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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 86 08:21:43 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: Ready to alternate 

You could try an 18ACR.  This gives an output of 45 amps as opposed to the 16 
ACR's 35.  It is a straight fit on the standard alternator mountings and, in 
the UK at least, costs little more than the 16 ACR.

If necessary I can supply the part numbers etc. for the brackets needed to 
convert from dynamo to alternator.  Did it myself last year.

A 65 amp alternator is available as an option for the 90/110.  Does anybody 
now the make, spec etc for this?
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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 07/30/86
Time: 08:21:43

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From: Richard Jones <rich@apricot.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LR ICON WWW site needed
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:47:30 +0100 (BST)

Mark Talbot writes:
> Here's the ICON, if you get it on a WWW can you mail the dihgest as I'm 
> getting swamped with requests !!!! I UUENCODED it.

Here are the URL's:

	http://www.apricot.co.uk/rel3/directory/rrr/download.html
or
	ftp://ftp.apricot.co.uk/pub/misc/landr.ico
__ 
  _ __              Apricot Computer Limited
 ' )  )      /      3500 Parkside                 Tel:   (+44) 121 717 7171
  /--' o _. /_      Birmingham Business Park      Fax:   (+44) 121 717 0123
 /  <_<_(__/ <_     BIRMINGHAM  B37 7YS
 Richard Jones      United Kingdom                Email: richardj@apricot.co.uk 

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Gaiters
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 07:47:00 DST

Re Gaiters retaining water and other crud
When I had my gaiters off the other day during a leak investigation (?) I 
found that everything inside was clean except for a small lump of oily 
debris lying in the very bottom of the gaiter, The balls were clean smooth 
and unmarked with a coating of oil all over. In fact the passenger side seal 
had been leaking slightly and the gaiter on that side had acted as the oil 
seal with about a quarter cup of oil inside it.

Trevor Easton 62 SWB SW

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Date: Wed,  2 Aug 95 08:59:19 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE Down Under Clubs

I for one am interested in what happens "down under". Australia, and 
Australian Landrovers in particular, hold a fascination for me. I 
certainly didn't interpret Tiffany's mail as implying that anyone should join 
the club; I read it as an anouncement of the club's existence and 
willingness to take overseas members.  I am still considering joining....

I would encourage anybody to post similar information in the future.

Anyone know of a Kiwi L/R club? 
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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 08/02/95
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:14:40 EDT
From: dmorris@med.unc.edu (Tony Morris)
Subject: Hat's Off to LRODG

Thank-you to all. So far all the problems I've had with my disco, windshield 
wipers stuck, rear door loose, signal light not working in hot weather, I've 
heard here first so had some idea what to do. Great Stuff!!

Has anybody ever approached Landrover about having a representative on the net?
They could sure learn a lot and maybe sometimes provide us with someuseful 
information.
Tony Morris

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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 14:31:23 +0100
From: helmuth.guss@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (Helmuth Guss)
Subject: SIIA FC half-shaft

Owning a SIIA FC 6cyl I would like to knew the differencs between
the front half shafts of a SIIA/SIII bonet control LR and the FC ones.

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Date: Wed,  2 Aug 95 08:40:32 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: Springs for a LHD 88 petrol. Very Confusing!! 

The front spring on the driver's side  of the vehicle is set higher than 
that on the passenger side.  I understand that this is to take into account 
the weight of the driver.  Note the use of the terms "driver" and 
"passenger"; this is from the L/R parts book and implies that the springs are 
swapped around for L/H drive.

As far as fitting different springs is concerned there were several sets 
specified for an 88" petrol.

The standard set is:
Front driver's		241283
Front passenger's	242863
Rear 			243124

Heavy duty rear springs:
driver			241285
passenger		265989

Front "when hydraulic winch fitted"
driver			265627
passenger		264563

Those specified for the hydraulic winch fitment are the same as the standard 
diesel fitting.  I don't know what the weight of one of these winches is, but 
the fitting of "diesel" front springs when fitting a winch seems to be 
generally reccomended.

Hope this helps.

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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 08/02/95
Time: 08:40:32

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From: Tom Stevenson <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: 1-ton shackles
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:22:12 +0100 (BST)

Watch out when fitting extended shackles to the front springs; they
affect the steering and increase the propshaft angle at the front by
tilting the diff nose down. Reduced UJ life should be expected (as I
know from bitter experience!)
Cheers!
-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(01475) 530581  Fax:(01475) 530601

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:39:45 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Galvanizing Renewal for LR

Just getting around to some old mail.
Regarding touch-up on galvanized trim. There are several zinc spray 
paints on the market. I've used one by SOS Products that worked well. 
It acts very much in the way of galvanizing.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:53:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold

>Today, I found the exhaust leak in my petrol SIII four banger.  The manifold
has a crack in it.

>I read somewhere that a less restrictive muffler will do more for
performance than a header.  Will a header crack?  Is it louder?

Over the 25 years that I have been driving Lulubelle, I have cracked 3
exhaust manifolds, one time resulting in a burned exhaust valve, and that was
just in the first 10 years of driving.  About 1980 I replaced the cast metal
manifold with a header from A-B.  Since that time I have had no problems at
all.  The headers are not any louder, and supposedly they increase power, but
I put them on so long ago that I don't remember a difference.  The one
shortcoming they are rumored to have is a lack of chimney heat to the carb,
resulting in carb icing under certain conditions, however I haven't had a
problem with this either.  In short, it solved the problem.

Tony

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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 08:11:29 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Gaiters

 Easton Trevor <TEASTON@dqc2.dofasco.ca> writes:

>In fact the passenger side seal 
>had been leaking slightly and the gaiter on that side had acted as the oil 
>seal with about a quarter cup of oil inside it.

 How is that?  The gaiter should not be retaining any liquid if installed
 with the seam facing down.

-Michael Carradine
 cs@crl.com 

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:37:30 PDT
From: edwardsj@ohsu.EDU (James Edwards)
Subject: 5 spd or automatic Discovery ??

It looks like I'll be able to buy a Discovery soon. Does any one have any
thoughts on the relative merits of buying a 5 speed manual versus the
automatic? Reliability, mileage, or other?

Thanks
Jim Edwards
Former 1970 IIa 88, hopefully soon to be Disco owner
jed@teleport.com

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From: DANCSC@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:42:14 -0400
Subject: Spencer says Michael is Pompous?

In a message dated 95-07-29 04:34:52 EDT, you write:

>well *Dad*, if you dont like the chattering (which incidentally, is why this
>mailing list is in existance) you can unsubscribe, until then you can
chatter
>away *offline* with your good friend Al.
>I will also add: 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>spencer
>------------------------------

Spence, I don't know you, and mean no offense, but this sounds a bit pompous
as well.
let's try to live and let live. and by the way... "Land Rover"
have a sunny day!
dan of rosa

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:51:51 -0400
From: Tony_Bonanno@nps.gov (Tony Bonanno)
Subject: Springs for Series IIA

David Brown asks about springs for his 71 IIA and questions why they
are different for the driver and passenger sides.

I don't know if all series Land Rovers had "handed" springs, but I
know that most of the series IIA did.  I believe the series III did
also.  The factory literature that I have read simply states that the
driver's side springs have more camber to "compensate for the
additional weight of the driver", etc.  I will have to admit that this
is one of the more obtuse examples of british engineering that I
have ever encountered.  Since the gas tank on most vehicles in this
country are on the "passenger" side, and with the variables
associated with vehicle loading, the bottom line is that almost every
Land Rover in the US seems to be "leaning" to the right.  I have
always found this to be somewhat annoying with my IIA SWB.  The good
news is that there is absolutely no reason not to use the same spring
on both sides.  Rover's North actually told me recently that they have
stopped selling "handed" pairs.  They recommend the same spring part
number for both sides (# 517588 for the rear which is the same part
number as the "drivers" side rear).

I tried it and it works!  I put two #517588 springs on the back of my
IIA SWB and what a difference.  The vehicle sits LEVEL and of course
the ride and handling and drive train slop are all much improved - the
new bushings helped a lot too!  I have not had a chance (or the money
yet) to replace the front springs/bushings.  However, when I do, I
will use the same (driver's side) spring for both sides.

Tony Bonanno          (IIA SWB - a rolling restoration since new)
Santa Fe, NM

of vehicle
loading

 Especially when you consider that the USA
models are left hand drive and the cr and the gas tank (if you don't
have the optional tank) is on the passenger side, so it is sort of a
moot point.  the most obtuse of the british logic

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:12:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold

Does anyone have information on the type of headers they are running, and 
if it does solve the manifold cracking problem...I just replaced mine 
with a new one, just before the thread started.
thnx in advance
steve

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	Steve Swiger   
	swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu
	(813) 980-1013
	(813) 253-0905 (Work)

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From: wharton@mail.scra.org
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 13:57:52 EST
Subject: Mike's for sale

  
        Mike Crider earlier asked if it was 'politically correct' to advertise 
        LR's and LR parts for sale on the net... As hard as it gets trying to 
        find these vehicles, and as many people who are mesmerized by the 
        intrinsic beauty of LR's when they see one (and ask if there are others 
        for sale), I think this is the perfect forum for passing on for-sale 
        information.  Certainly a non-LRO reading these emails would appreciate 
        the opportunity of owning such a beast... rather than just reading 
        information on how to fix one.
        
        It would also give us all a chance to keep up with current prices so 
        none of us will go off and buy one of those $110K D90's...
        
        Regards to all - I thought I was the only one who was obsessed by these 
        things.
        
        Skip Wharton
        wharton@scra.org
        From the Holy City of Charleston, SC  USA

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:08:37 PDT
From: grea@net.gov.bc.ca (Gordon Rea 660-0216 (NTO Vanc.))
Subject: OD question

When I bought my LR it had an OD installed already. Not knowing 
anything about OD's (or LRs for that matter) I didn't ask 
what type OD it was. Can someone help me identify what type it is?
It's oil filling hole has a brass plug with a dipstick on it to check the
level. I doesnt appear to have any markings on the casing.
Also, I have been filling it with 90wt. Am I in trouble?

G.

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:00:17 EDT
From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben)
Subject: importing loopholes (?)

Well, maybe ...
On a related subject:

Do you know of any Stage LR converted (factory OR otherwise)
to alcohol or LPG ? :)

What was the last year (before 93) that the 109" (110?) were
imported to Canada?  Any diesels ?

Thanks you for your response.
Jan 

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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 11:57:01 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: THANK YOU!!!

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for the "springing" the information! Very "handy" information!

Just one more question, if you know... Can I use the 1-tonne springs?
And if so, what advantages/disadvantages are there with using them?

Thanks,

#=======#                Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|__|__|__\___            can change the world... indeed, it's the only
| _|  |   |_ |}          thing that ever has.
"(_)""""""(_)"                                          -Margaret Mead

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From: DANCSC@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:05:07 -0400
Subject: Series Motor Needed. California

Hello, Dan of Rosa here, and I am currently on the Phone with Matt of Napa (a
non-netted-Rover-owner) he owns a 60 series II and needs a motor. Preferably
a IIa 2.25 version, but most imprtantly it must run, and strong would be
nice.
  would be willing to pay up to 1500 bucks for the right motor, MAYBE trade a
koenig winch as well.... his phone number in Napa is 707.254.8930, or since a
usually ignore the LRO list, you could contact me directly at
mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us
and in the subject area, please note as matt of napa's motor, or something
like that.
  also, I may be reached via phone at 1800.862.7520 monday thru friday 8 to
5.
Thanks in advance,
Dan of Rosa

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 13:10 MST
From: jhoward@argus.lowell.edu (James D. Howard II)
Subject: exhaust manifold again

Thanks to all of you who wrote back about my manifold problem.  I
called RN, who said they have seen a lot of cracked manifolds when the
carb has been replaced, because some of them tend to run lean at full
throttle (ie, on the interstate).  I pulled the appropriate spark
plug, and sure enough, it looked like it had been running lean.  Now,
I think this is a wimpy excuse.  An exhaust manifold outta be able to
take all sorts of abuse.  Anyway, I looked at the price and the amount
of work to switch to a header.  Since I bought an overdrive the day
before I found this problem, I am going to opt for the cheap and easy
solution.  This is, buy another origianl manifold, put the Zenith carb
back on (since I have it), and worry about this later if I have to.

James Howard			jhoward@argus.lowell.edu
1972 SIII 88 "Ephraim"		Flagstaff, Arizona, USA

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: D110 (fwd)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:21:45 EDT

J.Papas dons his asbestos suit and sez:

> I have a line on a NAS Defender 110 which will be available shortly (not 
  mine!). It will be consigned at LRMW. Mileage is VG at under 21K. 
  
  Please do not crowd the digest flaming me for this *solicitation* It is simply 
  provided as a heads up to the digest due to the considerable interest these 
  vehicles generate when they reappear on the market. Anyone requiring 
  information can email me.
> I have a line on a NAS Defender 110 which will be available shortly (not 

And the asking price is.........?????????

Let's have it,
rd/nigel

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:54:06 -0700
From: jhong@haiku.com (John Hong)
Subject: When is the next ARC rally?

Hello All,

I know it is held on the Spring Bank Holiday - would that be May 25-27 or 
June 1-3?  Also, I am told that the rally site will be in the vicinity of 
Uckfield.  Anyone know more?

Details would be appreciated.

Regards

John
John Hong      Haiku Systems    Notes Business Partner
Consultant    jhong@haiku.com      408-249-8340

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From: Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Range Rover handling
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 02:05:35 GMT

I'm not asking for much, I'd just like my Rangie to stop handling like
the Exxon Valdez. Changing the knackered old rubber bushes for PU ones
has improved  it dramatically, from the drunken supertanker to a badly
coordinated rowboat, but I want more !

What can I do next ?  

Can I fit the anti-roll bar from a post '91 model ?

I have a set of jacked-up springs on it (previous owner's doing, not
mine) and 7.50x16 Trac Edges. Is tarmac handling a bit of a lost cause
while I persist in doing Unimog impressions like this ?

Does anyone know what the (highly respected, and equally highly
priced) Overfinch handling conversion does ?

--
Andy Dingley                          dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk                                          

If all it takes is an infinite number of monkeys with typewriters, 
how come AOL haven't written any Shakespeare yet ?

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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 20:42:41 PDT
Subject: Re: 	Trailer lights

A lot of observations about the mysterious *single flash* of the trailer dash 
light when flipping the turn signals. Yes, it IS normal on all late model Land 
Rovers - Disco, Rangey and Defender. Without the trailer wiring complete, it 
flashes ONCE to let you know A- that the idiot light works, and B- that the 
wiring continuity is good to the back corner - where the harness (up to that 
point) is installed ex-works. Once the wiring is completed, then the flasher 
is flashing in tandem with the turn indicator. Yes, it is confusing, but it IS 
normal. Sir Joseph is not there!

cheerz
Jim - now completely mad... and loving it!
`67 2A 88 5.0L Hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L Hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C Diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110
`95 D90

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 02:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Selling 109" Repost and Clarificatio

Rick asks...

> Oh,....one more thing.....is it ok or politically incorrect..... newsgroup
> wise...... for an individual to advertise his Land Rover and/or parts for
> sale through the newsgroup?    What are the thoughts on this?
/

I don't think most people object to an individual posting an item for sale.

Cheers
Mike

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