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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 86 08:09:36 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: D90 Gaiters -- How To 

I would like to add a few comments to the recent mail on this subject.

First though, I should point out that I have never worked on one of these 
new-fangled coil sprung Landies, let alone a US spec version.

1) It is definitely "gaiters"; do "gaitors" bite?

2) The non-genuine gaiter kit that I fitted to my IIA came with instructions. 
These were quite helpful and stated that the leather should be coated in 
vaseline rather than grease.

3) I fitted my gaiters with the hub etc off the vehicle.  This was enough of 
a struggle, whilst fitting on the vehicle is obviously possible it must be 
much more difficult.

4) The bolt pattern on the series swivel housing is asymetrical.  Could this 
be the case with the 90/110?  Consequently there is one right way of fitting 
and several wrong ways which result in poor alignment of the holes. On the 
Series kit The metal reatining band is fitted with the split at the bottom 

gaiter fits at the top.

5) In my view it would be a good idea to replace the zinc plated hose clips 
supplied with stainless items to avoid problems later. 
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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 04/22/95
Time: 09:26:25

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From: a-robw@microsoft.com
Subject: RE: Discovery at 2000 miles
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 17:11:00 PDT

I'm still waiting to get that > 20 MPG in my Disco. I only have 500+ miles 
on it, though and the best I've seen so far is 15.8 (freeway @ 65-70 w/ auto 
trans and A/C).

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||From: LRO-Owner
||To: Land-Rover-Owner
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
||as the space is inviting but there is a relay there--perhaps in the
||amp--which can be moved out of its socket easily.

What exactly are those widgets under the passenger seat. It  looks like one 
is a relay, and the other looks like a computer/amp or somesuch. I was a bit 
bewildered at at how "cheap" the wiring was to the "amplifier-looking" box. 
Espcially how it was exposed to the rear passenger's feet. I'm planning to 
put it in a plastic wire-loom as soon as I get a chance to go to the 
autoparts store. The "black-tape" just doesn't look 'finished'

Speaking of unidentified widgits, behind (to the rear of) the front axle on 
the right side (passenger side in the US) there's a drum shaped object about 
4-6" in diameter and about 1-2" wide with a cable attached. The axis of this 
drum-shaped gizmo is parallel to the axle. What is it?

Also I noticed that the back door didn't seem to be installed/aligned quite 
right. Well, if that's the worse thing I find, I can't complain too much. 
After it's fixed that is :-)

Thanks all,

 -- Bob Watson
(Still geting to know my) 95 Discovery

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Date: 01 Aug 95 08:40:31 EDT
From: "R. Pierce Reid" <PREID@csi.compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: D90 Gaiters

Michael:

I did not retain a pattern... as I did not think I would write an article about
this until I was about 80% done.  Had I been thinking further ahead, I would
have traced the metal brackets and the leather.  oops.  A friend of mine has
aksed me to do his Disco, though, and I will trace the patterns when I do that.
The specs should be identical.  Also, it is possible that the OZ spec D90 is
different from the NA Spec and that there *is* a gaiter kit for it.  From what I
understand, the D90 for the U.S. has a different front axle.

As for the vaseline... that is another way to prime the leather, and it is a
good one.  I decided to let my gaiters sit for about 24 hours in a hot garage
with a lot of grease on them.  They were saturated.  Either method should work
fine.  If you don;t want to leave it 24 hours... 90-weight should work well,
followed by a liberal application of grease.

I have heard theories about gaiters trapping moisture... but in my 30 years
experience around Land Rovers, I have never seen a rusted out ball that I can
attribute to a gaiter.  Most of them that have gaiters installed and have
*still* rusted have rusted because of water entering through other areas and
eating the ball out from the inside (pooled under the oil inside the swivel
ball.)  That is not to say that, if the gaiter is not greased and sealed
occasionally, or if it is allowed to get a hole (or installed wrong) it will
*not* contribute to a rusty swivel ball... just that I have not seen it.
Personally, I prefer gaiters.

Cheers, 

R. P. Reid

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Tue, 1 Aug 1995 07:55:24 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: Gaiters/Gaitors

Michael C. wrote:
Snip
>  What I'd like to do is measure the pattern and make it available on the
>  Web for those do-it-your-selfers.  It's not terribly complicated, really.
>  (Maybe you'd trace your pattern on a newspaper and send it to me?)

Sure

>  BTW- Is it "gaiters" or "gaitors"??
Gaiters. I think putting gaitors on your swivel balls might be dangerous. 
Might loose a hand or arm you know.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date:  Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:05:00 -0400 
From: "christian (c.j.) szpilfogel" <chrisz@bnr.ca>
Subject:  re: Discovery flashers (fast ones & trailers) 

A couple of times people have mentioned that their turn signals seem
to flash very quickly when it is very hot. I had the same problem (but
it is summer so I can't say if the heat is the dominating factor).
The manual says that it is due to a bulb not working.

The last time I saw this happen, I pulled over to check and sure enough,
my left rear turn signal was not working. I then played with the socket
a little and got it to work. If I pull the socket a little, I can get
it to cut out again. I'll take a closer look this weekend and see if
I can figure out which contact is loose.

With respect to the trailer signal light going on once on a turn without
a trailer, it is "documented" to do that as per the manual. It's either
a design bug (dressed up feature) or more likely it lets you know if
you have a problem with your trailer wiring. i.e. if you are pulling
a trailer and it only flashes once then you are not wired correctly.

Cheers,

  -Christian
   95 Discovery

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:27:21 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: newbie stupid questions

> 1. if 500 D110 came over in '93, can anyone import a '93 from UK?

Nope.  These were specially done up for NADA (North Am. Dollar A...?)

> 4. if SII were imported upto '68, why do I see '70 gas models here in US.
109"s came in through '67; 88"s until '73-74.

> 1. Is the pickup bulkhead on a 109" structurally important? Can it be
>  removed to get a SW?

No and yes.  *BUT* as pickups are scarcer than sw's, I would recommend trading 
a pu for a sw if that's what you want.  But you can carry more than 2-3 in a 
pickup, with side-facing seats in the back. 

> 3. At the SII top speed of 60mph (?) in OD, what is the rpm?

At 3000rpm's in 4th-OD, I'm doing ~70mph.  I've got the toro OD, though.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:27:55 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Limericks

Another one...

I once had a tire on my bonnet,
The subject of this little sonnet,
but with a bounce and a hop,
it flew over the top,
so now the roof's got a tire upon it.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:27:50 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Limericks and Clutch Push Rods

 On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Russell G. Dushin wrote:
 
  If you did, can you measure it up for us?  There's five or six of us
  out here wondering if our rods are long enough.
 
 Charlie Wright replied
 
 Uh-oh, I think I hear limmericks in the distance...

 And Trevor inspired...

In measuring rods for their lengths,
A Land Rover Owner's main strengths,
is plenty of oil, 
pants that won't soil,
and not being scared of a jinx.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 06:27:45 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: 109" wanted

My brother (the starving student) has caught the bug.  He now wants a 109", 
preferably a 4-door.  The problem is, he doesn't have a lot of money.  He 
does, however, have tools and a good knowledge of car repair.  So, if anyone 
knows of a 109" for sale cheap, (preferably in No. CA,) please let me know.  
Thanks!

P.S. Mark Talbot - if you don't go for the one you mentioned, my brother might 
be interested.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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From: usssbkpy@ibmmail.com
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 09:36:50 EDT

From: Paul M Brodie <usssbkpy@ibmmail.com>                                      
Subject: Trailer Light                                                          
Date: Tuesday, 31 July 1995                                                     
                                                                                
Leland J Roys writes:                                                           
                                                                                
>Starting last week, when I use the turn signal (left or right), the panel      
>light with the trailer picture will flash along with the turn signal           
>light. It will flash only 1 time, and then only the turn signal flashes.       
                                                                                
I have the same vehicle (red '94 D90) and have the exact same *syndrome*. All   
I can tell you is that that's how it's always worked !! I don't have a trailer  
on mine, either. I've learned not to worry about it, as long as the turn signal 
works. Of course, here in Boston, we don't use those too often ....             
                                                                                
Paul M. Brodie                 #======#                                         
'94 Red D90                    |+--+|  \                                        
(still unnamed)                |+--+|---\___                                    
USSSBKPY@IBMMAIL.COM           | _  |D90|_  |}                                  
                        * * * ==(_)"""""(_)""                                   

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Date: 01 Aug 95 10:06:25 EDT
From: "BENJAMIN G. NEWMAN" <71773.3457@compuserve.com>
Subject: Hubs

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Date: 01 Aug 95 08:13:40 EDT
From: "BENJAMIN G. NEWMAN" <71773.3457@compuserve.com>
Subject: Fairely Hubs
Message-ID: <950801121339_71773.3457_EHL130-1@CompuServe.COM>

Many of you know I recently had a Turner Engine 2.5 put into my 1966 109 NADA
wagon by Gary Landis.Bad experience;more about that at a later time.

Gary installed Fairely freewheeling hubs and here is the problem.Both hubs are
locked in the 4x4 position and I can't unlock the left hub to put it in the 4X2
position. The right one is fine. No matter what I do,eg.rock the truck,back up
abit,turn the wheel or change gears it won't move. I loosened the screw on the
hub and that did nothing.
SO...please help.........does anyone have a suggestion. I only have 250 miles on
the new engine an I am anxious to see how it performs with unlocked hubs.
After having my truck for over 7 months for the engine conversion which was
supposed to take 2-3 weeks my truck was hauled down to Fl with only 15 miles on
the clock. You know he really checked it out......right??? What a disappointment
and approx. 2K over estimate.Before ANYBODY considers using Gary Landis call me
FIRST.
Benjamin G. Newman
Orlando Fl. 

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 09:31:29 -0500
From: elsmain!wmaloney@els004.attmail.com (William Maloney)
Subject: Something interesting

Corey,

Here's something I thought you might find interesting.  Not funny, but 
interesting.

Bill

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-                  IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS GONE BY
                      JPL as I once knew it

                          Sam Brunstein

     At Jpl today, problem solving is complex.  If something
     goes wrong with a piece of spacecraft hardware, the
     person noticing the problem writes a Problem/Failure
     Report (PFR).  The seriousness of the problem is
     evaluated by several internal agencies.  If the problem
     is significant the PFR is referred to a Material Review
     Board (MRB) for evaluation and a recommended solution.
     If the Project approves the MRB recommendation, the
     Cognizant Engineer fixes the problem.

The phone woke me up.  I looked at the clock -- 2 a.m.  Not good.

"Sam?" said the voice.

"Uh" said I.

"It's Tom at the Spacecraft Assembly Facility."

"What's up, Tom?"

"One of my guys bumped your antenna with his head, and he bent
one of those little wires that stick out, bent it over about
half-way.  What should I do?"

Now I was awake.  "I don't know.  I'll come and look."

This spacecraft had two antennas.  One was a low-gain that
sprayed radio-waves in nearly all directions but the waves
weren't very strong.  The other antenna was the high-gain.  It
focused the radio-waves into a powerful beam.  Both antennas were
fastened to the body of the craft so they pointed where the
spacecraft was pointed.  Throughout the last half of the flight
the high-gain antenna would point to the earth, and when the ship
got to Mars it would provide the strong signal that allowed fast
data transfer to earth.  But during the first half of the flight
the spaceship was at the wrong angle and only the wide-angle low-
gain antenna could talk with the earth.  Even in the last half of
the mission, if the craft lost its pointing stabilization the
high-gain antenna would point the wrong way.  The low-gain
antenna would be needed to receive commands to help get the ship
out of trouble.

My antenna was the low-gain antenna.  It was important that it
work right.

This antenna was really mine, all the way down my gut.  I dreamt
it up, designed it, built it, tested it, and delivered it to the
spacecraft assembly crew.  For two years I lived with this baby
every day, and I mean every day.  Ten hours a day, seven days a
week.  For the last year of the development I had pieces of that
antenna in my hand every day.  I knew what it looked like, what
it felt like, and what it smelled like.  I knew this thing with
its clothes off.  It was MINE.  I was its Cognizant Engineer, Bob
Thomas was its midwife, and Bill Layman was its mother.
job.  I worked with the mission designers to
develop the requirements for it.  Then I designed it.  There were
countless hours of cut-and-try with Bob Thomas on the Mesa
Antenna Range.  We didn't use computers for this kind of design.
My timeshare segment of the mainframe computer was 64 kilobits.
Good for some stuff, but not for solving megapoint vector
equations.  Nowadays we would design it on a PC.

The design led to a shining, hollow tube of aluminum, about four
inches across and six feet long.  The metal skin had to be very
thin and lightweight, yet the shaft had to be almost perfectly
round.  Building that sucker was a real challenge, but we had a
talented mechanical engineer.  Bill Layman solved all the
problems.  By the time that antenna was ready to be delivered,
there were three or four of us that had a very personal interest
in its welfare.

After I went through the clean-room rain dance, I ignored the
Test Team and walked straight to the spacecraft and my antenna.

At the top of the antenna there were sixteen thin aluminum wires
about three inches long sticking straight out from the tube.
These were needed to make the radio-waves go in exactly the right
directions.  One of them was bent down about 45 degrees.  No
catastrophe, but worrisome.  If it broke off in space, would the
radio waves go way off course?  Not likely, but it would have
some effect.  If it broke off in space would it interfere with
some other part of the ship?  Maybe.  Nobody knew for certain.

We had a spare antenna.  But putting a spare onto a spaceship
that was halfway through testing is a big deal.  A lot of stuff
has to be unscrewed to get at things, and there is plenty of
opportunity to damage more equipment.  It's a risk.

I got a magnifying glass and looked closely at the base of the
bent wire.  I didn't see any cracks.  I reached out and bent it
back where it belonged then looked again.  Still no cracks.

"Fly it," I said, and went home to bed.  Slept like a log.

They flew it.

It worked.

     Mariner IV passed by Mars in July of 1965.  It sent
     back 21 television pictures of the planet, using the
     high-gain antenna.  During flight, the spacecraft did
     have problems with its attitude stabilization.  The
     low-gain antenna was used to correct the problems.

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hal Leininger <halgram@slip.net>
Subject: DAP

   I haven't had to buy parts for my '66 109 for about three years and the 
time has come. The last stuff came from DAP while still run by Al and I 
had no complaint whatsoever. The parts I bought from him were 
considerably cheaper than any other supplier. I assume that Al sold out and 
is no longer involved and that DAP prices have risen to be compareable
with ABP.Last I heard ABP was no longer in buisness in  Lewiston.
Hoping someone will bring me up to date.
   I just got a full color catalog from LR Super market in the mail 
yesterday and though I haven't done more than flip the pages I am 
highly impressed. Anyone have a list of FAX numbers for UK suppliers? 
   Anyone gotten into their Fairey O.D.? Mine was sucking oil in and now 
it's reversed flow. I tried venting the transfer case but I was probably 
to late and seal damage had already occurred. Wondering what potential 
damage to look for and the procedure for teardown.

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Date: 01 Aug 95 11:11:47 EDT
From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: Trailer Lights

Leland...

Probably your D90 was doing that all along and you didn't notice..  At least, it
should have been.  My D90 has been doing that since day One but it took me a
week to notice. Iit is normal.  At first, though, I must admit to having thought
it was Sir Lucas visiting my new toy...

When I have my trailer hooked up, it flashes all the time, BTW.  FYI, I do not
have the LR trailer harness installed, BTW.  I installed a harness myself.

Cheers, 

R. Pierce Reid

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:24:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Head rebuild??

I just got a call from the machine shop that is doing the work on the 
pig's engine.  30 over for the cylinders and no damage to the head or 
valves.  I had planned on redoing the head with the stellite valves, new 
cam bearings etc.  The machine shop said that everthing "on top looks 
fine" should I go ahead and do the top end while the thing is in pieces 
or just leave well enough alone??   How much of a power increase can you 
expect from changing to the stellite valves??
thanks for any words of wisdom..

the pig shall fly again!
Russ

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Date: 1 Aug 1995 08:54:24 U
From: "Guzelis.Pete" <guzelis.pete@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
Subject: RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

 Anyone out there know of a source (USA or elsewhere) that makes an air-bag
compatible front receiver for a 94 Disco. I sure don't want to pay the L/R
dealer package price of $2K (US) for a Warn winch, bull guard, mount system. I
called Warn Winch directly and they told me that they do not make receivers for
the Disco. Any input will be appreciated. I intend to mount the winch via the
Warn Multi-Mount cradle so I can use the winch on either end of the vehicle or,
when "on-road" remove competely.  
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.com on Tue, Aug 1, 1995 2:00 AM
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
File(s): The Land Rover Owner Daily Dige

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 86 15:39:25 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: Hubs 

The best bet would seem to be to dismantle the offending hub and see if you 
can work out what has gone wrong.

In order to do this remove the screw.  This will reveal a plastic loop 
compressed into the countersink for the screw.  Usin a small screwdriver or 
similar hook the loop out.  You should then see that the loop has a "tail" to 
it which disapears into the hub.  This is the strip which holds the outer 
part of the hub on.  Remove this strip by pulling at the loop.  It is about 
5"long.  It will help if you push the hub gently towards the wheel against 
the pressure of the springs.

Once the strip has been removed, the hub should simply pull off.  Reassembly, 
as they say in the manuals, is the reverse of assembly...

Describing the internal parts of the hub is beyond my powers of English.   
However, you will note that there is a sort of wire cage with three prongs.  
Each of these prongs must locate in one of the three recesses in the part of 
the hub still on the vehicle.  That this has been wrongly assembled is a 
possible cause of your problem.

I suggest that you also look for any obvious damage.

Hope this helps.  
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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 07/29/86
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 09:38:33 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: def110 sale.

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: def110 sale.
Russel writes:
> As seen in yesterday's NY Times:

> Defender 110, 38K miles, $36,500,
> or was it the other way around....

> something like that, anyway.  Seen in the out of town addition.
> At least it wasn't outrageous.

Sure it wasn't Defender $110,000? ;-)

Dave (the prankster) B.

#=======#                Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|__|__|__\___            can change the world... indeed, it's the only
| _|  |   |_ |}          thing that ever has.
"(_)""""""(_)"                                          -Margaret Mead

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Date: 1 Aug 1995 11:19:29 -0500
From: "Sean McInerney" <smcinerney@mail.nrgn.com>
Subject: LR Minibus?

LR Minibus?
  Unfortunately, I did not speak to the individual, whom I am about to speak
of, long enough to relate all the technical details, but the bare fact should
be of interest.....Whilst driving my topless '63 88" one Saturday morning (a
couple weeks ago), a 110 V8 County (not a conversion) appeared before me (not
a hallucination).  Luckily, we managed to stop next to each other at the next
light to chat.  The owner told me that it was a 1986 110 and had been legally
imported as a minibus.  My wheels have been turning ever since!  Oh, by the
way, this was in good ole' New Haven, CT.....There are, at least, four other
SIIA 88" in the area....pretty surprising to me...maybe unremarkable to
others.  110 V8 County...Hmmm....

Sean C. McInerney
1963 SIIa 88"- no top....no rain either 8*)
"Friends call it 'The Beast'"

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 09:57:56 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Land Rover spirit - Spaceship story.

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Land Rover spirit - Spaceship story.
It's a shame they don't (can't) make space ships like Rovers, it may
have gone like this;

"Ring.. Ring" Hello... "Sam, we have a problem with the low gain
antennae....."

Sam: "Hell, yank one off one of the cars in the parking lot and slap it
on! What on earth would you wake me up at.....you @$-!!"

On the other hand... if "uncle Joe" had anything to do with it, we may
STILL have men on the moon... as well as a nice memorial for them here
on Earth.   ;-)

Cheers!

#=======#                Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|__|__|__\___            can change the world... indeed, it's the only
| _|  |   |_ |}          thing that ever has.
"(_)""""""(_)"                                          -Margaret Mead

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:02:27 -0400
From: rparker@tiac.net (Randy Parker)
Subject: RE: Discovery at 2000 miles

At 05:11 PM 7/31/95 PDT, a-robw@microsoft.com wrote:

>I'm still waiting to get that > 20 MPG in my Disco. I only have 500+ miles 
>on it, though and the best I've seen so far is 15.8 (freeway @ 65-70 w/ auto 
>trans and A/C).

I believe the 20 MPG he reported was in manual (especially if you keep it
between 2500-3000 rpm, or so I've heard).  In the automatic you'll be hard
pressed to break 16 and if you have a short commute, you'll be down around 12.

>Also I noticed that the back door didn't seem to be installed/aligned quite 
>right. 

Mine had this as well...I tightened up the door latch some and it helped,
but I had the dealer fix it for good at first service.

-- RP
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   "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence; it is force.  Like fire,
it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master." -- George Washington
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 12:18:00 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Springs for a LHD 88 petrol. Very Confusing!!

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
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SUBJECT: Springs for a LHD 88 petrol. Very Confusing!!
I need springs for a '71 series IIa 88. It's sagging to the right side.
(Passenger side in the US.) I am also going to be adding a winch to the
front, (Warn 8274) approx. 150 pounds? (70Kg) Can I, should I, use
either 1-tonne springs from a 109? Or Diesel springs from a 88? Or
Diesel springs from a 109? Or diesel springs from a 1-tonne 109? Or....

Also, the LR springs are different for left/right, what is the reason
for this? (Maybe why my LR leans??) Should or can I use the same spring
for left and right, and if so, which one should I use, the LR left? Or
the LR right?

If I just switched my existing springs from right to left/left to right,
will it then lean to the left, of sit horizontally on a crowned road?

I will be using the 1-tonne spring shackles for a slight lift.

Anyone know how much arch the springs should have? And how to measure it?
What are the best springs to use???

Please help!!!

Thanks, Cheers, Chow, g'day mate......

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 86 15:11:04 PDT
From: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
Subject: Distributors - 4cyl

This mail is prompted by the availability of Lucas Distributors from 
Paddock's (Matlock, UK +44 (0)1629 584499) at a good price (41.07).  They 
are of a later pattern than that currently fitted to my '68 IIA, having a 
push on type vacuum advance tube.

Does anybody know if I am likely to have problems with fitting such a later 
distributor?  It should of course fit physically; my concerns centre around 
advance curves etc.  My impression from looking through the parts catalogues 
for the IIA and III are that changes in the distributor fitted have resulted 
from advancements (if that is the word) in Lucas design.

Any thoughts or experiences?

Amusing(ish) anecdote.  My wife (I am currently stuck at home with 
shingles) took the IIA to the local Land Rover dealer today for the track to 
be checked.  Their computerised booking-in system needed to know what model, 
but wouldn't accept IIA.  It had to be either a II or III!  
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Tony Chapman             E-mail: Tony@hawtec.demon.co.uk
HAWTEC                   Tel:    01905 723200
Haswell House            Fax:    01905 613338 
St. Nicholas Street      Mobile: 0973 316835
Worcester
WR1 1UW

Date: 07/29/86
Time: 15:11:04

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:49:09 -0600
From: hiner@roadrunner.com (Greg Hiner)
Subject: Land Rover Parts in the USA

I don't know how valid this rumour is and pardon if it has already been
mentioned as I haven't been able to pay much attention to this list lately
but supposedly Land Rover North America is moving to become the sole
provider of genuine parts in at least the USA. So that would put Rovers
North and British Pacific out of the game at least as authorized dealers of
parts. The parts business for America would be shifted to ten or so Land
Rover Centers across the country. Up go the prices.

I haven't talked to BP or RN about this myself but a friend of mind has.
Let me know if anybody else gets any information on this or let me know if
this is just old news.

Best-
Greg

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 20:49:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Head rebuild??

Russell asks...

> fine" should I go ahead and do the top end while the thing is in pieces 
> or just leave well enough alone??   How much of a power increase can you 
> expect from changing to the stellite valves??
/

Probably no power increase.. However, the stellite valves should hold up
better with unleaded petrol.

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:11 MST
From: jhoward@argus.lowell.edu (James D. Howard II)
Subject: Exhaust manifold

Today, I found the exhaust leak in my petrol SIII four banger.  The
manifold has a crack in it.  It is in the rearmost branch, nearest the
firewall.  The PO had told me he replaced it for the same reason in
1977.  I am going to ask him where it cracked before, but further
investigation seems to indicate that it is prone to cracking back
there.  The front branch gets plenty of cooling from the fan, but the
rear branch has a heat shield around it.  I can feel the difference in
the radiated heat with my hand after shutting the engine off.  Anyway,
this seems like a good time to upgrade to a header.  I read somewhere
that a less restrictive muffler will do more for performance than a
header.  Will a header crack?  Is it louder?

James Howard
1972 SIII 88 "Ephraim"		Flagstaff, Arizona, USA

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: LR Minibus?
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:02:38 +0930 (CST)

Sean asks:
> LR Minibus?

I dont know the significance of this question, but my stage 1 wagon (5dr) and
most of the 110 5drs I've seen here in OZ are described on their compliance
plates as "Landrover Omnibus". Most of these are the 10 seaters, but very few
actually have the sideways facing "load-bay" seats.   My hunch is that this
was a ploy to avoid some of the more severe pollution control requirements.
(my 12/82 LR must meet the same standards as a 6/76 passenger car.....)

Does this have import implications to the US???

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:25:02 +0930
From: tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au (Tiffany Downing)
Subject: RE: Down Under Clubs

Mathew Holding said:

>Tiffany seems to have stirred up a can of worms by suggesting that you all need
>to join an Australian club.

I never said that you NEEDED to join a club I was just letting people know that:
a.      we exist
b.      we are a Land Rover Only Club (for those that care); and
c.      we welcome anyone that is interested in Land Rovers and wants to 
keep         track of what is happening in Australia.

Sorry if I upset anybody (it certainly seems that way with all the abuse 
mail I've been getting!!!) :-( 

As for the person that suggested to me that we have a club membership fee 
rather than individuals (for overseas) we think that's great and would be 
interested in swapping magazines with any other clubs out there (not in 
Australia as we already swap magazines with them).  Just send me your 
snail-mail addresses and we'll take it from there.

Again, apologies to anyone that thinks I was trying the "Hard Sell" but we 
were just excited to be able to discuss Land Rovers on a global sense rather 
than just locally!

TTFN  :-)

Tiffany Downing

********************************************
Co-ordinator, International Student Programs
TAFE South Australia, AUSTRALIA
Phone:   (61 8) 226 3202
Fax:     (61 8) 226 3655
E-Mail:  tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au
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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 20:04:04 PDT
Subject: Re: D110

I have a line on a NAS Defender 110 which will be available shortly (not 
mine!). It will be consigned at LRMW. Mileage is VG at under 21K. 

Please do not crowd the digest flaming me for this *solicitation* It is simply 
provided as a heads up to the digest due to the considerable interest these 
vehicles generate when they reappear on the market. Anyone requiring 
information can email me.

cheerz
Jim - now completely mad... and loving it!
`67 2A 88 5.0L Hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L Hybrid
`68 2B 110 F/C Diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 D110
`95 D90

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:08:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: newbie stupid questions

On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Roger Sinasohn wrote:

> > 4. if SII were imported upto '68, why do I see '70 gas models here in US.
> 109"s came in through '67; 88"s until '73-74.
	
	109's into Canada later than this...

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:28:47 -0400
Subject: Selling 109" Repost and Clarification.

All:
In regards to my recent post about selling Hugo.....the 109".. :   In the
original posting I listed the North Carolina DMV Title number as the VIN.
  This was pointed out as incorrect by several of you.....thanks.    I
immediately reposted a correction with the correct VIN Number,  which is
26408075C.   ( Hugo is a ' 66 five door 109,  very straight, road ready, and
......sorry,  but,  it's even clean.)    If any of you have inquired and have
not heard from me,  please email me again.    I inadvertantly dumped a
session of incoming email,  the contents of which were never known.    Sorry
for the confusion.

Oh,....one more thing.....is it ok or politically incorrect..... newsgroup
wise...... for an individual to advertise his Land Rover and/or parts for
sale through the newsgroup?    What are the thoughts on this?

Cordially:
Rick Crider
<rickcrider@aol.com>
Monroe  NC
(704)289-6303
' 66  SIIA   109"    'Hugo'
' 73  SIII     88"     'Jesse'
' 88  Range  Rover   .....no name....my daily pack-mule.

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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 23:05:47 -0700
From: rover@europa.com (Brad Krohn/Deborah Shannon)
Subject: Ready to alternate

I know this has been on the digest before, but I wasn't as fed up then with
my puny old C-40 generator.

Aside from switching to the 16ACR alternator, what's the best option for a
'69 2.25 petrol? 

I seem to remember there being an AC/DELCO equivalent that was supposed to
fit in nicely. 

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