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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 02:41:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: cont. For Sale

Another one bites the dust....

.....snip......
> else can I say..oh, my fiancee' isn't all that receptive to my
> Land Rover affliction...so I thought I'd push the envelope
.....snip......
> you how've already met me and my future bride...I'd be happier
> marring the Land Rover of course but I think there's a law
> against that..? Oh well to my friends any help would be most 

Gee, Ben.. I don't think that there is any law that says you can't marry a
Land Rover.. They certainly are a lot less trouble than women!!   :-)

She isn't receptive to your Land Rover affliction, eh? Better think twice
about this, Ben.. Keep the one your selling and give it to her!! Convert her
over! This Land Rover affliction is life-long, she better get used to it.

Seriously though.. good luck!

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 02:42:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 88" Series III

Taylor asks...

> Drum brakes...(Y/N)...How well do the servo assited ones stop?

Will you be be peeling your eyeballs off the windscreen? NO, but you will
stop, if everything is in working order. But there is the usual drum brake
stuff... They don't work as well wet (like after crossing a stream) as they
do dry.. you get used to it...

> Do you have to get out and lock the hubs manually?...(Y/N)...can you
>         do it without ripping your knuckles off?

If you have freewheeling hubs (They were not standard equipment) you will
have to lock the hubs manually. Rip your knuckles off? I use my fingers to
lock my hubs...

> Internal electrical system for say spotlights and phones...(Y/N)
> Possibility for a cheap radio...(Y/N)

You can hang anything you want on the electrical system... within the limits
of what Joe Lucas will supply without burning out. Keep in mind the older
Rovers could be positive earth (ground) so regular radio connections don't
work. You *can* work around it... 

> How noisy is noisy?  My Blazer gets noisy and I couldn't hear myself
>         in our '82 Toy LC.

What?? Speak up...

> From reading the FAQ, I got a different opinion from that of the
> person I was talking to about purchasing a refurbished one, and that
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> that at all.  Who's right?  If I were to get an LR in "perfect"
> condition, should I expect this kind of thing?

Keep in mind that you'll be buying a vehicle that is over 20 years old. If
it was maintained properly, you should be able to drive it home with no
problems.. If it sat around idle for a year or two before you bought it,
expect the unexpected! As the Canadians say, Shit Happens..
"Perfect Condition"??? What's that?? Oh yeah, they built Land Rovers and
MG's using some of the same parts... 

> Finally, how do these things drive up mountains?  Will I be forced to
> fall in behind the Mayflower tractor trailer or will I be able to
> reach 55?

Do you mean on or off road?? This is *NOT* a highway cruiser. 55 is fine, 60
is probably OK. Past that and it's anyone's guess. Again, it depends on how
the vehicle was maintained.  

> I still am highly interested in getting one so I can have the guy with
> the Jeep Renegade drool at it as I pass, but I want to know what I'm

He may drool if your passing him while he's stuck... Of course, he may just
drool... duhhhhhh... So.. Do you want a Rover for the image or do you want
it as a vehicle that will stay with you for a while? Think hard, there's
gonna be a quiz later...

> getting myself into, first.  I'm a student, and I don't have time to
> spend all my time under the hood of the thing, fun though it may be,

Gee.. I hate to be the one to tell you, but part of owning a Land Rover is
learning how to fix it... You learn how to do it right, and you don't spend
*all* your time under the hood... :)

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 02:42:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Landrover Series III

Hi Guy...

> I am looking to get in contact with other Landrover owners. I am a
> recent new owner of a 1973 Series III that I completely rebuilt. 

Well.. keep on the LRO list here any you'll see more than a few events. Are
you at Clarkson?   Pottsdam/Canton area?  Contact Dixon Kenner (who is also
on this list) about joining the Ottawa Valley Land Rovers (OVLR). You're not
all that far away and they are some serious Land Rover people. Serious beer
drinkers, too..  :)

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
 

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 08:33:12 -0500
Subject: Re: 109 HCPU /tires

Stephan writes about the 109 HCPU 
snip...
exist a S.III 109 HCPU cab truck 1 Ton, very rare specimen, 
probably never made an appearance Stateside. It had rims 
snip...

i've seen one in the us, at Rovers North, 
I think it belonged to mark.

Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                               Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA
508-373-1788 (W)                                508-521-4093 (H)
508-521-1380 (FAX)
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1969 IIA SWB - The Wayback Machine
Now with most of the Federally requred electrics!

Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway!
What will they think of next!

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 14:36:15 +0100
From: Simon Hobson <simon@ccomms.demon.co.uk>
Subject: By Appointment to ... (was D90 Advert)

>And hey, a question for the UK folks:  Why do English products always have
>the four "By Appointment To ..." crests displayed in their ads and packaging?
> My Orvis fly fishing gear has the same thing.

It's a prestige thing, if the royal family uses your product you want
people to know about it - going for the "if it's good enough for the Queen,
it just might be good enough for me" factor.

TTFN, Simon

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| Simon Hobson - Carrier Communications Ltd                               |
| simon@ccomms.demon.co.uk   voice +44 1229 581357  fax +44 1229 581203   |
===========================================================================

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 09:30:40 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John Hess)
Subject: Dream Sales job?

Howdy,

For everyone out in internetland, here's a chance to sell your favorite car:

from the saturday sacramento (california) bee,
sales associate  Hubacher Cadillac/Land Rover  wants to hire two people
with automotive sales backgrounds, apply in person, ask for tony, brad or
brian.

The dealer sells Cadillacs, Range Rovers and Land Rovers. I met one of the
sales men (owns a D90 and is interested in the older series vehicles) at a
breakfast of the local sacramento area LROA members.  Seems like in
Sacramento, sales are good.

John Hess, PhD                    Phone me 916 752 8420
Dept of Human Anatomy             FAX me (ask first or I may get in trouble)
University of Calif
Davis, CA                         Email me jfhess@ucdavis.edu

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From: CTPJ@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 12:30:41 -0500
Subject: subscribe

subscribe

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 18:31:17 +0100
From: caloccia@team.net (Bill Caloccia)
Subject: Re: By Appointment to ... (was D90 Advert)

>>And hey, a question for the UK folks:  Why do English products always have
>>the four "By Appointment To ..." crests displayed in their ads and packaging?

It is kinda like if you do business in Georgia, if you've got Coca-Cola as a
customer, then you're ok, though I can't recall seeing 'by appointment to
Coca-Cola'
 :-)

    Cheers,
        --bill  caloccia@Team.Net       caloccia@Stratus.Com

      1  3     dl OD  L           "Land Rover's first, becuase
      |--|--+  o  |   |            Land Rovers last."
      2  4  R     N   H           '72 Range Rover

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From: AshtonLand@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:55:31 -0500
Subject: Subscribe

Subscribe Land-Rover-Owner Stephen G. Loosli

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From: JHowat@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 16:08:39 -0500
Subject: subscription opps

Sorry the complete address on the subscription request is jhowat@aol.com

Opps  

TeriAnn

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From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland, III)
Subject: 6-Cyl vs. V8
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:13:25 

I'm trying to psych myself up to purchace an 88" Series III.  I live on the 
edge of the Blue Ridge in northern S.C. and western N.C. and therefore, I do a 
lot of driving in mountainous terrain.  I believe that I will need more power 
than just the 2.25 l 4-cyl or else I will never be able to get over the 
mountains.  But I've heard that there have been problems with the in-line 6.  
Am I right?  I have missed most of the discussions about them.  If anybody has 
any major points to make known, that would be appreciated.  Also, I've heard 
that people have successfully put the V8 in their SWB vehicles.  What's the 
success rate, and is it worth the trouble?  I wouldn't mind having a V8 but if 
it is most likely going to give me problems in the future, then I don't think 
it would be prudent.

BTW, I'm goin to be getting the thing if at all from a group that builds them 
or rather rebuilds them to your specs, so the talk of watching where I buy it 
from can be forgone.  (such so people will get to the point is all.  :)  )

Thanks..

Taylor

-- 
       One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
       One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
       In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie. 

<-> C. Taylor Sutherland, III <-> taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu      <->
<->  <-> IRC Nick:  NIV       <-> taylors@gamma.phys.clemson.edu  <->

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From: AshtonLand@aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 21:32:38 -0500
Subject: Importing Land Rover Dfndr 110's

Hello Land Rover lovers!

I have just learned of you through British-Cars, and am thrilled to discover
this resource.

On with my question.

I have been a faithful Toyota Landcruiser fanatic for years (I own two of
them).  However, one look at the Defender 90, 110 and Discovery models now
available in the U.S. has converted me from this folly.

I am interested in learning how I might obtain a Defender 110 County and
import it to the U.S. (only 500 were made available here, and they are priced
as a rare commodity).

As I researched this, I began by calling Land Rover North America.  The
answer was a pretty flat "We have no plans to import that model in the
future."  Undaunted, I was able to contact the Western U.S. distribution
manager for Land Rover.  He informed me that the test vehicles brought in to
the U.S. DOT were swiss specified, and that he believed they were compatible
with U.S. regulations.

I then contacted Land Rover in Solihull and visited with the Defender Product
manager.  He was unwilling to provide any information or speculation beyond
mailing me a list of world-wide Land Rover dealers, including the Swiss
agent.  He was concerned about the liability of appearing to aid in the
import of a vehicle to the U.S. looking too much like cooperation.

I faxed a request to the Swiss agent and waited.  No reply was forthcoming
until a couple of weeks later.  A letter arrives from Land Rover North
America - "We received this request from our agent in Switzerland.  We have
no plans to import that model to the U.S."  What a surprise.

I have reviewed the DOT rules and have visited with the San Francisco Port
Manager for U.S. Customs.  If the vehicle arrives already titled in my name,
the U.S. Customs procedures are pretty easy to deal with; import duty,
inspection, etc.  The cost would'nt be the $5000.00 most people readily
quote, but more likely $1500.00.  Remember, this is only IF the vehicle is
already titled in my name and is considered an "informal" importation.

Does anyone have any experience in this area?  Any suggestions on how to get
around the Land Rover bottleneck?  I don't want to deceive the Swiss agent,
but I am of Swiss heritage and have access to relatives in Switzerland who
can assist with an address, etc.

I look forward to a reply, and am happy to cooperate with any list member in
any way.  I also make an open invitation to any member who would like to come
and try their hand at the Rubicon Trail or Sierra Trek, located high in the
Sierra Nevadas near Lake Tahoe.  I live in Reno, minutes from Lake Tahoe, and
would be happy to volunteer as trail guide or host.  For now, you'll have to
forgive the 1971 Toyota Landcruiser in the driveway!

Sincerely,
Stephen Loosli
AshtonLand@aol.com
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