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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 03:55:05 -0400
Subject: Rovers and Ham (radio, that is)

CQ, CQ, CQ.......Calling all Hams............

Have noticed amateur radio call signs attached to the signatures of several
of us on the list.   Probably a common thread in there somewhere since most
ham types are generally the gadget / tool/ 'by God I'll fix it myself' types
  ..................

Would like to see posted responses from any and all ham radio operators on
the list......perhaps we can share common problems and solutions concerning
our toys......such as mounting,  RFI,  antennas,  road noise,  etc.

I've designed and fabricated a *really nice*  overhead console.....takes the
place of the sunvisor gizmo in the series Rovers.......looks and works
great.....and holds loads of radio gear and speakers.    

Let's share our knowledge.......
Cordially:    (and 73)
Rick Crider   KD4FXA

Monroe  NC.......USA
(704) 289-6303
' 66 SIIA   109"    (Hugo)........      and for sale.............
' 73 SIII     88"     (Jesse)
' 88  Range  Rover
............and way too many Alfa Romeos.........

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 04:31:25 -0400
Subject: ...."SHOQ's" .....

Hi All:..............
"SHOQ's"  =  'Stupid Hopeful Owners Questions'

Posted a 'For Sale'  ad (for my 109" SIIa) in the local 'Truck Trader'
tabloid......one of those you see on the racks at most all (USA) convenience
stores......paid the extra $ for a front cover spot.
Boy........was I overrun with calls.......No one has written a check yet
though.   Some of the more amusing questions I've posted below.   The
response in '( )' are not necessarily my *actual* responses to said
questions.........

*Is it like the one in the Born Free movie?  (I've never seen Born Free)
*Is it like the one in the 'The Specialist' movie?  (Yes, but sans the
dynamite)
*Is it automatic?   (Huh?)
*Does it have air conditioning?  (Are you kidding?)
*Why is there a tire on the hood?  (It's a 'bonnet', and that's where it
belongs.)
*Who was the original owner?  (Hell, I was nine years old in 1966.....)
*Is it Four Wheel Drive?   (Thanks for calling.....bye now.)
*Would it be a good college car for my son? (Yes, if he's in Sarajevo.....)
*Is it easy to repair?  (Yes, if you're good with pliers and coathangers....)
*Is it a kit car?   (Well.......you could call it that.........)
*Are parts readily available?   (Does the UPS truck pass your house?)

Yes folks....these were real questions......not made up merely for your
amusement.  In all fairness though.....I did have some very legitimate
calls.....some from previous LRO's who knew exactly what to ask.

See Ya......
Rick Crider   KD4FXA
<rickcrider@aol.com>

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From: sreddock@VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:18:23 BST
Subject: Films

Hi, I was watching Carry On Camping the other night and I spotted a series 1.
I think it was a long wheel base with a soft top (removed apart from the
sticks).  It was used to carry the campers off somewhere.

Another one to add to the list!

Steve Reddock.  Lightweight V6

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Fri, 1 Sep 1995 06:33:35 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Misc.

>  Jim <jpappa01@interserv.com> writes:
>  Latest Land Rover Gear item is a really neat Gerber multi-purpose tool which 
>  comes in a slick black ballistic nylon sheath with LR logo sewn-in. This is a 
>  cool tool! At all LR Centres...

Gee, I wonder if you can get just the pouch. I bought a Leatherman 
(which the Gerber is a *quality* knockoff of). I do a lot of work on 
computers and the Leatherman has pliers cloeser to needle a nose 
style. The Gerber seems like it might be better in you LR kit though, 
 it seems a bit heftier. But I wouldn't mine having the sheath you mention.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Fri, 1 Sep 1995 06:40:23 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Unisyn dual carb tool FS

John Friedman writes:
> Thanks to all who have helped me clean my shelves of old tools. But  
> there at the back is a Unisyn, designed for dual Solexes or SU's or  
> whatever where you need to read and match the vacuum on two separate  
> throats. This is a real piece of 60's-70's automotive history and I  
Snip,

[Unasked for testimonial]
I have one of these tools and used it on my BMW. I can highly 
recommend them.. I'm keeping it on the theory that someday I'm going to 
get another Beemer.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Fri, 1 Sep 1995 06:45:13 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Oiling Frames

John Cassidy asks:
> I know someone posted a message regarding spraying "bar and chain" chainsaw
> oil onto their frame.  What kind of sprayer are you using-can you use just a
> simple plastic garden-type pressure sprayer. 
Snip

John,
I posted that. I haven't done it myself. There were places  in VT 
where I lived that did it. I imagine it would be worth a try. As 
someone mentioned you may have to enlarge the holes somewhat. If you 
heat the oil some it might noe be as much of a problem.
You will want to drill holes in the door channels and other places to 
get at hiiden areas. You can get plastic plugs (like the ones used 
on the rear cross member) to put in the holes.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: 01 Sep 95 08:18:13 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: D90 oil change

*WHOooosh*...  splat!

> oil on my D90 myself. What a mess!! When I took out the drain plug the oil
> shot over 3 feet ouyt of the whole! It bounced off my drivers side tire and
> made quite a mess. Is there some trick I have missed? I used to be an

And I thought my old 109 left big spots  :-)

Did you already have the oil filler cap off? If you leave it *on* , the
oil usually blubs out gradually and doesn't come shooting out like that.
Additionally blocking the crankcase ventilation (not forgetting to unblock
it afterwards) also tends to slow down the rush of oil. Another method
altogether is to get (or make) yourself a simple device to suck most of
the oil out via the dipstick tube before removing the drain plug. For this
to work the oil has to be relatively hot, or you'll be there a long while.

Better luck next time!

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 95 08:50:22 EST
Subject: Draining Oil

Has anyone heard of some sort of spigot that replaces drain 
plugs?  This might be the way to go, since copper crush 
washers should really only be used once.  (I've haven't 
changed mine yet through 1st 3 changes, but will next time!) 
 I think the spigot thing may have been offered by one of 
the quicky-lube type shops.

Hank

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From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:23:02 +0100
Subject: Re: importing from UK - info in Bristol Needed.

Hi Jan,
       Avon landrovers is about 10 miles from my house, although I
know nothing about them and have never visited their site.  I first
saw their adverts for vehicles a couple of years ago - had they been
around longer I would probably have heard.  More recently I have noted
that they are selling parts too.  As far as I know it's the usual
farmer's field full of LR's for sale.

You're very brave buying across the pond - Let me know if I can help
you.  I know my way around leafers and coilers, but don't offer any
guarantees!  The AA/RAC inspections are well regarded over here.
--
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Best Regards,
Steve.

Dr Steve Methley	       *****     *****
HP Labs, Filton Road, 	       ***  /_  __ ***   email:	  sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Bristol, BS12 6QZ, UK	       **  / / /_/  **   or	  sgm@hpl.hp.co.uk
direct line: +44 117 922 8751  ***    /    ***   fax: 	  +44 117 922 9286
switchboard: +44 117 979 9910  *****     *****   or		      8920

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Fri, 1 Sep 1995 08:54:08 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Draining Oil

AHnk writes:
> Has anyone heard of some sort of spigot that replaces drain 
> plugs?  
Snip

Sounds dangerous if you go off road.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 09:56:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Callsigns

Being rather new to the digest I have noticed several HAM RADIO CALLSIGNS
 which have appeared in various sigs.  I would be interested to find out just
how many land-Rover owners are hams as well, besides it will give me practice
in getting e-mail and downloading info.
                                           Thanks         73
               Steve Bradke     WA2GMC             72 ser lll 88
                                                       

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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 15:11:23 +0100
From: Michael Turpin <ccaamet@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: importing from UK - info in Bristol Needed.

Jan,

Last year I bought a '84 110 2.5D Station Wagon from Avon Land rovers.

(Yes, Steve, it is the usual farmer's field full of LRs with a couple of
barns for workshops).

When I first looked at the vehicle I pointed out a few minor defects which
they said that they would correct.  The only fix that I didn't particularly
like was the patching of the holes in the bottom of the front doors.  They
welded a couple of plates straight over the holes and these rub on the
bottom of the door frame.

When I picked the LR up, one of the rear bench seat cushions was missing so
they said that they'd get a new one and send it on.  I think it took around
two months and a lot of phone calls before I received one. 

Also, they offered to underseal the vehicle for me (for a small fee) which I
agreed to.  It must have taken someone all of ten minutes to slap a coat of
underseal on.  Quite a lot of it is already peeling away!
(Preparation?...what's that!)

The car was to have a new MOT certificate when I picked it up, but they
hadn't had time to get it tested before I arrived.  So, I went along to the
testing centre with Barry from Avons.  No probs. apart from the emissions
test which it eventually passed with the air filter removed!

Having said this, I bought my 110 for around =A31000 less than I could have
from any local dealer, which made it roughly the same as a private sale but
with a year's warranty.  Also, they didn't try to hide anything, they even
put the car up on their ramps so I could take a better look at the chassis.

Hope this helps

Cheers
Mike

____________________________________________________________________________

                        Michael Turpin
                        Network Operations Section,
                        Network Group,
                        Information Systems Division,
                        Kathleen Lonsdale Building,
                        University College London,
                        Gower Street,
                        WC1E 6BT.

E-Mail: m.turpin@ucl.ac.uk                            Tel: 0171-380-7828

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From: ScottFugate_Group8@ctdvns1.ctd.ornl.gov
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:59:29 EDT
Subject: Insurance for U.S. Series Rovers

Gang,

The article on insurance in the September LRO Magazine has reminded me to  get 
around to a subject I've been meaning to do, but have neglected.  That is - 
How do you U.S. citizens insure your Series Rovers?  I currently am carrying 
liability only on mine, but I wish to perhaps add collision and comprehensive. 
 Problem is, how much is a 1970 British vehicle worth?  All I know is that, 
after three and a half years worth of "rolling restoration" mine is worth more 
than the $1,700.00 I paid for it.  How much?  I have saved my receipts, but I 
believe the old boy is worth more than the sum of his parts.  I have 
considered getting an appraisal, but where do I find a certified vehicle 
appraiser who knows anything about old Land Rovers?  There sure aren't any in 
these parts (American Iron predominant here), and I can't afford to pay for 
any of the hired gun appraisers who advertise in Hemming's to come to town.  
"Vintage Car" policies require you to drive your vehicle only for shows and 
parades, etc.  My truck still works for a living, albeit on weekends only.

How have other folks dealt with this conundrum?  From reading the LRO article, 
I'm at least glad we don't have to deal with the crap our fellow enthusiasts 
in the UK have to put up with.  Reporting "performance" mods such as roof 
racks and new wheels - Sheesh! 

Have a happy Labor Day weekend.  Dove hunting season starts in Tennessee in a 
little over an hour.  See y'all Tuesday!

Scott Fugate
1970 IIA 88
1989 RR

BT

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 08:55:36 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Bouncing Deer and Bars

You wrote: 
 

  Clayton Kirkwood <kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com  writes:
 
        Perhaps you saw my "testimony" about the brush bar vs deer. snip

 MC: Now Clayton, certainly I didn't want to hurt your feelings by offering
  another perspective to your 'testimony'.  

  snip

  MC: Next time, while turning to your wife at 60 mph, it may be (snip) another   
   deer which ...jumps on your bonnet and comes through the windscreen.  
 
Michael, not to hurt your feelings but I thought deer bounced off windscreens :)  
So doesn't this call for a windscreen area roll bar with a heavy gauge wire mesh 
grill? :)
 
  MG:It's not the bar that's alarming, it's the change in driver attitude that's
  frightening. 

This out to bring out the best in all those others out there with bars :)

       CK: Besides, it lends a certain style to the already cool car.
 
   MC: How can you tell how cool the car is after attaching the bull bar? 

 Michael Carradine, Architect                          Ph/Fax 510-988-0900

I would have thought an architect very familiar with the prinicples of style, 
design and appearance :)

Cheers,

Jeremy

P.S. I've taken your attitude to heart and made my bar deer friendly by welding 
diamond grate across the bars.  That way it can bounce off and its head won't get 
stuck and go through the radiator :)

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 09:04:59 PDT
From: grea@net.gov.bc.ca (Gordon Rea 660-0216 (NTO Vanc.))

unsubscribe lro-digest

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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 09:08:16 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Bull Bars and Deer and Whatever else :-)

 Hey Tiffany,

>Hey..before you get angry at me I'm not having a go at you.  ...I'd
 choose a bull-bar any day.

>Sorry If I've offended you in anyway I just thought you might like to hear
 someone else's point of view.  When we're driving we watch our speed and we
 try to avoid obstacles at all costs but I'd still prefer to have some
 protection on my vehicle - just incase.

 No offence to be taken here :)  You've made my point "watch our speed and
 try to avoid obstacles at all costs".  (I should never have picked up this
 thread. Problem is, I just don't know when to keep my mouth shut!)

 Glad to see you back on the net.  With so little traffic from AU/SA we'd
 thought roo's buggered the whole bloody lot!

 PS-  Like reading your travel logs, and finding the places on the map.

 Michael Carradine         ?           '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' at
 cs@crl.com                _\    __      http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
                          [__[__[__]
 _________________________(o)___(o)_______________________________________

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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 09:25:53 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Insurance for U.S. Series Rovers

>"Vintage Car" policies require you to drive your vehicle only for shows and 
>parades, etc.  My truck still works for a living, albeit on weekends only.

 An insurance broker at a booth at the local British Car meet in Hayward, CA
 a few months ago provided policies such as the following:
    --  comprehensive and liability insurance
    --  driving not more than 2,500 miles per year
    --  no driving to work
    --  vehicle to be garaged (carported?)
    --  agreed-to replacement value (he took photos)
 For a $7,000 vehicle value, using 'A' rated (or better) insurance cmpanies,
 the annual premium was quoted at $180.  [For more information contact Barlow
 Insurance Brokerage, 1515 Tanglewood Drive, Corona, CA 91720, (800) 484-9880]

 Michael Carradine         ?           '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' at
 cs@crl.com                _\    __      http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
                          [__[__[__]
 _________________________(o)___(o)_______________________________________

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 09:46:15 PDT
From: Bennett Leeds <bennett@mv.us.adobe.com>
Subject: Re: Brush/Bull guard testimony

I've got my own deer/vehicle story.

I was driving home late from work one night, doing about 30 MPH up a  
fairly twisty mountain road cut into a hillside, so there was a steep  
slope up at my left and a steep dropoff on my right. All of a sudden  
I see the eye of a deer coming down the hillside (my left) at quite a  
clip. He was very close when I first saw him - maybe 5-10 feet. He  
was going too fast down the hillside to stop before the road.

In a split second I just knew we were going to collide - that there  
was no way for me to avoid it. I had this same feeling 15 years ago  
when I was in an accident. Just before the impact you know you're  
toast.

I hit the brakes and turned the car to the right, hoping that he'd  
turn also so that we'd bump side to side which would be better for  
him - he might not be seriously hurt. 

Well, my car stops and there's no bump, no deer, just a rustle in the  
bushes to my right. 

The inescapable conclusion is that he jumped over my car! I've since  
found out that deer can jump 5 to 6 feet (hence some people put dual  
6 foot fences around their vegetable gardens). He might have been  
able to slow enough to go behind my car, but I strongly doubt it. I  
was slowing down by braking, which would make that harder.

I was driving a little RX-7, so jumping over isn't such a big deal.  
Had I been in a Discovery (which is where I'd rather have been), I  
wonder if it would have caught the roof rack, tipping me over. I hope  
to never find out.

BTW, if you see one deer, even off in the distance, keep alert as  
they usually travel in packs and they don't look before crossing.

- Bennett Leeds
bennett@mv.us.adobe.com

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 95 12:54:35 EST
Subject: Insuring Series Vehs

Added my '60 109 SW to my USAA insurance when bought in 
Florida about 7 years ago.  Since I was Navy, I called back 
to Nevada DMV to get new plates for her from that state, 
where I had my "residence of record."  No inspections, and 
the prettiest plates in the USofA.  USAA simply asks what 
value you place on the veh, presumably that's what they pay 
if totaled, or upper limit of repair.  Of course, the higher 
value you give, the higher the premiums.  Other questions 
you have to answer include miles driven per year, with 
USAA's lower limit being 2000.  So I said $12,000 veh, 2000 
miles per year.  That's pretty close to my "investment" to 
date, and I don't think I've gone over 2k per year, except 
maybe the year I moved to DC area. 

Became a civilian in Maryland, and by law had to get their 
license, registration and plates.  Based on infrequent 
driving (for which I kept a log several years), vehicle age, 
and likely difficulty passing the Maryland veh inspection, 
registered her as "Historic."  No inspections in that or 
"Street Rod" category in Maryland, the caveat being only 
"occasional" driving other than events, etc.  Have kept same 
$12k/2k miles on insurance ever since.  I figure the $12k 
may be a fairly safe replacement value, as I would 
DEFINITELY seek out to reacquire as similar a veh as 
possible should my L-R get really squashed.  Also, I get her 
onto the roads only a few times per month -- enough to 
splash the oil around for mechanical health reasons.  So I 
feel pretty legal.

A guy once left a card on the windshield as an appraiser 
(still have it if anyone wants name. etc), but I simply save 
all the stuff RN and AB send about vehs for sale to make 
sure my declared USAA value will continue to cover possible 
replacement.  That may be the easiest, broadest, most 
reasonable "proof" of value that may be out there.  My 
household insurance is for "replacement," not for loss, so I 
guess I have a personnal philosophy at work.

Regards,
Hank

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Subject: Re: D90 oil change
From: skidmore@mail02.mitre.org (William E. Skidmore)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:06:51 -0400

>Sounds like a silly post huh? Well, today was the first time I changed the
oil on my D90 myself. What a mess!!....snip
>Any way I would appreciate any help.
                                        
Yeah, Brian-

I marked a milestone this past oil change - nothing spilled!

I use a tub that's about 1.5ft high, slide it under the oil pan, but 
offcenter, realizing that the oil does in fact pour out quite fast when the 
plug is first removed.
I make sure that I angle my hand/wrist in such a way as to hold onto the drain 
plug from the top side, not from the bottom or the outside surfaces.  This way 
my hand doesn't get covered with oil.
When it it done draining, I replace the old crush ring, and screw the drain 
plug back in.
BTW, 6 quarts without the filter change, 7 with.

Bill Skidmore

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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 10:17:20 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Bouncing Deer and Bars

 Jeremy Bartlett <jjbpears@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> CK: Besides, it lends a certain style to the already cool car.
  MC: How can you tell how cool the car is after attaching the bull bar? 
  JB: I would have thought an architect very familiar with the prinicples of
      style, design and appearance :)

 Exactly, you just can't see the bloody Disco (or whatever) through the bars!
  
> JB: P.S. I've taken your attitude to heart and made my bar deer friendly by
      welding diamond grate across the bars.  That way it can bounce off and
      its head won't get stuck and go through the radiator :)

 You better be at Palo Alto so that I can inspect the modifications!  Actually,
 I liked your earlier suggestion better (sorry I deleted it) --the one about
 sloping the bar to throw the game into the back and preping it for the freezer.
 If you had many litte horizontal triangular bars in front, the game could be
 neatly sliced.  No need to remove the game, by the time you drive home through
 the valley it'd be jerky!  Maybe we can all get bull-bar licenses from Fish &
 Game, and chase the buggers through fields and woods ...after all, that's what
 4x4's are for.  Ah yes.. the return of metal grilles, deer-bar recipes, etc.

 Clayton, Jeremy, we can work out the deatils over a brew at Palo Alto!  (I
 understand they are awarding little deer stick-ons to attach to the deer-bars,
 or the fenders of Rovers without bars.)  I'm slow, but I'm coming around!  qB)

 Michael "PC? NOT!" Carradine     ?        '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' at
 cs@crl.com                       _\    __   http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
                                 [__[__[__]
 __________________________=Oo+__(o)___(o)____________________________________

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:06:30 PDT
From: grea@net.gov.bc.ca (Gordon Rea 660-0216 (NTO Vanc.))
Subject: Gone Roving.

I dont know if this will make it to the list as I've just unsubscibed.
Before I go Roving for the next couple of week, I have one trivial question
that must be cleared up. Jeff Gauvin writes that one of the options 
of his D90 is "Beluga Black Paint".
Seems to me that "Beluga" is Russian for "White (Belo of Byelo) Whale"
What does this colour "White Whale Black" paint look like? 
Is this an oxymoron equivelent to the "Dodge Ram"?
G.

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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:01:01 +0800
From: dimitry@uask4it-101.Eng.Sun.COM (Dimitry Struve)
Subject: Unisyn dual carb tool FS

I still have my Unisyn bouncing around in my toolbox. I am sure
it hasn't been used for 15 years. But I intend to keep it forever.
Perhaps I'll polish it and put it on the mantlepiece.

-Dimitry

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From: JHobbs151@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:59:10 -0400
Subject: LRO

I need help in finding a few good sources for purchasing a Land Rover. I have
just recently become interested in the Land Rovers and wish to purchase an
older one in the next few months. I can count on one "finger" how many LR I
can remember seeing in my neck of the woods (Tennessee). From what little I
have read about them on the WWW and here, they seem to be a very rugged and
dependable on-road/off-road vehicle. How expensive are they to maintain and
what does the average 2-door model cost on the used market. I am not even
familiar with models, etc. to be more specific. I have been pricing used
Jeeps for several months but have decided too many people drive them and
well, I like the look of the Land Rover that I saw much better. Any
help/assistance would be greatly appreciated. Also, if someone can give me
some book titles on LRs that I can further "wet my appetite on" I would be
totally thrilled.

Jay Hobbs
jhobbs151@aol.com
73023.2374@compuserve.com

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From: jpappa01@interserv.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:53:18 PDT
Subject: Re: 	Misc.

- The Black 1994 D90 *WAS* a *limited* model - only 100 were made and were 
introduced in the Summer of 1994. They had grey leather seats - the first D90 
to offer the rear bench seat - also in leather. They were the only 100 `94s 
with black paint. A few of them came through with port-installed A/C and 
fender protection plates. It also introduced the stainless A-frame bull bar 
and matching SS running boards. Remember that black was not a regular 
production code until `95 - which replaced the Arles Blue color of the `94 
models. Regular `95 MY black D90s have same equipment as every other D90...

- The builders plate number between 19XX and the first `95's - also 19XX. The 
units are basically built in production batches... My `95 D90 is one of the 
earliest ones - an ex-LRNA factory D90. Latest build number at LRMW is 28XX. 
Latest models feature steering wheel chest pads with LR logo embossed into 
it...

- To the fellow discussing the 7/100 extended warranty for $1500 and saying 
that the *markup* is probably 100% if not more... Absolutely false. I can tell 
you with 100% certainty that the dealer cost of this warranty is well over 
$1000... The perception is still widespread that the dealer markup on 
everything is a zillion percent. It isn't. The profit margin in most models of 
Land Rover is approx. ten percent. Parts/accessories about 15-20%. Aftersale 
products such as extended warranties, etc. about 20 - 25%. $1500 for 7/100,000 
of peace of mind is cheap money in my book. One visit to the shop for a major 
uncovered repair will vaporize the cost of an ITT/GE extended warranty. They 
also give you the luxury of putting the extra coverage on at any time within 
the original factory warranty... 

cheerz
Jim - Rover and out...

`67 2A 88 5.0L Hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L Hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C Diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110 #457/500
`95 D90 #1958
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From: JAMES_CIRBUS@HPATC2.desk.hp.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:19:00 -0400
Subject: D-90 warranty issues

Greetings,

I thought I would write to compare notes on some warranty
issues.

I just had the D-90 in for it's 7500 mi. service.  ($232.31)
 I asked the local dealer to look at the A/C, misc. oil
leaks, and zippers on the top (tilt?).  When I returned to
pay settle the bill, the service writer informed me that the
techs had "tightened the oil pan bolts, replaced the seal on
the tranny drain plug, and charged the A/C."  (about now,
you are asking yourself, So what's the problem?)  The writer
also informed me that a local upholstery shop had installed
ONE zipper in the top.  (ahh, you say)  He finished by
saying that the truck was washed and ready to go.

By the time I came back to pick up the truck that evening,
this zipper thing had started to bother me.  While in the
lot, noticing that the truck had not been washed, I happened
across my salesman.  I asked him to check on Land-Rover's
policy on zippers for the D-90.  He informed me that their
policy is to replace the offending zipper, and ONLY the
offending zipper.  My question is, of course, is this what
other dealers are doing?

Sincerely,

p***ed off, or p***ed on?

Jim Cirbus
94 D-90
Sunbury, OH

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From: iharper@afm.org
Subject: S.Ontario Sighting
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 00:28:15 EST

Boy, the internet works fast....Went to see about a rover that was posted 
here on Tuesday, (Hwy 5 and 25, near burlington) as of Friday AM it's 
gone.  Did someone from the Net get it? What was it and haow much did it 
sell for?

---
 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 00:23:03 -0400
From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg)
Subject: Re: Insurance for U.S. Series Rovers

>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>Gang,
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>around to a subject I've been meaning to do, but have neglected.  That is -
>How do you U.S. citizens insure your Series Rovers?

I have negotiated value insurance on my Series IIa.  Essentially, you and
your insurance company agree on the value of the vehicle - in my case I
provided a copy of the restoration contract as proof of value - and you pay
insurance accordingly.

Ask your agent, it's a fairly common agreement.

Regards.

JAB

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg        Purple Shark Media              Rowayton, CT
                       jeff@purpleshark.com
                        ==================
                   Love is fine until you taste
          This melancholy bouillabaisse called letting go
                                                       Jimmy Buffett
==                                                                 ==

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