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From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Driving with Transmission Brake On
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 9:15:29 BST

> I drove about a block and a half with the transmission brake on until I
> smelled something burning.  At that point I checked and disengaged the brake.

We managed to drive 3 miles at highish speed offroad with it on and 
set fire to the oil in the handbrake.  The only effect so far (2 months
on) is that it works better than it did before the fire.  I
guess the oil still hasn't returned in full flow!

I wouldn't worry about it unless it stops working.

All the best,

Andy

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Date: 27 Jun 95 05:37:21 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Problems selling RR

> Front and rear axle seals (one in front and one in rear).  The local dealer
> says about $250 per wheel so we're looking at $500 there.  ....

??? What exactly is he talking about? First of all, I don't know of any
seal or gasket that costs that much. Now, does he mean the diff seals,
or hub seals, or what? Oil drops on the rear diff have usually splashed
there from the 'sweating' transmission during driving. Besides, never
seen leaking diffs _or_ hub seals, for that matter, on such a relatively
new RR (presumably on-road only).
Transfer case leak: Renew the bottom gasket (coat with Hylomar) and affix
bottom cover evenly with correct torque - should resolve the problem.
A hub seal leak would be serious (though I strongly doubt that they leak -
thin oily streaks whould have to appear on the inner side of the road wheels
and brake discs). Everything else mentioned (unless the car actually *drips*
when stationary) is, er, 'Rover-specific' and not tragic, nothing to have
a bad conscience about. And anyway, "caveat emptor".

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Subject: ovlr birthday party snippets
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 05:25:24 -0500

                 OVLR BIRTHDAY PARTY

been there, done it, do it again next year!

Wow! some spectacular shots hopefu.lly on the rolls of film I shot. Some 
great quotes though.

Guy wtih a D90 after having got it scratched on the off road trip said: 
What am I going to do, wait for five years before driving it off rad, no 
way, this vehicle was meant to be used. Great attitude if you ask me

One guy commenting on the two 101's and how they perfomed in comparison 
to one that used to run here a numbewr of years ago: Well i dont think 
think they drove them as well as he used to drive his, my reply: perhaps 
but at least theirs are running and his dont run no more!!

ttfn

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:55:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Driving with Transmission Brake On

Speaking of handbrakes....  A while back I had to pull the center consule out
of my '89 RR to install some electronics in the space.  To do this the
handbrake handle had to be disengaged from the cable to facilitate the
removal.  After reassembly, the brake still works, but there is little spring
action in the button and none in the lever.  If you push the button in to
disengage the lock, the lever is just dead and sits there.  You have to push
it down and pry the little button out.  Any ideas? - Tony

-

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:19:23 -0400
From: afpgreg@gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us (Paul V. Gregory)
Subject: Downeast Meet 

>From: Hldixon@aol.com
>Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 07:52:34 -0400
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>Anybody going to the Downeast event this weekend?
>------------------------------

        Yepper!  I'll be at Owl's Head on Sunday either in my Green 88
w/blue pickup cab or in my very yellow P-6.  I hope that P-36(?) Mustang
returns for the airshow; a Merlin 12 makes such sweet music!
                                                --Paul   

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From: R.ALLEN@tasc.ac.uk
Date:         26 Jun 95 19:06:37 GMT
Subject:      Diesel Engine

Any diesel engine experts out there? My LR 110 with the 2.5 n/a
engine was rebuilt about 10,000 miles ago following the cracking in
two of a piston at 82,000 miles;the other pistons all showed a crack
developing from the apex of the machined "v". Prior to this it
started and ran ok, but lacked power.As my ownership started at
37,000miles I can only assume this failure was due to abuse from the
previous commercial operator! An extensive (and expensive) rebuild
followed: rebore,bearings,camshaft,oil pump,exhaust valves and
guides,hot spots etc, which I assembled myself and carefully ran in.
However I can't say it runs any better than it did,which is a bit
disappointing. The timing of the injection pump was checked with the
pin in the flywheel housing and the one in the side of the pump and
is spot on.There is slight black smoke under load.Is it possible that
the timing is still not correct, or is the pump faulty?
I heard mention of "advancing" the pump  to increase power ,how is
this done, is it possible to rotate the pump body to optimise timing
as one would the distributor on a petrol engine? Any info would be
appreciated.

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Brake Bleeders
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 08:58:00 DST

One of the reasons that bleed screws seize is that the innards are exposed 
to the elements when the bleeder is closed.( Just look at a bleed screw, 
there's a hole down the middle, a cross drilling and the end that keeps the 
fluid in. )  After bleeding the brakes and closing all the nipples, always 
put a dab of anti seize in the end and cap it with one of those little 
rubber thingies. Use a rubber and always have safe braking.

Trevor Easton and Miss Golightly.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:57:13 GMT -0600
Subject:       L/R models & Series master cyl.

The Pink Panther and ambulance models were by Tamyia(sp?) unless they've been 
bought by another company. Also Monagram makes/made a civilian 88 Ser III.
Email me directly and I'll get the PN for you as I have several of each still 
in the boxes.

I got reminded yesterday that I hadn't posted the PN for the Jeep dual master 
that fits L/R. My appologies to anyone wanting it. I'm getting closer. I 
found the number and wrote it down, but forgot to bring it in with me today:-( 
Normally I'd post it from home but my computer is on it's way to becoming a 
web server and I have it here at work for a few days installing OS/2 and the 
server software. So tomorrow. I hope.

I have a question also regarding L/R hydraulics.

I had to rebuild my clutch slave cyl and since I hadn't done one in several 
years, thought I'd peruse the manual. It said to coat the piston seal with the 
Girling grease??? I've never done that before. The Lucas/Girling sheet that
came w/the kit didn't mention that, only packing the dust cup. Does anyone 
have actual experience doing it one way vs the other?
If it matters, I'm using Silicone fluid in it. I'm confident that the reason 
I'm needing to do it is that when I switched to silicone I didn't have a 
clutch cyl kit and just cleaned the one I had. I could see at the time it was 
deteriorated.
Tom

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578         Four wheel drive allows you to get
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:05:01 -0400
Subject: Owl's Head

Was just wondering- Does anyone know if Bay State Rover Club and others will
be meeting up (Fri.) at the beginning of the Maine Turnpike for a 'convoy'
north to DownEast? If anyone could let me know if thats happening again and
if so, at what time, I'll try to join up as well. Otherwise, will probably
take backroads across NH and explore for the day on the way to campground.
If anyone going to Owl's Head needs windshield repair to their _Rover_, find
me (Superglass, Vt. plates, bronze green, cargo rack) and I'll do it for a
donation. Please, no large cracks (>12").
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (econobox?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! 

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Diesel Engine
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:10:13 BST

Not an *expert*,more a fellow sufferer:-)....but
you dont say what sort of performance/fuel consumption
you get.From what you say,it sounds very much as though
that's all you *are* going to get!After all,the 2.5 N/A
isnt all that much beefier than the 2.25,and with a 110
to lug round perhaps wont be too quick even in good nick.
Perhaps an injector setup might be in order,which seems
to be the only thing you dont mention having done.
Unless,of course the lift pump isnt up to scratch,and
isnt delivering enough juice to the distributor pump?

Cheers

Mike Rooth

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Rover BRM Gas Turbine
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 09:20:00 DST

Lloyd Allison enquires about Rover BRM.
I have the August 1966 Car and Driver which states it averaged 107.8 mph for 
24 hours at LeMans in 1963 and 98.8 mph in 1965 (so much for development!!)
If anyone would like a copy of the article on driving the Rover turbine let 
me know a fax number or snail mail address and I'll send.

Trevor Easton and Miss "I'm offended by speeds over 60"  Golightly 

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Date: 27 Jun 95 09:24:35 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Driving with Transmission Brake On

> I drove about a block and a half with the transmission brake on until I
> smelled something burning.  ...<snip>...
  <snip>
> ...   If there are no immediate problems and it seems to work now, are
> there any other potential problems which I simply haven't discovered yet?

Depends how hot the unit got. Excessive heat development might have damaged
the rear transfer case seal. Watch for oil leaking into, or out of the
hand brake drum, check for oil-smeared hand brake linings...  Since oil
leaking into the hand break is flung out by the revolving drum and distributed
evenly over the chassis while driving, such an oil loss might go unoticed
for a while. Next time, after the car has been standing for a while (e.g.
overnight), *before* you drive off get underneath and check the hand break
drum. If there's a big fat drop of gear oil hanging from it, and perhaps
more fresh oil spots just underneath on the pavement, investigate further...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 27 Jun 95 09:23:21 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Seats

>We have just bought a '75 Ser III 88", I want to change the seats as part of
>the overhaul, could any of you folks tell me what options I have for installing
>seats with head restraints, buckets, etc. and what modifications would have to

You can put in the regular "new" seats w/headrests from a Defender, with the
following modifications/precautions: You have to remove the original seat
sliding rails completely and take the (tubular) slide rails from the new
seats. You'll have to drill at least 2 new holes per seat into the seat box
to bolt on the Defender seat rails (watch it in case you have a tank under
your seat!) Position the new seats as much to the rear and to the center as
possible, short of actually obstructing the central opening flap of the seat
box. The centre seat squab will have to *squeezed* in between the new seats,
the centre seat backrest will have to be left out completely. Reason for
all this: The new seats are quite a bit broader than the original plastic
bumeaters. If you position them right on where the old seats were you and
your passenger will constantly have your shoulder and ellbow pressed against
door and window.

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: ovlr birthday party snippets

On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Robin Craig wrote:

>                  OVLR BIRTHDAY PARTY
> been there, done it, do it again next year!

	36+ Land Rovers (2 101's, 2 lightweights, more military LR stuff 
			 etc.  )
	90+ People      (of which about 10+ were from the LRO list:  Mike 
			 Loiodice, Steve Denis, Ben Smith, Roger Sinisohn,
			 Bill Maloney, Russ Wilson, Jon Humphrey, Jan
	 		 Hilborne, Spencer Norcross, Russell Dushin, 
			 Nancy C, The Ottawa LRO people etc...
			 Distance awards:  Ben Smith.  Drove his Series III
			 from California to Ottawa.  Roger Sinisohn took
			 the easy route and flew to Ottawa.
			 Heart in the Right place award:  Roy Caldwell who
			 shipped a case of Black Dog Ale via Ben to Ottawa
			 for the LRO list people in attendance (good stuff
			 too!)
	
	Arriving there Friday night with Spencer in tow we found twenty
	Land Rovers worth of people already there camped out and partying 
	heavily.  Saturday saw a two hour long light off road around the 
	hills and dales of the Silver Lake area, lunch provided by OVLR,
	a light and heavy off-road in the afternoon.  Dinner was provided
	by the club, and heavy partying was the main activity of the 
	evening.   Sunday saw the club provide breakfast and hold an
	auction of items donated to the club by Rovers North, Atlantic
	British Parts (Mechanicsville), and Land Rover Canada and awards
	to some of the more unique occurances (prehistoric mating where 
	the two 101's got a wee bit to intimate and Bill Maloney who became
	the first person to get stuck on this light off-road etc.)
	Since I wrte the OVLR newsletter and could be considered club
	propogandist, I'll let some of the other list people describe 
	what they thought about the Birthday Party...  Next stop, Myles
	Murphy's Downeast Rally in Owl's Head Maine... :-)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 08:54:27 -0600
From: "Peter C. Parsons" <pparsons@ppsol.com>
Subject: Disco sounds like 'The ghost of Gene Cooper with an overhead cam, and glasspacks'

Hi all, 
	(the subject line was lifted from an old Tom Waits song wherein he
was describing the sound of his auto....)
	So my newish (9000 miles) Disco just started sounding like my 
69 commando.  When warm/hot engine temp it sounds like there
is an exhaust leak or hole in the muffler.  Step on the gas, and youser! I
might as well get a old `88 and pocket the difference!  Any other Disco 
owners had this problem?  Am I right on schedule for everything starting 
to rattle loose?  I am heading it toward the dealer (warranty work) but I
am curious to see if anyone else has had this problem. 

Thanks in advance!
     _______
    |--' |  \_|_  
    |___ +--    ]
   [|_/-\____/-\|}
      (O)    (O)     '94 Disco 
"far superior to carrying your young in your mouth"

-Peter C. Parsons, 

 __________
|/\^_/v^/\^|
| SKYROVR  | 
|_colorado_|

p.s.  	Q: Why don't the British make computers?
	A:  because they cannot figure out how to make them leak oil.... :-) 

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From: PAULGREG@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Subject: Downeast gala
Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 95 10:49:33 EDT

HlDixon@aol.com asked if any netters will be at Owl's
Head this Sunday.
Look for me in my green 88" with a blue pick-up cab. I'm
coming fully equipped with a bevy of babes and beers!

cheers!
--Paul

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:22:34 +0000
From: gwilcox@icis.on.ca (Gowyn Wilcox)
Subject: Newbie

        Hi everyone, just thought I'd introduce myself.  I'm me, and almost
all the that's just who I am...

        Five years ago I had to sell my '68 IIa.  Most sad day in life...
However, the gods must be smiling down on me (hopefully that's all) because
I found my dream  beast.  '66 IIa ex MoD.  Problem is it's not  ready yet,
but patience is a virtue so I hear.

        So anyway, I'll just hang back and watch the show and when she's
ready I'm bound to have more to say.

        See ya...

If man was meant to understand woman, it wouldn't be so much fun...

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:28:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: Downeast gala

> HlDixon@aol.com asked if any netters will be at Owl's
> Head this Sunday.
> Look for me in my green 88" with a blue pick-up cab. I'm
> coming fully equipped with a bevy of babes and beers!

	A bunch from OVLR should be there...

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From: Andrew Grafton <A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Diesel Engine
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:41:25 BST

> I heard mention of "advancing" the pump  to increase power ,how is
> this done, is it possible to rotate the pump body to optimise timing

You can adjust the pump timing as you say on a 2.25 but it has
more effect on the smoke output than the power...  If your 2.5
does nothing but put out a little black under load then it
seems pretty damn good timing-wise.  Correct timing usually
equates with maximum power.

I am *not sure* about the timing on a 2.5, tho'.  I thought the
process was different and involved timing cover removal.

The adjustment you may be thinking of is the pump's maximum fuel
delivery screw, which can be tweaked by an appropriate 
establishment to provide more power at the expense of your engine.

It is a really bad idea to tweak the screw yourself as if you
turn it too far, bits drop off inside.  Too far can be 
fractions of a turn.  Note it's a different screw to the 
throttle stop screw.

If you're convinced that it is short of power and not just being 
an underpowered LR engine then it may be worth removing the pump and
getting it properly set up or the fuel delivery increased.  This
will result in more black smoke, though.

The lift pump may not be providing enough fuel if the dist. pump 
is OK. 

I take it that the machine has always been too sluggish?  
Otherwise it might be the injectors...  A cheaper job.

Please note that I am just offering more information - I am 
not saying that it is any of the above things...

All the best,

Andy
A.J.Grafton@lut.ac.uk

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:32:32 EST
From: lenagham@bachman.com
Subject: Re[2]: K&N Filters 

     Perhaps the final word on K&N air filters.
     
     The K&N filter that fits EFI Range Rovers is part number E2350
     it is listed for Fiat X-19 1500cc FI  79-82 and Strada 1500cc FI 79-81
     so it is probably not one that would be in stock at most parts stores!
     
     I paid $36.95 about 2 years ago and had to special order it.
     
     The recharger/filter care kit from K&N is part number 99-5000 and 
     costs around $15.
     
     Mike Lenaghan
     87 RR

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From: kessels.bill=40ott01=40c14a#%forwarder@ey.geis.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 16:10:00 UTC
Subject: Re: OVLR Birthday Party

(LAN Addressees) LRO submissions
 
My most vivid memory is Friday night, after having a number of beers, hearing
a rumble in the distance.  All activity stopped as the rumble approached, and
the 101's appeared out of the blackness---not one, but two, driving straight
through the field into the centre of the group of us!!  Dogs were howling,
people cheering---by all accounts this was a religious experience.
 
Bill Kessels
94 D90 (slightly scratched)
kesselsb@ey.geis.com

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Date: 27 Jun 95 12:35:10 EDT
From: Randy Parker <75300.2654@compuserve.com>
Subject: LR & Terrorists

Land Rover  - the first choice, no matter what your occupation!

Excerpted from a wire service article on the Mubarak attempted assassination:

   Inside the slain men's blue Land Rover, police found two hand grenades and
about $2,700 in U.S. and Ethiopian currency. In the trunk of a vehicle used by
the wounded attacker, police found explosives and blasting caps, the Ethiopian
Interior Ministry said.

-- Randy Parker <rparker@tiac.net>

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Good bye, and thanks for all the fish!!!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT)

>>>>> Craig Murray writes:

> Hi, or should that be goodbye all,

>         I have just been informed that I am now redundant.  So this is 
> the last post I will be making for a while (But not too long I hope!!)  
> It has been great knowing you all.

> Good bye!!!!!!!!!

Hey, They can't do that, can they?  It's not right, or nice, or... or... 
or... sputter sputter...  Oh damn.

Hurry back, Craig.

Walter Swain      1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol
Davis, CA

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From: rmodica@east.pima.edu
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:08:56 MST
Subject: David's clutch

David;
Can't believe you don't know about our own Arizona LR parts supplier 
located
right here in Tucson.  Rovers West is reliable, reasonably priced, cheap 
to
ship (only 120 miles).  Call them!  Rovers West, 4060 E. Michigan, 
Tucson, AZ
748-8115.  Ask for Pat Teske and tell him Rob Modica refered you.

Your clutch replacement sounds familiar.  I did mine one time on an 88" 
also
totally solo.  All series LR have abrace welded under the tranny and the 
only
way out is up.  I also removed the fenders so I could reach around the 
firewall
and get at the bell housing and clutch.  Did the whole job (with the aid 
of a
cherry picker) by myself.  The only problem came trying to get the spline 
for
the trannt aligned with the clutch plate.  At the time I didn't know about
clutch alignment tools but it slid in after a few tries.  Just make sure 
you
read your manual and take your time.  When you replace the seatbox and
floorboards its a good time to do some sound proofing and waterproofing.  
The
recent thread about using 3/8" closed cell sleeping pad foam is a good 
idea.
Silicone on the floorboard seams is also a good one.  Have fun.

Rob Modica      '51 SI 80"   '60 109" Safari    '94 Disco

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 14:07:33 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Britsh Car day

          This being the first time I've seen this many
          Rovers in one place. I was definitely had a good
          time, especially witnessing Quintin's (last name?)
          little run-in with a certain angry chap who
          felt the need to be"in charge". I guess he'll
          miss having that authority since that was the last
          BCD. Sandy and Quintin thanks for giving me
          the lowdown and taking the time to B.S. with
          us. Robert Davis' Merc was there, sorry I
          didn't say "Hey", but you looked sort of busy
          going over the Dormobile.
           I'm still looking for an 88", and I'm
          considering buying from the UK. Has anybody
          any suggestions, I've tried calling
          "Land-Rover Center", and "Crook Bros." has anyone
          dealt with either?
          Or save me the trouble and tell me you've got one
          here......
          David Bobeck
          dbobeck@ushmm.org
          89 civic(rice)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:08:16 -0700
From: johnliu@earthlink.net (John Y. Liu)
Subject: My 109 Is For Sale -- Again -- Sigh...

Well, the buyer for my 109" became so flakey and unreliable that I cancelled
the sale.  So my beautiful, clean, straight, stock, limestone Sr. IIA 109"
is -- once again -- for sale.  If anyone knows of someone looking for a very
nice 109" three-door for $10,500, please let me know.  

Incidentally, the buyer had the truck inspected in detail by a Rover
mechanic, including compression testing, visual examination, and drive
testing, and it got a perfect bill of health with the exception of worn
swivel bushes.  I will be having those bushes renewed shortly.
John Y. Liu
johnliu@earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:40:56 -0700
From: johnliu@earthlink.net (John Y. Liu)
Subject: Fuel Injection For Series Land Rover?

I recently did some looking into the aftermarket fuel injection units sold
by Holley under the name "Projection".  These are throttle body, computer
controlled, fuel injection units with a closed loop (oxygen sensor) option.
The idle, mixture, etc. can be controlled from the cab.  They are not street
legal in California, but on an early 60's truck that wouldn't matter much.
The Holley line includes a single-barrel unit intended for Jeeps.  I don't
have the exact cost but I think it is in the $250-300 range.  Has anyone
ever looked into fitting one of these, or any fuel injection, to a Series
rover?  I'm curious about the possible advantages in gas mileage, cold and
hot starting, high-altitude operation, emissions, and driveability.  Not
that a Series rover is deficient in any of these areas, mind you, nor would
I ever suggest such, but . . . given the cost of a Solex carburator nowadays
. . .
John Y. Liu
johnliu@earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 20:04 MST
From: jhoward@argus.lowell.edu (James D. Howard II)
Subject: Discovery TDi spotted in Arizona

Driving home from work today, in Flagstaff, I saw a Range Rover SE and
a Discovery parked next to each other outside one of those chain
restaurants (Ruby Lews on S. Milton, for those of you familiar with
Flagstaff).  It looked awfully suspiscious, so I parked next to them.
Closer inspection of the Disco revealed it was a right hand drive TDi.
They both had two way radios, and huge plaques on the dashboard which
said "Absolutely No Smoking".  The lug nuts on the RR had yellow lines
that lined up with yellow lines on the wheels.  

I noticed a man and woman standing by the door to the restaurant
smoking cigarettes (all of Flag's restaurants are no smoking).  A
third man joined them and they all went to the Rovers.  They were not
very friendly.  The woman said the Disco belonged to her rich
boyfriend, then hopped in before I could respond.  The two men got in
the RR.  They filled out their log books and left.

At first I thought they did not recognize my Series III as a Solihull
product.  The woman had an American accent, but I never heard the men
speak.  Then I thought they did not want to talk about a vehicle that
is not currently impported into the USA (the Disco TDi).  Or maybe
they were just tired.  Anyway, they were not very friendly.

James

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Discovery TDi spotted in Arizona
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 21:17:00 -0700 (PDT)

>>>>> James D. Howard II writes:

> Driving home from work today, in Flagstaff, I saw a Range Rover SE and
> a Discovery parked next to each other outside one of those chain
> restaurants (Ruby Lews on S. Milton, for those of you familiar with
> Flagstaff).  It looked awfully suspiscious, so I parked next to them.
> Closer inspection of the Disco revealed it was a right hand drive TDi.

So did the they have Arizona plates?  Manufacturers Tags, or what?  I 
recall reading that LR does testing in the the Arid-zona desert as well 
as the Canadian Arctic-eh.  Maybe you stumbled on one of their test 
vehicles, which might explain the reception you got.

Walter Swain      1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol
Davis, CA

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:23:47 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: SIIA Petrol to Diesel Conversion (fantasy??)

Guess I don't have enough to occupy my mind of late.  I'm wondering 
about the feasibility of installing a diesel conversion into a petrol 
1965 SIIA and would appreciate any comments on this flight of fantasy.

For commentators in the US, particularly California: is this even legal? 
 I've not checked yet with DMV but strongly suspect it is not.  (Oh 
well, so much for thinking!)

Assuming such an undertaking is legal, and ignoring the debates on the 
merits of diesel vs. petrol/gas, is it physically possible to put a 
diesel unit other than the LR 2.25 diesel into a SIIA without major 
modifications?  (Iveco 2.5l? GM? Nissan? LR TDi's?)  The ideal would be 
a conversion akin to the Chevy Mariner/Iron Duke; no cutting or real 
fabrication work.  I imagine too much cutting and radiator repositioning 
would be involved for the larger blocks.

Finally if such a conversion is possible who deals in the conversion 
parts required?  I've seen a few listings in LRO Int. but would be 
interested in anyone's experience or comments.

Does anyone have any experience with such?

Cheers

Jeremy Bartlett

'94 D90
'65 SIIA 109

P.S. This isn't too tayloresque is it?

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