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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:40:35 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)

Found on rec.autos.4x4:
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hec2@coventry.ac.uk               HELEN ELIZABETH CLARKE at Coventry University

I spend quite afew weekends wathcing off road comps  around and about the
country side...the people there can understand the joys of tearing around
in a modified 88", dropping off the edge of sand banks and ploughing
through acres of mud in a series 2...however NO ONE here at Coventry
University semms to appreciate such fun!! I loved driving 20 year olod
Land Rover ..although the steering was peculiar to say the least..and am
really looking forwards to playing with our new baby... a land rover
with Range Rover chassis,coil sprung V6 engine etc etc....it is just
going through an mot at the moment and the wiring is very dodgy
but it will soon be ready for action!!!....anyway enough rambling someone
write to me!!!
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cfh@coventry.ac.uk                                 Chris at Coventry University

Anybody in the Range Rover Register - (Range Rover Club) then why not
email me

Thanks Chris
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 You guys... err, "persons" know each other?  Or, Pierre... ??

 Or, or, the Land Rover digest on the internet?  (Subscribe by sending
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 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.510-254-3324
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

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Date: 09 Apr 95 04:13:43 EDT
From: "Anthony J. Bonanno" <75034.3062@compuserve.com>
Subject: Copy of: Defender 90 Hardtop 

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

From:	Anthony J. Bonanno, 75034,3062
TO:	Land Rover Digest, INTERNET:lro@team.net
DATE:	4/6/95 10:44 PM

RE:	Copy of: Defender 90 Hardtop 

Hi Everyone,

I'm fairly new to this list and am a vintage LR enthusiast.  Haven't had much
experience with the newer machines.  However, thought some of you might be
interested in my experience with a Defender 90 today.   My old friend, Bob
Burns, who is the Southwest (USA) rep for LRNA came up to Santa Fe for a visit.
He brought his personal Defender and I drove it to lunch and around town this
afternoon.  I was very impressed as this particular Defender 90 is a full
aluminum hardtop version.  I had never seen anything but the softtop defender
90's here in Santa Fe.   As it turns out, this particular machine that Bob owns
is the original pre-production USA vehicle that you see in the promotional
brochures (has the softtop on) in the dark BR green.  Bob then was able to
obtain the UK hardtop with the hatch/tailgate rear end.  The top is the same
color as body.  The wheels are the standard steel, but also painted the same
color as the body.   I have to tell you, in my opinion, the same color hardtop
and wheels really made the machine look great - like it really means
business.... no pretty alloys here!  Bob has installed AirLocker diffs and
raised the suspension somewhat for extra clearance.

Anyway, having driven a Series IIA for 25 years, I just shrugged off the new
stuff as being too modern and lacking "real" Land Rover character.  I have to
admit, after seeing this machine and driving it today, I'm a believer.. It
really is a Land Rover and it still retains the character of the vintage
machines in its hardtop/painted wheels configuration.  Now, if I just had the
bucks to .... oh well, something to dream about for now... maybe one of these
days...

By the way, Bob tells me that this fall,  LRNA will be bringing the aluminum
hardtop 90 into the US,  except it will have the rear "door" instead of the
hatch/tailgate.  He said that there will be a few other minor changes also....
can't remember what they were though.    Guess that's all for now...

Cheers!

Tony Bonanno
Santa Fe, New Mexico

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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 95 11:22:41
From: Robert@organist.demon.co.uk (Robert G. Lawson)
Subject: Re: Into the D90 Pricing Discussion

 
> Something's been bugging me ...
> remember the "Good old days" when the Land Rover emblem meant something.  Put
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> come with the LR name.  And if you wanna see a mess, wait until all those
> "new" LR owners start dumping onto this list ("What's a 'winch???'").
 
Hang on...... Whats all this about an 'econo-Rover'?  We've not heard anything about this in the 
UK.  And carrying on, since Rover and LR have been taken over by BMW, then the Jag. argument 
from above applies as well.  Do you really think BMW will make LR build a cheap and tacky 4x4, 
when their name is associated with quality and a HIGH price - just like Jag.
 
-- 
Robert G. Lawson
'71 IIA, 2.25 Petrol Soft-top.

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:48:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. F. Yee" <travsboc@crl.com>
Subject: to D-90 or not to D-90

I could not agree with your post more, Dean!  Right on.

S.F.
future owner of an elitist's vehicle
(used '91-'92 RR?)

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:29:10 PDT
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Selectro locking hubs for asle

All, 

I have a new, still in box set of Selectro locking hubs, just been given to me 
as a present, I have the receipt. I already have a set of Warn locking hubs. 
Cost new $100, 
yours for $90. 

Mark

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:28:59 PDT
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Breaking that SIIA 88" Station Wagon

All, 

Just wanted to post this, as I have had several messages asking why I was 
breaking this vehicle. 

The thing is in good condition overall, however, the rear drivers qtr panel 
has been hit real bad, the rear crossmember is gone !!!, the springs, brakes 
all need replacement to make the thing stop properly, the interior is 
completely original, you guessed it, its ripped, torn and basically a mess, 
the bulkhead footwells are rotten but the top is good.

On the plus side, the safari top is good, which is what I wanted off it, the 
wheels have good new tyres, and it has original Warn locking hubs, the bonnet 
is deluxe wrap around type with intergrated wheel carrier, doors, wings are 
all good. It has a kodiak heater and the engine and box only have 50,000 or if 
you are non belivers, 150,000 !. 

For what I paid, the parts alone are worth it, if someone wants to buy it as 
is for restoration, be my guest. However, it stood with a plough on it for 3 
years and NO-ONE made an offer. So I bought it. 

 

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 09:53:29 -0700
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (john hess)
Subject: towing parts and borrow rover?

Hello fellow internet Land Rover addicts,

After being part of the events in the Mendocino Nat'l forest (described by
Granville Pool) I have decided that a couple recovery type rings should be
added to the dormobile.  I am aware of a kit that includes 2 rings and
bolts that mounts to the front bumper/chassis.  I have one of these kits on
back order with British Pacific  (pictured on page 28 of my 1994/95
catalog)  $24.50.

On the rear of the dormobile, I already have a tow plate (military frame);
I would like to get something to bolt to this for rear pulling.  The Rovers
North catalog has a picture of a tow jaw (page 55 of my 1994 catalog)  BUT
I'm unsure if this is the best solution for an attachment of a rope or
cable.  Vance Chin had quite the collection of heavy steel D-loops for
attachment between rovers and winches.  I don't know if his collection
would be compatible with the tow jaw.

Anyway, If anyone as these parts (or some thing better for the same
purpose) available used, let's make a deal.

Also, I remember Ben Newmans offer of a Land Rover loan to TeriAnn since
hers was (is???) at Scotty's being fixed.   Here's a chance for someone
else to go out on a limb.  I'm going to be in Ft. Lauderdale Florida for an
eyeball meeting from May 14-19.  If anyone would like to loan me a rover
(or even cheaply rent it to me)  I would be grateful.  I don't know where
we're staying but the meeting is going to be all under one roof at the
convention center;  I want a car to get out and play golf once or twice.

Happy rovering,

john f hess phd (wow, really?)
jfhess@ucdavis.edu
from home via modem
Land-
  -Rover, Sunbeam Tiger and Mazda owner!

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 13:54:15 -0400
Subject: Parts of IIA

To the person who was parting out the IIA - I am interested in some parts if
you can E-mail me at Sekerere@aol.com. Where are you by the way? I am in
Arizona.

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 13:54:15 -0400
Subject: 1971 Land Rover

In the Phoenix newspaper today is:

1971 88" SWB Land Rover -Red
Hardtop, with Half windows?
2.25l 4cyl engine-completely rebuilt
New Clutch
no rear seats
Currently registered here in Arizona
No rust on the chassis
No bondo or fiberglass repair spots, but Eric says that some of the body
sections need straightening as they have ripples in them.
He is asking $2850
Call Eric at (520) 639-2190 during the day

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:20:04 PDT
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Off-roading in N.H

To anyone in the New England area

We are planning a mud run / off roading either the last saturday of April, 
first Sat in May in the Sout West corner of NH. Will be a day trip, approx 5 
hours, bring lunch etc. 

Anyone interested in coming along ? E-mail me. We have three Land Rovers so 
far.  

Mark

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:57:49 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.pacific.net (Granville B. Pool)
Subject: LR Reputation and the Future

Dean J. Silliman, of Lake Arrowhead, CA said, regarding LR's quality
reputation and the planned "little" Land-Rover:

>[snip] Undoubtedly Rover will be trying to cash in on their reputation if
>they put out their little mobile.  However, they shouldn't forget that
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>little cheap 4WDs?? [snip]
>And no, I'm not the covert LR rep.  :-)

>From what I've read about the planned "little" Land-Rover SUV, over the
years [yes, this is something that's been in the oven (mostly the warming
oven, it seems) for quite some years, maybe 8-10], it does not necessarily
follow that it will diminish Land-Rover's reputation.  Recent press
indicates that this _car_ will have Defender Ninety axles and such under it
and so hardly a cheapy in the Suzuki Sidekick and Isuzu Amigo mold.
Consider that the SUV market is such a major market, with a number of major
makes--never before players in this field planning to jump in or at least
considering it (yes, including Jaguar)--that Land-Rover can hardly rest on
its laurels.  It is necessary to move ahead with the market, but with taste
and finesse, of course...

O.K., I'll admit it; I AM the covert lurker, heh, heh, heh...

What I'm more concerned about is the future of the Defender or its bonafide
successor.  I think that in some ways the Defender, especially in NADA trim,
is already on thin ice as far as continuing the tradition and filling the,
to my mind very important, true utility vehicle (as opposed to
sport-utility) niche.  The use of plastic I don't particularly fault, were
in the age of plastic and it's great stuff, properly used.  

But I'm seriously agrieved by the dim-witted "improvement" of moving the
engine some 8" forward.  No longer is the Land-Rover mid-engined (yes, the
old Land-Rovers have the front of the engine completely behind the front
axle).  Why?  I can't recall that I've seen in print any reasonable
explanation for the necessity of this move.  I recently looked under the
bonnet of a friend's D90 and it looks a mighty lot to me as though that move
was quite unnecessary.  I could see an inch or so to make the V-8 fit better
but no more than that.

Because of that move, the radiator sits right behind the forward-mounted
grille. The most important reason that this should not have been done is
that it severely compromises the once-excellent polar moment of inertia of
the SWB Land-Rover, comprimising directional stability and handling, both
off- and on-road.  And, if you want to put a winch on a Defender, where do
you put it?  All the mountings I've seen compromise the approach angle
and/or sit too high for a proper pull from the frame.  And further
compromise the weight distribution.

Another gripe I have about the NADA D90 design, that seems to be for no good
reason, is the rear bumper/class 3 hitch set-up.  The basic design of the
D90 actually has less rear overhang than the series type (Bruce and I
measured) but, on the NADA D90s, this is shot to hell by all that drop-down,
stick-out contraption for the hitch/step set-up.  Again, why?  A class 3
hitch could be incorporated without such compromise of the otherwise
reasonably good departure angle and acutally GAIN tow capacity which is
improved by moving the hitch point as close as possible to the rear axle
centerline (the reason for 5th-wheel set-ups).  To some extent, this set-up
may be necessitated by the move of the fuel tank to the rear, another
degradation of polar moment of inertia.  The tanks could have been kept
closer to the center if side runners had been standard and properly braced
to the frame and to the rollcage (oops, I mean "Safari Cage").

Wow, once I got started on this thread, I really starting to roll!  Another
puzzling aspect of the NADA D90 design is that the windscreen does not fold!
It can, I understand, be converted by replacing the lower windsreen mounting
brackets with the hinges used on older 90s.  But then the owner is going to
be faced with the shocking news that the front, outside hoop (which I wish
all my Land-Rovers had) of the ro.. er, uh... Safari Cage is too low and
does not allow room to fold the screen!!  If I had one, I'd swap in the
hinges and get a competent welder to modify the hoop to make room for
folding the screen.  If this doesn't seem important to you, you probably
have not yet experienced the joys of topless travel on a dusty trail behind
another vehicle.  Leave the screen up and it sucks the dust into your face,
fold it down and the dust just flows by you.  Yes, you can remove the D90's
screen, but this is not too handy and you risk getting it broken if you
bring it along or don't have it with if you need it.  If you have it folded,
you can reach out and flip it up when you get into the woods and don't want
to get slapped in the face by limbs.

My point, long-windedly made, as is my wont, is that there is still a need
and want for serious, no-compromise utility vehicles [including in the U.S.,
if fed regs would only allow us to have them].  If Land-Rover quits
supplying them, who will fill the gap?  That's why I plan to build a 1958
Land-Rover coiler rather than plan to buy a D90.

OK, OK, I'll climb down off my soapbox.  Whewwww....   ,`:*6..

[Guess that kinda shoots down my credibility as lurker, huh?]

-Granville Pool
-Redwood Valley, CA, USA

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From: JFisk1120@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:33:02 -0400
Subject: Movie Sighting

Rented the other evening "Love Affair" with Warren Beatty, Annette Bening and
Kathyrn Hepburn.  It's a remake of "An Affair to Remember"....you know, those
chick movies!  Anyway, their transportation on this Pacific island is an
older 109"....dark green with cream colored hardtop.  I love it when my kids
scream "Land Rover..Land Rover"!!!  Even at 4 and 7 years of age, they can
spot them a mile away!  And leave it to my 4 year old daughter to spot a FAO
Schwarz shopping bag in the lobby of a hotel later on in the movie!  Great
movie.....at least a three hankie!

"Real men do watch love stories"!  :)

Jan Fisk
Springfield, Missouri

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Date:         Sun, 09 Apr 95 16:35:09 CDT
From: Mike Davis <MDAVIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Should I buy a '92 RR?

I am considering the purchase of this vehicle with 100,000 miles for $20,000.
It has the front and rear brush guards and is white in color and very clean
overall.  I intend to get 3 yr. loan and expect to put approximately 18,000
miles per year on it.  Am I asking for trouble?  I have always done most of my
own service on prior vehicles, what can a reasonably competent owner/mechanic
expect?  Can I expect 200,000+ miles from it without major engine, transmission
differential worries?

 Thanks,
 Mike Davis - Seebeck Computer Center
 The University of Alabama
 MDAVIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 14:48:38 PDT
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Painting by hand

All, 

I know someone posted this before, but can anyone help me with paint colours. 
Specifically I'm looking for Marine blue and limestone. 

I just took my safari top off my IIA to clean the thing up, the headlining is 
terrible and the paint on the roof is a dull green. 

While it's off I want to paint it limestone. Has anyone hand painted their 
roof ? If so what type of paint did you use.  

Mark

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:58:07 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: 7.50x16 Radial M&S Tyres, and others

Granville B. "Daktari" Pool <gpool@pacific.pacific.net> wrote:
>LROs looking for 7.50x16 Radial tyres that are affordable:

>They are showing a Dunlop range called the Radial Rover RT.  The 7.50x16D
 is listed at $102; the 235/85x16E is listed at $104.

 Last year I tried replacing the entire set of "Classic" Land Rover tires
 on my Series III, the Armstrong L78-15's, to be told that Armstrong was
 out of business.  They had been displayed year after year at Costco for
 under $100 installed, and now I had to find the metric equivalents in
 another brand.  So while getting a smog check at a local gas station in
 Moraga, I noticed a brand new set of Armstrong LT235/75 R15's having just
 been installed on a (*cough*) Trooper.  Hurray!!  Armstrongs are still
 readily available here.  1/2 Day delivery at $81-83 each, $7.50 to install,
 plus valve stems to anyone in the Bay Area.  The tread is 2 ply polyester
 and 2 plies steel, and the sidewalls are 2 ply polyester.  (Don't know
 the 16" sizes though.)

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.510-254-3324
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog WWW page at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/cs/cs/unimog.html

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:07:41 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: sIII parts

 Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com> wrote:

>2.  Assuming you are, you say the trans is good, is that one of the parts
 you need, or one for sale?  If it's available I'd me interested.  I've been
 waiting about a year for a trans for my beast.  (Too cheap to buy a new
 one, taking that long to get parts and rebuild the old one).  I need a SIII
 trans, preferably with lotsa miles left on her...

>WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ju/justfred/fred.html

 Hey Fred,

 Just took a look at your fabulous home page.  You indicate that the 109,
 for which you are "Too cheap to buy a new (transmission)", will be sold
 for $20,000.  Certainly a transmission in the $2,000 to $4,000 range is
 is not too much and in proportion to the value of your Rover.   B)

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.510-254-3324
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog WWW page at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/cs/cs/unimog.html

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Date: 09 Apr 95 18:39:21 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Discovery setup...

Just a short note on the "air bag" jack, a friend of mine got one two
years ago for his Defender 130; pointed out to the dealer that he intended
to use it for heavy off-road recovery and such. Dealer was very confident
and gave him all sorts of 'money-back-guarantees' and such - anyway, on the
very first occasion when the thing came to the test, we were offroading &
wallowing in the mud up over our hubs, and the 130 rig got stuck good. He
popped the 'bag' under the vehicle, hooked it up to the exhaust and waited
for things to happen. The more sceptical amongst us already took a few steps
backwards... anyway, when the load came on, the rig slowly came sloshing out
of the mud an inch or so, "the bag" squeaked and groaned and... pooof! simply
exploded. No sharp objects or such, it just couldn't take the load. Then, with
the help of two HiLifts, we got the beast out in no time at all.
...and, yes, he got his money back!

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 16:46:20 -0600 (MDT)
From: Mike Slade <SLCN3@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Rolled Defender 90

Just got back from a weekend of photographing rock art in Southern Utah, and in
Green River saw a pretty banged up Def. 90.  It had been rolled a half a dozen
times on the freeway (I'm guessing about 70MPH), and the body and roll cage
were all mashed up.  The two passengers in the front lived, however the
passenger in the rear broke his/her neck.  I am going to give more than the
benifit of the doubt to that external roll cage.  It was a Beluga Black Def.
and had the full Safari cage.  It held up remarkably well considering all the
damage it had taken.  I do have photos if anyone is interested.

My questions are:

1.  As I am getting a 109/110 hybrid from one as yet unnamed buisness here in
the US, how can I get the US spec Defender 110 external cage?  Will it fit on a
109 body?  If not is there a way to get either an internal or external rollcage
fitted to a 109?

2.  If one were to procure the remains of said rolled Defender from Green River
Utah, what would it's relative worth be?  Everything underneath looked straight
and the engine looked fine.  Could you drop an 88' body on it?  Is there anyone
interested in trading said Defender for other goodies?  What other uses
(besides a complete rebuild) are there for defender 90 running gear?

Anyhow, just thinking about safety etc...

Michael

PS  My 88' is still for sale.

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:10:36 -0400
Subject: SUBSCRIBE

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 17:10:12 -0800
From: jory@org.org (jory bell)
Subject: Re: Rolled Defender 90

:2.  If one were to procure the remains of said rolled Defender from Green River
:Utah, what would it's relative worth be?  Everything underneath looked straight
:and the engine looked fine.  Could you drop an 88' body on it?  Is there anyone
:interested in trading said Defender for other goodies?  What other uses
:(besides a complete rebuild) are there for defender 90 running gear?
:Anyhow, just thinking about safety etc...

I, for opne, would be interested in such a beast for an IBEX rebuild.

:PS  My 88' is still for sale.

got one ;)

-jory

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From: "Steve McDonnell" <SSSMCD@psy1.ssn.flinders.edu.au>
Date:          Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:25:02 GMT-0930
Subject:       

info

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From: JCassidyiv@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:44:06 -0400
Subject: Diff ?

An acquaintance of mine states that he was able to replace the crown and
pinion gears in his Series IIA diffs with those from a Range Rover.  Are
there any rational reasons to consider this typer of modification?  Also,  I
seem to recall a member posting from the Isle of Wight(? Spelling) off the
coast of England.  I happened to meet a native of that Isle.  His name is
Warren Edwicker and he works as a restaurant manager on the Carnival cruise
ship Sensation.  He states that tomorrow he will be going home for a weeks
holiday after 9 months at sea.  He was suprised of our LRO list online.  If
anyone is able to relay a hello to him(I don't know how large the Isle is)
please do so.  He's a real nice chap.
P.S. My 1966 SIIA 88 HT just got its rebuilt engine and stock tranny
reinstalled.  All last week, I had dreams of driving her offroad and she ran
great!  Dreams are great!  It'll be some time before she actually rolls under
her own power.  Hopefully in time for the Owls Head Land Rover event in July
here in Maine.
                       Cheers, and thanks for the Help!

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Another sighting in the movies
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:03:11 EST

Hi all,
        I went to see "Out Break" on the week end, and they show a Land Rover
in the first bit of the movie, the bastards even blow it up!!!!!!!!!!  
The story that there aren't many Land Rovers in America must be false, 
because they seem to blow a lot of them up in American movies!!!

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       My car is constipated,
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       It has not passed a 
                                                |       thing all day!!

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:59:31 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Canadian 110, spotting trivia

Just spotted a Canadian (Quebec) 110 parked down here in Berkeley, CA 
but it was rather unusual.  A very dark bluish green including the roll 
cage.  It's #2/25 which fits with what I understood to be 25 of the 500 
which were imported to North America.  Probably an aftermarket paint 
job; does anyone know if all 500 were white?

Cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:04:11 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: CB recommendations?

Not particularly a LR topic, I admit.  However, being a citizens band 
ignoramous and starting to think about installing one in a Defender I 
was hoping to get advice from people likely to have put theirs to 
similar use.  Ideally the CB would be transferrable into a second 
vehicle.

Thanks for any advice, recommendations, critiques and other assorted 
abuse.  

Cheers,

Jeremy Bartlett

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:53:58 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: CB recommendations?

>Not particularly a LR topic, I admit.  However, being a citizens band 
>ignoramous and starting to think about installing one in a Defender I 
>was hoping to get advice from people likely to have put theirs to 
>similar use.  Ideally the CB would be transferrable into a second 
>vehicle.

 First off, you'd probably want a unit that you can hide (under seat) or
 pop out so that it wouldn't wander off (What! Crime in Berkeley?).  Also,
 you'd probably want one with the channel controls in the handset, so as not
 to take your eyes of the road --too much.  You know, all sets are limited to
 4 watts, which is not that good for an AM set.  You may have to look hard to
 find a set with SSB (Single Side Band), which lets you talk on 1/2 of the AM
 band cycle, either Upper or Lower, giving you a longer range and much less
 interference.  Next thing is to get a 1/4 wave attenna, with all the proper
 co-axial cable connections to your set, strategically mounted to the vehicle
 so that large body panels will act as a ground plane and boost your signal.
 To do this some trucker types will mount a 1/4 wave to each side of the roof
 (midway at the roof, not a corner), with a breakaway connection at the base.
 Finally, for real emergency reasons, some people --and I'm not recommending
 this because it's illegal-- get an inline amplifier to boost their signal
 strength to 40, 60 or even 100 watts in the country.  Hey, if your life is at
 stake you want to be heard, right?  These devices usually are hidden in unused
 spaces inline with the attenna feeds, and switched off at will.

 As to sets, they're hard to find for an upclose look-see and comparison.
 Radio Shack is a start.  Try the specialty magazines at your newstand.  Also,
 since you're in Berkeley, you might want to take a trip to the Ham Shack in
 Burlingame.  They occupy the old Rail Road Station there right by the tracks.
 (Amateur Radio, 2 meters, etc. are popular on the Peninsula!).  There is/are
 also some specialty stores in the same area, so check out the yellow pages
 while there (and ask the boys at the Ham Shack too).

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.510-254-3324
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog WWW page at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/cs/cs/unimog.html

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:27:20 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Painting by hand

Mark Talbot <mtalbot@InterServ.Com> wrote:

>I know someone posted this before, but can anyone help me with paint colours. 
 Specifically I'm looking for Marine blue and limestone. 

>I just took my safari top off my IIA to clean the thing up, the headlining is 
 terrible and the paint on the roof is a dull green. 

>While it's off I want to paint it limestone. Has anyone hand painted their 
 roof ? If so what type of paint did you use.  

 It's not so much the type of paint, as it is the preparation of the aluminum.
 Most paint will adhere to a properly applied primer.  Primer is just like
 paint except it has more polymers in it, giving it more body and making it
 suitable to shaping and sanding.  The problem with aluminum is that it needs
 to be cleaned and etched first to accept the primer, a tedious process with
 mixed results for the amateur.  (No wonder Rovers look as unkept as they do!)

 Taken from the Rovers North newsletter (Spring '91), the paint codes for
 popular Series Land Rover colors are:
               RM Supermax   Ditzler   Glasurit   Dupont Centauri
 Limestone       RV-040       46251                  38505-A 
 Marine Blue     RV-017       16514     ROV-504      38503-A
 Poppy Red       RV-029                 ROV-303      38506-AH
 Pastel Green    RV-028                 ROV-605      38504-A
 Bronze Green    RV-027       46451     LEY-637      38500-A
 Some colors require white primer, others grey.

 Also, Atlantic British used to sell Paint Kits including Variprime, Variprime
 Converter, Galvanized Metal Cleaner, Aluminum Cleaner, Aluminum Converter,
 Dupont Paint, and Reducer, enough for a one 88" at about $229.  Hard to say
 how much of what you'd need to do just one hard top.  One local auto store
 here does sell the Dupont "System", including a step by step brochure, and
 the finish is the best, supposedly.  (Also, you may want to snoop around your
 small local airport to find and get some tips from aircraft painters --planes
 are aluminum skinned and take quite a quite a weather beating.)

 Michael Carradine    Carradine Studios                   Tel.510-254-3324
 Architect            Architecture Development Planning   Pgr.510-945-5000
 NCARB RIBA           PO Box 99, Orinda, CA 94563 USA           cs@crl.com

 Unimog WWW page at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/cs/cs/unimog.html

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:36:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "walter c. swain (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Canadian 110, spotting trivia

On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Jeremy Bartlett wrote:

> Just spotted a Canadian (Quebec) 110 parked down here in Berkeley, CA 
> but it was rather unusual.  A very dark bluish green including the roll 
> cage.  It's #2/25 which fits with what I understood to be 25 of the 500 
> which were imported to North America.  Probably an aftermarket paint 
> job; does anyone know if all 500 were white.
 
A little while back there was a discussion on this very subject on the 
LRO List.  We were informed that all 525 (500 to the US, 25 to Canada-  
not very equitable) were indeed white.  

Who provided this bit of wisdom doesn't come to mind.  Maybe Dixon.

Regards,

Walt

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 23:03:53 -0700
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: LR Reputation

Granville B. "Daktari" Pool <gpool@pacific.pacific.net> wrote:

>>Dean J. Silliman, of Lake Arrowhead, CA said, regarding LR's quality
 reputation and the planned "little" Land-Rover:

>From what I've read about the planned "little" Land-Rover SUV, over the
 years it does not necessarily follow that it will diminish Land-Rover's
 reputation.
   ....[snip / much techical data and emotional concern deleted]....

>That's why I plan to build a 1958 Land-Rover coiler rather than plan to buy
 a D90.

 That-A-Boy, Granville!  I knew you'd come up with something better.

 As to the Rover reputation...  I read your 4 part chronicle of the Mendocino
 outing with delight and some concern.  Overall, it seems that the Rovers had
 a hard time, crossing the creeks and climbing the snowy trails, and having
 been forced to turn back.  Sounds almost like a more difficult trek than, say,
 the Camel Trophy, with none of the accolades.  Another day and this might have
 been a reenactment of the Donner Party.  What are we to think of Rovers now?

 PS- I think the weather was a fluke, and won't happen again for another 100
 years (as they say!).  It might not be necessary to have an Unimog with winch
 on standby next time, but then again, it couldn't hurt.

 Cheers!

 Michael Carradine
 cs@crl.com  

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