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1 | Randy Rose [rsrose@cco.c | 28 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
2 | TONY YATES [tonyy@waalp | 26 | Hot carbies |
3 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 25 | Re: Celluloid (was RE: wwwebery) |
4 | Cliff Kavanaugh [76262. | 11 | '88RR Trailer Harness Wiring |
5 | alex@theglebe.ftech.co.u | 19 | Codes query |
6 | Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs. | 42 | winch, bushes |
7 | Andrew Grafton [A.J.Graf | 43 | Re : winch, bushes |
8 | Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A | 17 | Re: More on the lights... and an idea |
9 | Gary Mitchelson [garym@c | 17 | [not specified] |
10 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 15 | Filums |
11 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 45 | Re :bushes |
12 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 29 | Re: Starting problems |
13 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 30 | Re:SPOTS |
14 | "David McKain" [MCKAIN@c | 33 | SPOT's |
15 | terje@tvnorge.no (Terje | 27 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
16 | hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co | 14 | Discovery Oil Filters |
17 | Andrew Grafton [A.J.Graf | 19 | Re : neverseeze |
18 | "Doug Sackinger" [DOUG@K | 34 | Squint like Clint |
19 | Andrew Grafton [A.J.Graf | 37 | SPOTS |
20 | Guy Arnold [GUY@facade.a | 43 | New Springs |
21 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 46 | LR sighting in Disneyland! |
22 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 33 | SPOTS |
23 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 41 | Re: SPOTS |
24 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 27 | Parts from the UK |
25 | Kirk Kenyon [kpk@imatron | 55 | Bike racks |
26 | matts@caciasl.com (Matt | 56 | Re: bike racks and LRs |
27 | Chris Haslam [haslam@alc | 9 | Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring |
28 | GElam30092@aol.com | 35 | Just musings |
29 | "Soren Vels Christensen" | 24 | Re: Celluloid |
30 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 12 | Re: SPOTS |
31 | rnewell@dircon.co.uk (Ru | 13 | SIII pulling to left on braking |
32 | growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.S | 36 | Re: New Springs |
33 | dimitry@uask4it.Eng.Sun. | 53 | Newbie Questions |
34 | hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co | 20 | Another Movie Sighting |
35 | Chris Haslam [haslam@alc | 9 | Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring (fwd) |
36 | Chris Haslam [haslam@alc | 9 | Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring |
37 | "Sean McInerney" [smcine | 34 | IRONY |
38 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 28 | Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List |
39 | matts@caciasl.com (Matt | 62 | Re: Discovery Trailer Wiring |
40 | JCassidyiv@aol.com | 12 | Getting half of digest |
41 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 15 | Movies |
42 | rmodica@east.pima.edu | 136 | LR movies |
43 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 33 | Re: Re : winch, bushes |
44 | JCassidyiv@aol.com | 26 | Need Advice |
45 | brian.imdieke@iotp.com ( | 29 | [not specified] |
46 | dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu | 51 | Re: SPOTS |
47 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 20 | Re: Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List |
48 | Peter Kutschera [peter@z | 30 | More SPOTs (Stupid Previous Owner Tricks) |
49 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 53 | OVLR Newsletter (Was: Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List) |
50 | Peter Kutschera [peter@z | 15 | Re: SIII pulling to left on braking |
51 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 24 | Re: SIII pulling to left on braking |
From: Randy Rose <rsrose@cco.caltech.edu> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Date: 24 Aug 1995 08:14:49 GMT Tony Chapman asks about hard starting: The best suggestion at the moment is that while it is standing the fuel in the carburettor is vapourising, causing delayed starting. We have had unusually high temperatures (high 80's F)in the UK over the last few weeks. I was wondering if anybody in some of the hotter parts of the world had similar problems, or is this not a problem on the L/R? What Ho! What wonderful winter weather. It seem to depend on the carb. 80 deg is not enough to cause apperciable boiling of gas. 104 is! Even then starting usually is a few extra turns. But it's hard to guess if this week's hard starting is due to temp or other of the latest reformulation of fuel. Really, as the temp goes up, run on gets worse, and is seems if you let it run on at all, starting is a bit harder. I'm running a Rochester carb., timing 3 deg., 7 to 1 Series II engine. Perhaps the low compression helps. Randy Los Angeles But then there's Ben and Kelly in and near Ridgecrest, getting close to Death Valley. ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:00:21 +0800 (WST) From: TONY YATES <tonyy@waalpha.wa.BoM.GOV.AU> Subject: Hot carbies Regarding starting problems in hot weather - yup i have had the same thing with two vehicles, the first a '79 Range Rover with automatic chokes. After replacing the carbies the problem seemed to go away. My current vehicle, an '85 110 V8 also does it but only after a long run. Interestingly it does it whether running on petrol or LPG. Generally I just park on a slope (which can sometimes be hard to find in inland Western Australia!). ========================================================== () ( ) () Tony Yates ( ) ( ) ( ) Bureau of Meteorology ( )( ) ( ) Port Hedland ( ) )( ) Western Australia ( ) ) -------- ------------ ph: (091) 401 350 \\\**\\**\ fax: (091) 401 100 \***\*\ \\*\ email: A.Yates@bom.gov.au \\ ========================================================== ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:49:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Celluloid (was RE: wwwebery) On 23 Aug 95, Soren Vels Christensen wrote: > # %T Clarence The Cross-Eyed Lion. > Is that a movie that Daktari is derived from? Yes > I remember having seen a Clint Eastwood film where he is a movie > director filming in Africa, but only has time to drive around in > Landies and hunt elephants. Is that one of those below?. If not, i'm Isn't it "White Hunter, Black Heart"? > sorry that i can't provide a title. (And i can't get used to Clint > speaking German with his mouth closed). Arn't you getting confused with the sound dubbing for "Emannuelle in Africa"? ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 24 Aug 95 05:58:37 EDT From: Cliff Kavanaugh <76262.1154@compuserve.com> Subject: '88RR Trailer Harness Wiring Matt please send info concerning which wires should be connected where on trailer harness. Who did you buy the trailer harness kit from? Cheers Cliff Kavanaugh. 76262.1154@compuserve.com 306 Clydesdale CT, Spotsylvania,Va 22553 1988 RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:24:50 +0100 From: alex@theglebe.ftech.co.uk (Alex) Subject: Codes query I am in the process of computerising the stock information of our Landrover workshop, and the quantity & variety of stock codes I need to create (one for each bit of all types of L/R,R/R, (both official L/R parts & generic) down to the last nuts & bolts) has me filled with despair. Does anyone know whether this information can be downloaded/obtained from anywhere. Please reply directly to me. Thanks Alex alex@theglebe.ftech.co.uk ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 20:29:18 +1000 From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> Subject: winch, bushes What on earth is a "receiver mounted winch" plsz. The chassis spring-bushes (S1-S3) can easily be removed by hack-sawing through them (pass blade through bush-hole). Once cut length wise they push out easily. If the bolt is seized in the bush I guess one could destroy the rubber by various means! (Use copper-coat on bolt on reassembly.) Getting the new [standard] bushes in is "another matter". I used various high-tensile bolts, washers and spacers to pull them in. What was the Clint Eastwood L-R movie, anyone ??? Mime - acronym derived from media, exchange, information, ..., blah Mime attachments are a set of codes that identify various sorts of data eg. gif, jpeg (images); au (sound); mpg (movie); ... There is a file (.mailcap on Unix) to map the mime type onto a program capable of interpreting the data, Netscape for example fires up the appropriate program to deal with an mpeg by looking in this file: e.g. image/jpeg; xv %s image/jpg; xv %s image/tiff; xv %s image/rgb; xv %s image/gif; xv %s video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s video/mpg; mpeg_play %s video/*; xanim +Ae +CF4 +Sr %s audio/x-aiff; playaiff %s audio/x-aifc; sfplay %s audio/basic; sfplay %s audio/x-mpeg; maplay -; stream-buffer-size=2000 application/postscript; ghostview -notitle -nodate -nolocator -magstep 0 -a4 %s I think the name mailcap comes from "multi-media" mailers that first used this idea. Lloyd Dept. of Computer Science, Monash University, Clayton, Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA tel: 61 3 9905 5205 fax: 61 3 9905 5146 email: lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au <A HREF="http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/">Land-Rover</A> ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re : winch, bushes Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:31:16 BST > What on earth is a "receiver mounted winch" plsz. No idea! > The chassis spring-bushes (S1-S3) can easily be removed by hack-sawing through them (pass blade through bush-hole). Once cut length wise they push out easily. > If the bolt is seized in the bush I guess one could destroy the rubber by various means! (Use copper-coat on bolt on reassembly.) > Getting the new [standard] bushes in is "another matter". I used various high-tensile bolts, washers and spacers to pull them in. Aaargh! "easily removed", he says ;-) Spring bushes and rear chassis bushes, OK - hacksaw and chisel/drift is fine. Front bushes... maybe I have just been unlucky but those buggers can be seriously cold-welded into the chassis. It *is* possible to get them out by manual means :-) - it took six hours and 3 chisels to do one of ours (a mere 18 years old). That was after putting four full depth/length cuts in the bush outer with a hacksaw and burning off all the rubber with a propane torch. After that, we resorted to an air chisel and oxy/acetylene, which made the job easier but still not a cinch. I echo comments about the need for high-tensile bolts and *hard* washers to put the new ones in! Delicate filing with an angle grinder removed the bush inner metal tube from the shackle bolts, where they had siezed solid.... Is there something wrong with my technique here, or do other people have problems with front chassis bushes?! One little point is that the Copper Ease we have been using washes out. Next time I'm going to use boat grease for suspension reassembly. All the best, Andy A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> Date: 24 Aug 95 7:31:22 EDT Subject: Re: More on the lights... and an idea Yes, we were dealing with a hacked panel. Thanks for the help, one and all! I'd never get this beast on the road again otherwise. Here's a topic for conversation: Stupid Previous Owner Tricks, or SPOTs. What's the wost thing any of you ever ran into on your Rovers that was done by a previous owner? I think my least-favorite was finding the Bondo in the frame rails on my 109, back at the spring mounts...brrrrr! Any more? -Alan ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Discovery oil filter Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:41:07 -0500 From: Gary Mitchelson <garym@cais.cais.com> -- [ From: Gary Mitchelson * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Has anyone found a easy to find oil filter for the Discovery in the US? The only oil filter cross I found was Purolator, they list all the 95's, but no one has that filter. The Purorlator crosses to a Fram HP-1 but that is not stocked and cost $13. Per the Fram book the HP-1 can replace the FP-8a which costs only $3 Has anyone used the 8a? I would be changing it every 3K. -- Gary Mitchelson garym@racalrecord.com N3JPU ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Filums Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:49:00 DST |Soren Vels Christensen writes | I remember having seen a Clint Eastwood film where he is a movie director | filming in Africa, but only has time to drive around in Landies and hunt | elephants. Is that one of those below?. The movie is called White Hunter Black Heart and wasn't on the list. Trevor Easton ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 07:09:32 GMT -0600 Subject: Re :bushes Andrew Grafton writes: Snip > Aaargh! "easily removed", he says ;-) > Spring bushes and rear chassis bushes, OK - hacksaw [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)] > we resorted to an air chisel and oxy/acetylene, which made the job easier > but still not a cinch. I echo comments about the need for high-tensile > bolts and *hard* washers to put the new ones in! Snip > Is there something wrong with my technique here, or do other people have > problems with front chassis bushes?! That sounds remarkably like my experience. Plus I had the additional pleasure of doing in in January in VT. Outdoors. I had the local machine shop make me a couple of drivers to fit the bushes. They are from 1 1/2" round stock with a recess turned in the end that the bush fits in. Still not easy though. Then I found out that my frame was slightly crumpled in the area of the front bush, so I attributed my difficulty to that. Guess I was wrong. The front frame bush on the 109 is longer than the others, and no-one had any at the time. I cut a short one in half and put a spacer between the two halves. > One little point is that the Copper Ease we have been using washes out. > Next time I'm going to use boat grease for suspension reassembly. I'll say it again. Use NeverSeeze brand anti seeze compund. It won't wash out. In fact it's hard to get it off your hands if you get it on them. Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 24 Aug 95 08:01:44 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Starting problems >> Over the past few weeks I have been having problems with starting my >> 2286 petrol SIIA when it has been standing for more than 15 minutes. >My SIII V8 used to give helluva trouble starting when warm when I lived in >Alice Springs - particularly in summer when the temp. is commonly in All very familiar. Always had this problem with the 109 in hot areas (Mediterranean, North Africa). If I wasn't in a hurry, I simply let it cool off with bonnet open. If I was, I first pulled the fuel line from the carb to release vapour and pressure (no smoking, please!), put it back on, and then got out the water can and liberally poured cool water over both fuel pump and carb until they didn't sizzle any more and stayed wet. Manually primed the fuel pump, and it would start right up. Never failed. The thermostat-controlled electric Kenlow fan I installed later didn't completely solve the problem either, but it did improve (the fan continues running 3-4 minutes after the engine is shut off). Source of the problem actually is fuel expanding and evaporating in the fuel pump, carb, and the fuel line between pump and carb. When the thus created pressure exceeds the pressure the pump is able to deliver, fuel pump action is neutralized and no more fuel reaches the carb. Hence, the problem is aggravated by old fuel pumps with sloppy membranes. Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 07:20:21 GMT -0600 Subject: Re:SPOTS Alan Richter asks: Snip > Here's a topic for conversation: Stupid Previous Owner Tricks, > or SPOTs. What's the wost thing any of you ever ran into on your [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > rails on my 109, back at the spring mounts...brrrrr! > Any more? -Alan Welding the swivel pins to the top and bottom of the swivel housing. Or was it welding the capstan winch shaft to the crank pully, which was done on another LR I had for awhile? Different PO's even. same mechanics school I guess. Actually, this idea might be good for a FAQ (yeah, I know it's not technically correct{TC?}). Certainly it would be things to look for when inspecting a LR. There you go. Alan's SPOTSFAQs. Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David McKain" <MCKAIN@cemr.wvu.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:28:08 EDT Subject: SPOT's Here are a few SPOT's for your entertainment value. 1.) Put brakes shoes on backwards? No problem, just weld a homemade cam onto the back of the cam adjusters so it will ride on the brake backing pad. Remember, the post is now sticking out on the rear brake shoe. Don' even ask about the springs and where they go. 2.) Hey, to prolong the life of your LR, especially the aluminum body, spray about 50 lbs of rustproofing around the underside. 3.) Homemade fender wells? Need I say more. 4.) Does your LR need a paint job? How about hand painting it a wonderful black/green camo. Better yet, use the industrial paint and apply it with a paint brush. Be sure to put it on extra thick over the bondo jobs. and many, many more. Take care, David McKain 1966 SIIa Petrol mckain@faculty.coe.wvu.edu (304) 599-0120 Morgantown, WV USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:37:43 +0200 From: terje@tvnorge.no (Terje Krogdahl) Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest >fuel in the carburettor is vapourising, causing delayed starting. .. >the last few weeks. I was wondering if anybody in some of the >hotter parts of the world had similar problems, or is this not a >problem on the L/R? After I changed from Zenith to Weber on my SIII 88, I've often experienced this problem on hot, sunny days here in Norway, but only with the engine nice and warm. Seems to me that if you wait 10-15 minutes before you restart there is no problem, but before that, it can be a problem. Sometimes you cannot start, other times you just get a trickle of fuel through, so that it idles just fine, but died once you hit the pedal. A friend of mine with the same engine/carb combination has exactly the same problems. TK 1972 SIII 88 http://www.tvnorge.no/~terje/index.e.hmtl >. ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:37:05 EST Subject: Discovery Oil Filters Have heard Fram PH-8A works fine. Have also used the current Lee filter that is listed for 94 RR 3.9 on my 95 Discovery 3.9. I'm sure there are others, too; the hard part is finding a listing that specifically includes 95 Discovery, but like I said, check under 84 RR with same engine. Hank ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re : neverseeze Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:49:41 BST Tom says; > I'll say it again. Use NeverSeeze brand anti seeze compund. It won't > wash out. In fact it's hard to get it off your hands if you get it on them. Anyone in the UK or US know if we can get this in the UK? (Just for reference - I've never spotted it yet) All the best, Andy A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Doug Sackinger" <DOUG@KIWI.IUPUI.EDU> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 07:56:31 EST Subject: Squint like Clint I saw this film on TV also. 'White Hunter, Black Heart' (1984-5 ?) yeah, Clint Eastwood is movie director ( a la John Huston ?) on location in Africa and much mroe interested in drinking and shooting elephants than shooting the film. At least a couple of SII 109"'s. I taped it so I could slo-mo and freeze frame, if only I had a video-capture board..... :-) Didn't realize Clint Eastwood was such a talented ventriloquist but then again he is a politician, right ? Still lurking, Doug - IIa 109 SW - in my dreams. - '65 Chevy 1/2-ton PU - in my garage, up on blocks :-( Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:17:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk> Subject: Celluloid (was RE: wwwebery) I remember having seen a Clint Eastwood film where he is a movie director filming in Africa, but only has time to drive around in Landies and hunt elephants. Is that one of those below?. If not, i'm sorry that i can't provide a title. (And i can't get used to Clint speaking German with his mouth closed). ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk> Subject: SPOTS Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:08:42 BST A couple more; * Fibreglass all the way around the roof/body join to prevent leaks. Whitewash (no joke) the resulting mess. * Remove roof panel above driver/passenger with jigsaw and then attempt to fibreglass it back in. Finish as above. * Rebore one cylinder of a 4-cylinder diesel 20 thou' oversize, leaving the others as-is. * Attempt to fix a halfshaft be welding the end back on with a stick welder. Make to fit by gratuitous application of angle grinder. * Refit rocker assembly without making any attempt to match up the tapered oil feed connections, crushing them into oblivion with excessive torque on the head bolts. * Attempt to re-pipe series water overflow tank thingy as a reservoir (what pressure?!) And on a different note, my two 'favourite' Stupid Manufacturer's Tricks; * The Charge Light. * The way servo-assist brakes are fitted to a SIII diesel. All the best, Andy ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Guy Arnold <GUY@facade.adm.clarkson.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:28:51 EDT Subject: New Springs I just purchased a set of rear springs for my 73 Series III from Rover's North. The "Green Machine" was squatting like it was taking a pee. The new springs are identical with the same part number. Last night I started the job by jacking the vehicle up and supporting the frame and then I put jack stands under the axle. I removed the brackets holding the brake lines and removed the wheels for better access to the U-bolts. When I ordered the springs I also ordered new u-bolts and spring bolts. I then I got my torches out and cut off the U-bolts. At this point I realized that the gas tank would have to come off to get the front spring bolt out. I have the new style gas tank with the rounded shape and it extends down far enough that the bolt won't clear the tank. Taking the tank out was no problem because I had just installed it about a month ago. Simply unhook the fill tube, sending unit, and gas line plus four mounting bolts and out it came. I unscrewed the nuts on the spring bolts on the right side spring with alittle ( actually alot) of WD-40 and a few wacks with the hammer and out came the bolts and off came the spring. The left side was another matter. The nuts came off easy but the bolt would not come out. The front bolt had rusted to the bushing and the whole bushing was turning. I tried lots and lots of WD_40 and much pounding on the bolt with the biggiest hammer I have to no avail. The rear bolt came out of the spring shackle with no problem. I then decided to do what I should have done in the first place and that it is to use my sawsall with a hacksaw blade and cut the bolt on either side of the spring inside the hanger. Two minutes later the spring was laying on the floor. I took the bottom plates and the plates the brake lines bolt to and clean them and painted everything. I could have had everything back together last night but I had to wait for the paint to dry. So tonight I will bolt everything back together and also put a complete set of new brake shoes on all around. I decided to put the new shoes on before going to Stowe because I usually go through the Notch and I didn't want to have any problems coming down the mountain. Especially since my wife will probably be in front of me with out 1960 MGA 1600 roadster. I am kinda of curious to see how it rides and handles with the new springs. ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 24 Aug 95 09:36:55 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: LR sighting in Disneyland! Funny how this has never been reported... during the vacations, when I was going through Euro-Disney with the kids, we came across a beautyful - i.e. totally banged up - S.IIA 109 Station Safari that is sitting there as an *attraction* in 'Adventureland' just across Aladdin's cave, loaded up with all sorts of weird safari and adventure gear. One rear door that is missing has been reconstructed on a wooden frame with animal hide and attached to the original hinges, it has an australian style rhino bar (flat and arch-like) a sun shield made from palm leaf, and an ingenious roof rack hand-made from bamboo! It keeps in place simply by the feet of the rack having been driven through the sun roof... I naturally inspected this vehicle very thouroughly and noticed that the engine and entire drivetrain including propshafts were missing. Talked up one of the costumed Disney droids who were loitering about, inquired about the Land Rover (he had the nerve to say "...oh, you mean the Jeep", so he obviously wasn't competent) and was refered to a Mr. so-and-so at the information desk at "Town Hall" in "Main Street, U.S.A." Found the guy there, and with a big grin he pointed outside in front of Town Hall where a beautifully restored, shiny canary yellow chrome-blinking antique american cabriolet was standing, something like a 1928 Packard (I think). Approached the vehicle, and already from a distance I immediately noticed that unmistakeable shape of the oil pan of a 4-cyl. Land Rover engine looking out from underneath. Looked under the car, and there it all was: 2.25 l 4-cyl. Rover petrol engine, S.IIA tranny, hand brake drum, and propshafts, all clean and painted in turquoise green and black. The rear propshaft had been extended with a kind of drum-shaped flange to mate it to the original axle. It suited the antique car perfectly: Both engine and tranny were leaking oil and leaving spots, the engine sputtered, clacked and clattered happily with its old worn valves, and it trailed a quaint little smoke screen behind when chugging up and down Main Street, it couldn't have looked and sounded more original. Later that day I also noticed an old rebuilt S.F. fire engine that was fitted with what was obviously a Salisbury rear axle from a S.III 109. So, now you know the choice of Disney when it comes to powering their antique cars: Components from old Land Rover junkers. Oh yes, of course I did ask the info peron at Town Hall why this was so, his answer was: "Parts from Land Rovers look much older and more antique than they really are, _and_ you can still get cheap spare parts..." There you are. - BTW I took pictures of both vehicles. Any Web site interested? Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: SPOTS Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:56:27 BST *Removing the hardtop in summer,then putting it back using only half the bolts.(Look,mum,arent I clever, I've got *loads* left over!) *Replacing the head gasket,and not torquing it down *twice*. This on a 2 1/4 diesel. *Leaving the gear lever attached to the box by only its rearmost studs.Needless to say,without the cover plate over the bellhousing as well. *Replacing the dynamo brushes,when the commutator resembled a power station cooling tower in shape. *Rewiring to use a single 12V battery,instead of two 6V. A good idea,but *not* using 440v earth cable for the job! The resultant fire was interesting......... *Attaching the starter motor with 2 out of 3 bolts.(Another one for his collection). *Filling the air filter with oil.To the top! *Telling me he was an engineer. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:49:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> Subject: Re: SPOTS On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Mike Rooth wrote: > *Filling the air filter with oil.To the top! :-) :-) :-) I have seen expanding foam used to fill large gaping holes in the frame, sculpted smooth and painted black to pass the MOT. Seen bumper *under* riders Electrical systems rewired in pastel coloured wires, using a heavier gauge wire because the original is inadequate, and to a unique PO wiring system because LR didn't know how to wire it properly (The first time one was was started it promptly caught fire, wouldn't stop the engine... A few mods were done to solve theys, er, deficiencies) Also seen rewqiring jobs to the factory diagram all in one colour. Just picked up a spool of wire and went to it... In the questionable catagory, ie great on paper, but on the off-road? Flip front ends where wings bonnet et al flip up exposing the entire engine bay (now if you are in deep water, you can't open the bonnet to let it spray out etc etc...) Quite a few of this particular mod up here in Canada. Coil overs. Using porsche racing coil springs between the spring and frame to aid tired leaf springs. Honda coils work well too. (This mod the PO put onto my Little Earth Pig) Plating the entire frame with more steel... Seen up to 1/2" plate used on one particular frame... Using 2x4's to strengthen frames, bolted on with huge u-bolts. Using diesel fuel in the rad as a coolant (one of my 109 PU's came with this one...) ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:29:07 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Parts from the UK FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Parts from the UK Hi David! How's the 107? I'm about to order parts from AEW Paddock, totaling around $700 sterling. (over $1000 US) plus shipping. As you know, I'm in Arizona, don't know it that helps at all. I'm ordering front/rear springs too. Getting diesel 88 drivers side for both sides, and 1 ton shackles front and rear. (should give 1" -2" lift- right? Can anyone confirm this??) Also a transmission, 5-8" wide white spoke rims, brake drum, roof rack, etc... so the weight is already substantial. Have you ordered from UK before? Any tips? This is my first order, and I was thinking about calling them Today, or Tomorrow morning (close to noon Friday for them). On second thought, I'll copy this to the list, any tips anyone? Thanks, Dave (crazy with Roveritis) Brown #=======# Never doubt that a small group of individuals |__|__|__\___ can change the world... indeed, it's the only | _| | |_ |} thing that ever has. "(_)""""""(_)" -Margaret Mead ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:07:42 PDT From: Kirk Kenyon <kpk@imatron.com> Subject: Bike racks I have a Performance Bicycle Shop catalog here, and it lists several possible racks: 1> Performance Hitch Mount Bicycle Racks All hold 3 bikes: 1a> XPORT-Standard Mounts to the hitch ball via a bolt, so rear door access is obstructed. US$99.99 part. 39-4202A 1b> XPORT-Extra Above, but with a quick release mechanism, to allow rear door access by removing the rack from the mounting plate. US$139.99 part. 39-4201A 1c> XPORT-Extra Receiver Hitch Carrier Same as the Extra, (has a quick release), but mounts to a 2" receiver hitch. US$139.99 part. 00-6618A US$29.99 part. 00-7190A Hitch Extension for use w/spare tires 2> Rhode Gear Spare Tire Shuttle Holds 2 bikes, mounting on the spare tire. This would avoid the problem of rear door access, perhaps. The centering support arms lit you center your bike behind the Rover, if the spare tire is mounted off-center. US$89.99 part. 00-6449A The racks are available through: Performance Bicycle Shop One Performance Way P.O. Box 2741 Chapel Hill, NJ 27514-2741 1-800-727-2453 Though they also have about 30 local shops located throughout the States (mostly CA, IL, PA, MD, VA, CO, NC, WA & OR). The shipping charges seem quite modest at US$6.50 for regular and US$10.90 for Canadian addresses. (US Mail or UPS.) They also accept international orders: 1-919-933-9113 or fax 1-919-967-3979. I have never bought anything from them myself, but they seem to be a reputable outfit. -Kirk (a future Discovery owner - after I finish my house!) ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:13:47 -0700 From: matts@caciasl.com (Matt Snyder) Subject: Re: bike racks and LRs >1. Does it swing away to allow rear door use? > I think you answered this "no" in your second post. The model I have does not, but there's a more expensive model that does. On that more expensive model, the fitting where the rack attaches to the trailer hitch is articulated, and you just pull out a pin and it can move. However, it moves this way: ------ \ --> rover \ / rack ___/___/ ( ) In words, it drops towards the ground. You could do this with the bikes on, but it would probably be very awkward. With bikes off, it seemed to me I could just as easily pull out the pin on the trailer hitch and remove the whole assembly, so I opted for the cheaper model. >2. Four bike or 2 bike? Three actually. I found that two are most comfortable, with the middle space emtpy, but it can carry three. >3. Price? I'm afraid I don't remember, but you can call Performance: 800-727-2453. >4. Care to comment on how well you like it? Sure, I like it very much, I think it's the most convenient way yet to carry bikes on a car. I also regularly attach it to the trailer hitch of my Volvo sedan, and it leaves plenty of room to open the trunk. I might also add that there's a hole in the fitting that attaches to the hitch, by which you can cable-lock it to the vehicle if your hitch isn't secure. There's also a good size hole in the horizontal member, and a corresponding one in the plate that covers it, and I usually attach a pad lock there when I leave the vehicle unattended. >5. What's the name of the rack? (Thule, etc.) It has the words Max Rack painted on it, which is, as far as I can tell, a relabelling that Performance puts on it. In other words, as far as I know you can only get it from Performance, but I wouldn't be surprised if the exact same rack appeared with a different label somewhere else. >Thanks. I'll pass the info on to others looking, if you don't mind. Certainly. -Matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring Your offer to tell us about trailer wiring sounds great. I, for one, would appreciate it if you would write it up. ...chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:04:22 -0400 Subject: Just musings chrisz@bnr.ca writes: > I noticed that WARN has a receiver mounted winch. Anyone know the weight rating for this puppy? Has anyone ever tried to mount a front receiver on the Discovery? Yes... I have the Warn mounted on a received mounted on a Disco. (And I can call it a Disco with out any problems.) The winch is rated at 8000 lbs (Warn X8000i). The received mounts to the frame using the same points as the front bumper with slightly longer bolts (x 2 for each side). It is a very clean setup but it reduces the approach angle significantly. The option is to keep it inside until needed but the danger is the hassle of getting it out & attached while in a real mess. I also purchased the longer electrical cable for use in the rear. Be careful when mouting the receiver. Trying to get it lined up with the frame and with the bumper is difficult for one person since the mount weighs at least 50 lbs. > rvirzi@gte.com writes: I imagine a thief pulling a pin out and walking off with all four bikes and the rack in about 2 seconds. The same is true with any received mounted accessories. You can pick up a pin/lock combination from U-Haul for about $10. It is rated at 10,000 lbs. > Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> chimes in with the movie list. Where can I get a copy of "Emanuelle in Africa" .. I'd really like to see the LR's in it! Gerry '95 Disco "The Great White Hope" (Why: it's a white LR with questionable electrics and I'm hoping that it doesn't begin to leak or spark in the near future!) ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:26:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Soren Vels Christensen" <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk> Subject: Re: Celluloid In message Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:49:42 +0000, Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> writes: > Isn't it "White Hunter, Black Heart"? >> sorry that i can't provide a title. (And i can't get used to Clint [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)] > Arn't you getting confused with the sound dubbing for "Emannuelle in > Africa"? I don't think so. I never saw Emanuelle in Africa. But i started a discussion on another "movie" in the same category sometime ago. People were driving around in a Santana and spent the afternoon with physical activities. Like the girl that mounted a sheik and jumped up and down. No wonder she went "Oooh aaah oooh" after riding a leaf sprung Santana all day. There's nothing like sattelite television to extend one's horizon. cheers sv/aurens - ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:54:42 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> Subject: Re: SPOTS The previous owner only knew to put oil in the engine. He drove it all over the Western US. When the rear diff dried up & broke, he put it into 4 wheel and drove it on front wheel drive for another year untill the transfer case went dry (luckally near his house). He had it towed home & there it sat for almost 3 years before I came along. Oh well it did get me a US$ 350 109 two door pickup. TeriAnn ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 20:14:50 +0000 From: rnewell@dircon.co.uk (Russell Newell) Subject: SIII pulling to left on braking I have a 1980 SIII ex military LWB radio truck. When I brake it pulls to the left. I have had all 8 wheel cylinders and brake assembly cleaned and serviced, no contamination, etc. but the problem won't go away. What could it be, tracking, swivel housing/pin, steering components?? It has been standing for 5 years in a NATO warehouse and has 12000 genuine miles on the clock. Mechanically very sound, think it's great. Russell Newell, London ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:49:20 -0700 From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Subject: Re: New Springs > I started the job by jacking the vehicle up and supporting > the frame and then I put jack stands under the axle. >I removed the >brackets holding the brake lines and removed the wheels for better >access to the U-bolts. I suggest that there is a safer way to do this: Do one spring at a time. >>Do not remove the wheels<<* Jack up the frame just enough to place a ~5" wood block(s) between the axle and the rubber frame bumper. Lower the frame so the weight rests on the wood blocks/wheel. Place a bottle jack under the spring, in the center of the U-bolts. Loosen the U-bolt nuts. Let the tension off the spring by lowering the bottle jack. remove shock(AR), shackles, sping bolt, spring. Replace frame bushings (AR), this *is* the fun part. Reassemble in reverse order; Hang the spring, lift to meet the U-bolts with the bottle jack, install nuts, no sweat. You might have to loosen the U-bolt nuts, just a little, on the other side, to line up the pin. The truck is never up on jack stands, with you underneath, banging on the bushings or leavering things into place. It can't fall on you, even if you knocked the wooden block out. Regards, Bill G. *you might have to remove the rear wheels if you are replacing the shocks as part of the project, depening on which way the top bolts are installed, tire size. Do the top of the rear shocks first or last. ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:57:11 +0800 From: dimitry@uask4it.Eng.Sun.COM (Dimitry Struve) Subject: Newbie Questions Greetings - I have just subscribed to the list and would like to ask what has perhaps been a frequent question: I'd like feedback on buying a new Discovery or late model Range Rover as a daily driver/occasional offroader/fairly frequent snow vehicle. My Land Rover knowledge is limited to having had a friend in high school who's folks had an 88" SII, and knowing couple of guys here at work with simlar vintage LR's. I have narrowed my choices to, in addition to Rovers, the FJ80 Land Cruiser or a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I like the Jeep on-road, it has a good offroad reputation, but it is not very roomy and the reliability reputation is iffy. I currently drive a 4wd Ford Ranger with manual hubs so I wouldn't characterize myself as a yuppie wannabe :) Well not completely anyway. But between the Ford and my wife's Corolla, I am used to pretty seamless reliability. Planned usage: short urban commute; frequent trips with wife and two kids on freeway and twisty mountain two lane to cabin; access to cabin in winter on poorly plowed road (1 - 2 feet snow depth not uncommon); occasional (5 - 10 times/year) offroad use on true 4wd but non-winch type trails. Questions: Disco vs Range Rover pros and cons (assume new 5 spd Disco and similarly priced [92/93] used Range Rover). I am not interested in any of the bells and whistles on the RR - I am looking for a basic but modern 4x4. But if RRs work better or are more reliable I would like to know. Reliability - would a used de-bugged unit be better than new? Best year/model Range Rover Pros and cons of LWB Range Rover (ie is legroom that much better, is air suspension a big benefit or problem, etc) Will I feel intimidated about taking it offroad (not currently a problem with my pickup) (For SF Bay Area residents: recommended dealer for purchase or service) Any other advice, encouragement, warnings, etc. Please don't tell me to buy a SII or III; I want AC, power steering, power, etc :) Thanks in advance; I would especially like to hear from US owners but all feedback is greatly appreciated. -Dimitry ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 15:46:46 EST Subject: Another Movie Sighting Another movie not on the recent extensive posting: About a week ago saw "Sniper" on TV. Tom Beringer, I think, was main star. Story line was USMC sniper with green sidekick sent to knock off some drug lord. At one point, the main bad guy comes roaring into his compound in a .....Discovery. I think the movie predates Disco availability in US by a couple of years, so the veh must have been acquired "on location" shortly after launch of the type. Theme: "One shot -- one kill. No exceptions." Talk about attitude! Hank ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:59:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring (fwd) Your offer to tell us about trailer wiring sounds great. I, for one, would appreciate it if you would write it up. ...chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:02:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca> Subject: Disco/Range Rover trailer wiring Your offer to tell us about trailer wiring sounds great. I, for one, would appreciate it if you would write it up. ...chris ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 24 Aug 1995 14:32:45 -0500 From: "Sean McInerney" <smcinerney@mail.nrgn.com> Subject: IRONY IRONY Hello all... Just thought that I would relate a message left under the windshield of the beast while it sat in our company parking lot: If you are ever interested in selling your Land Rover please call me. I would be very interested my number is <# withheld> The irony comes from my efforts to sell my 94 Acura, which incidentally has not been driven in 3 months and would not start when attempted yesterday due to an unknown battery drain. I was getting it ready to show to a potential buyer...it is at the dealer now...MUCH more complicated than Lucas electronics! When I sell it (hopefully Friday), I can buy another LR...already found one in need of a home and a frame. Maybe I will call this person saying that it is a special limited edition worth tens of thousands. I could say that its beluga bronze green...you know, the color of caviar after its been in the woods for 32 years. 8*) Sean C. McInerney 1963 SIIa 88"...currently Bronze and topless...unlike its owner __________AND__NOT__FOR__SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!_________________ ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:05:27 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List 'Rumpole of the Bay-Lee' says, Mike Hoskins is working on supplying a backer plate for brakes on the Series vehicles. This would allow the use of American brake shoes and parts, including wheel cylinders. Advantages are the use of cheap and available American parts, larger brake shoes/surface area which equals better stopping, a handbrake at the wheel, and they are self adjusting, etc. If interested in this brake system call or write Mike below, or email me at <cs@crl.com>. Check out the Series Land-Rover Aftermarket Parts List at http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html provided by Mike Hoskins of Mid America Rover, 10708 College Ave., Kansas City, MO 64137 USA Phone/Fax 816-763-3797. It's modest, but a good start. -Michael Carradine '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' Michael Carradine, Architect Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 Carradine Studios, PO Box 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 USA <cs@crl.com> _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:46:59 -0700 From: matts@caciasl.com (Matt Snyder) Subject: Re: Discovery Trailer Wiring >As an Discovery owner with the trailer wiring installed, >I would definitely be interested in seeing the wiring >diagram written up and post! Below is the diagram. Making the assumption that my wiring harness (intended for a range rover) and yours are compatible, the colors on the rover side should be the same. Note that some wires go unused. I don't use the rover's ground wire, because I usually tow U-Haul trailers, and the ground connection is made where the trailer touches the tow hitch ball. If your trailer works the same way, and your tow hitch ball is covered with something non-conductive (I sometimes put oil on mine), you'll need a wire going from some bare piece of metal on the rover to some bare piece of metal on the trailer. I also don't use the backup light wire, since U-Haul trailers don't have 'em. On the trailer side, I use a standard off-the-shelf 4-pin trailer plug. There are two kinds, one with 4 wires, intended to be used when your vehicle's turn signal and brake light are the same bulb, and one with 5 wires, intended to be used when the vehicle has separate (usually amber) turn signal bulbs. Obviously, I should have used the 5-wire one, but the 4-wire one's cheaper, and the only difference is that the 5-wire one has the diodes built in. If you end up with a 5-wire plug on the trailer side, you can at least use my diagram to know what the wires in the wiring harness do. My guess is the connections will be the same, except that red from the harness will connect directly to the 5th wire. I'm afraid my diagram says B for one of the wires, and I think that probably means brown, but I'll have to confirm it when I get home tonight. |< means diode @ means bulb ground ---------+---------------------------------+----------- | | LEFT | | RIGHT | | running | break/turn break/turn | running light | light light | light +-@-+ | +-@-+ +-@-+ | +-@-+ +-+ +--+--+ +-+ +-+ +--+--+ +-+ | | | | | +---|<--+-->|---+ | | | | | | | | | | | /\ | | | | | trailer |brown green| | yellow| brown| . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . . | . . . | . . . | . . . . . . . . | . . . . . rover | | | | | \/ | yellow| red| green| | | | +-------------------------+-------------------------+ | |b -Matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JCassidyiv@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:28:51 -0400 Subject: Getting half of digest Is anyone else connected to America Online having problem with the Digest. I download my mail and then I can only read half of it! The message at the top says that to read the rest, I should download the file. WHen I attempt to download it, it says I already have. Help, I'm missing out on half the fun! Cheers ! John Cassidy ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:06:36 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Movies The Clint Eastwood - elephant hunting film is "White Hunter Black Heart" where he plays a director trying to shoot a movie but is more concerned with shooting elephants. Two very early Series II 88's in dozens of scenes. *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: rmodica@east.pima.edu Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 20:21:08 MST Subject: LR movies Great list Lloyd. I merged your list with one from an article in the Aluminum Workhorse by Wendell Cotton. Excuse the caps, but I couldn't think of how else to show the additions. Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:49:50 +1000 From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au> Subject: wwwebery Talking of lists, here is the film list, any notable omissions? THE AIR UP THERE Africa Express ALICE TO NOWHERE AMERICAN NINJA IV An Angel at My Table THE BEAST MUST DIE Bad Boys BARBARIANS AT THE GATE THE BLACK WEREWOLF Born Free This is Callan Casper Children of the Damned CHRISTIAN THE LION Clarence The Cross-Eyed Lion. Clear and Present Danger Cliffhanger. Close Encounters of the Third Kind CODENAME: WILDGEESE Congo Crack In The World Cry Freedom Daar doer in die Bosveld DARK HORSE Darling Buds of May DEADLOCK DEADLY BEES Dr. No Dr. Who The Dogs of War Dry White Season Dumb and Dumber AN ELEPHANT NAMED SLOWLEY Emanuelle in Africa ESCAPE FROM PARADISE Four Weddings and a Funeral. The Fourth Protocol FX GIANT BEHEMOTH The Gods Must be Crazy. Gold GOLD OF THE AMAZON WOMEN Gorillas in the Mist GUNS AT BATASI HAPPY BIRTHDAY WANDA JUNE Heart-Beat HIGHLANDER THREE High Risk HIGH FLIGHT Hunt for Red October Ice Cold in Alex IN A FARAWAY PLACE Island of Terror The Italian Job Jake Speed Judge Dredd Killer Force The Lair of the White Worm LAST FRONTIER THE LAST SAFAFI LATE FOR DINNER Lethal Ninja The List of Adrian Messenger The Living Daylights. Living Free Love Affair The Man With The Golden Gun. Mogambo Mountain Rescue NAVY SEALS OCTOPUSSY OMEGA MAN ON THE WINGS OF EAGLES Orca Outbreak The Pacific Ocean Packin' It In The Passenger PASSION AND PARADISE Patriot Games Peter's Friends The Player Point Break PYROTECHNICS QUIET THUNDER Revenge of the Pink Panther RED DAWN RED SCORPION THE RIGHT STUFF Romancing The Stone Roxanne THE SERPENT AND THE RAINBOW THE SERPENT OF DEATH Shark aka Maneater SKELETON COAST Sheena Simba 633 Squadron Stand By Me. SUDDEN TERROR THREE MEN AND A LITTLE LADY THE TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS The Ugly American Watcher in the Woods WHITE HUNTER BLACK HEART Wild Geese Wild Geese II On Wings of Eagles Wolf Emanuelle in Africa ! sheesh. Lloyd I haven't seen but a few of these and can't testify that there really are Land Rovers in the rest. Some of these might also be US TV movies. Rob Modica 51 SI 80" 60 109 Safari Tucson, Az 94 Disco 5spd "Casper" ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Re : winch, bushes The lads abroad haven't a clue.... > > What on earth is a "receiver mounted winch" plsz. > No idea! / This is a winch for wimps that want a winch but don't want the bugger hanging out in front of (or behind) the vehicle. Ok.. I'll be fair. The "receiver" is (I believe) the square tube that is up under the rear bumper (usually). A smaller sized square tube with a tow ball fits snugly into the reciever tube and is held in place with a stout pin. Pull the pin and remove the hitch and the the only visable evidence that you can tow something is this square hole under the bumper. You can get a winch mount designed to fit into the receiver. If you have a receiver mounted up front the winch can be used either way. It seems to be a "light duty" arangement if you ask me. Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ("Sidney") 7 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern") #:-}> 1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts) ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JCassidyiv@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:59:56 -0400 Subject: Need Advice Will Cantrell asks.. > All right Land Rover people I need some help. I have located a 59-60 SWB > truck in Maine. (snip) The frame is slightly rusted. (snip) Needs new > brake lines, no doubt. He has many trucks around so he hasn't had it > started in a while. Needs footwell kits. Will, where in Maine-I'm in Bangor Maine. Could the seller be a John Hawkins? Anyway, I live in Bangor Maine and would be willing to travel within an hour from my home to check the vehicle personally. If it is John Hawkins, I was just out to see him the other evening(he's the only person I know with "lots of trucks") I have all the hand tools, torches, and a MIG welder at my house if you need some facilities for repairs and I live a short distance from the local International airport. Cheers! John Feel free to contact me by phone at 207-942-5152(home) 207-941-2373(work) ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: A couple of questions???? From: brian.imdieke@iotp.com (BRIAN IMDIEKE) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 18:05:00 -700 CK> Having leather seats, I would like to keep them in good shape. Sugge CK> for leather care products? This is my first opportunity to own leath CK> I'd like to keep them nice. Lexol. Cleaner first, then preservative, three times a year. This is very good stuff! Been using it for years.....all my cars have leather. CK> Yes, I know, they are supposed to have scratches, dings etc, but unt CK> time as I deserve them, I'd like to do the best job of keeping the ( CK> finish looking good. Any recommendations for coatings like wax or si CK> the new finishes? How about the rubber seals around the windows? Straight silicone on all the rubber (keep it off the paint though) and I like Zymol for the paint..... You've heard from..... Brian Imdieke <brian.imdieke@iotp.com> Phoenix, Arizona USA --- þ RM 1.3 01654 þ Love your neighbor, just don't get caught! * KMail 3.00 IOTP: AZ's LARGEST PCBoard - with INTERNET! ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb) Subject: Re: SPOTS Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:17:23 +0930 (CST) Dixon writes: > heavier gauge wire because the original is inadequate, and > to a unique PO wiring system because LR didn't know how to wire [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > Also seen rewiring jobs to the factory diagram all in one colour. > Just picked up a spool of wire and went to it... OH Well, after my IIa fried its wiring smack in the middle of Kakadu (between Nourlangie camp and Nourlangie Billabong to be precise) I rewired the damn thing, with heavier wire and fuses, (fuse box from nissan truck-screw down connectors- 9 fuses). Trouble was I could only get two colours for "free" and anything else I had to pay for so.... Two colours it was.... I had my own unique wiring system and colour codes. (eg red wire with red terminal, red + blue,Black+red etc.) didnt have enough combinations but it helped... Soldered everything then wrapped the whole shebang in about 4Km of black tape..... All went well no more problems, no fires, no "lucas" outs, great...:-) When I sold her to help pay for the stage 1 I gave the young purchaser (who was more interested in the hot 3.3L motor than the Land-rover it was in) my wiring diagram.... About 6 months later I get this very irrate phone call. He'd taken the thing to an auto electrician to get a pair of driving lights fitted (she had two pair fitted when sold so where he expected to put another pair I dont know..). Anyway he did not give my wiring diagram to the sparky, who rather than work out which relay fed hi/low beam decided to rip the whole harness out and "upgrade" it to factory standard on the basis that my loom was "unsafe. (It may have been who knows). The factory loom of course cost an arm and a leg and needed to be heavily modified to take into account the three way switched thermatic fans, the electronic ignition, 80A alternator, dual battery setup and relay etc etc.... Cost the poor kid about half what he paid for the car, and he wanted me to pay for it.. Needless to say I declined his offer. I lost track of the vehicle when the owner moved to about 200 mile away, but heard from a friend some time later that he'd seen what he thought was my old Landrover sitting out the back of a wrecking yard a burnt out hulk :-( Never able to confirm its fate.... So I s'pose in this instance I was the DPO. :-( -- Daryl ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 01:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> Subject: Re: Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Michael Carradine wrote: > Mike Hoskins is working on supplying a backer plate for > brakes on the Series vehicles. This would allow the use of > American brake shoes and parts, including wheel cylinders. Very nice, but the brit parts are just as cheap and available. If they work great, another option... > Check out the Series Land-Rover Aftermarket Parts List at > http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html provided by Mike Hoskins 14 parts. Nice... I have 34,000 sitting on my hard drive here... Sorry, its been a long week so far... ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:22:49 +0200 From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditr1.arcs.ac.at> Subject: More SPOTs (Stupid Previous Owner Tricks) When I got my SIIA (25 jears old (the rover, not me)) (It's a 109 Disel) sometimes the machine stops, most times on the highway. After one ore two minutes I where able to start again. After driving aproximatly 1000 km and 3 stops I changed the fuel-filters. When removing the air from the fuel system I found the following: In the fuel pump there are two valves. The valves should be: ________ \________/ / \ But the valves where installed like: \________/ \________/ So you can see: the disel fuel pump is optional! Peter Signature: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter Landrover: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter/LR -------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:49:42 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: OVLR Newsletter (Was: Series LR Aftermarket Brakes and Parts List) Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> writes: >> Mike Hoskins is working on supplying a backer plate for brakes on the Series vehicles. This would allow the use of American brake shoes and parts, including wheel cylinders. > Very nice, but the brit parts are just as cheap and available. If they work great, another option... Read ahead a little and get to the important part... -- larger brake shoes, better stopping -- self adjusting -- real, usable auxillary hand brakes at all four wheels >> Check out the Series Land-Rover Aftermarket Parts List at http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html provided by Mike Hoskins > 14 parts. Nice... I have 34,000 sitting on my hard drive here... ..and not doing anybody else any good on YOUR hard disk, are they! (Did I mention it was a modest start?) > Sorry, its been a long week so far... Ohhh, really?? It's been a GREAT week so far here in California! Why, just the other day I received an unsolicited wonderful little newsletter from a nice bunch of Rover enthusiasts --from Canada I think; yea, the Ottowa Valley Land Rovers. What a great collection of informative articles and how-to tutorials, events and adventure chronicles, sections with news and lies-rumours-trivia, extensive classifieds for parts and vehicles, an upcoming events calendar, charts and diagrams of all types of obscure Rovers and original sales brochures and prices, a photo-montage centerfold, application form and even a humor section, all stuffed into 20 pages of small yet readable print. To my delight the newsletter is focused virtually 100% on my personally most favorite Land Rovers --the Series type (no Yuppies here, just Men!). Not a single advertisement or commercial reference anywhere, these guys truly love Land-Rovers and support their club out of their own wallet. Very nicely done and, can you believe this, it's a *monthly* too? I think they're just giving it away with membership dues of only $20/year! And that sincere hand written cover note from the editor himself, let me see, D-I-X-O-N K-E-N-N-E-R. Oh well, here's a brew to the OVLR! Cheers, -Michael Carradine cs@crl.com '65 IIA 88" 'Rumpole of the Bay' ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 09:00:32 +0200 From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditr1.arcs.ac.at> Subject: Re: SIII pulling to left on braking Don't know if this helps: I had the same Problem on my SIIA. Yesterday I tried to get the MOD, so I changed the the front break drums between right end left. Testing the breaks at the MOD there was absolutly NO difference between the left an right :-) BTW: I didn't pass the MOD because of some rust in the frame AND OIL LEAKING OUT from the machine and gearbox !! :-( ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:34:29 +0000 Subject: Re: SIII pulling to left on braking > I have a 1980 SIII ex military LWB radio truck. When I brake it pulls to > the left. I have had all 8 wheel cylinders and brake assembly cleaned and [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > standing for 5 years in a NATO warehouse and has 12000 genuine miles on the > clock. Mechanically very sound, think it's great. Check the following: tyre pressure (lower pressure to the left) wheel wobble (jack up the front of the LR and grab the wheel top & bottom. Can you wobble the wheel with a push/pull motion? - if you can, get the wheel tightened to the stub-axel) loose steering (if you can move thew steering wheel more that about 5 degrees, you will neeed to tighten up the steering box.) hope this helps ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> ------------------------------[ <- Message 52 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950825 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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