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1 w1eox@ix.netcom.com (Yve37Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
2 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.21LR books
3 Mark Talbot [71035.3215@14FOR SALE Bellview (Land Rover) winch
4 LTC Larry Smith [smithla25 Re: SIII / Thermostat.....
5 JDolan2109@aol.com 31Stranded by AOL
6 LTC Larry Smith [smithla23 Re: Insurance for U.S. Series Rovers
7 Rob Bailey [baileyr@cuug23Re: Amateur Radio Callsigns (and more brake questions)
8 Hal Leininger [halgram@s6Palo Alto British Car Meet
9 David John Place [umplac15Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
10 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn16Re: New Galvinized Frame
11 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn18Re: aired down???
12 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn24Re: Where to take the kids in what (was: Discovery Shops)
13 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr21Re: Palo Alto British Car Meet
14 JCassidyiv@aol.com 21RR electrical probs
15 Thouge@aol.com 17clutch help
16 jeff@purpleshark.com (Je41Multi purpose tools. (Was Re: Misc.)
17 Sekerere@aol.com 31Gaitors and Locks
18 bbonner@mail.htp.com (Br299th anual Hampton Classic


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Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 06:28:25 -0400
From: w1eox@ix.netcom.com (Yves Feder)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

 
>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 03:55:05 -0400
>Subject: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)
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>Cordially:    (and 73)
>Rick Crider   KD4FXA
 
Hi Rick!!! I'm Old Buzzard W1EOX (lic. since 1953) - owned several 88's and
now with a 1963 109 truck (nice picture of it btw in the early summer issue
of "Aluminum Workhorse".

I basically have 'im outfitted as a test bed for various radio projects,
although the mainstay rigs are an ex state police lowband 90W radio with
remote control head (set up on 52.49 and 52.525, very active 6m stuff here
in S/NEng) and an Alinco 45w two meter rig. All kinds of other stuff is in
and out of the Beastie from time to time - collapsible poles for VHF
mountaintopping with various yagis, AM gear (various old military rigs) and
6 permanently mounted antennas HF through 220/440.

The usual comments from the gang at the Killingworth dump (excuse me, the
"recycling center/compactor site") are along the lines of "hey, whaddya pick
up with all those antennas? Russia?!!!" to which of course the answer is, ayuh!

Enjoyed your comments about the 109 ad too!!! (especially your replies)

73
Yves (Al) W1EOX
ex K2CUI / K1TJP
Yves A. (Al "Al") Feder
w1eox@ix.netcom.com
Home of "Tiny Radio Theatre"(tm) AND
Eric, the Mad Megalomaniac Bull Cavy

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 21:27:57 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: LR books

Jay Hobbs:  I have a few L-R book titles in
            http://www.cs.monash.edu.au.~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Books/index.shtml

---

Does anyone have recommendations re forward-facing fold-up seats to
mount in the rear of a SIII LWB HT ?

There are various ones advertised in LROI.

Does anyone down-under know of a local product
(I want seat-belts and RTA approval).

Lloyd
Dept. of Computer Science, Monash University, Clayton, Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA
tel: 61 3 9905 5205      fax: 61 3 9905 5146      email: lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au

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Date: 02 Sep 95 18:40:49 EDT
From: Mark Talbot <71035.3215@compuserve.com>
Subject: FOR SALE Bellview (Land Rover) winch 

FOR SALE, 

BELLVIEW (LAND ROVER) electric winch. Pull rating 8,000lbs All cables etc. Comes
mounted on original bumper. Original optional equipment as on eraly series
vehicles.

Asking $150, plus shipping, approx. $40

Mark  603-357-3401

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Date:     Sat, 2 Sep 95 18:49:14 EDT (2249Z)
From: LTC Larry Smith <smithla@arngrc-emh2.army.mil>
Subject:  Re:  SIII / Thermostat.....

Rick,

Just went thru a temp question with my '72 Petrol SWB.  The temp "gauge" 
started creeping up into the borderline red zone.  Flushed the system, changed 
the thermostat, had the radiator flow tested, still slowly creeping up.  
Changed the temp sending unit, ordered a new temp gauge, all the time, the 
return hose water temp 160-170 degrees F.  Finally got ready to change the temp
head, jockeyed with the voltage stabilizer on the back of the speedo, and now 
it reads "correctly", (or at least what it did when I bought it) at the upper 
edge of the letter "N".

I still keep my eye on it, check the temp with a meat thermometer chucked into 
the filler neck once a week or so, esp. with the high temps we have been having
here in VA.  So, it sounds like you are doing the right things.  But I might 
suggest investing $4.00 +/- in a thermometer to measure the temp of the water 
at the return (top) hose to be on the safe side.

Regards,

Larry

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 19:27:58 -0400
Subject: Stranded by AOL

Thanx to wonderful AOL, I'm getting my mail as unreadable, 'Mime' encoded
files. Everything!!! My computer, like my '61 LR is a *bit* dated. Just like
most people when it comes to vehicles, they (AOL) say replace-upgrade. The
first thing I'll replace is them. I'm only able to decipher bits of the list
(as data forks), as I can't support their conversion software. My only
recourse might be to leave the list, find a new provider, and try again. 
I did have a nice vacation to Colorado. 4600 miles and 13 states. Me and
Binky, the Airedale dog. Didn't go to Breckenridge. Did go to Sturgis, SD
(Harleys).
Someone asked about spraying bar and chain oil on the chassis. My suggestion
is (was): 'cut' the oil with a _slight_ bit of diesel fuel (not much,
experiment to obtain optimum (heaviest possible) viscosity). This will enable
the oil to spray more easily and penetrate more extensively. The diesel will
act as a 'carrier' and dissipate. Try using one of those 'plunger' charging
type sprayers. If there's an old orchard or farm or such around you'd
probably find an old one there. They tended to erode the orifice of the
nozzle after extended use (making it actually better for chassis oiling!),
and sometimes are 'laid aside' but not discarded. If you use an old sprayer,
clean it well, as it might have been last used for DDT or such!
Hope to see folks at Stowe, stop by if you're in the neighborhood.
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (thinktank?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!
P.S. Anyone with any knowledge/experience with older Mac's (sys 6.7 = max)
and decoding Mime documents, please email direct, if inclined. 

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Date:     Sat, 2 Sep 95 19:23:16 EDT (2323Z)
From: LTC Larry Smith <smithla@arngrc-emh2.army.mil>
Subject:  Re:  Insurance for U.S. Series Rovers

Scott,

Have to agree with Hank on USAA.  I originally financed with them.  They had to
go thru about two or three books to find out what a Series Land Rover was, but
once they did, no questions as to value or insurability.  I have $100
deductable for liability and comprehensive.  The cost is relative to any other
vehicle I have insured with them in the last 15+ years.  Best of all, all over
the phone!

I guess the best way to go is per a later posting (apologize for not getting
the name), work with an agent you feel comfortable with who respects what we
have "invested" in.

BTW, I am using my '72 SWB as a daily driver and USAA is insuring it as such.

Regards,

Larry

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:21:48 -0600 (MDT)
From: Rob Bailey <baileyr@cuug.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Callsigns (and more brake questions)

My callsign:

VE6JRJ - Calgary, Alberta, Canada
63 Series IIa 88" SW

Also:
  Does anybody know what the brake line flares are like in older LR's? I 
have to replace the pipe between the brake master and the stop 
light/splitter mounted on the right hand frame rail. It looks like the 
end going into the switch is a British Flare (kind of flying saucer 
shape, looking in profile) and the master cylinder end is a normal North 
American type flare (like a Y shape in profile). I wanted to know if this 
was correct or if both ends were supposed to be the British type! By 
looking into the master, it looks as though both ends are going to be 
different. Anybody?

Thanks,
Rob

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 17:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hal Leininger <halgram@slip.net>
Subject: Palo Alto British Car Meet

Can someone post when this will be? 

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 19:37:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Hi Yves
I am another old time ham.  Thirty five years.  Commercial training 
originally and now an Educational Psychologist.  I have an interresting 
air operated mast that I use with my 64 IIA.  It climbs from about 8 feet 
nested to 40 feet by pumping in air from a small compressor.  Mostly I am 
on 2 meters with it for Red Cross work.  I have been working for the 
American Red Cross in radio on the Island Kawai two years ago, Russia and 
Finland last year and just this June in New Orleans for the flood.  You 
can see a picture of my 88 in Jimmyp WWW page along with a few other 
Manitoba Rovers. 73 Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:16:41 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: New Galvinized Frame

> I would second Jory's vote for returning the frame.  For the jack that 

I'll third it.  If it's noticably bent/damaged, return it.  As Jory said, if 
it was in shipping, it should be insured.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:16:23 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: aired down???

> Ummmm ....
> Roger did you say you aired _down_ to 45psi?
> If so, from what?!

Yep.  From 55-60psi.  (What the tyres are rated for for best mileage on the 
highway.)  (On the Mendocino run, I don't think I aired down at all.)

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 18:16:06 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Where to take the kids in what (was: Discovery Shops)

>  Question: Are Land-Rover dealerships 'Discovery Shops*', or vica versa?

Or, if you have wee kids, are they 'Discovery Zones*'?  (Visions of children 
crawl over a brand new disco with melted chocolate bars, as Dad talks the 
price down...)

> -Michael 'Just Jealous' Carradine

P.S., Saw a Unimog in the Truck Trader.  I can get more info if you want.

*The Discovery Zone is a chain of (basically) indoor jungle gyms you can take 
kids to.  Actually, very affordable and very good for kids, developmentally.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 18:15:48 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Palo Alto British Car Meet

 Hal Leininger <halgram@slip.net> writes:

>Can someone post when this will be?

 Re: Palo Alto British Car Meet

 Sunday September 10, 1995, starting at 9:00 AM (I think!)
 On the east side of El Camino Real, across from the
 Stanford Shopping Center.

 Michael Carradine         ?           '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' at
 cs@crl.com                _\    __      http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
                          [__[__[__]
 _________________________(o)___(o)_______________________________________

 

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From: JCassidyiv@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:03:22 -0400
Subject: RR electrical probs

I posted a message last week about my oil level warning light flashing when
the dipstick reads normal level of oil.  Well, I haven't replaced the sensor
yet.  Now, there are two new electrical problems;
1.)  The low beam headlights dim significantly when the windshield washer is
used.  The high beams seem unaffected.

2.)  The transmission temperature warning light came on twice today, both
times after the vehicle had been sitting for at least 1-2 hours.  Ambient
temperature about 75 degrees F and after normal around town/highway use.

Those of you who are electrically minded please help!  It seems like the
electical system is slowly disintegrating each time I turn the key!(possibly
some Land Rover concoction to get me to go to the dealer and purchase a new
one?!)
Cheers!  John Cassidy

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From: Thouge@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:00:59 -0400
Subject: clutch help

After wading through the river, water to the top of the transmission tunnel,
and then sitting overnight, the clutch in my SIII will not disengage.  We
have spent the last two weeks checking the hydraulics, removing the floor,
seats, etc. to check the throw out bearing and clutch plate.   Everything
seems fine...  Rovers North says the clutch is stuck and to get the vehicle
going in fourth gear and 'rock' the vehicle with the throttle.... still no
luck.  I need help, I'm going into Rover withdrawal.

Todd Houge
Springfield, Missouri USA
'73 SIII 88"  

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:41:02 -0400
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Multi purpose tools. (Was Re: Misc.)

>>- Latest Land Rover Gear item is a really neat Gerber multi-purpose tool
>>which

> Gerber makes good stuff, a 'merican company, although they were bought out by
> Solingen or somebody.

The Gerber tool is pretty nice, I bought one (not the official Land-Rover
model) for my father a couple of x-mas' ago.  However, take a look at the
offerings from SOG, particularly the para-tool, before buying the Gerber.
I think it's a better tool.  (The newest model even uses a gear system to
increase leverage on the jaws.)

The SOG handles won't close all the way when the pliers are in use, which
prevents the nasty blood blister that occurs when you cut through that
piece of wire and catch the fatty part of your palm between the handles.
Trust me, not 15 seconds after watching my father do this, I took the tool
from him (in disgust at his clumsiness) and did it to myself.

SOG comes with a hard plastic sheath, but a nylon case is available for
about $7 direct from SOG.  One nice feature of the nylon case is that it
can be mounted horizontally on your belt for a lower profile look.

Gerber was bought by the company that manufactures Fiskars scissors.  Don't
know the name.

Regards.

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg         Purple Shark Media             Rowayton, CT
                        jeff@purpleshark.com
                                *****
Look what happens when you love someone, and they don't love you.
                                       --Warren Zevon, The Heartache
==                                                                 ==

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 01:01:05 -0400
Subject: Gaitors and Locks

Just catching up on LRO-D for the past couple fo weeks after our trip to
Africa. Pleased to say that "the beast" now has brand new reconditioned
swivel balls, and all the parts to go with them. Thank goodness for the used
ones that I bought as we had to cannibalize some parts. There is a bright
yellow/orange tailgate wired on for the time being, as I brought back the
wrong latches. Now we just have to do the Transfer and Transmission seals,
the exhaust downpipe and the pinion seals. List never seems to stop. Anyway I
have a couple of questions/problems. Somewhere in one of the lists someone
mentioned that they had the template for the Series gaiters and after talking
to the South African dealers I think I want to try to make myself a set
rather than buy them, unless someone can suggest some off brand ones. Also I
just received my door locks from a dealer in South Africa and find that they
are substantially different to the ones I have on the beast-so much so that I
cannot fit the drivers door with the one I bought for it, and I had to modify
the one for the safari door. The ones I have do not have the lock attached to
the handle and it is in the top left-hand corner as you look at the lock from
an outside vantage point. Somehow there is no way that the lock and handle
fit onto a Series IIA door without doing major cutting of metal. Firstly am I
just being dense or did the guy send me locks for a Series III or later?
Secondly is there anyone who would need this lock and handle-it is brand new.
By the way Arizona LROs give me a call sometime about the Arizona LR
Association you are trying to start-I would be interested.

Chris Whitehead
SeriesIIA -SWB 1966 (The Anti-Christ)- and money pit right now!!!!!!

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 01:21:46 -0400
From: bbonner@mail.htp.com (Brian Bonner)
Subject: 9th anual Hampton Classic

The offroad clinic today in S.Hampton was a blast! Not too difficult
compared to what I have done; but, really fun. I am still coughing up dust
from the track. Real dry. too make it fun I did the course as fast as was
sane.(insane for most) hahaha! The nick named me the dust cloud! I beat the
heck out of my D90! What a blast my wife and i had. It was a winding course
with a variety of obstacles. from mougles on angles and curves, too 75 deg
inclines with a hair pin turn at the top and a 80-85 deg decline. All on a
soft dry sandy course.
some poor owner goofed and rolled his 94 Range Rover on the track! ouch!
turned out he has big bucks though, so no biggy. The figure about 12,000.00
worth of dammage. He just did all the wrong things at one time. 3rd year
there too. No other dammaged vehicles. Some got stuck here and there causing
some traffic jams. I did the course 3 times for fun. the best part was it
was all free.

Then the trail ride(snore) was nice. the best part was a 15 yard mud
pit(natural). I waited till the other driver was way clear. The i looked to
my wife and said ready? She said yup. Put it it low 3rd and punched it! Mud
Everywhere! hahaha! it went right over the top of the vehicle!(we had no top
on)hahahaha! I won dirtiest truck! Power washed and still muddy. You know
what i will be doing tomarrow! Inside, outside, and underneath.

                                        
                                   -=>Brian<=-

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