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1 Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk 33Re: Amateur Radio Callsigns (and more brake questions)
2 JCassidyiv@aol.com 11Koenig Winch For Sale
3 GARCAY@aol.com 18Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
4 Kefi@aol.com 18Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally
5 "Soren Vels Christensen"28Re: ... (and more brake questions)
6 Duncan Brown [DB@CHO004.24On the road again...
7 Rob Bailey [baileyr@cuug22Re: ... (and more brake questions)
8 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A13Re: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)
9 JDolan2109@aol.com 15Back and reading
10 jpappa01@interserv.com 31Re: Lucas
11 David John Place [umplac23Re: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)
12 David John Place [umplac12sand ladders
13 GElam30092@aol.com 41Accessories for the Discovery
14 David Rosenbaum [rosenba23Re: D-90 warranty issues


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Date: Fri,  1 Sep 95 05:40:16 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Callsigns (and more brake questions) 

Rob,

I have a '68 IIA.  As I recall both ends of this pipe have the same 
flare; perhaps yours has been changed some time in the last 32 
years?  They should both be the "flying saucer" shape. 

I looked at the instructions for my flaring kit recently; this 
refers to the flares, both single and double, as being "SAE" 

standard.

I recently posted details of a British manufactured tool to produce 
these flares; let me know if you would like details.
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Tony Chapman
HAWTEC                   Tel: +44 (0)1905 723200
Haswell House            Fax: +44 (0)1905 613338
Saint Nicholas Street    Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk

Date: 09/01/95
Time: 05:40:16

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From: JCassidyiv@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:25:00 -0400
Subject: Koenig Winch For Sale

I 'm posting this for a friend of mine.  He has a Koenig winch for sale
 that's in excellent shape.  It is the type that drives off the front of the
engine.  Price is $750.  Please E-mail if you're interested.  Serious
inquiries only.  The winch is located in Maine. 
Cheers!  John Cassidy

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From: GARCAY@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:39:54 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Hi All!!

I posted a request last week for anyone who might have or knows of four (4)
rear fold-up jump seats(not bench seats) for an ' 88 rover wagon that you'd
be willing to sell or trade. Any news out there ? My friend Greg, whom I
placed the ad for is desperate !!!

Thanks

Hope to from someone
                                                      George Arcay
                                                      Alexandria, Va.

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From: Kefi@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 14:33:49 -0400
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally

Hi all,

I and three or four other members of the Yankee Rover Club of Connecticut are
planning to attend the Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally.  We are planning to caravan
down to Va. and would like to know if anyone from the northeast or Canada is
driving down.  Maybe we could meet and all drive down together.  
 
Reply to me at Kefi@aol.com.

Thanks,

 Art Patsouris

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:21:21 -0600 (CST)
From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: ... (and more brake questions)

In message Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:21:48 -0600 (MDT),
  Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>  writes:
> 63 Series IIa 88" SW
...
> end going into the switch is a British Flare (kind of flying saucer
> shape, looking in profile) and the master cylinder end is a normal North
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> looking into the master, it looks as though both ends are going to be
> different. Anybody?

I had to remove a rear cylinder with a stuck pipe. So i ordered a kit and
changed the pipe from the rear T-piece along with the cylinder. By checking
the rest of the kit i can see both flying saucers and y's.
Does this help?

BTW. My brother and i did maint. on the rovers last weekend. Anyone remember
my drum removal problems?. Well instead of getting hi-tensile bolts from
abroad i decided to get violent. A hydraulic jack against the spring and a
hammer took it off with the sound of a very big church bell and landed in my
brothers lap. Changed shoes and cylinder and the drum is back on. Didn't
look bad inside.

sv/aurens

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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 15:29:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Brown <DB@CHO004.CHO.GE.COM>
Subject: On the road again...

All,
    Tomorrow (monday the 4th) I head up from VA to Rovers North- about a
    14 hour drive.  I'm going to swap the engine and transmission in my
    vehicle (a 1960 Series II 88 with canvas top.)  This is one of those
    dicey timing exercises: don't want to replace them if they still
    have life in them...but can't wait so long that the vehicle can't
    make a 14 hour trip in one day!  Wish me luck.  Look for me on the
    highways.  Come rescue me if I break down...heh heh...

    If all goes well, I'll be back home by Saturday or Sunday, and will
    be at the BRLRC meet in Edinburg, VA the following weekend...and at
    the Mid-Atlantic rally at the end of the month!  (Still have to
    check with the wife on that one; asking her right before I abandon
    her alone with the kids for a week while I traipse up to VT didn't
    seem prudent...)

    Psyching myself up for a flaming hot right foot by the time I get
    there,
    Duncan

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 16:21:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: ... (and more brake questions)

 
On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, Soren Vels Christensen wrote:

> I had to remove a rear cylinder with a stuck pipe. So i ordered a kit and
> changed the pipe from the rear T-piece along with the cylinder. By checking
> the rest of the kit i can see both flying saucers and y's.
> Does this help?

So your saying that at the T end of the pipe there was a flying saucer 
and at the wheel cylinder there was a Y? If this pipe you have is a 
proper Land Rover part, then that explains what I was seeing. It just 
didn't make sense, and I can't just buy that part at my local store. I 
will either have to have one made up at a brake place, or order the 
actual Land Rover part. 

Thanks,
Rob

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  3 Sep 95 20:44:21 EDT
Subject: Re: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)

I stand proud with the porcine members of the list...<grin>

As a matter of fact, anybody got a good suggestion for mounting
a 2 meter/440 antenna without punching holes in the old aluminum
beast? 

    Your humble servant, Alan/N1TWY

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:02:25 -0400
Subject: Back and reading

Thanks for the help with the mime decoding. First Spenny suggested it and
then Todd Houge. Problem 'solved'. So I can read the digest again. It was
just such a surprise finding that condition upon return from vacation. And
when I followed AOL's suggestion, it just compounded the problem.
Now if I can just figure out what those red and yellow knobs do...

See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (thinktank?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! 

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 95 19:09:35 PDT
Subject: Re: 	Lucas

John:

Sorry to hear of your Lucas experiences on the `87... Perhaps its time to have 
a go `round with (here comes the dreaded word...) *GROUNDS!* I'd go through 
the engine bay, and also pop the back of the instrument binnacle off. Just do 
a quick looksee for connection integrity. Terminal corrosion can be cured by 
removing terminals, smearing spades with some electrical grease, and 
refitting. Also make sure that all fuses are seated firmly and that fuse 
holder ends are electrically clean.

Those symptoms sure do sound like one or more bad grounds. Also, and I'm sure 
that you've already done this - check battery cable integrity and terminal 
cleanliness/tightness. 

And no - its not a plot to get you to buy a new Rover!! You already did that - 
beforehand!! John, feel free to call me at work and I'll try and patch you 
through to Bill Mauro - our RR guru in the hopes that he might be able to 
steer to towards some diagnostic procedure(s) short of you bringing the truck 
down.

Hope that you're enjoying the `87 - despite the problems you've had. It's 
still a Range Rover! Talk soon.

cheerz
Jim

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:42:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)

On 3 Sep 1995, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> I stand proud with the porcine members of the list...<grin>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> beast? 
>     Your humble servant, Alan/N1TWY
Well Alan, I used the hole normally filled by a plastic plug on the top 
of the fender.  The holes usually are reserved for the mirrors but I was 
able to mount a Larson 5/8th in the hole and leave no marks on the 
vehicle that can't be filled with the plug should I want to sell.  
Another good spot for the antenna is on the safari rack on a triangle 
plate across the corner of the rack.  On my unit I have a chrome ball on 
the side wall back of the station wagon window and I have mounts that go 
on the safari top ladder for mounting an air operated mast.  The mast 
goes up to 40 feet with no guy wires when using a 13 element 2 meter beam 
but I also use an inverted V on it so it is like having some guying.  
Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 21:46:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: sand ladders

I had some great luck today.  At a garage sale I bought two sand ladders 
like on the Camel Trophy for $5.00.  The fellow thought they were very 
long steps that needed to be welded on to be of use.  The neat thing is I 
used them before I got home.  I came across a Dodge Caravan down to the 
frame in soft sand.  I put the two under the front drive wheels and he 
drove out with little trouble.  They are going to be a nice addition to 
my safari top.  Dave VE4PN

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 01:00:33 -0400
Subject: Accessories for the Discovery

I am currently in training for the sheriff's dept. volunteer group.  I plan
to join the 4WD Posse upon completion of training.  The 4WD Posse
participates in search and rescue, getting "ground pounders" to the right
spot, showing the "flag" when necessary, guarding access roads during fires,
etc.  By showing the flag, an example is a drive by shooting in a local town
which is about 1 square mile.  There were ten 4WD vehicles asked to maintain
a Sheriff's presence for the rest of the day.  

You have to pass a required number of hours of training including the same
firearms training that the deputies are subjected to as well as defensive
tactics, OC spray (yes..we were sprayed), first aid, mechanical restraints,
 traffic control, etc.  For the 4WD Posse, your vehicle has to be white (for
easier spotting in the desert from a plane or 'copter) and it has to be 4WD.
 Our county is larger than the state of Massachusetts and a large part is
desert.  I would guess that 1/6 is metro, 1/6 is rural and the remainder is
desert!

I have accessories like a winch, GPS, first aid equipment, fire ext., etc.
 but there are certain things that I may add to the Discovery in the future.
 Red and blue lights (front & rear which I want to be inconspicuous when not
in use), sirens, radio, etc.  Most of the folks prefer to mount the rear
lights on the inside where they aren't as noticeable when off. The front ones
are that noticeable when mounted like fog lights.  

Is there anyone out there with any experience with these types of
accessories?  Is there a source that you might recommend?  Any help is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks...
Gerry & "The Great White Hope"  (you know...a white vehilce  with
questionable electics and a propensity for leaking.......you gotta have
hope!)

"How can you tell if a lawyer is well-hung?  You can't get your fingers
between his neck and the rope"

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 22:33:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: D-90 warranty issues

On Thu, 31 Aug 1995 JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com wrote:

> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> I thought I would write to compare notes on some warranty
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> also informed me that a local upholstery shop had installed
> ONE zipper in the top.  

Dear James:
 One of the zippers on the Rear Flap of my '94 D90 separated above the 
slider and the dealer here in Seattle had it fixed by an auto 
top/upholstery shop which is right next door to Land Rover: Both zippers 
for the rear flap were replaced with much more "heavy duty" zippers and 
the repair was done under the warranty. The upholstery shop said that the 
original zippers for the back flap just weren't strong enough, but that 
the side window zippers were adequate for their intended use (so far no 
problem with the side zippers)
 This only applies to the 94 (Tickford) soft tops.

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