance. The Series I 80" may be the 
> ultimate for simple maintenance and manoeverability, but all the other 
> models have situations in which they too are the ultimate off road.

	All depends on the terrain...  Last weekend I was trying out
	Quintin Aspen's '51 80" at the Mid-Atlantic Rally.  Impressive
	little vehicle.  My only regret is I didn't get a chance to try
	Jared's 101 and compare the two... :-)  A 101 will certainly get 
	you through some stuff the 80" won't, but the size of the 101
	will be a disadvantage elsewhere.

	One of each please...

	Rgds,

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: best off road Land Rover

On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Dixon Kenner wrote:

> 	All depends on the terrain...  Last weekend I was trying out
> 	Quintin Aspen's '51 80" at the Mid-Atlantic Rally.  Impressive
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> 	you through some stuff the 80" won't, but the size of the 101
> 	will be a disadvantage elsewhere.

Quite right Dixon. But I thought you, as a well known Range Rover fan, 
would have also pointed out the fact that aside from being comfortable, 
the latter is the vehicle of choice when the going gets really sticky!

Seriously, you are right and one of each would be the best!

Cheers

John

John Brabyn
89 RR

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Subject: LAND ROVER STAMPS FOR SALE
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 19:58:33 -0500

As promised here is a listing of stamps for sale.

They are a surplus to my needs. I have some others coming soon, how soon 
I dont know.

The price beside them is what I want for them, If you really want a 
particular stamp then bid higher for it.

Bidding will close at 6pm 11th oct 95.

when replying with bids, let me know the # (number on the list and how 
much you bid for it. I willkeep track of bids for each stamp. I'll start 
with the highest bidders and work down until we run out for each stamp.

THis should give every one a fair chance to get something.

All stamps are un franked ? cancelled unless otherwise noted. The stamp 
with the Land Rover on it is usualy one of a set of a number of stamps on 
a topic. If I have the set  then it is marked 1 of a set of 4. QTY avail 
is the number of sets of this stamp on hand.

Have fun, Robin

1.  Sahara OCC. stamp and side piece, white 90 Stat wag, LR logo and s3 
109 drawing, 1 of a set of 6  QTY avail 4   cdn $ 5

2. Grenada Red cross anniversary or something, rear of s2 109 / 110 
Forward control going into Herc c 130 1of set of 4, Qty avail 2 at $1.50 
 also individual singfle stamp, qty avail 2  at Cent 75

3 Grenada 1961 postal anniversary ser 2 88 hard top red. 1 of a set of 3 
qty avail 3  at  $1.50  single stamp qty avail 2 at cent 50

4. Swaziland  ser2 109 police anniversary set. 1 of a set of 4. qty avail 
2 at $ 1.75

5 Kenya Highway anniversary two stamps, one 109 SW one 88 SW so two ina 
set of 4, qty avail 4 at $3.50

6 UK 1979, police theme set, ser 3 109 hard top at accidetn scene. 1 of a 
set of 4 . qty avail 4 at $1.75 
extra to above one set franked avail at $1

7 Guernsey Bailiwick, st Johns anniversary, white se 2 109 truck cab pick 
up, towing mobile radar unit. One of a set of 4 qty avail 4 at $1.25

8 Tristan da Cunha, ser 3 109 sw , 1of a set of 4, qty avail 6 at $3.25

Delivery will be one dollar extra regardless of quantity ordered.

Al prices CDN dollars. accept US checks, will hold order till it clears.

NO cash by mail please.

Bid results after closing date.

Regards

Robin

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Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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