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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 03:24:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: An Introduction to Offroad Instr

jory comments on Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:
 
> crafted. not to mention which, you managed to post one of the most sexist
> and offensive pieces of drivel i've yet seen on the rover mailing list
> (and that's saying something).

Aww Jory... go sit in your oil-bath air cleaner for a while! Pierre's bit of
drivel was great! I bet you wished it was you doing the instruction (didn't
we all!!) "sexist and offensive"??? Who cares.. I laughed my butt off!

Cheers
Mike

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:45:12 -0500
Subject: Series III fuel sender.

My '73 Series III runs out of gas shortly before the guage tells me that I'm
about to be walking.   Two questions:

(1)  Could I remove the sending unit and slightly bend the float wire up (or
down?) so that it erred to my benefit (ie: showing empty before it actually
is) ?

(2)  I understand the diesel versions have a low fuel (reserve) warning
light.   Could I retrofit a diesel sending unit and install a light for same
on the dash?

Thanks all.   Rick  <rickcrider@ aol.com)

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:45:13 -0500
Subject: Overdrive Whine.....

I've recently installed a brand new Fairey (Superwinch) overdrive on my
Series III.   Installation went flawlessly.   Overdrive works smoothly and
correctly but it has a higher pitched and more noticeable whine (than the
regular trans.) at highway speeds  and upon decceleration from highway
speeds.   Is this to be expected?

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:45:12 -0500
Subject: Range Rover Sensors

Having seen several postings about sensors and related problems,  here's
mine:    On my 1988 Range Rover, the oil warning light stays on.  Been on a
couple of years now. Occasionally goes off but only for a few minutes.   Have
replaced the oil pressure sending unit that's on the oil filter housing and
also the oil level sending unit that's in the sump.  No luck.   I am
persnikity (sp?) about maintenance so I do put a manual oil pressure guage on
it regularly to check the oil pressure.   It always reads perfect book spec
under all conditions.    I've become quite used to the red glow on the dash
but it's humiliating when a new passenger gets in and immediately points out
that my oil light is on.   I also run ham radio and mobile communications
equipment in the vehicle....sometimes at high rf power.   Think I've fried a
chip somewhere with my radio waves?????    Any ideas welcome.   Thanks.
Rick Crider  <rickcrider@aol.com>

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:45:14 -0500
Subject: Retractable Belts.

Any ideas on retractable seat belts for a Series III that utilizes the
existing mounts and doesn't look 'added on' or JC Whitneyish?    Seat belts
are the law here and I believe in them anyway, but the stock belts are a
hassle.

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 03:32:28 -0800
From: jory@mit.edu (jory bell)
Subject: Re: An Introduction to Offroad Instr

>jory comments on Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:
>> congratulations pierre. your writing style is vivid and passably well
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>Cheers
>Mike

I hate it when I am supposed to "lighten up" instead of defending basic
human rights. Like, gosh those nigger jokes sure are funny... just becausde
they're based on hundreds of years of slavery and oppression doesn't mean
you should be a killjoy. Did you hear the one about the jews in the gas
chambers... oh and those serbs and theiur racial cleansing and mass
rape.... now THAT'S humor!

The sort of sexist, objectifying, testosterone laden shit in Pierre's
"drivel" is truly hurtful. To be perfectly honest, while I was reading it,
I kept trying to convince myself that it was some sort of parody, instead
of facing the fact that people in an ad hoc community to which I belong
could be such total fuckers.

Perhaps the worst aspect of your response if your attempt to dismiss any
perspective which clashes with your own humorous misogynist reading of
Pierre's story. Maybe you truly found it funny. Maybe you were actually
oblivious to the blatant sexism. Please don't then assume that everyone
else shared your lack of clue and "laughed their butt off", and wished to
be in pierre's place. I did neither, anmd I pray others had the same
response.

However, what I really believe is that you didn't think Pierre's story was
funny despite being sexist and offensive. You thought it was funny
*because* it was sexist and offensive. That's why you're scum.

-jory

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:29:18 +0001 (GMT)
From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Series III fuel sender.

Yes, you can bend the wire.  If you bend it so the float is 'higher' 
(bend the rod up) you'll get a lower reading (the angle of the arm will 
be lower with the same fuel level), which is what you want.  You could 
also remember where it runs out or mark it on the dial for a less 
professional solution...

I have a diesel unit (on a diesel).  If the bolt pattern is the same 
(should be), I don't know why it wouldn't fit.  It has two spade 
connectors at the top. One for the meter and one for the light. They are 
seperate senders too, as my meter died and the fuel light kept working.  
I replaced the unit (from Craddock) for 22 pounds last week... The Land 
Rover thanked me by developing a leak in the fuel tank, so it still reads 
zero most of the time... arghhhh

charlie

C. R. Wright                                    Dept. of Genetics
+44 (0)1223 333970 telephone                    Univ. of Cambridge
+44 (0)1223 333992 telefax                      Downing Street, Cambs.
cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk                        CB2 3EH, England

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 08:00:10 -0500
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Re: An Introduction to Offroad Instruction, etc

Unkle Mike responded:

> >Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:
> >---------------------------------------------------
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> that's saying something).
> -jory
Yes,I liked it too!
Cheers
Mike Rooth
> >Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:

I disagree with Unkle Mike.  It was very sexist and offensive.  Oh, uh, 
Pierre, by the way, how does one apply for an instructor's position in this 
driving school?

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Someone asked (couldn't tell who from the header):

> >Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:
I've recently installed a brand new Fairey (Superwinch) overdrive on my
Series III.   Installation went flawlessly.   Overdrive works smoothly and
correctly but it has a higher pitched and more noticeable whine (than the
regular trans.) at highway speeds  and upon decceleration from highway
speeds.   Is this to be expected?
> >Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:

Yup

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Rick asked:

>(1)  Could I remove the sending unit and slightly bend the float wire up (or
>down?) so that it erred to my benefit (ie: showing empty before it actually
>is) ?

Yes.  And it's easy to get at.  Just make sure after you bend it that it 
doesn't contact the draw tube, and if the gasket is old/ripped, replace it or 
it'll leak when you fill it.

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 09:24:09 -0500
Subject: Hollywood Rovers

Just saw Wolf last night.  Not only Michelle Pfieffer beautiful and drives a
Range Rover, but she's a WEREWOLF!!  AhhhWooooooooooo  Ow  Ow
 AhhhWoooooooooooo!!

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 14:27:48 +0001 (GMT)
From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: An Introduction to Offroad Instr

Jory, if it doesn't amuse you, you can take your self-righteousness
elsewhere and unsubscribe. Whether Pierre amused me or not, he can, for
now and I hope forever, express what he wishes how he wishes, as long as
it does not cause harm to anyone or infringe their rights. You have a
right not to read it as surely as he has the right to type it.  While it
may cause offense, it does NOT in any way affect your basic human rights
or those of the bawdy lasses in the story. If I take your overbearing and
sanctimonious logic to its academic conclusions, it would suggest stopping
this sort of expression, any related writing or speech, and
books/pamphlets/thesis/art modern and historical that represent any idea
you feel unfair, slanted, or otherwise biased or... dare I say... contra
your own high-minded ideals. 

I didn't laugh my butt off, but I can picture the scene. I've seen those
students on the streets of Cambridge. These people exist.  It made me
snicker.... s'pose I'm scum.  This is a voluntary group, and if you don't
like the tone and object to your fellow members, you have the right to
leave, and it sounds like it would be better if you did. 

Now before this gets any nastier, back to my offensive comments about Joe 
Lucas... I hope I haven't infringed his (copy)rights..

Charlie

My boorish manners, appreciation for vernacular humor, and lascivious 
morals are not the responsibility of my department.

C. R. Wright                                    Dept. of Genetics
+44 (0)1223 333970 telephone                    Univ. of Cambridge
+44 (0)1223 333992 telefax                      Downing Street, Cambs.
cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk                        CB2 3EH, England

On Sat, 11 Mar 1995, jory bell wrote:

> >jory comments on Pierre's introduction to offroad tuition:
> >> congratulations pierre. your writing style is vivid and passably well
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 42 lines)]
> funny despite being sexist and offensive. You thought it was funny
> *because* it was sexist and offensive. That's why you're scum.
> -jory

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 09:31:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Retractable Belts.

I installed a set on my IIa a few years ago.  I either got them from Atlantic
British or Rovers North.  They are inertial shoulder belts that fit very
nicely in a series truck.  The retractor spools attach on the backside of the
bulkhead and go through a loop attached to the top of the bulkhead.  It is a
very clean installation.

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 09:33:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Series III fuel sender.

Just bend the float wire.  It's an easy and cost-free field adjustment.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date:          Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:57:11 GMT -0600
Subject:       MIG welding & dash lites

Someone, I can't remember who, asked about CO2 for welding L/R 
bodies. I sent him a message based on faulty memory. The message I 
found on the net this morning is correct. Argon is what you want to 
use.  One reason being that Argon, when used with MIG welding, 
creates a cleaning action on the al. to help get rid of the 
oxidation. This doesn't remove the need to wire brush the area 
immediately before welding however. You don't need to use an Argon 
Helium mix unless you are welding al in the overhead position (Argon 
is heavier than air), or are welding heavy guage. Helium will 
increase the arc voltage which will add more heat to the weld pool.  
The L/R sheet metal is thin enough to not need that. Also with Helium 
you get more weld spatter and a lees smooth arc. Also, make sure that 
your wire is in good shape. If it's been sitting around for a while 
and exposed to high humidity, it will likely cause hydrogen inclusion 
in the weld, which take the form of bubbles.  I could go on, but I'll 
save it for any specific questions.  If you want to get 
really technical, get a copy of the Proccedure Handbook of Arc 
Welding, published by Lincoln Electric. An execellent text. 

Dash lights,
I bought a box for my '67 109 in 1980. 10 for $5.70. They have a 
screw base. The receipt(was still in the box, I don't intentionally 
keep receipts that long) says part no. COL 3898. On the box, which is 
TRIFA brand AUTO LAMPEN it says, 12V3W, E 10/13, 166. Don't know if 
this will be any help, but hope so.

Regarding Swivel balls; 
Early Jeeps (thpt, thpt) had swivel balls, but they "improved" them by 
going to the open U-Joint. I seem to recall that L/R was originally designed 
with CV jonts in the front. Am I right? Or am I getting that confused with 
the duece & 1/2 I used to have that did have CV joints in the front 
drive axles?

Tom Rowe
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Center for Dairy Research
1605 Linden Dr., Madison, WI 53706
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578
Home:608-243-8660
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu

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From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: rec.autos.4s4
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 14:09:48 

I went over there because they don't flame me as bad.  :)

BTW, I ask so many questions because, for those who haven't figured it out yet 
I was/(am?) trying to have put together a specific rover...specific to my 
tastes.  So I have to ask a lot of questions to know what to put on it...if I 
want to plunk down the money for it.  Blah blah blah ramble ramble ramble.

Taylor

-- 
     One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
     One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
     In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie. 
<->                  C. Taylor Sutherland, III               <->
<->      IRC Nick:  NIV       <-> taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu <->

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 14:30:54 -0800 (PST)
From: "S. F. Yee" <travsboc@crl.com>
Subject: Land Rovers = Credibility? (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:30:01 -0800 (PST)
From: S. F. Yee <travsboc@crl10.crl.com>
Subject: Land Rovers = Credibility?

Hot on the trails (sic) of such fine media portrayals in "Tom Clancy's Op 
Centre" is my recent observation that the David Silver character on 
"Beverly Hills, 90210" (Brian Austin Green) drives a new black Defender 90.

In the world of non-fiction, the Associated Press reported that Michael 
Jordan suddenly left the White Sox spring training camp "in his black Range 
Rover."

It must be indeed a slow week on the list!

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 15:04:27 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Overdrives..

All, 

Okay, I have 7 confirmed overdirves (including me) We need 3 more before 
Monday. Come on, can't you do with the extra top, less rpm !!!! 

If I don't get 10 I will call and see what else I can do with Merseyside. I'm 
sure that we can get a price break, it's not often they get an order for  over 
3000 pounds !!!

Mark

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 15:04:35 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Chevy Conv

All, 

What you need is a small block chevy manifold ram horn style. 

Mark

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 15:04:46 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: She's Running .......

All, 

AT LAST, Beryl is running. I git her running down the road to test out 
everything, besides a small oil leak from the oil fliter, that's it. The 
electrics need sorting, as the lights come on when the key is turned ! 

The clutch needs bleeding again as there is a real bite to it when you lift 
the pedal, almost immediately. 

Still she's running and that's all thats important. Tomorrow its around the 
lake. 

Mark  

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 19:44:51 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: MIG welding & dash lites

Thanks for the welding info.  I ordered my bottle filled today and I have 
good wire.  I only have to replace the liner and I am away.  I have never 
done MIG but lots of arc so I have been trying to get a good book on the 
subject.  The local library is trying to get me a good text.  I am using 
teach yourself to weld at the moment and it isn't very informative so 
that is why the questions the last few days.  I have asked for a week off 
work at the end of the month so I should have lots of time to teach my 
self all the tricks.  Thanks again.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 19:48:27 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Chevy Conv

On Sat, 11 Mar 1995, Mark Talbot wrote:

> All, 
> What you need is a small block chevy manifold ram horn style. 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> What you need is a small block chevy manifold ram horn style. 
> Mark
Do you know what vehicles that manifold was used on?  I will have to 
visit the wrecker to get one and I need to know what to look for.  I seem 
to think pre 1980 GMC trucks might work and Chevel and Nova.  Any 
suggestions.  Dave VE4PN

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 22:40:59 -0500
Subject: Recent Posting

 Pierre Antony Ketteridge,

Your recent posting on LRO-digest was really the most obnoxious posting that
I have seen on the net in recent times. Maybe you should stick to other
formats for posting your sexually offensive materials. Not that I want to
appear as a pruddish American, I am not even an American by birth, but I think
 that you could have posted something relevant to the use of Land Rovers, and
operation of Land Rovers, rather than how you used it to play out some
fantasy. There are women of some class(they must be because they own or are
married to someone who owns a Land Rover) who belong to this net and I am
sure that they did not feel comfortable with what you posted. Sorry to the
rest of you for taking up your space with this message, but I felt a strong
sense of disgust and needed to express that to you Pierre.

Hope to see some positive things from you on this listing in the future, and
will look forward to them if they are pertinent to Land Rovers. 

Cheers

Chris

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