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1 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.25stage-1
2 Franz.Parzefall@Physik.T39got my new baby!
3 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu34Re: stage-1's
4 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu16Re: got my new baby!
5 chi@dhvx20.csudh.edu 26Help with new car trouble. * engine halt while on slope *
6 mtzphil@vax.ccc.nottingh12Steering that goes bump in the night
7 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.32[not specified]
8 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000422Re: Steering That Goes Bump...
9 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em77Re: Misc.
10 "S.W.Brierley" [S.W.Brie37The road to Recovery (is damn long)
11 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em47Re: Defender in ca
12 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE19 diesel conversion
13 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em18Re: What to do, what to do...
14 jpappa01@InterServ.Com 27Re: Def 90 Station Wagon
15 Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu30Re: Defender in ca
16 kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berline32Re: Steering going bump
17 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca17[not specified]
18 jcfltee@CAM.ORG (Christi13YAKIMA RACKS
19 "gshroder" [gshroder@[197 index
20 David John Place [umplac12Re: MOT test blues
21 David John Place [umplac11Re: Gas (Oxygenated Fuels)
22 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A36On the repair of fender edges
23 jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (17Preloading the rear output shaft bearing (speedo. shims)
24 "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" [744Recent Digests
25 "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" [734Copy of: what is it ?
26 rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca19[not specified]
27 CpaulP@aol.com 11Re: Roof rack
28 Franz.Parzefall@Physik.T17Re: Gas (Oxygenated Fuels)


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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 17:43:10 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: stage-1

Mark Perry was asking about the Stage-1.
   This is really a S3A.  It is a 109 LWB only

and LT95 4spd full-time-4WD range rover transmission, 3.54:1 diffs,
drum-brakes, plastic-coated wire-mesh grille, and .... leaf springs.
The grille is flush with the front.

Stage-1 refers to stage 1 of an investment plan and
stage-2 was the 110, later defender.

The early 110s had either
 . V8, 4spd, as for stage-1 or
 . 2.25 petrol and diesel, 5spd
   with either . full-time 4wd
               . part-time 4wd as options (I think)
 . horizontal slat grille, pretty much as now

Lloyd

ta for the book ref'

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From: Franz.Parzefall@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Subject: got my new baby!
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:31:24 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi all,
yesterday I got my first Land Rover. So maybe I'm the youngest
LRO here on the list ;-). The guy selling the exmilitary 110
of which I told you some weeks ago, went down with the price
and I finally bought it. I drove some kilometers yesterday, just 
from one end of the town to the other were I live and I already
love it. It seems that I wont get that jealous_spoose_problem <sp?>.
My girlfriend likes driving it, too.
But I have some things I'm a little worried about:
-I am desperately seeking a name for the beast (so far I only know
it's male ;-)
-The wiper is relatively loud. It gives a loud clack when the blades
start wiping in the other direction (sorry for the bad English).
-Is it normal that you have to nearly smash the doors or are
they maladjusted?
-For the German list members only: I need a good (read: cheap)
insurance for trucks (LKW!). Any hints?
-Where can I get a center seat? I have those white-grey-black 
Defender seats with neck rests in there and would like to insert
one in the middle, too. The guy I bought the car from told me,
he mailordered the seats from the UK and paid 80DM (~57 US$)
just for shipping. Can I mount the seatbelt for the center seat
at the already existing seatbelt mountings?

I hope I can sell my old car and get the Landy licenced! 

Thanks
Franz
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Franz Parzefall     fparzefa@physik.tu-muenchen.de     

exmil. 110 2.5D
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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: stage-1's
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 18:02:14 +0930 (CST)

Lloyd writes:
              (snip)

> (hardtop, ute, station wagon, high-cap ute) with the 3.5L V8
> and LT95 4spd full-time-4WD range rover transmission, 3.54:1 diffs,

This raises a question, does anyone know if 4.7 diffs and 0.996 transfers
were ever fitted factory (OZ) to stage-1's.

Why do I ask?? well this is how my stage-1 is set up.  I know of two others,
one the same month as mine (12/82), with the same "deluxe" trim. (ie highback
cloth buckets etc, only heard about the other from a mechanic/parts supplier)
The front 4.7 diff is of the late (r) type, has two threaded down facing
holes on the flat below the pinion much like 110/rangie and appears to be
appropriate to the era. The front diff does not have cv joints but standard
sIII universals, dont know if the housings will accept the CV or not.    

While I happily accept the possibility of a PO making cost saving repairs the
existance of at least one other near identical vehicle set up the same makes
me wonder.....  Awfull expensive cost saver too, two new diffs and modified
ransfer... 

Any thoughts?

cheers
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Re: got my new baby!
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 18:04:53 +0930 (CST)

Franz writes:
> But I have some things I'm a little worried about:
> -I am desperately seeking a name for the beast (so far I only know
> it's male ;-)

Funny how ALL 110's are male isnt it.:-)

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: chi@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 1995 02:29:33 PST
Subject: Help with new car trouble. * engine halt while on slope *

Dear LRO,
        I have a question about the new Range Rover which I purchased on
6/30/95.  What happened was when the car was on the hill and whether or not my
foot is on the gas paddle or the break the engine sometimes would just die.
 
I tried to let the car roll backward while the gear is still in Drive mode, the
engine would just stop running every time when I do that.  Other than this
problem, the car seems to be running fine on the flat road surface.
Since this is a long weekend, fourth of July, I would have to wait until
Wednesday to get the car back to the dealer for repair.
 
My question is: if this is a major problem for a new car, what is the best
thing I can do to fix this problem?  Also, is it possible for me to talk to
the dealers in exchange for a new car?
 
If you have any suggestions or comments please let me know about it via E-mail.
chi@dhvx20.csudh.edu
 
Thank you very much for your help!
Denny

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From: mtzphil@vax.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 1995 10:38:42 BST
Subject: Steering that goes bump in the night

Tony - Could be the front driveshaft CV joint. This produces a marked
knocking sound on turning corners when its on the way out. Replacement
is easy and relatively cheap - covered in an article in a recent edition
of LRO.

Phil Taylor (73 lt/wt, 90 disco V8)

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:35:33 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>

This bounced:
>  To: lro-au@team.net
so non-au plsz excuse me posting it here.

I have no idea how many are on the local `au' list.
I suspect that the traffic on the main list is really not enough
to warrant the subdivisions.  For example the traffic
on the rover car (2WD) list is very intermittent.

I also suspect that Bill C. really wanted a local to take on the
local list -- would make a lot of sense in bandwidth if the traffic grew.
Any offers?!

Coil spring conversions:  I have seen one Light-weight (!) on a coil-sprung
chassis at the LROC(Vic) field day but I don't know any details of
the conversion except that it looked neat and tidy.

While I'm here, has anyone any info on:
 . preparations for the 50th anniversary,
 . new RR in oz
 . coming events
 . new wwweb pages (esp' series ones - where are the true believers?)
 . I'm looking for pictures of Landies in oz for the wwweb
   - have a couple from the Snowy Mtns Hydro Elec Auth but I must write
   to them for permission to use them.
   Does anyone have contacts there?

Lloyd

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Date: 04 Jul 95 09:29:14 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Steering That Goes Bump...

> the front end.  Then the steering started to pulsate during turns, a little,
> but not exactly, like wheel-hop on hard pavement with the dif-lock on.  Now
> it's rythmically clunking (thwap, thwap, thwap...) during turns, like

HAVE YOU CHECKED THE WHEEL LUGNUTS? If one or more of them are loose,
or torque is uneven, it can produce exactly such symptoms.

Other candidates (in the order of likelyhood): Suspension bushings (radius
arms, panhard rod), tie rod ends (loose, worn), front constant velocity
joint(s) breaking up (e.g. due to lack of oil in the swivel pin housing),
front diff acting up, front hub bearing(s).

Let's hope it's just a loose lugnut (though this would be the most dangerous
situation... hello... are you still there?)

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:41:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Misc.

On Mon, 3 Jul 1995, Jim Pappas wrote:

> Just back from Owl's Head. The best yet. Various counts were made, but 
> concensus was on the order of 112 Land Rovers!!! Wow.

	A count just before noon came up with 102 vehicles (yes, more 
	arrived later, though some left.  at about 2pm it was at 107,
	but here is the noon count).  Saw a number of the LRO@team.net
	placards on various land rovers.  Counted at least ten list members
	at the Rally (You, Bill Maloney, Steve Denis, T. Dolan, Mike
	Loiodice, Spencer Norcross, Ben Smith (who now has to drive
	back to California after driving to the OVLR Birthday Party),
	Trevor Easton etc...  (Roger, you could have been there... :-))

	80"     	= 1
	107		= 1
	II/IIA 88	= 38
	  "    109	= 11
	III 88		= 17
	 "  109		= 1
	D90		= 4
	D110		= 1
	RR lwb		= 12
	 " 4SE		= 3
	Disco		= 9
	Rover car	= 1  (P5?)
	Others		= 4  (hybrids)
	109 Stage 1     = 1  (created, not orig one)

	A lot of credit has to go to Myles Murphy who started this rally
	and continues to organise it and keep it growing and being the
	excellent showing that it was.  

> Off Road on Sat. was very well attended (except that I was stuck in the 95N 
> parking lot and missed it!) with over 40 vehicles there!

	Was a lot of fun.  54 vehicles were at the event hosted by the
	East Coast Rover Co.  They created a light off-road course that
	tended towards a medium as the tracks got churned up by some 
	vehicles with a small pond at the end to was the vehivle up.
	(The drop into the pond was rather steep and only the 80" and
	a 88" with lockers were able to get up it)  ECR put on a rather
	nice lunch for those there that had sent Myles the 
	pre-registration form or had called.

	As per being stuck on 95N, it is a holiday weekend Jim!  It should
	be a parking lot.  Next year go straight north and come at Camden
	from the west or north.  Zero traffic coming in down 17 through
	Augusta.  100+ kph most of the way.  The Ottawa -> Camden run
	was 805km and took nine hours (in a SAAB.  Had to work Friday &
	I arrived at 6am as it was Sat am.)

> Some really nicely restored Series landies were on hand including an 
> immaculate 4-sale ($27K!!) NADA 6-cyl 109. Coupla Dormobiles, a Defender
> 130 (!) Plenty of Discos compared with only a couple last year - and a 
> good bunch of D90's. Only a single D110.

	That much for the NADA?  Didn't ask.  Was in pretty good shape.
	What mine shoiuld look like, but probably never will.  (The beauty
	marks on mine are far too useful commuting to work.  Keeps people
	far away.  Never been cut off yet.. :-))  Two dormobiles plus
	Herbert Zimkin's customised 109 that went across Africa and Europe
	in the early 1960's.

> Not confirmed though.  Nor any info on pricing or color choice - if any 
> choices. I'll keep you posted.

	No TDi?  Is EPA approved as I understand...

	Rgds,

	Dixon

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 14:52:51 +0100
From: "S.W.Brierley" <S.W.Brierley@dl.ac.uk>
Subject: The road to Recovery (is damn long)

Hi Fellow owners/enthusiasts,

Here is my tale of woe, which is still not concluded even
now. It is the story of 'Emma'-its short for Haemorrhoid, 
this is because they are both a pain in the ass. "Emma"
is my 1976 SWB Ser III, sporting a unwell V8.
A while back she killed her water pump, which wasn't too 
bad except that the new one had to be modified so as to
get it to fit under the bonnet( the shaft fouls on the
radiator if left standard), much messing about got the 
pump modified. After the pump, there was the overheating,
this is what had killed the pump, because the head gaskets 
were leaking compression in to the water system, blowing
the front seal on the pump. So the head gaskets were done
by myself. Ahhhh now we are getting there..... NO.
I think i will replace the Stromberg carbs with some lovely
reconditioned SU's. So this was duly done.....
Now the damn thing wont run on all 8 cylinders due to some
form of electrical problem.
So to summarize, the pump was replaced as neccesity, the 
radiator was uprated to improved cooling version by choice,
the Carbs were by choice( wanted more ooooomph), the head
gaskets were necessity, and the plugs and HT leads were
by choice..... and its still not running yet!!!!!!!.
Its seen the local LR parts supplier, the local LR "expert",
the local Carb reconditioning place, and now the local
garage (where the MOT gets done). All fitting and modifying
was done by myself, so maybe thats the problem, i should
stop being tightfisted and pay for future work.
Oh well.... But, I AM NOT GETTING RID OF IT, contrary to
popular "advice". 
I will keep you guys updated.  STU.

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:06:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Defender in ca

On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Gowyn Wilcox wrote:

> Sorry to bore you all, but this is mainly a colonial question.  Does anyone
> know why the D90 will no longer be sold in Canada?  I was planning on
> looking into one in a couple of years, but now what.  And what about buying
> stateside?  Also for any of you LRNA types, why is a real work horse only
> sold at high end, snobby, full of themselves BMW, Jag dealerships?

	They are not selling very well in Canada.  The current config is 
	perfect for the rich California market but is a disaster for the
	general Canadian market were the TDi stripper would sell a lot
	faster.  Like, a soft top with our winters?  Get real Solihull...
	However, the marketing types (the first up against the wall when
	the revolution comes...) have decided that we are not going to
	get a stripper over here at this time.  LR wants the top end of 
	the market.  

	At times, I seriously doubt that LR even wants to 
	sell any D90's over here.  They are interested in selling
	Disco's and Range Rovers.  They had to offer the D90, especially
	with their advertising that shows how long Land Rovers (opps,
	read the new marketing dribble from the UK.  There was never
	any Series Vehicles!  They were Defender 80"'s, Defender fire
	tenders (built in the mid 1950's on 107 chassis), Defender this
	& Defender that!  Amazing...)  I have talked with the Managing 
	DIrector  at Land Rover Canada about this.  He says he tried
	to get a stripper over here (TDi, hard top, no roll bars, steel
	wheels etc) but Solihull wouldn't bite (and probably neither would
	LRNA who ultimately controls LRCanada (Dumb.  Volvo tried this
	subsidiary approach for years and it failed miserably.  Now Volvo
	Canada reports to Sweden.  Canada & the USA are very different 
	markets once the yuppie scum (which is the same everywhere) is 
	excised...  They will eventually see this, though LR is run 
	by marketing-types now.  No longer does the engineer rule there
	(You must also remember that "LR" or Rover Group is just a name
	change from our most favourite Br*t*sh L**l*nd corp, the epitome
	of quality and labour harmony).  I need a coffee...  

> While I'm at it, I've heard several not so flattering comments about the
> D90, I'm just wondering if these are true or not,  

	Not sure if it is safe to discuss this one yet... :-)

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Tue, 4 Jul 1995 09:12:06 GMT -0600
Subject:       diesel conversion

Someone was asking about diesel conversion, I don't know who, I just saw a 
reply today. If you're considering a Perkins 4203 and want some info, I've 
done some and will be glad to share my experiences with you. You can e-mail me 
directly if you want.
Tom

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: What to do, what to do...

On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, Alexander P. Grice wrote:

> I was up there a month ago, and I can assure all those attending the 
> Mid-Atlantic Rally that the mud pit Mike built IS GOING TO SNARE VEHICLES!  
> Last fall, it had been dry for months, so the mud was minimal.  A month ago, 
> it was a boot-sucking quagmire, and after this week's floods, *I challenge 
> you* to get through it!

	Piffle...  Getting through is easy.  Drive in.  If you get
	stuck, winch your way through.  Why else have a Koneig on the
	front?  If you don't have a winch & you drive in...

	This like earth or is it clay?  Any bottom to it?

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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 08:02:56 PDT
Subject: Re: 	Def 90 Station Wagon

Followup on the NAS D90 HARDTOP Station Wagon. There will be a total of 540 of 
these produced; commencing with September production - running until the end 
of the year. These will be allocated into spring of 1996 as 1995 models. 
Again, there will be NO *1996* Defender 90 of any type. I am making an 
assumption that, as with the NAS Defender 110, these 540 units will largely be 
presold.

I still have not seen a photo of one, however I have been told that an 
exterior cage such as the Safety Devices unit on the D110 will be standard 
along with a fully finished interior and the traditional four folding 
jumpseats for a seating capacity of six.

I know nothing of pricing and/or color(s) at this time but will post as soon 
as I do.

And, as many attending Owl's Head found out, the TDi HAS been certified for 
NAS, *BUT* I have heard *NOTHING* about any imminent plans to offer it - at 
least in the US.

cheerz
Jim - now completely mad... and loving it!

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Defender in ca
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:58:45 BST

Chance my arm here..........
Comments on the 90,unfavourable thereof.Just this last week,
an undergrad at this university appeared in a naturally
aspirated 2.5 (I assume) 90.I also assume,having been in 
the situation myself,that his parents had said something
like"If you think I'm fetching all *that* junk home,you
can think again,sunshine,heres a company Land Rover,go
and bring it back yourself,and if it wont fit,tough".
The Rover was nine years old,and a company vehicle,
judging by the signwriting on the hardtop sides.
The rear X member/chassis joint had already had some
*very* messy welding done to it,and I would be getting
somewhat worried about the state of the chassis generally
had it been mine(I wish!).The bodywork was dinged,mudflaps
missing,lamps broken etc,but after all,it *was* a working
vehicle,so you cant hold that against it.
The engine sounded healthy enough,and didnt smoke,although
the kid stalled it repeatedly,and couldnt park it very well,
so hadnt done many hours on the type.The interior looked fairly
tidy,so had stood up to the hammer quite well.No visible oil
leaks.
So draw what conclusions you may from those observations.If any.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 10:56:48 -0500
From: kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berliner)
Subject: Re: Steering going bump

Based by your computer typed description of those 89 RR sounds, they sound
like something I may have experience with.  Let me recount a story... (OK a
short one!)

Shortly after I first purchased the car, it would make a rubbing noise when
I'd turn.  I thought something was up, but my friend Andy (he knows all)
told me it was nothing to worry about.  Well conveniently as I was driving
to visit Andy, there was a loud clunk, no it was a clank, anyway after that
whenever I'd turn the wheels, there'd be a crunching type noise.  Aparently
the inner seals of the CV joint leaked and there was no oil in the CV
joint.  The CV joint was broken and needed replacing.  Since I was at
Andy's, we just put the car up on stilts, took off the wheel and took out
the axle and CV joint.  I drove a RWD RR for a couple of weeks until we put
the new CV in.

I strongly suspect this may be your problem.

kgb
89 RR

P.S. Funny how only 89 RR's are having problems.  Hmmmm...

*********************************************************
Reachable at
E-mail: kgb@uic.edu
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Subject: oem rebuilt parts
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 95 21:43:49 -0500

Land Rover in the UK has a rebuild program on major items such as 
trannies ?gearboexes engines etc.

Does anyone have any experience and price comments?

rgds

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 16:33:23 -0400
From: jcfltee@CAM.ORG (Christian Tassé)
Subject: YAKIMA RACKS

Hi,

Does anyone have the address and phone number for the YAKIMA manufacturer.

Thank you.

Christian tasse
Discovery 1995

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From: "gshroder" <gshroder@[196.7.70.131]>
Date:          Tue, 4 Jul 1995 22:45:30 +0000
Subject:       index

index lro-digest

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 17:34:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: MOT test blues

In response to your problem of not being able to drive your LR before 
MOT testing. 
Guess you could jack the back end up and let it drive with no wheels for 
a few hours.  Remember to alter the revs from time to time or you will 
have an engine with a speed memory like old NiCad batteries. If you could 
find a moving road machine in some test facility that would solve the 
whole problem.  Dave VE4PN  

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 17:39:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Gas (Oxygenated Fuels)

I have long suspected that if you switch to ethanol type gas in an old 
vehicle you are asking for problems.  I have noticed on a few old cars I 
have owned that, yes you get a boost in performance, but you also get 
paper thin gas tanks very quickly.  I suspect that the blend eats rust 
and in some vehicles it is only the rust that stops you seeing into the 
tank! Dave VE4PN

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  4 Jul 95 21:03:01 EDT
Subject: On the repair of fender edges

Well, the corroded-aluminum bandit stuck my beloved 109
when I wasn't looking - 31 years worth!

While awaiting a replacement rear seal from Atlantic British, I decided
to do some of the coachwork repair that's on my list for Churchill's
refurbishment. Part of this process was repairing damaged bottom edges
on both front fenders. The PO had obviosly not been a good parker,
and the front bottoms of both fenders had been pushed in.

Following the instructions in LR's manual, I heated the folded-up bottom edges
in an effort to straighten them (and the bottom of the fender). No go - they 
broke 
right off...

It was about this time my synapses started to fire and I realized that I'd have
to replace this edge to keep the metal from cracking. 10 minutes and a trip to
 the local home center later I had my answer - Reynold's Aluminum channel.

Reynolds Aluminum makes a u-channel designed to fit over the edge of 1/2"
plywood, making it 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/2" and about 1/16" thick. This proved to be
ideal, as a section of this fitted just above where the old lip was on the 
inside
of the fender edge and held in place with countersunk Pop-Rivets gave the
 fender back all of the rigidity it originally had and more. 

After fitting it, a bit of sanding and some spot putty covered the rivet heads 
giving an original appearance with no loss of structural strength. After it's
painted, you'll never even see it.

     Just my tuppence worth...ajr

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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 18:10:48 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Preloading the rear output shaft bearing (speedo. shims)

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with techniques for pre 
loading the rear output bearing (from the transfer box through the 
speedometer housing).  I've followed the Haynes manual technique of 
preloading at about 2-3 pounds using a lead weight rather than pull 
spring and measuring the appropriate shim thickness.  After installing 
the appropriate shims and attaching the speedometer housing and worm 
gear the shaft seems a bit tight.  I've nothing to compare it too 
though.

Thanks in advance.

Jeremy Bartlett

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Date: 04 Jul 95 21:37:04 EDT
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Recent Digests

Peter Aslan  The first rule of  clutch problems on a ser 2 or 2a is to check the
cross pins in the joint tube from the clutch slave cylinder bracket to the
clutch shaft on the gearbox, by check I mean take them out and be sure that they
are in one piece, they often break into two pieces and the parts stay in place,
however the break creates a lot of backlash in the system  and the lost motion
results in gear grating or an inabilty to clear the clutch to change gear. If
thay are broken use a long 1/4 dia bolt
ie one in which the plain portion is over an inch long.

Stephen  The golden rule for temperature problems,  First check the instrument
. start  checking the system by removing the sender, clip an earth wire to it
and put the complete assembly  into a pan of BOILING water, you will then see
what 100 deg C ( or 212 deg F in the colonies ) reads like on the gauge, you
will find most of them to be pretty inacurate. I once tried 20 different sensors
before I found one that read 100 deg on the gauge.

  Steven Swiger    land rover gearboxes that have been used in two wheel drive
for long periods without 4 wheel drive engagement usually suffer from siezure of
the engage / disengage shafts. If you look at the front of the transfer housing
where the rear of the front prop shaft fits you will see a metal cover
consisting of two tubes fastened to a plate, if  you reve this assembly it
exposes the end of two shafts, clean these up and spray with WD40 or similar and
attempt to move the shafts in and out until they are free, , the 4 wd shaft if
spring loaded, cover with  anti sieze grease and replace the cover. Then Happy 4
wheeling.

To remove ball joints from the steering arm there are a number of special tools
available which work with varying degrees of success, my usual method is to use
2  1 1/2 pound hammers, after removing the pin and securing nut, strike each
side of the steering arm, simultaneously with the hammers, the trick is  "
simultaneously ' which you will feel when both hammers have a good springback,
wish I could do a drawing to aid in the explanation,  after a few good
simultaneous strikes the ball jopint will spring out of the tapered socket.
 If you want to remove by striking the end of the screw thread it is important
to provide some support for the arm, otherwise most of the applied force is lost
in bending the arm,
  Happy holiday to the colonists.

  Bill Leacock    Limey in exile.

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Date: 04 Jul 95 21:37:10 EDT
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Copy of: what is it ?

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

From:	WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK, 75473,3572
TO:	"Seymour, Gareth", INTERNET:GSeymour@mp.sihe.ac.uk
DATE:	7/4/95 9:10 AM

RE:	Copy of: what is it ?

I suggest you count the teeth on the crown wheel more carefully , then count the
numberof teeth on the pinion, see chart :
    model               ratio                      crownwheel           pinion
 Std landrover    4.7:1	        47                	10	
Rover 90   &         4.3			43              10
P5 manual 
P5 auto                3.9			39              10
Range rover,       3.54                                    47               13
90,110, & 
P5 Mk3 auto             
 LR 80, 1948/9     4.88                                   ?                 ?

 As you can see there are'nt any 'standard' Rover ratios that have 46 teeth
crownwheels, it is easy to miss one on the 47 count. Then check the pinion to
see if it is 4.7 or 3.54. The latter are worth much more than the 4.7's.
 There are a couple of companies offering thier own brand of high ration
differentials with ratios higher than the 3.5. ( calculation is simply number of
crown wheel teeth divided by the number of pinion teeth )
  If it really has 46 then it is some kind of special.
   Regards    Bill Leacock.               Limey in exile   

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Subject: Land Rover products at the movies
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 95 22:34:10 -0500

My kids have just come back (drat) from the movies. They went to see the 
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST. My nine year old son came rushing up stairs to 
tell me that a Range Rover is the vehicle of choice for the female 
villain in the movie. Apparently the vehicle gets smacked about by a 
wrecking ball and nearly driven of a cliff but still remains driveable. 
Sounds like a true Land Rover product too me.

TTFN

Robin

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: CpaulP@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 02:11:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Roof rack

Recently tried the Yakima roof rack system for the 95 Disco.  It does not
work.  Particularly bad is the rear rack which scratches the body as you try
to tighten down the rack foot. Also, with the Yakima you cannot open the rear
sun roof.  It barely clears the glass when closed.  I ended up going with a
Thule system which works very well.

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From: Franz.Parzefall@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Subject: Re: Gas (Oxygenated Fuels) 
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:29:11 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi
Some wrote about oxigenated fuel.
I read the users manual of my 110 this morning in the subway.
Land Rover tells not to use fuel mixed with ethanol or methanol,
'cause it will damage the engine. 

only my 2 cents.
Franz
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Franz Parzefall     fparzefa@physik.tu-muenchen.de     
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