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1 Pete Young [pyoung@srd.b37BT numbering changes in full
2 Mark Perry [rxq281@freen14steering relay
3 Sekerere@aol.com 7Re: The Land Rover Owner Dail...
4 kleihors@prl.philips.nl 29Mark wants to oil the steering relay
5 Sekerere@aol.com 12Truncated mail
6 "Kerner, Robert" [FORK0@25Rancho Shocks
7 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE17 Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
8 Rick Snyder [snyderr@hpa46Tires for Sand? (2nd try)
9 Bill Caloccia [caloccia@7Abbreviated digest on the 13th...
10 gpool@pacific.pacific.ne34Chance encounter
11 "Guzelis.Pete" [guzelis.29RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
12 maainc@world.std.com (Mi25Available for Immediate Sale - 1990 RANGE ROVER "COUNTY"
13 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D18Leaky Needle Valve
14 "Paul Nash [paul@frcs.al13[not specified]
15 "Paul Nash [paul@frcs.al26[not specified]
16 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn25LR Miniatures


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From: Pete Young <pyoung@srd.bt.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:09:20 BST
Subject: BT numbering changes in full

Bill Caloccia is correct to say that geographic area codes will have a `1' 
prepended after April 16th (in fact the new codes work now).

However a number of codes will not change. I'll list them for completeness.
These include Freefone numbers, reduced rate services, special rate 
services, mobile services, Hutchison paging, BT Phonebase, emergency 
numbers and all operator services. The full list of codes which will 
not change is below:

Freefone services 0500, 0800

Reduced rate services 0345, 0645

Special rate services 0321, 0331, 0336, 0447, 0541, 0632, 0640, 0660, 
0696, 0774, 08364, 0839, 0881, 0891, 0894, 0897, 0898, 0930, 0990

Mobile services 0370, 0374, 0378, 0385, 0585, 0589, 0802, 0831, 0836, 
0850, 0860, 0956, 0958, 0973, 0976, 0979

Hutchison paging 0941 (other paging numbers will change, including 
BT`s Voicebank)

BT Phonebase 0910

Emergency numbers 999, 112

Before anyone says it, this is not BT's fault! It was instigated by Oftel.

Regards

Pete

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:50:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Perry <rxq281@freenet.mb.ca>
Subject: steering relay

Thanks to Daryl and David for confirming my suspicions topping up the oil 
in the steering relay. I'll head out tomorrow with my little flexi-spout 
oil can, find a wrench that fits, and see just how maddening it can be.

Regrds, 

Mark Perry              '66 Ser.IIA 88" Hardtop
Winnipeg, Manitoba       "If it isn't leaking,
Canada   R3J 2G3          it's probably out of something."

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:57:02 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Dail...

get lro-digest April 12, 1995

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From: kleihors@prl.philips.nl
Subject: Mark wants to oil the steering relay
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:56:56 METDST

Hi Mark,

I faced the same problem a couple of weeks back, asked this list almost
the same question and succeeded!
Fortunately I was welding the radiator support back then and was also 
renovating the tierods. With the radiator and support and both 
ball joints removed it was very simple. But you could succeed whit these 
items fitted. 

My workshop manuals told me to remove the left and right "seal retainer screws".
One of the lower screws can be used for emptying. I remember having problems
finding a fitting spanner. Anyway, they should be relatively loose. Don't
loose them. Fill one of the holes with oil with the nozzle of the can as 
deep as possible. You'll notice that within a couple of hours the level has
dropped and you can refill. It took me a number of days. 
Before the procedure, the relay was almost seized, I could turn it by the arms
except by hitting moderately. After the procedure the relay can be turned 
by hand but still has a firm feel. There are some specs for firmness. 

Good luck, and maintenance is better than replacement!

    Richard P. Kleihorst,	|  '63 109" SWG  (almost,almost ready)
    The Netherlands.		|  '60  88" PU   (dismantled)

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:57:04 -0400
Subject: Truncated mail

Is there some problem sending lro-digest as I have only been getting maybe
one part out of two or three the last few days? 

Cheers 

Chris

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From: "Kerner, Robert" <FORK0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu>
Subject: Rancho Shocks
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 08:45:00 PDT

Someone was asking about part numbers for Rancho Shocks.  I got this out of 
a Rancho Catalog
These are the RS5000's
     Front          Rear
88   5163      7169(this is the rs7000)
109  5164      NONE
109(1ton) 5164      5157
90   5159      5157

For the steering stablizer complete kit  97435

I havn't used any of these but I am considering it to replace my worn 
original shocks.

 -Rob
Home of the 1995 NCAA Basketball Champion UCLA Bruins
fork0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu

       

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Wed, 13 Apr 1995 11:20:52 GMT -0600
Subject:       Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

What happened to the 13th digest? There was the heading for mirrors & 
beds then the end of digest stuff, even though there was more in the 
index. Did it get cut off by majordomo or here on my end?

Tom Rowe
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Center for Dairy Research
1605 Linden Dr., Madison, WI 53706
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578
Home:608-243-8660
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu

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From: Rick Snyder <snyderr@hpanvs.an.hp.com>
Subject: Tires for Sand? (2nd try)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 13:42:49 EDT

* I don't think my first posting of the following message made it into
* the Digest, so here goes again.  It did make it out to those who 
* receive postings directly, so please ignore if you are one of those
* (of course if you are, then you are used to being innundated with
* email!).  My apologies if this is a redundant posting.

First off, let me intro myself to the list.  I'm Rick Snyder 
from Chester, New Hampshire.  I first learned to drive in a Series II
on Nauset Beach (Cape Cod, MA), bought a 1971 Series IIA in 1973 which
I still own,  but my main means of transportation now is a '91 Range
Rover with 60K miles on it.  The Range Rover gets most of its tougher
use out on the soft-sand trails on Cape Cod.  I run it through the sand
on the standard 205 Michelin tires at a pressure of 11 - 14 lbs with
pretty good results but I believe it would run better with wider tires.
Has anybody on the list had any experience with tires wider than 205
on the Range Rover??  I'm told by dealers that wider tires have clearance
probelms - I've removed the front spoiler/drip collector long ago so
that wouldn't be a problem.  Ideally, I'd like to put 235's on the 
vehicle to at least pass the minimum standard tire size established by
the Fed's who regulate many of the trails on the Cape (a local dealer,
Foriegn Motors West, worked out a special deal with the Fed's to allow
205's on Range Rovers that I fear won't last forever).  Not that I 
don't appreciate what a good tire the 205 Michelin is - it's just that 
this sand is SOFT and DEEP.  

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                                        ========== _/ ================
Rick Snyder                             =======   _/            ======
snyderr@hpanvs.an.hp.com                =====    _/               ====
Imaging Systems Division                ====    _/_/_/   _/_/_/    ===
Hewlett-Packard Company                 ===    _/   _/  _/    _/   ===
3000 Minuteman Road                     ===   _/   _/  _/_/_/_/   ====
Andover, MA 01810                       ====          _/         =====
(508)659-2309,   FAX: (508)687-7265     ======       _/        =======
                                        =========== _/ ===============

P.S.  I won't say whether of not I'm from LRNA, or whether or not
      I am in K1-K12  -  my interest is squarely with Rovers and their
      use!

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:06:28 +0100
From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@uk.stratus.com>
Subject: Abbreviated digest on the 13th...

one of the scripts hurled because somebody didn't use any carriage returns
in their 150 word 800 character line...

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 11:50:02 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.pacific.net (Granville B. Pool)
Subject: Chance encounter

All,

I was just down at Longs Drugs in Ukiah, where I live, to check out some
cameras for my office.  There I chanced to run into a fellow that I had not
seen for about four or so years.  His name it Ed Schmidt (dba Ed Valdez) and
he has Ed's Cycle Shop in Ukiah.  Bennett and I used to get his help when we
were riding dirt bikes together.  Ed owned the shop but also had his brother
Maurice there to "help" him.  Unfortunately, Maurice was not the kind of
help that a business man really needs.  Maurice is a nice fellow, a bonafide
character, and someone who loves Land-Rovers (so does Ed but not quite as
passionately as Maurice).  But Maurice was a bit loose with loaning tools,
shop facilities, and credit.  Durn near sunk Ed.  Ed had his shop closed for
about four years (but still paying rent) and is now open again.

Ed and Maurice are from Guatamala, from a very large family.  In Guatamala,
they had Land-Rovers.  Maurice is back in Guatamala now and found himself a
1956 Land-Rover that only had 12,000 miles on it and had been kept inside,
on jackstands for years.  Picked it up for $2,300.  Ed says he'll have him
send me photos of it.  Ed says that when he gets his bills caught up, he
will be interested in finding himself a Land-Rover.  Maybe he'll want to
come with us on some of Joe Lucas' Alta Cali outings.

And, would you believe, Ed says Maurice has a computer and is on the
Internet.  So I gave him my e-mail address.  I said to have him send me a
message and then I'd send him instructions on how to get on the LRO list.

Funny little world we live in.

Granville

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Date: 13 Apr 1995 12:43:19 U
From: "Guzelis.Pete" <guzelis.pete@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
Subject: RE: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

As a new member of the LRO, I want to say that this "link" is very beneficial
to a new subscriber. I am one of those lucky "Yanks" that purchased a new "94
Disco last summer. I know that this car may not qualify as the best, most
rugged of the L/R's but let me say that this car has done everything I have
asked it to do. Since I bought it, my significant other and I have been to
Sedona, Arizona; Yosemite and the latest trip was a long run down the entire
Baja California peninsula to Cabo San Lucas. Crossed over the Sea of Cortez and
went to the Copper Canyon on mainland Mexico. A good break-in to say the least.
Now am planning a trip to the 4-corners area of the Southwest in a few weeks.
Plans made to stop at Canyon De Chelly, Monument Valley, Canyonlands Nat'l Park
and then over to Santa Fe, New Mexico. The only reservation I have for this
upcoming trip is the lack of an electric winch. To my knowledge, L/R has not
made a front brush guard to which a winch can be affixed that will still afford
use of the air bags. Can't over-ride this feature as it will void the warranty.
Is there anyone on the Web that knows if a winch "system", compatible with air
bags can be installed on the Disco. Sure appreciate any feed-back.My Internet
address is guzelis.pete@mdc.com. I'm from the Huntington Beach, Ca. area. 
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: Land-Rover-Owner@uk.stratus.com on Thu, Apr 13, 1995 11:41 AM
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
File(s): The Land Rover Owner Daily Dige

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:29:26 -0400
From: maainc@world.std.com (Michael Anthony)
Subject: Available for Immediate Sale - 1990 RANGE ROVER "COUNTY"

Extended transferrible 100,000 Warranty, New tires and 
recently installed exhaust system, Brush Bar, Running Boards,
Light Gurads Front & Rear, Alarm System w/ Remote Start, New
Hella Driving Lights, Cargo Liner, CD Player, SunRoof and all 
the standard "Goodies" all in working order.  Attention: NON-
Smokers: the Ash tray has never seen a "Butt" and no one has 
ever light up in the vehicle.  70,000 original highway miles.
Embarrassed to say, the vehicle was use off road only twice, if
you count driving on a sand beach!  Color is Dark Grey with Grey
Leather Interior!  Will sell for $17,500 to the first person with
a bank check in hand and include a Professional Detail as a drive
-a-way Bonus!  Have a new 4.0 SE Range Rover for immediate delivery
and would prefer to pass the value to someone who appreciates and
can benefit, rather than Trade-In Vehicle.  
SERIOUS INQUIRIES PLEASE CONTACT:
		Michael Gaetano
		maainc@world.std.com
		phone: 617-237-4950(Office)
		       508-358-7619(Home)
		FAX:   617-237-6811

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Leaky Needle Valve
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:32:00 DST

(Chris Stevens wrote)
Subject: Re: Erratic Idling Success, Maybe (fwd)

   >    New needle and seat just didn't seal right. After I in-
   >     stalled the old one the carb quick siphoning gas and leaking
   >     through the throttle spindle.

Was the new needle a gen. part or was it from Bearmach ? See my earlier 
comment on their rebuild kits and why they use the abreviation B.M. on their 
boxes.

Trevor Easton

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Subject: Re: steering relay, inter alia
From: "Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>"@tantrum.frcs.alt.za
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:10:56 +1000

> little oil can with a flexible nozzle, how do I get the Hypoy C into the
> dang relay? What am I missing here? 

My trick was to use a small-ish hypodermic with a large-guage needle.
My wife's a vetereinarian, so it's never been a problem getting them.
It makes it far easier to get the oil _into_ the relay, rather than
all over the top.  However, it still takes a long time, so wait for
a sunny day, and squirt in a bit at a time, at 5 minute intervals.

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Subject: Re: 110 manuals
From: "Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>"@tantrum.frcs.alt.za
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:45:29 +1000

> Could you send me their [Autobooks] tel/fax number please. 

I'm afraid I don't have it -- you'll have to try Telkom or "Car"
magazine -- I think that they advertise there.  They're well
worth a visit if you can manage a trip to Joburg -- they've got
lots of good L/R books, plus general 4x4 stuff.

> Cape Town can supply the Haynes manual. Which one is better?

I didn't know that Haynes did a 110 manual (I've only seen the
sII/sIII manuals).  It never hurts to have both (I had Haynes,
Brooklands and L/R manuals for my sIII, and never regretted it).
However, Haynes tend to cater more for the DIY maintenance people,
while the factory manual is more complete but less readable --
they assume that you're taking _everything_ out.

> Two South Africans chatting ...

Yup.  Almost as strange as all those Americans talking to each other
via England -- at least I'[ve got the excuse of being a (temporary)
ex-patriate!

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:06:37 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: LR Miniatures

Whilst shopping for antique Donald Duck stuff for the girlfriend near 
Disneyland this week, I came across some miniature Land Rovers.  One was a 
Corgi 107" pickup, much like the older breakdown truck I have, but with 
different wheels.  The second was a Corgi Junior, and was closer to 1/43.  
This was also a pickup, either a sI or II (not sure without looking at it 
again.)  The last was one of the original Lesney Matchbox #12's, like the 
repro's Matchbox recently came out with.  It's missing the wee man and has 
no box, but for only $1.95, I'm not going to complain!  The dealer 
obviously didn't know what it was; it was even marked as a "V.W."  The 
other two were good deals also at $2.95 & $3.00.  

I have some plastic topless 88's to trade for ones I don't have, as well as 
a couple of ERTL police 110's.  

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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