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From: Tom Stevenson <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Defender 90 differences
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:58:58 +0100 (BST)

I read Granville's thoughts on the new 90's with interest. Even the
300 Tdi's have the engine moved forward; I had heard that this is
because the new gearbox is longer and because the bellhousing had been
changed. A 1995 Tdi 90 passed me doing about 70 mph up the Rest-and-be-
Thankful on the way up to Oban last week; if he can cope with that road
at such a speed then I doubt the engine move has a serious effect on
handling, on-road anyway.

The other bit of interest was the comment that the fuel tank is at the
back rather than the side on the USA version 90. Could this new tank be
adapted for use as an auxilliary tank on an old 90 (mine, specifically)
in order to increase its measly 12 gallon capacity?  
-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(01475) 530581  Fax:(01475) 530601

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Date: 11 Apr 95 05:55:16 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: younger subscribers ???

>  I wouldn't make a fuss over it, but I have noticed that we have at least
> one subscriber with what appears to be a k-12 (grade school/secondary school)

So what? I first drove a Land Rover at the age of 14, and if I'd have had a
computer and access to a LR list in those days I certainly would've lurked.
But then those were the early sixties, and a computer with the power of a
floppy-based 128K 4 Mhz 8080 would've cost you, what, *several billion
Dollars* ?? Ok, now you know what an old fart I am...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: "GAWIE VAN BLERK" <A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za>
Date:          Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:15:16 GMT+200
Subject:       LR110 V8 timing

Hi all

I have been looking at this mailgroup for about a week now and it 
seems like there are a good many very knowledgable LR owners around.

First things first, let me introduce myself. My name is Gawie and I 
am working as a Telecomms Engineer for ESKOM, the South African 
Electricity Supply Company. Lots of 4x4 in work time. Lucky me.
I have just recently aquired a 1990 model 110 Hardtop with about 90 
000 km on the clock. Put up a good 6000 more in the first month and 
realy love it.

Now for my question. Can anybody please help me with some 
instructions as to setting the timing etc. on this beast.The 100 000 
service is coming up and I would realy like to do it myself. Not so 
much to save money, but rather more to familiarise myself with the 
engine and it workings. I have got the owners manual, but it does not 
say much about setting the timing etc. Could not find a Haynes manual 
anywhere around. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you and happy Rovering.
Gawie van Blerk
Internet : A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za (work)
         : gawie@pixie.co.za (home)
Tel      : 27 51 404 2421

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From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:33:45 +0100
Subject: Re: LR110 V8 timing

Welcome Gawie van Blerk,

>Now for my question
>instructions as to setting the timing etc. on this beas
>LR110 V8

What distributor model number do you have?  If you have both advance
and retard connected then the first guess has to be 6 deg ATDC.  (not
BTDC).

It would also help to know what CR the engine is and what carbs you
have.  I've never seen a 110V8 so I wouldn't know how it differs from
my RR V8, I presume you're not FI.

Best Regards,
Steve.

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 06:48:57 -0400
Subject: military convoy light

where was the convoy light located on a IIA military rover?

thanks
Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                               Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA                                   508-521-4093
===--===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--===
                     1969 IIA SWB - The Wayback Machine
           Now with most of the Federally requred electrics!

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 06:48:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Movie sighting, volt meters, RR diffs

Tom, 
could that be the1975 film `Killer Force'.  
with peter fonda, i think it had telly savalas as well 

Rgds...
Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                               Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA                                   508-521-4093
===--===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--===
                     1969 IIA SWB - The Wayback Machine
           Now with most of the Federally requred electrics!

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From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:07:26 +0100
Subject: Re: military convoy light

Spenny@aol.com <Spenny@aol.com> asks:

>where was the convoy light located on a IIA military rover?

It shone on the rear diff casing, which was painted white.

Best Regards,
Steve.

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:15:19 -0500
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Re: Erratic Idling Success, Maybe (fwd)

>Sure you had it in correctly (and not upside down)?  Did you replace
>the new seat (the screw above) and the new needle together? Also
>just "upstream" of the needle seat is a great place for gunk to
>accumulate....did you clean it all out as best you could?  If the old
>one don't leak.....don't fix it, though.

        New needle and seat just didn't seal right. After I in-
        stalled the old one the carb quick siphoning gas and leaking
        through the throttle spindle.

>leaky diaphram in your fuel pump?

        Will check this but fuel seems to be getting to carb on restart.
        As I mentioned, if I try an immediate restart the Rover fires
        right up. If I wait between five minutes and a couple of hours
        it takes several seconds of cranking.

Chris Stevens                           1969 SIIA 88" SW
BCG Corporate Communications
Towson, Maryland, USA
(410) 583-1722
(410) 583-1935 (FAX)
chrisste@Clark.net

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: CB recommendations?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 6:23:07 PDT

> Antenna mounts on a Defender? Kind of hard with a canvas top unless you can
> rig a mount to one of the roll-bar pieces. The alternative is something on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> antenna.. you'll want a spring loaded mount or at least one that can be
> swiveled out of the way.
I mount mine on the front roll cage. The threaded light mounts make
it easy.

Russ Burns
94 D-90   
91 R-Rover

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Silcones and Gasoline
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:09:00 DST

Jim dolan wrote: Has anyone tried sealing a leaky float with silicone or 
similar.
I had heard that silicone and gasoline were not compatible but discovered 
the truth of this by default. Having reconditioned my gas tank , also not 
replacing the fine screen on the suction tube, I used silicone gasket 
material on the gauge sender flange. Several weeks later, while at the Down 
East in 93, I suddenly stalled going into Camden. Several Rovers were soon 
on the scene with advice and assistance. The cause was fuel starvation 
created by this vile slimy snot like stuff in the lines. Its orange tint 
clued me in to the source, "Silicone Gasket Goo". A trip to Tom Howards shop 
(Thanks,Tom and others) to remove some more lumps and replace the strainer 
gauze and never a problem since. (Until I wrote this note of course. I 
wonder when she will stall now) . So keep that silicone away from gasoline. 
They don't mix. Additionally if using silicones on later units beware of the 
variety since regular acidic cure RTV can destroy Oxygen Sensors even from 
afar.

Trevor Easton, 1962 Series IIA SWB SW, Miss Golightly, 
teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca

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From: Pete Young <pyoung@srd.bt.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:33:45 BST
Subject: Serious Road Trip land rovers

Dear all,

Thought you might like to know that there are some splendid pictures
of the Serious Road Trip's Bedfords and Land Rovers at

http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~angus/SRT/Gallery/MaxReeves/Convoy.html

Serious Road Trip is a registered charity dedicated to brightening up
the lives of children in Bosnia, by shipping in clowns, jugglers and
entertainers as well as distributing aid.

Pete

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Date: 11 Apr 95 11:50:12 EDT
From: ritter mark c <70472.1130@compuserve.com>
Subject: Mechanical Hand Winches

Seem I've found a bit of a challenge here. I'm trying to find a US distributor
of Either Tirfor or Brano winches and nobody has yet replied to my inquiry. I've
had a couple of people write me to say that they too would be interested in
obtaining one if my search is eventually successful. Numerous phone calls to
tool suppliers and industrial outlets here in Atlanta have produced nothing
conclusive as yet, seems folks know what it is I'm speaking of they just don't
know who sells it. Once again if ANYBODY OUT THERE has any info on these devices
please let me know.

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:01 EDT
From: jhoward@atlas.usno.navy.mil (James D. Howard)
Subject: My first week with my new SIII

It was a fine Sunday when had a friend drive me the 130 miles to
Phoenix to pick up my Land Rover.  I was buying it from the original
owner, so I felt like I was taking away his firstborn.  He said I was,
but it was 23 years old now, so it was time for it to move out.  

I was able to test the brakes only three miles into my trip.  I was
behind a 280ZX, keeping a good 3-4 seconds behind.  We were driving
along Bell Road, where there was a sidewalk.  Two kids were playing
with a shopping cart on the sidewalk, when it suddenly tipped over,
depositing one of the kids in the street directly in front of the
Datsun.  We both slammed on our brakes.  The Datsun had to swerve
around the kid, and somehow ended up on the sidewalk.  The Land Rover
came to a quick, uneventful stop.  No pulls to either side.  No one
was hurt, and I gained confidence in the Land Rover's brakes.

It accelerated much quicker than I expected when I got onto the
Interstate.  I guess I was expecting it to go like my ex-girlfriend's
VW Bus.  I was also surprised at how well it steered at highway
speeds.  It had better directional stability than than either the Ford
Escort or the Toyota Corolla I had recently rented.  

On the road to Flagstaff, there is a long stretch where you climb from
3500 to 7000 feet in about 10 or 15 miles.  The Land Rover slowed to
about 45 mph for some of this, which is an annoying speed, because it
is faster than the 18 wheelers, but slower than the cars.  

Once we made it to Flagstaff, I noticed the lower air pressure meant
it idled at 400 rpm, and it sure runs smooth at 400 rpm.  I have since
adjusted the mixture and the idle for Flagstaff.  

I called the now previous owner, to ask him a couple of questions.
His wife answered, and asked how it ran, etc.  She then said she would
get Richard.

Wife: Hey, Rich, James is calling from Flagstaff to give you an update
on the Land Rover.

Richard: (in the background) mumble mumble mumble

Wife: No! You can't talk to the Land Rover!  Land Rovers can't talk!
So talk to James.

I work in the Coconino National Forest.  On my lunch hour the next
day, I drove out across Anderson Mesa.  Man!  That was fun!  It sure
does better than the pickup trucks I have driven.

I have bought $300 worth of parts that it needed immidiately.  There
are a number of other things it needs that are less urgent (new seat
cushions, new exhaust).  I hope to drive up to Montana this summer, so
an Overdrive would be nice.

I spent last night going through newsletters of the Rover Owners
Association.  These were dated from 1974 to 1977.  Lots and lots of
complaints about poor dealer service, and the fact that Land Rovers
leak too much oil, but also lots of stories about going where no 4x4
had been before.

If any of y'all are ever in Flagstaff, stop by and say "Hi!"

James

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 09:07:21 -0700
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: CB recommendations?

In message <199504111328.OAA03859@chunnel.uk.stratus.com> Russell Burns writes:
> > Antenna mounts on a Defender? Kind of hard with a canvas top unless you can
> > rig a mount to one of the roll-bar pieces. The alternative is something on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> Russ Burns
> 94 D-90   
> 91 R-Rover

The lower mounting bolts to the windscreen seems to be a very common mounting 
place for an antenna.  It requires no additional holes.  An inverted 'L' shaped 
beacket holds the antenna and secures to one of the hinge bolts.  People usually
route the cable through a scuttle (cowe) vent

My CB is a hand held unit.  When its in the Land Rover, I use a magnetic antenna
attached to the rim of my spare tyre on the bonnet.  This allows me to remove it
when I'm not using the radio.

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: Erratic Idling Success, Maybe (fwd)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:10:22 EDT

> >leaky diaphram in your fuel pump?
>         Will check this but fuel seems to be getting to carb on restart.
>         As I mentioned, if I try an immediate restart the Rover fires
>         right up. If I wait between five minutes and a couple of hours
>         it takes several seconds of cranking.

Well, I meant a PINHOLE leak, or perhaps it just isn't fit quite right.
The suggestion that you let it sit for a bit, then peek down the carb
and pump the gas is a good one that will tell you if this is the 
trouble without going to the hassle of disassembling your fuel pump.

Then again, this could be "normal", as "several seconds" is a relative
term.....does it go aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa-VaROOM or does it go aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,
aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa....-VaROOM? Typically, my Nige starts up after a few
cranks.  However, the ol' vapour lock (non-drinking kind) happens
quite often....usually NOT upon immediate restart, but after sitting for
a tad.  IF my vapour lock is really bad, and I've neither the time nor
the beer to enjoy it, I just pull the intake boot off the carb and he
starts right up.  You may want to try this next time....if it does
crank right up, then maybe you just should have had a beer (ie had
vapour lock).

rgds,
rd/nige

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From: "thomas r. coron" <tcoron@s850.mwc.edu>
Subject: Re: Cruise Control
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:11:53 EDT

 
> RE: Cruise control on RR
> I have a US spec '91 RR.  The cruise control doesn't seem to work.  The switch
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> p.s.  My cruise control on the '73 has only failed me once.  To fix it, I just
> had to bend the selector handle a slight bit... Hmm!
  
  Try checking the vacuum hose to the servo for leaks. Used to have
  this problem on my Audi. Pull the hose off and suck on it, and see if
  the vacuum holds. Do it both towards and away from the servo. If it 
  loses vacuum in either direction, chase it down. 

  This assumes that the servo is vacuum operated, etc.

Tom Coron         tcoron@s850.mwc.edu
King George,Va.   703-775-4575
'66' IIA 88 RHD

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Date:         Sun, 09 Apr 95 16:35:09 CDT
From: Mike Davis <MDAVIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Should I buy a '92 RR?

I haven't received any responses, so, I thought I'd repost.  Is this info
in an FAQ somewhere?  Would a 1990 RR with less mileage be a better choice?
----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I am considering the purchase of this vehicle with 100,000 miles for $20,000.
It has the front and rear brush guards and is white in color and very clean
overall.  I intend to get 3 yr. loan and expect to put approximately 18,000
miles per year on it.  Am I asking for trouble?  I have always done most of my
own service on prior vehicles, what can a reasonably competent owner/mechanic
expect?  Can I expect 200,000+ miles from it without major engine, transmission
differential worries?

 Thanks,
 Mike Davis - Seebeck Computer Center
 The University of Alabama
 MDAVIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU

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From: "John R. Benham" <BENHAM@WFOCLAN.USBM.GOV>
Date:          Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:58:29 +1100
Subject:       USA - Out West!

Dear LRO's,

    It's been a while since the last update - a delay primarily due 
to high cost of the remote phone bills.  However, we are back on line 
again.  I have infiltrated and acquired the Camel Trophy's 800#!

More Trip Log:

    We left Flagstaff, AZ in our Landie and drove onto the Navajo 
Indian Reservation to a spot known as `Grand Falls'.  Fairly poor 
roads gave us access to this remote site.  The falls were flowing 
from mud water of the Little Colorado River and had a stair-step drop 
of about 200 feet.  It gives out a mud spray, so close-up photography 
coats your camera with mud!  Definitely worth the side trip!

    Later that day, we dropped off of the Colorado Plateau and drove 
south to the mining ghost town of Cleator in the Bradshaw Mountains in 
Central Arizona.  This is where our base camp will be for the next 
ten days.  The roads in this area are extremely rough.  Low range 
four wheeling is our main travel mode now.  The sharp gneisses 
and schist do hell with our tires!

    We visit a lot of old abandoned mines - this area is rich in 
mining history and local folklore.  During the turn of the 
century, several narrow gauge railroads were built to join the 
larger mines and supply transport of the mined gold and silver ore to 
the mills.  These rail beds are now abandoned but serve as excellent 
and challenging 4x4 roads!

    The area is considered desert and is the Northern boundary 
of the Sonoran Desert flora.  Saguaro, Prickley Pear, Cholla, and 
Ocotilla cacti are abundant.  Many of these are starting to bloom 
along with the multicolored wildflowers.  A lot of photo ops here!  
Only one diamond back rattlesnake was seen out of many `unseen'!.

    Some beautiful spots to camp here include the confluence of 
Turkey and Poland Creeks and anywhere along Poland Creek.  There is a 
very rough 4x4 road which follows Poland Creek and has several 
portages over boulders.  This proved not compatible to our exhaust 
system!

    Poland Creek erodes the granite forming large and deep bowls 
perfect for skinny dipping!  We do our best to shock what 
few visitors who cross our paths!  Large Cottonwood trees 
give us the much needed shade from the desert sun.  At night, we set 
up the telescope to view deep sky objects.  The clear skies with no 
light polution from any cities offer superb viewing!

    We came across one `desert wacko' backpacker who I tried to give 
some food and water too, but he threatened me while muttering `It's 
God's will' and `You screwed up the environment', etc, etc.  Well, we 
tried!

To be continued...

John R. Benham
1968 88 IIA `Bwana Mobile'

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:04:53 -0500
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Re: Erratic Idling Success, Maybe (fwd)

We're talking aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa, aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,
aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa....-VaROOM...sputter, die....aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,
aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa, aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa,aWa....-VaROOM. The VaROOM
usually comes before the battery dies.

Chris Stevens                           1969 SIIA 88" SW
BCG Corporate Communications
Towson, Maryland, USA
(410) 583-1722
(410) 583-1935 (FAX)
chrisste@Clark.net

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:10:41 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: USA - Out West!

John R. Benham <BENHAM@WFOCLAN.USBM.GOV> writes:

>More Trip Log:
    We left Flagstaff, AZ in our Landie and drove onto the Navajo 
 Indian Reservation to a spot known as `Grand Falls'.  Fairly poor 
 roads gave us access to this remote site.  The falls were flowing
 ....[Much exciting adventure journalism deleted].....
 God's will' and `You screwed up the environment', etc, etc.  Well, we 
 tried!
 To be continued...

 Great dispatch, John!  I (we) love hearing adventure stories of Rovers
 in the Wild.  It's great to read about more than just mechanical woes,
 political correctness, and sightings.  This is what Rovers are born to
 live for.  Keep up the reports on the `Bwana Mobile' from USA-Out West!

-Michael
 cs@crl.com

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Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:11:17 EDT
From: "B. Willoughby" <BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Land-Rovers at the Movies

Tom Rowe described a film he had seen several years ago which contained some
footage of L-Rs running about a South African diamond mine.  Some of the
scenes and details he describes sound congruent with the film entitled "Gold",
a mid-'70's thriller set in a South African gold mine.  It stars Roger Moore
(who apparently was in-between Bond films) and Sir John Guilgud among various
other character actors.  At the beginning, Roger (the hero of the film and
a mining engineering) can be seen careening around in a limestone Series III
Station Wagon.  I'm not certain that this is the same movie, though it seems
somewhat close.

Other Land-Rover footage can be seen in "The Italian Job" with Michael Caine
Benny Hill and Noel Coward.  This is a great late-'60's adventure about a
bunch of Englishmen ripping off a shipment of Chinese gold in Italy.  They
make their escape in 3 Austin Mini Cooper Ss and use a Land-Rover to break
through a traffic jam.  Worth seeing just for the incredible stunt driving
done in the Coopers.

And how could we forget "Born Free"?  This 1966 classic features a blue 109"
Series II pickup with a full canvas tilt.  The sequel, "Living Free" makes
use of a Series IIA Station Wagon in Bronze Green.  Based on the books by
Joy Adamson, which, incidentally contain numerous references to her game warden
husband George's Land-Rovers.  Sadly, George was murdered by poachers while
driving a Series III 109" Station Wagon in real life.

Brian

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From: llevitt@idcresearch.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:40:45 EST
Subject: K12 and LRNA lurkers

          You people really crack me up. First you're turning over
          every rock and keyboard cos you *think* there might be some
          poor sod from LRNA snooping to find out what you have to say
          about 20 year old cars. Cripes, these guys have a business
          to run, and guess what, they're doing a pretty damn good
          job.

          Now Bill *warns* us that there's someone with a K12 address.
          Why? Who TF knows? Maybe he's afraid that there's a nine
          year old listening to us banter about Landies. Cripes, that
          will twist an as-yet unformed mind, won't it? Or maybe it's
          more sinister. Maybe teachers and school administrators are
          *snoops* for LRNA.

          So how many of you looked up the listserv commands to list
          all the people on the list? How many of you then fingered
          the poor person to see if he or she had done their homework?

          Someone drop me a note when you guys want to talk about
          trucks. Till then KBLU-1750 on the side. And out.

          Later,

          Lee Levitt
          llevitt@idcresearch.com

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 22:41:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: military convoy light

Spencer Asks..
 
> where was the convoy light located on a IIA military rover?

Didn't they have the rear diff painted white with a light shining on the
diff? 

Or was that on the 101???

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:48:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Erratic Idling Success, Maybe (fwd)

When I mentioned about looking into the carb after you let it sit I 
should also have asked you if when refitting the new carb, that is other 
than an original, did you perhaps remove the insulating 1/4" fibre spacer 
that goes under the carb?  I have found that if you don't leave it in, 
the heat from the manifold boils the gas out of the carb while sitting 
and when you go to start up there is no gas to start with.  In one case 
my Rochester carb cracked because the heat was too great for the base to 
stand.  I know that some fellows do away with this insulator because the 
studs are too short to put a Rochester or similar on the manifold.  It 
would make more sense to put longer studs on and leave the insulator in.  
Many Land Rover vapour lock problems are just over heating of the carb.  
Another no-no is discarding the heat shield that goes along the side of 
the manifold.  It keeps some of the heat off the carb and prevents the 
"locks".  Dave VE4PN

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Attn: Oily Wad Club members!!!
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:00:10 EST

Hello fellow OWC members,
                        I have been told that my 2.25  diesel blows smoke 
because it runs to cold!!!!!  The temperature gauge never seems to get 
above 140 F, and the vehicle does have a thormostat, the only time I 
remember it getting above that is when the water pump was not working, 
and then it only sat on 170-180 F except when going up really long hills!!

What is the running temperature of a 2.25 diesel???????

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       My car is constipated,
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       It has not passed a 
                                                |       thing all day!!

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From: Solihul@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 23:05:11 -0400
Subject: The Italian Job; errata, mea culpa

Well, it *was* late, and I was tired. The Italian job was set in Turin, not
Milan. Also noteworthy because it was Noel Coward's last film role. Cheers,
JCDillingham 

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From: Solihul@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 23:08:31 -0400
Subject: econo rovers

Robert Lawson makes a valid point about LR hopefully *not* introducing a
cheaper truck to just play on the name/reputation, 
but I for one would sure like to see a simpler Discovery:vinyl seats, rubber
on the floor, and, dare I wish it, tdi power? There *are* some of us who
would actually work the vehicles, like the rest
of the world. LRNA, are you listening? Surveyors, builders, engineers, for
example. BTW, NO we won't pay the same as the decked out ones with dual air,
&c. but I'm sure a suitable markup could be worked out. BTBTW, gilmer belts
on diesels is a STUPID
idea, I only wish there was a gearset kit for my diesel volvo. 
Cheers, John Dillingham

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 00:35:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: K12 and LRNA lurkers

On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 llevitt@idcresearch.com wrote:

>           You people really crack me up. First you're turning over
>           every rock and keyboard cos you *think* there might be some
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>           to run, and guess what, they're doing a pretty damn good
>           job.

	Matter of opinion, but by Yank standards they are doing pretty good
	seling a tarted up vehicle.  LRNA?  Who cares, that is for the 
	Yanks to worry about.  Its there Customs Department that wishes to
	enforce pre-1968 rules despite the fact that the pre-68 vehicles 
	are easily modified in whay to look like posy 1968 cars (only the 
	military versions are "trucks")

	LRCanada?  They wouldn't give us an uncooked hot dog if we were 
	starving.  That binch doesn;`'t give a shit about anything pre-1990, 
	nor is it their concern to do so.  They have their writ, we have 
	ours...  As through the 1970's, nothing has changed up here...

>           Now Bill *warns* us that there's someone with a K12 address.

	Time for them to grow up real fast.  Either that or its time they 
	created their own list or some of us create our own if PCdom is 
	to reign.  The day that no-CKD runs become impossible to discuss or
	plan...

>           Someone drop me a note when you guys want to talk about
>           trucks. Till then KBLU-1750 on the side. And out.

	Better to wait until the mail just stops...  That day a good portion
	of the list will evaporate...

	Rgds,

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From: "GAWIE VAN BLERK" <A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za>
Date:          Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:37:26 GMT+200
Subject:       Re: LR110 V8 timing, welcome and movies

Hi Dixon

> 	Can't help you with a Defender 90.  Only ever seen one.  The 
> 	Ottawa Valley Land Rovers club doesn't have a single one, being
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> 	the necessary information in them.  The factory manuals
> 	are invaluable.

Thanks for the welcoming words. I only have the manuals for a 
slightly newer LR. But I had a mechanic friend look at it last nigt 
and he said they are OK. He used to work on SII and III LR's for the 
police down here.

> 	PS.  If you have any club information, addresses, or additions
> 	     to the FAQ, please send them along.  The FAQ is very North
> 	     American oriented as that is all I had information on.
> 	being sold here from 1974 to 1992.  However, you should

The FAQ were the first thing I downloaded and I was a bit 
dissappointed not to read anything much about the Defender/One-ten 
series in there, Maybe we could get some info together and add it to 
the list. WRT clubs etc, I am planning to join one and will let know 
when we do. Not many peole in Africa are hhoked ti the Internet, but 
I think we can make a most valuable contribuion.

BTW did you know that there was a SI LR in amovie called "Daar doer 
in die Bosveld"  (Far away in the Bush) - 1948 I think - by Jamie Uys. He borrowed many 
scenes from this movie for his later hit called "The Gods must be 
crazy" - The clasic Land Rover movie I think. Can someone maybe 
forward the list of movies with LR to me. It happened before I joined 
this group.
Gawie van Blerk
Internet : A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za (work)
         : gawie@pixie.co.za (home)
Tel      : 27 51 404 2421

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From: "GAWIE VAN BLERK" <A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za>
Date:          Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:48:46 GMT+200
Subject:       Re: LR110 V8 timing

Good morning Steve

By doing my homework I have partly solved my problem. Maybe you can 
fill me in on some finer details. I have also manage to contact a 
neigbour who worked on SII/III LR in the police and seems confident 
he can (assist me to) do the job.

I do not have FI
The CR is 8.13:1 or 8.25:1 (2 books / 2 answers)
Electronic Ignition - Yes
Carbs - Twin S.U.

Manual says 6deg BTDC at 750rpm with vacuum pipe connected using 90 
min octane fuel.

Maybe we can go into more detail.

Our town is at 1400m asl (4600ft) and I will be taking it into the 
Maluti Mountains going a s high as 3200m asl (10 000ft) using 93 
octane fuel. On other occasions I will be driving around the Kalahari 
at 900m asl (3000ft) and even take it down to the coast.

Will 6deg be a good avg. Should I change it for going into the 
mountains or down to the coast. At the coast we can get 98 octane 
petrol.

Last question. Where do you suggest I look for the timing marks. Or 
maybe somebody can give us a Step by Step guide to setting the timing 
on a LR.

I am reposting this to the list as I think the answers could be of 
value to other novives like myself.
Gawie van Blerk
Internet : A48462@bfnnfs01.eskom.co.za (work)
         : gawie@pixie.co.za (home)
Tel      : 27 51 404 2421

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