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1 Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar15 RE: Gearboxes
2 Andrew Grafton [A.J.Graf22re: gearboxes
3 Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar16 RE: Gearboxes
4 Spenny@aol.com 15(blue) Swivel Balls
5 Brian Neill Tiedemann [s38101 diffs
6 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus19Re: Clutch replacement for IIA (fwd)
7 David Rosenbaum [rosenba28undercoating; how to spray
8 gwilcox@icis.on.ca (Gowy17Diff Locks
9 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em30Re:dreaming and dixon
10 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE18 truncated messages
11 Randy Rose [rsrose@cco.c19Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
12 Alan Richer [Alan_Richer20Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?
13 DANCSC@aol.com 23Re: Russ is mailing cash?
14 "Peter C. Parsons" [ppar37Disco exhaust bolts coming loose
15 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak29Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?
16 tonyb@ejv.com (Tony Brom10Camel Trophy
17 growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.S12Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?
18 BobandSueB@aol.com 18Re: #1(3) The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
19 a-robw@microsoft.com 22FW: Seeking Disco info
20 hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.co21Re: Disco exhaust bolts coming loose
21 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr40Re: Seeking Disco info
22 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu43Beaches making us soft!!!
23 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu30Re: 101 diffs and lockers
24 tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au 26Sunshiny SA
25 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A11Re: Proper Land-Rover beer....
26 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu26Re: Sunshiny SA (joke)
27 chrisste@clark.net (Chri22Toasted Valves
28 tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au 13RE: Sunshiny SA (Joke)
29 Sanna@aol.com 30Re: Range Rover front brush bars
30 Sanna@aol.com 9Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?
31 cs@crl.com (Michael Carr26Re: Sunshiny SA (joke)
32 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu35Re:Lloyds landy site
33 rover@pinn.net (Alexande21Aerodynamically speaking....


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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:17:07 +0000
Subject:       RE: Gearboxes

On 13 Jul 95, Tiffany Downing wrote:

The Army folk _never_ mistreat equipment. <end sarcasm>
Everything is treated the same: beat sh*t out of it 'cos it ain't yours to 
fix!

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: re: gearboxes
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 9:21:12 BST

> itty-bitty parts are in the oil and they function properly, (like no 
> hopping out of 2nd on the overrun) I'd say short of a full teardown on 

Now, say the gearbox did jump out of second occasionally on the
overrun - what would be the problem?  Any other 'big trouble' 
indicators to watch out for?  How about popping out of first?

The good news is that there weren't any bits in the oil.

Just so I know what to look for...

All the best,

Andy
Who's going to be madly driving around trying to get the gearboxes
to pop out of gear now!

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:55:06 +0000
Subject:       RE: Gearboxes

On 13 Jul 95, Mr Ian Stuart wrote:

>      ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
> Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 

My signature just got truncated by 2 lines!

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:10:19 -0400
Subject: (blue) Swivel Balls

Trevor Writes.....
          I now have attractive french blue balls but you can't see 
         them as they are wrapped in leather gaiters.

Trevor,
it was good to see you in owls head, *but* i am much releived that the
subject of your blue balls did not come up, let alone get shown around. <bg>

Spenny

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From: Brian Neill Tiedemann <s914440@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
Subject: 101 diffs
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 21:30:36 +1000 (EST)

I know a few guys here in Victoria, Oz with 101s. Now since I have an 
active interest in Salisbury diffs, I have peered hard at the 101 centres 
and axles when friends have had them apart. One has 2 lock right lockers 
fitted recently, and the others are having air lockers made by another 
friend. The centre itself is the same as any other salisbury, with the 
exception of the spline in the side gears. This is larger to accomodate 
the thicker 101 axles- can't remember the exact # of splines or size, but 
I will ask and post. I do know that the hole in a standard salisbury 
cross (pinion gears run on the arms of it) is too large to cut standard 
LR 24 spline splines in, but just fine for '101' spline. (can anyone 
guess how my diff lock will work- had to get a cross with 24 spline size 
hole-clue). 
One guy here has a slightly modified 101:
X-pensive 350 Chev, running LPG only- 300ish litres tank capacity I think.
Custom made 20" rims with custom Disc brakes+BIG calipers.
Michellan Tyres: Life about 5000Km and 70% gone! ~$400 Aus each
Air diff locks as mentioned above being fitted.
(His father owns the Lock Rite'd one)
Centre mount PTO winch- cable paths front and rear.
Tatty Soft top

Awesome thingy this! Bog it if and only if U have a Mog or some kind of 
dozer handy to extract it- If it gets stuck then we mortals have not a 
prayer of extracting, but so far it seems rare to do so. Not much stops it.
BTW - the salisbury in a 101 has the same axle tube OD, and a thicker 
wall- (smaller ID) I can get the exact dims if necessary.
The Salisbury is, I believe, a 4 Pinion version of the Dana 60.
All these Questions about 101vs109 running gear....what you building-huh??

seeya
Brian
77RR (creak)

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: Clutch replacement for IIA (fwd)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 9:51:25 EDT

> This Clutch is a 9 1/2" . and is fully assembled. One piece for the disk, one
> complete pressure plate springs and all ready to introduce to the flywheel,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> surface and new springs, also don't want to fool around with the adjustments
> on it.

Ne meither.  But one more question:

Is this aftermarket clutch a spring activated/3 finger type or a
"disc" type clutch (like the genuine 9.5" one)?

rgds,
rd/nige

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: undercoating; how to spray

Thanks Tom for the info on bar & chain oil. How do you spray such oil? 
Would a garden sprayer (hand pump) work? In addition to the D90 chassis I 
could probably spray all of my '66 Scout, also have two IHC Cub tractors 
('48 and '50) and implements that might benefit. If a garden sprayer 
might work, do you know if there are nozzels available that would work 
with oil?

Another que:thD90 owners manual, under "maintenance" the 
subject of "Steam Cleaning" reads:"To prevent consequential rusting, any 
steam cleaning within the engine bay must be followed by careful 
re-waxing of the metallic components affected. Particular attention 
should be given to the steering column, engine water pipes, hose clights 
and the ignition coil clight."
I've never steam-cleaned undercarriage or under-hood. (Just hosed out the 
engine compartment with the usual keeping hose away from the air intake.) 
Everything under the hood is slowly turning the color of dust....and I 
imagine that this coating might protect things from effects of water.
My question is: should the engine compartment BE "steam cleaned" 
occasionally (if so, what would be used to "re-wax" the parts listed in 
owners manual, since engine water pipes get *hot*.
(I once used aerosol "engine cleaner" (Gunk) at a drive-in DIY car wash 
on another old Scout, and all of the engine paint peeled off so I'm not 
too keen on that)

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:01:58 +0000
From: gwilcox@icis.on.ca (Gowyn Wilcox)
Subject: Diff Locks

I have a question.  Reading the magazines I keep hearing reference to diff
locks.  What are they?  My understanding is that the new LR's, full time
4wd have a selectable centre diff lock.  What about us poorer folk with
series models?  Are diff locks the same as posi traction?

Oh, and I'm still waiting for my old girl to be finished.  '66 IIa.

Moocho Grassee-ass

Built for comfort and speed......NOT!!!!

                                                         BUILT TO LAST...

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re:dreaming and dixon

On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Daryl Webb wrote:

> Hmmm Dixon, have we been sworking late on our landy again???  This
> USA V's Canada rivalry is almost as serious as (all other OZ states) V's
> Victoria (g)

	Gotta keep away from the keyboard after a collation party <ahem>
	for the OVLR newsletter... :-)  Besides, we beat the USA is 1812
	-1815 fracas  :-)

> Guinness, Bah, *Real* land-rover owners drink Coopers Ale or Extra Stout....

	Send a case... :-)  Container might be more accurate though...

> Ooops time to run and hide.  It wasnt me i never logged on today :-)

	Silly Aussies...  Come to a real climate.  The beaches are making
	you go soft...

> P.S. When you get your 101 will you get one for me too? (please)
> Actually there is/was a 101FC camper conversion for sale here (OZ) for 
> ~$38K

	You ahve a 15 yr rule too, or what is the limits on bringing in
	interesting stuff from the UK?

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:28:32 GMT -0600
Subject:       truncated messages

Interesting phenomena. I got David Rosenbaum's message twice. One was 
complete, the other had the last line truncated at "...I'm not too 
keen...."
Tom

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Randy Rose <rsrose@cco.caltech.edu>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: 13 Jul 1995 15:14:29 GMT

  From: Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk>
  Subject: Lightweight front propshaft

  saw that they had a clearance deal on brand new military propshafts, so
  I picked one up. Now we've found the thing doesn't fit - it's an inch
  or so too short. Does anyone know if Series IIA & III lightweights had
  different propshaft lengths ?

Sounds like you have a rear driveshaft, which is shorter that the front!

Randy Rose

'57 107

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From: Alan Richer <Alan_Richer.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 13 Jul 95 10:54:13 EDT
Subject: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?

Well, I hate to do this, but the MDs tell me I have to...

Due to lung problems, i have been advised to not own a car without air
conditioning. With my present Mazda, this isn't a problem. However,
old Churchill cannot become my daily driver unless I can figure out how
to cram an air conditioner under the hood or elsewhere.

Anybody got any good ideas on this one? Believe me, I wouldn't want
to do this unless it was a choice between LR ownership and no LR
ownership.

     Signed, Breathless....

     Al Richer

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From: DANCSC@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:56:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Russ is mailing cash?

In a message dated 95-07-13 06:33:10 EDT, you write:

>If you're interested, please email me.  I'll send you a short (10 question) 
>survey to edit and return.  In appreciation, we'll send you $10 cash within
2
>working days.
>Thanks a lot,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Thanks a lot,
>Russ Hval
Russ, I can answer your questions for you.  hey, maybe if you sent me like,
5000 of those questionaires(survey thingies) I could come up with a down
payment for the D90.
Dan of Rosa    1800.862.7520
care of  CSC
631 martin avenue
Rohnert Park, Ca. 94928

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:46:49 -0600
From: "Peter C. Parsons" <pparsons@ppsol.com>
Subject: Disco exhaust bolts coming loose

I had posted to the group last week, saying that
my 94 Disco was making noise, as if it had 
an exhaust leak developing.  I called the dealer, 
in denver, and described it to them.  The service
manager immediatly said, "Oh it's the bolts on the
exhaust manifold to exhuast pipe on the side of
the engine at the bottom.  It happens to all Disco's.
Just snug them up, or bring it by.  

	So I looked.  The bolts weren't loose, all three
of them are gone!  I least I know the problem.  I've put
new ones on (8mm 1.0 fine pitch) for you other Disco 
owners that are at about 7k miles of use...  

	The dealership did say they would put a new gasket on
and redo it when next I could bring it by...

-Peter 

     _______
    |--' |  \_|_  
    |___ +--    ]
   [|_/-\____/-\|}
      (O)    (O)     '94 Disco 
"far superior to carrying your young in your mouth"

-Peter C. Parsons, 

 __________
|/\^_/v^/\^|
| SKYROVR  | 
|_colorado_|

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:58:39 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?

In message <199507131550.KAA02137@butler.uk.stratus.com> Alan Richer writes:
> To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> Well, I hate to do this, but the MDs tell me I have to...
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> to do this unless it was a choice between LR ownership and no LR
> ownership.
>      Signed, Breathless....

I saw a Dormobile at Scotty's a few months ago that had factory air 
conditioning.  The original sales slip was with the car & it was listed there.

As I remember the compressor pump was mounted on the right side.  The 
airconditioning unit itself was mounted high on the center of the bulkhead, 
above the engine.  It required a cut in the bonnet  and a cover fot the air 
conditioning unit.  It covered the space where the scuttle vents are located and
used the scuttle vents for the air conditioner output.  

This of course means no bonnet mounted tyre.

TeriAnn Wakeman              .sig closed for remodeling
twakeman@apple.com         
              
                         
                       

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:00:37 EDT
From: tonyb@ejv.com (Tony Bromberg)
Subject: Camel Trophy

Does anyone know when ESPN will broadcast this?
Or when and where is the actual thing being held?

Thanks
TonyB

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:46:15 -0700
From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell)
Subject: Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?

> to cram an air conditioner under the hood...  
> Anybody got any good ideas on this one?  
>      Signed, Breathless....

  It's time for Alan Lancendorfer to stand up and tell us about his A/C 109.

R, bg 

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 15:02:19 -0400
Subject: Re: #1(3) The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

In a message dated 95-07-13 06:33:59 EDT, I wrote,

>They were from A 1 Clutch components California.
>Rebuilt,But fine for 7 years now. I recently had a friend at Big A check and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
>LROA/NA Membership
>Paradise, CA

And then Bob added , this is for the 9 1/2 " clutch and the pressure plate is
complete. who would mess with pieces anyway?

Bob Bernar

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From: a-robw@microsoft.com
Subject: FW: Seeking Disco info
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 12:10:00 PDT

Dear LRO's,

Being new to this group, I hope you'll forgive any inadvertant
bumbling on my part, however I've decided to "upgrade" my Jeep
Wrangler to a L.R. Discovery in the near future. From my recent
"lurking", it seems the majority of the traffic has to do with
the older (what some might call "real") Land Rovers (e.g. the
SI-SIII), nevertheless, if there are any Disco owners about,
I'd appreciate some feedback on their experiences (1st, 2nd or
even 3rd hand) with the Discovery.

Thanks in advance!

 -- Bob Watson
a-robw@microsoft.com
70640.1025@compuserve.com

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From: hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 15:11:42 EST
Subject: Re: Disco exhaust bolts coming loose

My just-delivered Disco has foldover metal tabs (Part 
of the gasket?) to keep the subject nuts from vibrating 
loose or off.  Apparently, someone took this problem 
for action when it came up a while back, and the factory 
now turns out Discos with the engineering change 
incorporated.  A case of the system working!!!

Hank (1960 Ser2 109, 1995 Disco V8i stick)
"Hey kid, they're not snakes; they're moray 
eels...Oh, never mind."
> Subject: Disco exhaust bolts coming loose
> Author:  "Peter C. Parsons" <pparsons@ppsol.com> at Zeus

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 41 lines)]
> |_colorado_|

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:39:28 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Seeking Disco info

 Bob Watson <a-robw@microsoft.com> writes:

>Being new to this group, I hope you'll forgive any inadvertant
 bumbling on my part, however I've decided to "upgrade" my Jeep
 Wrangler to a L.R. Discovery in the near future. From my recent
 "lurking", it seems the majority of the traffic has to do with
 the older (what some might call "real") Land Rovers (e.g. the
 SI-SIII), nevertheless, if there are any Disco owners about,
 I'd appreciate some feedback on their experiences (1st, 2nd or
 even 3rd hand) with the Discovery.

 Bob, <---(Is this the 'Bob' that Microsoft named that new OS after?)

 You haven't been lurking long enough, there are quite a few Disco
 owners on lro@team.net.  They're probably having so much problem
 free fun that they don't write too often.  *:)

 If you're on the US West Coast, you may want to subscribe to the
 Left Coast Rover Net and join in on the fun and activities.  Write
 to  Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> and ask
 to subscribe.  Mail is sent to <mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us>
 to reach the group.  There are several Disco owners on the LCRN as well!

 In the mean time you can check the events calendar via anonymous ftp:
 <owens.ridgecrest.ca.us> in the file /pub/users/bens/Land_Rover_Events
 or the Web  ftp://owens.ridgecrest.ca.us/pub/users/bens/Land_Rover_Events
 Right now the file looks like this (no fancy html stuff, just ascii text).

 Tread Lightly!

 Michael Carradine   Carradine Studios                          cs@crl.com
 Architect           Architecture Development Planning    Pgr 510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA          PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA   Ph/Fax 510-988-0900

 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Beaches making us soft!!!
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:28:12 +0930 (CST)

dixon rebuts:

> 	Gotta keep away from the keyboard after a collation party <ahem>
> 	for the OVLR newsletter... :-)

still counts as sworking I guess

> > Guinness, Bah, *Real* land-rover owners drink Coopers Ale or Extra Stout..
> 	Send a case... :-)  Container might be more accurate though...

I think we did this beer thing a few years back.  Coopers extra stout has
just been awarded OZ beer of the year or some such guff, kinda like a darker
thicker creamier Guinness.  Yum on cold nights (see below) Hey why dont you
come over for Blinman 1997??

> 	Silly Aussies...  Come to a real climate.  The beaches are making
> 	you go soft...

Ok I would have agreed with this when I lived in Darwin but now I'm here in
"temperate" Adelaide its always too cold to go to the beach....  
(Ok so I'm a cold weather woose, take me back to the tropics NOW)
(this should bring a few SA lurkers out in the open :-)

> 	You ahve a 15 yr rule too, or what is the limits on bringing in
> 	interesting stuff from the UK?

Dixon I dont honestly know... Something to do with not having enough money to
consider it.   Cant be too severe as there are always lots of "californian" US
muscle cars available from importers and you see the occasional car with a
"special compliance" plate (ie personal import of non OZ available car  eg
TR8's).  I wonder what Leslie knows (you still with us ??)  Probably duties
and taxes would kill the appeal....  

cheers  
-- 

  Daryl

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: 101 diffs and lockers
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:40:16 +0930 (CST)

Brian writes:
> I know a few guys here in Victoria, Oz with 101s. Now since I have an 
> active interest in Salisbury diffs, I have peered hard at the 101 centres 
> and axles when friends have had them apart. One has 2 lock right lockers 
> fitted recently,

Ok stop me if I'm wrong... Lock - rights are automatic lockers and basically
just a refined (read more subtle/quieter) No-Spin "Detroit Locker"

101's run the lt95 box and as such are full-time 4x4.

So how much does the lock-right camming in and out affect steering, I know a
no-spin in the rear will make a 109 twitchy and have always wondered about a
front applications ever since some bloke tried very hard to sell me one.

on a similar note did anyone on the list find who is supplying for the Torsen
diff discussed a while back, or was the one in that Disco/D90 just a
prototype which never went into production????

cheers  

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:03:19 +0930
From: tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au (Tiffany Downing)
Subject: Sunshiny SA

Darryl

You're not running down South Australia are you   |-:   Nothing beats the 
fresh, sweet smell of the Patawolonga as they fush it out to sea!

Hey.  At least you don't live in Victoria!!!!

If there are any Victorian's on the air please don't take offense.  If you 
own a Land Rover you must be okay!! :-)

It's not the people in Victoria I take offense to it's just your government!!!

Are there any other South Australian's out there screaming down the 
SuperHighway in their Land Rover?

Tiffany Downing
Co-ordinator, International Student Program
TAFE South Australia, AUSTRALIA
Phone:  (61 8) 226 3202
Fax:    (61 8) 226 3655
E-Mail: tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 13 Jul 95 22:34:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Proper Land-Rover beer....

Speaking as a homebrewer, the best beer for an independent,
self-maintained Landy-owning proper type is homebrew, of course!

As i sit here enjoying a nice dark porter, i will ponder the proper style of
beer and report later...8*) -ajr

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: Sunshiny SA (joke)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 12:39:00 +0930 (CST)

Tiff bravely writes:
> If there are any Victorian's on the air please don't take offense.  If you 
> own a Land Rover you must be okay!! :-)

Well Craig's offline :-(, Looks like LLoyds on holidays, and Brian wont take
offense will he (g) 
 
> Are there any other South Australian's out there screaming down the 
> SuperHighway in their Land Rover?

More like clogging it up with oil, gung and wasted bandwidth (sorta like me)

Cant half tell when we gene jockeys are waiting for a gel to run or a digest
to complete.  eh Charlie :-)

-- 

  Daryl

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 23:25:26 -0400
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Toasted Valves

Well, I took the head off again...can do it in my sleep now...and stripped
it, removing springs, split cones, valve spring collars, and valves. Thanks
to Bill Maloney et al for talking me through this. Toasted they were...the
valves. I'm assuming that is where the mysterious clicking was coming from.
Now, I've got my expensive total valve kit from Rovers North and am on my
way to the machine shop in the morning, and have a few questions.
(1)Springs. The new ones are just one spring with no second spring inside.
Do I use it like it is? (2)What about those plastic collars that sit on top
of the old valve guides? Do I need them?

Chris Stevens                           1969 SRIIA 88" SW

BCG Corporate Communications
Towson, Maryland, USA
(410) 583-1722
(410) 583-1935 (FAX)
chrisste@Clark.net

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:01:52 +0930
From: tiffanyd@tafe.sa.edu.au (Tiffany Downing)
Subject: RE: Sunshiny SA (Joke)

Darryl

You must we working too hard and losing your memory.  I just received your 
last note twice!  (Or did it genetically replicate itself ????)

Tiff

:-)

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 23:44:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Range Rover front brush bars

Tony - My '89 RR has a lamp gaurds, bush bar and winch from Atlantic British.
 Here are my observations....  Don't get the lamp gaurds, especially the rear
ones.  I doubt that you'll ever need them for anything but "looks", and in
snowy climes they form very efficient snow baskets that obscure the head and
tail lights.  The bush bar is great, however.  What I have done to the front
of my RR is to remove the plastic spoiler (actually, a snow bank did most of
that for me - p.s.: the bush bar works very well with the air dam in place as
well), mount the bush bar, move the driving lamps from the air dam up between
the bush bar verticals, beneath the bumper on either side of the front plate,
and mount a 8,000# Super Winch in front of the grill on the bush bar.  I then
cleaned off all the tacky SuperWinch logos, got a LR green oval from AB, and
fixed it to the front of the winch.

The bush bar is very practical, more for hanging on to and strapping stuff to
your front end.  You'll be surprized at what you'll use it for (everything
but kangaroos).  The one disadvantage is that it makes the task of changing a
headlamp into a two hour ordeal.  The RR grill easily folds forward after
loosing a few tabs under the hood for headlamp repair, but with the bar in
place it has no place to fold forward to.  My set up is more complicated
because of the extra winch fixings.

Hope this helps - Tony

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 23:46:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Anybody ever A/C a Series IIa?

Yes - 1) Remove top.  2)  Fold windshield.

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 20:58:47 +0100
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Sunshiny SA (joke)

 Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au> writes:

>Looks like LLoyds on holidays,...

 Anyone else get this message when accessing his WWW page?

 403 Forbidden
 Your client does not have permission to get URL /~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover
 from this server.

>Cant half tell when we gene jockeys are waiting for a gel to run or a digest
 to complete.  eh Charlie :-)

 So what's a "gene jockey", someone who's always running around looking to
 complete their chromosome chain?

 Michael Carradine   Carradine Studios                          cs@crl.com
 Architect           Architecture Development Planning    Pgr 510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA          PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA   Ph/Fax 510-988-0900

 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re:Lloyds landy site
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:00:00 +0930 (CST)

Mike writes: 
> >Looks like LLoyds on holidays,...
>  Anyone else get this message when accessing his WWW page?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>  Your client does not have permission to get URL /~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover
>  from this server.

Uuuum well i just checked and yes I do... Worked fine last night (~19-20 hr
ago)  403 forbidden sounds serious, I hope the folk at Monash Uni havent spat
the dummy over all the hits his site has been getting. A crying shame if we
lose that site, (and get Lloyd into trouble to boot)

> >Cant half tell when we gene jockeys are waiting for a gel to run or a digest
>  to complete.  eh Charlie :-)
>  So what's a "gene jockey", someone who's always running around looking to
>  complete their chromosome chain?

"Gene Jockey" is a slightly degrading way of describing those persons who
practice (or in my case are learning) the noble art/science of molecular
biology and genetic engineering....

>  Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at:  http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html

Nice site :-)
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)
 
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 01:12:54 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Aerodynamically speaking....

James Howard of Flagstaff write about drafting off of an 18 wheeler...It all 
depends upon how brave/foolish you are.  I've tucked in behind semis before 
and had them pull me along 5 feet from the back door at 1/3 throttle.  The 
vacuum behind the big rigs is enormous, especially with that flat rear 
surface.  Several years ago, I was out in the field inspecting property when 
a squall line blew through.  Made it out of the woods and onto a 4 lane 
highway about the time that the *big* gusts (60+ MPH) hit.  After getting up 
to speed (heading due east with a west wind), I found that I could maintain 
35-40 MPH *in neutral* (no lie).
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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