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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:49:53 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: wwweb

I have a copy of Chris Haslam's 1988 Rangie electrics at
    http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/RR/Haslam/
if anyone finds it convenient to get them the web way.
I'll convert all the pcx files to gifs next week (1/8 the size).
Tom - Chris' email address is variously:
   Haslam@ieee.ca    haslam@concordia.ca   haslam@alcor.concordia.ca

btw. I have reorganized my list of rover world wide web links into
   http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Net/Net.shtml
so that they can be searched as part of the database:
   http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Contents/index.html
There is an auto-redirection from the old page to the new one,
but anyone with a link or book-mark might like to update it.

Also anyone with a L-R web page might like to check if I have their entry
and if it is correct.

 any reviews, please ???)

Lloyd
Dept. of Computer Science, Monash University, Clayton, Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA
tel: 61 3 9905 5205      fax: 61 3 9905 5146      email: lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au

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From: Grahame.Harden@BRI.NRC.CA
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 11:20:08 -0400
Subject: ECOFLAW

> Does anyone know anything about the ECOFLOW device?
>>real slamming scientifically and on results

Scientifically, my humble opinion is that the only use for
an ECOFLOW would be place it in the gearbox to catch all the
swarf. No, I have not tried it, I doubt if I could drag up
the money even if I thought it would help. 
I'm heavily into large magnets and molecules, so when I read
about ECOFLOW "orientating and polarising fuel molecules" I
wonder where you get the liquid helium at a petrol station....

I'll lay off the quantum bits and pieces, and just say that I
simply do not see how incorporating permanent magnets in afuel
line achieves anything, BUT if anyone out there (ECOFLOW?) can
provide evidence, I'd love to hear it! A wonderful discussion
about popular magnetochemistry vis-a-vis LR's, I think not.

Back to reality!!!

Can anyone shed light on brake master cylinders...
The heap in question is one of the transitional type, an early
1980 SIII with SLS front brakes (pre-rationalised axle) and a 
servo. Standard diesel 2286, with a flap in the induction manifold
to keep the servo happy. 
I want to dump the flap in the dumpster, along with the servo. Since
I don't have leg muscles, what were the changes to the cylinder
dimensions when LR went servo? What I hope is that all LR did was
to simply step up the bore in the master a bit, and all I have
to do is get an 'earlier' master with a smaller bore to get
some braking back.

Anyone got a part number?

Cheers,

Grahame

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@synapse.net>
Subject: Landy Come Home

This cropped up in the Border Collie List today --- nice to know the dogs
made it but what about the Land Rover!

>In todays Nat. Press is a story about a 10 year old Border Collie who was
stolen 
>along with his 4 year old kennel mate from his owners Land Rover. The thieves 
>took the vehicle and dumped the dogs 60 miles away from their home.   The 
>younger dog was caught two days later and returned to his owner, but the older 
>dog set off alone.  His owner, a shepherd said he knew that the dog would make 
>it home as long as he did not get hit by traffic or shot for worrying
stock. He 
>alerted farmers and gamekeepers along the route.   The dog took 5 days to make 
>the journey back home and was spotted by villagers who recognised him a mile 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>Sue James                             ***  Sooshine Yorkies  ***
>Leicestershire, England                  sue@b-jam.demon.co.uk  

                                                        Rick Grant

rgrant@synapse.net
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: British Cars Digest #1826 Sat Sep 9 01:15:01 MDT 1995 (fwd)

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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:15:01 -0600
From:British-cars-owner@triumph.cs.utah.edu

Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:45:02 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Paul Negyesi <paul@ktud.elte.hu>
Subject: Rover dealerships: changing strategy

Hello,

The head of the Hungarian Rover distributor yesterday held a small press
conference.  Here is a brief outline of his speech. It's very interesting.

In February of 1994 Rover was taken over by BMW. There was fear whether what
will happen about the dealers but BMW promised to not change anything.  So the
Hungarian distributor who also imports Rolls-Royce and Aston Martin built a
fine headquarters designed by engineers at Rover in England.

In 9, May a letter arrived: Due to a changing strategy outlined by BMW 
Rover and Land-Rover distributors will be melted into the BMW channel.
They are asking Valent British Motors (the Hungarian distributor) to stay
as a main dealer because it did a lot to improve the image of Rover in
Eastern Europe. The head of Valent, an English-car-love: Viktor Valker,
who started his business restoring Jaguars and such and currently has
some very fine cars like a first-series Jag E started his lonely fight
against the system. Ultimately he flied to Munich and asked the second
man at BMW to let him remain as importer in Hungary because he thinks
Rovers could not be sold through BMW.

But he could not do anything so yesterday he sent his letter to the
appropriate places: as there will be asking to renew the contracts he
will not do that.

Hopefully my English did not confuse the meaning of the above.

Regards,

Paul

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Paul Negyesi, H-1462 Budapest, P.O. Box 503, HUNGARY
KTUD Specialty car archive: 
ftp://ftp.team.net/ktud/ 	http://www.team.net/www/ktud/

"I have the gun, so I can yell" - Denis Leary in "The Ref"

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 18:45:26 PDT
Subject: Re: 	The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Vehicle is in Boston area.

Jim

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 18:55:08 PDT
Subject: Re: 	Misc.

I dumped my entire message bank yesterday before I could return some emails to 
me!! Hope these people are reading digest:

- The *detuned* 3.9 fellow - It is the 4.0 L motor that is *detuned* from 190 
hp in the 4.0SE Rangey to 182 hp w/higher torque in the `96 Disco. There will 
be *NO* 3.9 V8 in *ANY* 1996 NAS Land Rover model. The 3.9 has been supplanted 
by the 4.0 primarily from an emissions-compliance standpoint.

- The *`95 Rom chipset* for 1995 MY NAS D90 adds basically some emissions 
compliance - the basic `95 setup is somewhat different as there is provision 
for diagnostic hookup for *TEST BOOK.* 

cheerz
Jim - now completely out of control...where do I sign?

`67 2A 88 5.0L Hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L Hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C Diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 (#457/500)
`95 D90 #1958

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From: ecoethic@rcinet.com
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 23:19:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Environmental Sensitivity

I received several thoughtful comments about environmental concerns that make 
me proud to be in this group.

Robert Watson feels that its people that cause most environmental damage and 
it's not the vehicles' fault. I agree to an extent, because every vehicle is operated 
by a person, but some vehicles by their design and capabilities do more damage 
than others, all things being equal. For instance, what size tire does the least 
damage to the soil, a tall narrow one, or a fat low one? Have any scientific 
studies been done under actual off-road conditions?

John White thinks my ideas are unseemly for a conservative place like Tipp 
City, Ohio (Home of Tippecanoe and Tyler too!) and I sound more like a 
Berkeley product. Well, I have never set foot in Berkeley, but I did graduate 
from the most "Western" of the ivy leaguers, Cornell University. I developed 
my environmental ethics over the past fifty years by observing what is 
happening to our world, and becoming alarmed.

Brian Bonner agrees that we "Work" our Rovers and also that the "Tread 
Lightly" message is weak. He thinks we all need to increase efforts in the 
education of offroad users. I agree completely.

Michael Carradine lamented that the recent issue of the "Tread Lightly" 
newsletter was disappointing at the grass roots level and it seems to be a vehicle 
primarily for the merchandising of products. I agree heartily. I am a member too, 
and it is apparent to me that the original idea of the Forest Service people has 
been corrupted for commercial environmental image public relations, especially 
by Jeep. Michael also defended the environmental sensitivity of the German 
Land Rover enthusiasts (Unimog) and is obviously proud of their efforts. I am 
afraid though, that we are greatly outnumbered by all the Jeeps, Broncos, 
Blazers, and Oriental 4X4's that are peopled by individuals that live for the 
moment without regard for the future.

Thanks to you all for responding, I hope we can touch on this subject more in 
the future.

Walt Pokines

Tipp City, Ohio

Happy Eco-Rovering!

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