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1 Vel Natarajan [nataraja@27Serial # Question - IIa design modifications
2 Vel Natarajan [nataraja@42Where should the headlights be for this model year?
3 William Caloccia [calocc12[not specified]
4 "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" [720Misc.
5 "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE38 Movie sighting, volt meters, RR diffs
6 justfred@netcom.com (Fre25Re: sIII parts
7 reischer@ridgefield.sdr.25Thank goodness for LRNA
8 "Steven Swiger (LIS)" [s18Re: younger subscribers ???
9 berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff 37Re: CB recommendations?
10 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus16Rolled Defender 90 (fwd)
11 rlarson@lsil.com (Rick L24So. S.F. Bay, CA, Area Body Shop Needed
12 Russell Burns [burns@cis11cb
13 "walter c. swain (wcswai22Re: younger subscribers ???
14 Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D25Wheels and Tyres


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From: Vel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Serial # Question - IIa design modifications
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:13:50 -0500 (CDT)

I went to look at a '66 109 3-door IIa yesterday.  

I noticed that the serial number was: 2511xxxxC

xxxx = (I forgot the rest.)

Which makes it a 62-71 109" Petrol Home RHD vehicle.

But what SPECIFICALLY does the "C" mean?  (Other than: "The suffix
letter indicates design modifications." - which I got from the
chassis faq).

Vel
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From: Vel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Where should the headlights be for this model year?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:27:19 -0500 (CDT)

I'm looking to bring back to the US a 109 SIIa.  I went to look
at a '66 (verified by seeing the log book).  But to bring it back,
I want to make sure it's not going to give the customs officials
any doubts.

It had headlights on the wings (fenders) with the marker lights
above and below to the outside.  It also had the traditional
IIa lights on the front face (grille).  The owner told me that
the wing headlights were original, but they had also kept the
cutouts for the grille lights and he had put them in.

I wanted to verify if this is correct.  Can anyone tell me for
sure if this is the case?

The grill was a SIII grill which was obviously cut up a little to fit.
If I decide to purchase the vehicle, I will definitely replace it with
a proper SII metal grille.  I'll also have to strip off all the camo
army paint.  The truck spent over a year in Bosnia where the owner was
doing some mercenary work (he was an ex British army captain) and
eventually aid work.  We spoke for a while and he showed me pictures
of his time out there as well.  He's done quite a bit of work on it
from welding patches to rear-crossmember supports to new brakes,
tires, exhaust, ignition electricals, etc.  The frame looked pretty
good as did the bulkhead/firewall and footwells.  He wants 1400
pounds, but I'd like to try for around 1100-1200 pounds.  What do
you think?

Vel
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Motorola Inc.                            Fax:    +44-793-430-987
European Cellular Infrastructure Group   Mobile: +49-171-854-6670
16 Euro Way,                             Email:
Blagrove, Swindon,                          nataraja@ecid.cig.mot.com
England, SN5 8YQ
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Subject: younger subscribers ???
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:20:20 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

Allright people,

  I wouldn't make a fuss over it, but I have noticed that we have at least
one subscriber with what appears to be a k-12 (grade school/secondary school)
e-mail address (statesside).  I can't tell you if it is a younger human or
not, but just thought I'd let you know.

 -B

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Date: 10 Apr 95 09:10:45 EDT
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Misc.

Just taken a break in the shopping to read the mail.
Micheal   re 109 cages
   Simeon Hill at Betaweld  UK  01302 842682 or 351264 makes a roll cage for
109's modeled on the US spec. 110 cage.  There was an article in the LR Owner
some time ago with accompanying photo's of the conversion to a customers
vehicle.
 
 J Cassidy-- RR diffs    It is not necessary to rebuild the crown and pinion
into a ser 2 housing, in fact this can be complicated because the later models
have different bearing sizes, just change the whole assembly, typical UK cost
100 pounds. The 3.54 ratio is too high for a ser 2, particularly with 7.50
tyres, try the 4.3 ratio.  With 6.00 tyres and no towing requirements the 3.54
is usable but still a little high.
  
 Regards    Bill  Leacock  Limey in Exile.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Sun, 10 Apr 1995 09:16:27 GMT -0600
Subject:       Movie sighting, volt meters, RR diffs

With all the movie talk lately I was supprised not to see one listed. 
Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it because I saw it many 
years ago. It might have stared Peter Fonda, but I'm not sure about 
that. Anyway the story is about a worker at a South African diamond 
mine planning a heist with some co-horts. They  all  
get killed except the leading man and woman. They make their 
escape in Land Rovers ( some good chase scenes through the desert). 
One of the thieves escaping with them, but in a different Land Rover, 
 gets shot and wrecks. As he stands up staggering he mutters "Good 
Land Rover, good ol' Land Rover", and then expires. What a man, even 
in death he didn't call it a jeep. I'll see if I can find the name of 
the movie if nobody reconizes it. It's actually a pretty good movie 
as I recall.

Hear hear to TerriAnn. Any time you want to get on a soap box about 
volt meters, I'll build the box for you. 

Range Rover diffs in a series:
The only reason I know of to do it is if you do a lot of highway 
driving and want to cut down on engine and tranny rpm's. As I recall 
they give about the same final ratio as an overdrive. I installed a 
set ( in addition to an overdrive) in an 88 I put a Perkins 4-203 in. 
The reason being low top rpm for the Perkins. The down side, of 
course, is that if you do a lot of off roading, your creeping ability is lessened.

Tom Rowe
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Center for Dairy Research
1605 Linden Dr., Madison, WI 53706
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578
Home:608-243-8660
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 06:52:23 -0800
From: justfred@netcom.com (Fred Heald)
Subject: Re: sIII parts

At 14:07 04/09/95, Michael Carradine wrote:
> Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com> wrote:
>>2.  Assuming you are, you say the trans is good, is that one of the parts
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> NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com
> Unimog WWW page at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/cs/cs/unimog.html

Sorry, I get confused...  If I could FIND a new one that would fit I guess
I'd buy it; Lawrence at British Pacific has been looking.  A new new one
would take too much work to fit to the existing motor (a Chevy 6).  I
guess.  But really you're right, Larry is just dragging his heels finding
me a new one or the parts to fix mine.  It'll probably cost that much to
have John rebuild the one I've got.  Hell, I don't know...

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ju/justfred/fred.html
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: reischer@ridgefield.sdr.slb.com (Andy Reischer)
Subject: Thank goodness for LRNA

There seems to be a lot of concern over LRNA. Let's face it. We have virtually
no impact on them. Those of us who have been driving LR products for years are
 probably not going to shell out 30 grand right away. Most people who buy a 
disco have no idea that it is related to my series 3. We are of no concern to 
LRNA as a corporation. The poor lurker on the system is probably just one of us.
Lets leave him alone and thank LRNA for importing the token defender. If I 
understand it correctly we can now upgrade or old series to our hearts content.
I checked with motor vehicles and with EPA. and newer engines,transmissions,...
are transplantable. We get the best of both worlds. Our old series can ride just
like a defender(maybe better) and we can keep our old cars. I`m quite attached
to mine. I've had it for 13 years and am not about to give it up now.

P.S. Dear lurker: could you convince  LRNA to import a few TDI's in ANY of the
 LR products. Until you do I can't upgrade my wife's LR to the TDI. oh and by
te way. though I probably won't/can't trade in my old landrover I have convinced
someone who was going to buy a explorer to get a disco instead(38 grand). so I 
guess we do have some value to LRNA in general.

Andy Reischer
owner legal upgraded land rover

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: younger subscribers ???

What exactly designates a "grade school/secondary school" e-mail address 
(I think you could tell us without giving it away.)  Just out of 
curiousity, because I have never run across one.
Thnx
steve

On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, William Caloccia wrote:

> Allright people,

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> not, but just thought I'd let you know.
>  -B

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:05:08 -0400
From: berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff Berg)
Subject: Re: CB recommendations?

I'm in the "one-hander" school myself.  I have an older (1982) Radio Shack
model mounted behind the heater outlet on the transmission tunnel at the
point it meets the firewall.  (See the RoverWEB page for a photo.)  I'll
confess, this is a less than ideal location if you have intentions of deep
wading and run the risk of what can now be known as "pulling a Graniville",
or perhaps more appropriately, "Pooling your vehicle"! ;-}  Anyhow, the
handset/controls easily stretch to the driver's seat and can be quickly
removed for security.  I also use a dash mounted 3&1/2" speaker to hear the
thing over the roar of the engine and clamor of the body.

I don't believe Radio Shack makes a one-hander anymore, at least the 1993
catalog in my office doesn't list one.  I have seen a Cobra model with this
feature advertised in recent Radio hobbyiest/scanner magazines though.  Try
a decent radio shop for other possibilities.

I can't say I optimized my antenna system.  I clamped an old K-2 (left over
from my GTi) onto the rear bumper using a Radio Shack gutter mount as the
base. I drilled new holes to match the bolt pattern of the rear "handle"
and put the antenna mount in between the "handle" and the bumper.  I got a
decent, but not ideal, SWR match.

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg              Interactive Telecommunications Program
 Technical Administrator                         New York University
                          berg@acf2.nyu.edu
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               My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
          My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
                       Taste for the good life.
                      I can see it no other way.
                           --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)
==                                                                 ==

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Rolled Defender 90 (fwd)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:25:56 EDT

> 1.  As I am getting a 109/110 hybrid from one as yet unnamed buisness here in
> the US, how can I get the US spec Defender 110 external cage?  Will it fit on a
> 109 body?  If not is there a way to get either an internal or external rollcage
> fitted to a 109?

THE EXTERNAL CAGE ON A 110 IS NOT-REPEAT NOT-A ROLL CAGE.  It is for
protection against limb dings, and the sort.  The internal roll bar is
a roll bar.

rd/nigel

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:07:08 PDT
From: rlarson@lsil.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: So.  S.F. Bay, CA, Area Body Shop Needed

Took my D90 sideways into a ditch/embankment while playing offroad yesterday.
Seems the "road" I was on had a stream running underneath it.  I broke through
a thin dirt crust into a thick mud soup. 2 hours of winching got me 100 ft.
upstream, and onto solid ground.  Contact with an embackment I slid into while
trying to get unstuck left a small dent and some deep scratches in my right
front fender.  Yea, next time I'll get on the winch sooner......   

I'd appreciate any Land Rover friendly body shop recommendations.
I live in Los Gatos, work in Milpitas, but would be willing to travel a bit for 
a highly recommended shop.

Thanks,

-Rick
'94 D90 

Richard Larson
LSI Logic Corporation
(408) 433-7149

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: cb
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 9:54:07 PDT

> In-Reply-To: <199504100406.FAA02243@chunnel.uk.stratus.com>; from "Jeremy Bartlett" at Apr 9, 95 9:04 pm
> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
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> > Jeremy Bartlett
> --MAA15931.797532521/transfer.stratus.com--

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "walter c. swain (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: younger subscribers ???

On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, William Caloccia wrote:

>   I wouldn't make a fuss over it, but I have noticed that we have at least
> one subscriber with what appears to be a k-12 (grade school/secondary school)
> e-mail address (statesside).  I can't tell you if it is a younger human or
> not, but just thought I'd let you know.

FWIW, I've gotten e-mail messages from several k12 addresses as part of my
work-related interaction with the public.  The public schools are getting
wired for the Internet at a pretty good clip, and we can expect to see
more interaction as time goes by.  The messages have come from both
students and teachers.  

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
               Walter C. Swain          |  wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us 
               Davis Community Network  |   
               Davis, California        |  1967 109 Series IIA Safari SW

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Wheels and Tyres
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:45:00 DST

Ditto to Hank's comment on Daytons. I have been running 215/85/16s for three 
years now. They work well in mud and great in snow. A direct comparison of 
Miss Golighty on Daytons to a 1994 Defender in Goodrich had the Defender 
pushing a wall of snow ahead then stopping when it became too high. Miss G 
just cut two grooves for the tyres and one for the differentials and kept 
right on through. Those BFGs look macho but are too wide for Canadian snow.

This weekend TARC held its first April Fools Errand an exploration of 
unimproved roads on the Niagara Peninsula. (For unimproved read "Seriously 
Degraded") Land Rover attendance was poor (2 Discoveries, 1 Series III. Plus 
2 Series IIA and a Lightweight from the organisers ) with a total of eleven 
participants. A good time was had by all who attended. LRO Howard Fisk from 
Missouri came with a rented Lincoln Town Car but couldn't be persuaded to 
participate in the off road sections. One of the best performers was a two 
wheel drive Nissan Pick Up which traversed all but the worst sections 
successfully, helped in no small part by the drivers "don't care" attitude 
to potential damage.  After all Nissan Pick Ups are two a penny.

Trevor Easton 1962 SWB 88"  teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca

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From: i.mitchell@ic.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 19:03:59 BST
Subject: Re: Mirrors



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