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1 maloney@wings.attmail.co140Taylor's 88 Questions
2 Russell Burns [burns@cis18Rube Goldberg yakima ski rack
3 David John Place [umplac9Insulation for Land Rover


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:15:53 -0500
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Taylor's 88 Questions

Taylor asked:

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Drum brakes...(Y/N)...How well do the servo assited ones stop?
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Like a truck.  I drive mine with a bit more respect than my commuter car.
And I avoid heavy stop & go traffic.  Not fun.

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Do you have to get out and lock the hubs manually?...(Y/N)...can you
	do it without ripping your knuckles off?
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Yes.  You may have to get your feet dirty if you haven't thought ahead.  But 
it's better than some of the shift on the fly systems, where you have to be on
the fly to shift (older Cherokees come to mind, if you get stuck in 2wd, 
you're stuck- 4wd cannot be engaged on some at a standstill w/o lots of nasty 
grinding noises).  There are a variety of hubs on the market, and some are 
easier than others.

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Internal electrical system for say spotlights and phones...(Y/N)
Possibility for a cheap radio...(Y/N)

Are there problems with the 6 cylinders that no one has talked about? How 
expensive is it (average) to have a V8 put in an 88" or does it just not fit 
or is the general opinion "who would want it now" hold?

How noisy is noisy?  My Blazer gets noisy and I couldn't hear myself in our 
'82 Toy LC.
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Many have tackled all of the above, but if accessories, power, and noise 
levels are important to you, I think you're probably better off sticking with 
your Blazer (they are considerably noisier than a Blazer).

>From reading the FAQ, I got a different opinion from that of the
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person I was talking to about purchasing a refurbished one, and that
was this.  The FAQ tended to give the impression that if I were to
drive it 160 miles home, then I should expect to change the water
heater and some belts and hoses and all the fluids twice just so I
could get home.  Now is this a LR or a MG?!  
>From reading the FAQ, I got a different opinion from that of the

I'm not quite clear on what you mean here.  But from my own experience, it 
took 2 months of nights & weekends to get my 88 on the road after I got it 
home and 3 months for my 109 (to a point where they were safe, reliable, and 
that no fluids poured out as fast as they were poured in).  I have to admit I 
I'm a bit on the slow & methodical side.

>From reading the FAQ, I got a different opinion from that of the
The person I talked to
about buying one said that there was not that threat of something
breaking looming over your shoulder like that, in fact nothing like
that at all.  Who's right?  If I were to get an LR in "perfect"
condition, should I expect this kind of thing?  Of course I would if I
were to take cow paths for 160 miles but on interstate?  With a 10
gal. tank, I might have to fill up once but I would not like to have
to tighten the steering column and replace the ball joints for the
steering at the same stop?  What good is it to survive getting run
over by a rhinocerous when you just have to replace all the belts when
you start to run away? 
>From reading the FAQ, I got a different opinion from that of the

Once I attended to all of the things that were wrong from the time I bought 
mine, they have been pretty reliable.  Things that stopped me were: 
distributor earth wire snapped (109), original fuel pump failed(88), original 
water pump failed on one (88), and a brand new one failed on the other 
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).

If you buy a used one, expect there to be a bunch of things wrong with it from
the start.  Note all you can find, then multiply it by 3 or 4 to get an idea 
of how much work & $ you have ahead of you.

The tank holds about 12 US gal.  I get about 19 on the highway.  Some folks 
get more, some less.

 
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).
Finally, how do these things drive up mountains?
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).

Eventually. :-)

(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).
Will I be forced to fall in behind the Mayflower tractor trailer
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).

Nope.  But if you happen to be in front of one going up that mountain, expect 
him and all the other truckers behind you to say lots of bad things about you,
on the CB as they have about Jim Allen, Sandy, & TerriAnn.

(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).
 or will I be able to reach 55?
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).

Of course.  But only if it's a short mountain. :-)

(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).
I want to know what I'm getting myself into, first.  I'm a student, and I 
don't have time to spend all my time under the hood of the thing, fun though 
it may be, if not a learning experience.  ...I really need to learn more about
fixing cars....  Sheesh!
(109-replaced under warrantee), original radiator gave out (88).

Taylor,

I'm not sure a LR is what you want.  Part of why I like mine is because they 
are a diversion that allows me to tinker and keep up my mechanical skills.  I 
also like the simplicity of the vehicle - it's relatively easy to work on and 
there's not a whole lot to go wrong once you've set it right.  Today I've got 
the time and enough money to keep them going.  I didn't when I was in school. 
I couldn't imagine getting one as a full time student with no money (at least 
I had no money).  

You also have to devote a fair amount of time to it in the beginning, and 
simple as they are, you've got to learn a few things about fixing the vehicle.
As much as I've always wanted one, in the beginning there were times when I 
got really frustrated and discouraged with the amount of things I had to 
tackle on mine, and most of what I did I learned as I went along.  But I must 
admit, I'm glad I stuck with it.  I've wanted a Rover ever since I was a 
little kid and it's really become a passion.

I guess the best advice I can give you is to give it a lot of thought before 
you jump into anything.

Look before you leap!

Bill

88 IIA & 109 Wagon

maloney@wings.attmail.com

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Rube Goldberg yakima ski rack
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:37:20 PST

Well I got the yakima rack on the truck. The trick was to weld gutters
to the truck. Actually I welded the gutters to some 90 degree .25 "
thick shelf brackets with an added twist. The shelf brackets were about
6" high, so I got enough clearance for the hardtop. I used some
1.75" muffler clamps, and bolted the shelf bracket with the attacked gutter
to the external roll cage out side the front doors. I also had to weld a
support bar, so the who thing looks like a triangle.
I am not too sure how I am gong to get at the ski's, maybe I will have
to weld up a ladder to get at them.

Russ Burns
It a warm -10 F for those of you that have some real cold..

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 23:34:58 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Insulation for Land Rover

Does anyone know the correct name for the expanded rubbery styro-foam 
like material used as packing for electronic parts.  I want a non 
hydroscopic expanded foam in the doors of my Rover, but don't know what 
to ask for.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 06:52:25 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: SIGN! (90kb)

Most honourable listmembers.

Many of you received a sample sign by e-mail just before christmas. A sign
that can only be used for a limited period of time within the year. Granville
Poole and i have made the final modifications to the original and wish to 
propose this for the official "club" sign.

Please excuse me while i address the latest members to the list. 

	Last autumn there was a discussion about converting this mailing list
	into something else than a mailing list. Some suggested that we made
	this a real club with numbers and all. Others suggested the list be
	replaced by a newsgroup. There even was a poll for a name for this
	newsgroupclublikething. Some of these names were the result of huge
	brainpower discharges. (I bet Maloney sat on the mountain shifting
	letter-bricks for days ;-) ). Well, to make a long entertaining story
	short; we ended up with a mailing list called "lro@team.net" 
	(@stratus.com). Then Granville mentionend that he was working on a
	sign. And i can't keep my mouse shut.

Due to an example of international cooperation and understanding, the sign is 
now ready to be evaluated. 

The image is prepared in the increasingly popular JPEG format, uuencode, and
attached directly under this text to avoid some decoding problems experienced
earlier. I can also provide .GIF or .CDR (scalable) if desired. In the image 
are some very Land-Rover specific symbolic. They can easily be spotted by 
anyone with 90wt in the veins. Aren't we all suffering from this rare 
petro-chemical disease? :-)

Dear co-members, the word is yours.

sv/aurens   velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk

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