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From: "thomas r. coron" <tcoron@s850.mwc.edu>
Subject: Re: USA - out West!
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 8:43:37 EST

John - Sounds interesting. Count me in.

Tom Coron         tcoron@s850.mwc.edu
King George,Va.   703-775-4575
'66' IIA 88 RHD

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Differentials, Limited Slip, Lockers
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:27:00 EST

The purpose of the differential as we all know is to allow a speed 
difference between the two driven wheels on an axle when negoitiating a 
curve. This works fine when there is traction at both wheels. When traction 
is lost then the wheel with the least resistance receives a excessive 
portion of the drive and spins. To prevent this and provide continuous drive 
there are three options which have a different effect.
1 Locking differentials. Differential action is totally eliminated, the 
wheels turn at the same speed. This works fine so long as traction is 
limited but can have serious affects on directional control when the wheels 
all grip.
2. Limited slip differentials. The amount by which the differential gears 
can vary in speed is limited by a clutch, thus some of the drive will always 
go the the wheel with traction. The greater proportion of the drive goes to 
the outside wheel in a curve. This has a stabilising action on the drive 
except when traction is lost intermittently like on an ice road.
 3. So called automatic lockers. These have no differential but use a 
reversible action sprag clutch which allows the faster wheel to overrun the 
other. This puts the drive to the inside wheel on a curve under power.  The 
action of the sprag clutch causes a shift of drive from wheel to wheel going 
from power to overrun which can induce instability and abrupt steering 
responses especially with the front axle. Awareness of the characteristics 
of your axle will enable you to drive within its capabilities. For example 
with #3 don't jump on and off the accelerator in a curve. There was a good 
article recently in 4wheel and off road which explained these more fully and 
tested examples of each. I don't remember the month.

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Gaiters and Swivel Housings
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 15:54:00 EST

When I rebuilt Miss Golightly her swivel housings were somewhat pitted and 
wouldn't keep oil in. I stripped the assemblies and abrasive blasted the 
balls. The deep pits were then filled with Devcon Titanium Putty.  After 
carefully sanding the filled areas to the proper form, the entire balls were 
painted with a two part epoxy enamel (Pettits Hobbypoxy.  BTW they are an 
attractive shade of light blue). After the paint cured hard, with some 
assistance from the kitchen oven (Don't tell Mary), they were assembled with 
new seals and gaiters. The repair has been in service for four years now and 
the only problem encountered was when an errant recovery rope wound itself 
around the axle severing the tie rod and severely  mutilating the gaiter. 
This was replaced with a piece of leather from a redundant armchair. Before 
installation the original and replacemetn gaiters were treated with silicone 
grease (Dow Corning 111) which was worked into them using a spatula. I think 
that a simple conical tube of leather is all thats required.  An old seal 
retainer ring makes a simple template to cut four aluminium retainers and a 
hose clip will retain the inner end. I will measure and post dimensions 
later.

WRT splitting the list. I enjoy reading about and discussing all types of 
Rover. Many of the aspects cross all the model boundaries and as someone 
else said the varieties of Rover are so diverse separation would require 
forty different lists with one subscriber to each. Let's stick to one list 
and marque related content.(see below)

 RE Non- Rover issues. we've all had our fun and made our points pro and 
con.  It did overinflate the list for a few days there(see above). Let's get 
back to marque related items and humour.(ie LHD vs, RHD)

I am going to look at the Toronto Rovers on Sunday. I will post any 
interesting observations.

Trevor Easton teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca 1962 SWB SW "Miss Golightly"

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 12:21:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Fix the list problem...

What I just got from Granville in my inbox was terrific.  I don't even 
own a rover, but I am getting ready to buy a III 88" that Leslie found 
for me.  I love looking at and ooohing, aaaahing over the new rangies and 
landies.  My startup screen has a Disco on it, in beautiful color romping 
in the mud.  I guess what I am trying to say is this, with apologies to 
Granville because he said it much better the first time:

There is no problem other then subject titles.  treating the post 1990 
rovers as "prodigal sons (or daughters) of Solihull" may be fun for some, 
but I do not see it as any reason to ruin it for the rest of us that 
enjoy reading anything on the list.  Chances are, most of the current 
participants are going to subscribe to both if it gets split up anyway, so...
I have said my part.

Thankyou for you attentiveness, and thank you Granville!
steve
swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu
soon to be owner of 1973 Series III 88

On Fri, 17 Mar 1995, Granville Pool wrote:

> How to save this list:
> I originally wrote a long message but trashed it because it has all been 
none
[shortened to keep from wasting valuable Bandwidth]
> Others need to try this.
> End of lecture.
none

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Subject: ODIN / Mini Land Rover
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 11:33:54 -0500

>From the signals I have been receiving the project ODIN smal Land Rover 
vehicle will go on sale in the UK in the fall of 1996.

Indicatioons are that it will either be powered by the "K"series Rover 
car engine or that of the MPi Discovery. It will have a low box so will 
not be a Toyota RAV type vehicle. Initially it will be offered as a 2 
door but a staion wagon versionmight be available later.

Expect to see some prtotypes turn up in some of those remote areas of the 
world used for testing any day now. 

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: 18 Mar 95 14:32:01 EST
From: B Latimer Davies <100427.3237@compuserve.com>
Subject: steel wheels

Mark Ritter writes:
 I am looking for a set of reasonably priced steel wheels
 for my Disco

 If any one is thinking of buying new parts from the UK
 try Aylmer Motor Works on +44 0707 665588 or Fax +44 0707
 665602.They have kept my 88 IIa and RR alive for years
 and will give very good prices to anyone saying they saw
 this posting.

 Regards

 Bryan

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 12:10:07 -0800
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Snow Chains (D90)/ LR parts

I've started thinking about acquiring some chains for a US D90, and 
wondered if anybody has any recommendations.

I came across this statement in Sheppard's "The Land Rover Experience":

"If using front snow chains off road there is a danger, with certain 
types of chain, that full axle articulation and full steering lock at 
the same time could enable the chains to damage the front brake pipes.  
A new type of chain, more easy to attach, is now available as an 
approved Land Rover accesory which obviates this danger (LR part #s, 
TRC9590 for 7.50x16 tyres and TRC9589 for 205x16 and 6.5x16 tyres)."

Is this true?  Anybody have any experience/comments?

Cheers, 

Jeremy

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 12:14:32 -0800
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: US Metal Hardtop D90s?

Does anyone know the location of any dealers who still have the US model 
D90s available with the metal hardtop?  I understand there were 40 or so 
made and not all have sold.

Thanks,

Jeremy Bartlett

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Date: 18 Mar 95 17:11:01 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Gearbox noises

Barry    you do not say which model of gearbox that you have problems with, I
assume it is  a ser 1 or 2, therefore here goes, I will also assume that the
output shaft does not turn when you are in gear with the clutch out ( if it does
this  indicates an axle failure of either the diff or the halfshaft ) 
 the gearboxes are prone to breaking layshafts and mainshafts, if you can drive
in 1st and second, struggle in 3rd and no drive in 4 th the mainshaft has
sheared, usually at the circlip grooove, whilst driving there are usually lots
of banging and crunching noises.
 If you can only drive in 4 th gear then the layshaft is broken, usually at the
circlip groove at the second gear position on the earlier boxes or at the
shoulder on the later boxes.
 If you are unable to drive only in 1 st gear then all the teeth have come of
the layshaft 1 st gear, another common occurence.
 If you are unable to drive in any gear and you think that the shafts in the
main box arte turning then either you have a sheared mainshaft at the output to
the transfer box or a failure of the intermediate gears. or the gearbox is in
nuetral.
 It is not  unusual for  the middle to shear in the clutch plate, particularly
on some of the poorer quality replacement parts that are on the market.
 There are of course many other reasons for non drive but the above are the most
common, aif you drain the oil and examine the debris that comes from the box
then some clues can be obtained as to the probem.
 If ou have any pieces describe them to me and I will hazard some guesses.
 ser3 boxes are less likely to shear the layshaft but the mianshaft diagnosis is
the same, seond gear drive failures are common as are reverse gear problems.
 If you dismantle it to repair, as a minimum replace the second and third gear
bearing bush and circlip and examine the bearings, if it is a ser 1 replace the
front layshaft bearing. MJ 3/4"

 Mark Ritter  to fit the land rover steel wheels to Range rover axles it is
necessary to grind some material from the drive flanges, I assume that the same
is necessary with the disco.

 Chris Stevens-  oil warning light on  -  you have either a faulty switch or an
earth fault in the wiring. or your pressure gauge is faulty, suggest that you
calibrate it.

  regards  Bill  Leacock   limey in exile

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 19:18:16 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Gearbox noises

Bill
Do you know the part number say in Purolator or something common for the 
small filter on the 88 Land Rover.  I want to change the oil this week 
and I don't want to pull the filter off before I do it just to get a 
number.  I would just use some generic tractor filter except I want to 
make sure whatever I buy has the right size "O" ring for the seal between 
the cover and the body of the filter housing.  Dave VE4PN

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Subject: Re: D90 tops, The List, D90 Clanking 
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 20:54:55 -0500
From: "Jeff Young" <young@mci.net>

didn't somebody post that you'd never see a metal top d90 in the
states?  i just got back from a dealership that had a couple of 
them.  i was drooling over them while my practical wife was looking
at the discoveries.  even if she gets one i still want a doormobile.
it's just not the same, but then how do i explain it?

Jeff Young
young@mci.net

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From: RockNHorse@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 23:16:52 -0500
Subject: Desperately seeking Land Rover

A friend has told me he recently purchased an old (1970) land rover 88 which
he found through the Internet.  He gave me this e-mail address.  Any Info
would be appreciated.
RockNHorse@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 20:49:43 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Steel Wheels for Disco

Mark, regarding your question:

>I am looking for a set of reasonably priced steel wheels for my disco. The 16
>inch wheels from a 1967 109 will fit (I've tried it). Used are okay as long as
>their straight. I really don't want to pay dealer price for new wheels ($204
>apiece) just to run some serious mud tires when I go off road. If anyone out
>there has a set of four or knows a source please let me know. thanks

Unfortunately, the steel disco wheels that you need are not to be found in 
the U.S. because they have never been sold here.  But I think they are 
pretty easy to find used in England.  I think they are actually pretty 
attractive, too.  I would suggest that you contact Famous Four Products 
which advertises in LRO magazine.  This outfit seems to specialize in 
selling used equipment and says selling used stuff overseas is no problem.  
Tel: 0507 609444; Fax: 0507 609555.

Good luck.  Get me a set while you're at it ;-]

After I wrote the above, I saw Walt's posting suggesting Atlantic British.  
I think Walt doesn't realize that the Disco steel wheels are not exactly 
interchangable with the sort of Land-Rover steel wheels that he's talking about.

Granville Pool Redwood Valley, California, USA
<mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net> or <Granville_Pool@RedwoodFN.Org>
(707)485-7220 Home, (707)463-4265 Work, FAX to (707)463-5474
'52,'60,'61,'73, and '74 SWB Land-Rovers and Austin Champ 4x4

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