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Date: 10 Feb 95 08:25:34 EST
From: Pierce Reid <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: Lamborghini LM002

I never knew much about the Lamborghini LM002, but that was the name.  They were
about $125K, had a 12 Cylinder and very large, military-like Balloon tires.
Only 4 wheels, though, not 6.

Not many were imported.  I have never actually seen one outside the ads in the
back of the Robb Report.

Demographics were probably people who had never heard of Land Rovers....

Cheers, 

R. P. Reid

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Date: 10 Feb 95 08:35:20 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: braking system

> (...snip ...snip...)     The dual line master cylinders in the pile are
> al for servo assistance, could I try to fit one of those in-place of the
> single line versions, after relocating the bolt holes? Do I need ...

Oh no, you can't do that... don't even think of it. They have totally
different specs. If you use them, you must go all the way and fit the
vacuum pot, not forgetting to connect the vacuum hose to the carb or
intake manifold.

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:44:42 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Where's LRO?

Where is this months's LRO magazine?  Has anyone on this side of the pond
received it yet?  One chap with offices in the both the UK and Atlanta (and
an overnight courier pouch between them) sent me a FAX of Jim Allen's
article on the Mid-Atlantic Rally, but the transmission ended up looking
like Sumerian clay tablet writing - elongated, illegible text with barely
discernable photos: just enough to really pique my interest...not enough to
read.  There for a while, when the threat of competition from LRW seemed
imminent, LRO was doing okay...but now they seem to be lapsing back into
their old selves.

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:05:11 -0600
From: AshtonLand@aol.com (by way of hiner@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Hiner))
Subject: Land Rover Defender 110's, etc.

I saw this on the LRO list - Greg

I'm wondering if anybody has any knowledge on obtaining Land Rover  Defender
110's, 130's or High Capacity Pick-ups and importing them to the United
States for personal use.  I have contacted Land Rover North America and get
the pat answer "We don't import those models and have no plans to do so."
 However, their director of marketing for the Western U.S. tells me that
Swiss specified Land Rovers meet or exceed U.S. requirements.  When I
contacted the Land Rover representative in Switzerland, I was referred to
Land Rover North America.  What a surprise.  I have also talked with the
product manager for Defenders at Land Rover in Solihull.  He informed me
that, for liability reasons, he could offer no assistance.  I don't think it
can be this difficult to do - after all, the original Land Rovers brought to
the U.S. this last time around for DOT tests, etc., were Swiss spec'd.  I'd
appreciate any help that can be offered.

Sincerely,
Stephen Loosli
AshtonLand@aol.com

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From: "Mugele, Gerry" <Gerry.Mugele@wellsfargo.com>
Subject: Why a L-R?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:06:00 PST

"George S. Reiswig" <gereiswi@NMSU.Edu>  asks for advice:

>>So, all you D90 owners...why should I plop down such an
>>exhorbitant amount of money for the D90?  [none]  Thanks again in advance.

Sorry George...but L-Rs are more of an affliction than a rational choice. 
 You lay out the money cause you find you just can't live without one.  It 
happened to me >25 years ago and clearly this debilitation has effected my 
economic status and personal sense of well-being.  Over the years I've 
dumped alot(!) of $ into the various beasts I've owned, keeping them well. 
And I've never felt as secure in the middle of nowhere as I do in my 88". 
 As Dick O'Kane, a writer, said a few decades ago: "When you're in a Land 
Rover you sort of get the feeling that if they dropped the big one; it would 
only blister the paint a little."  So I guess I'm saying...if you need a 
logical justification to get one, then you just don't want one enough.

I too have had a relationship with an Isuzu, it was an '86 Trooper.  Fine 
vehicle, reliable, quiet, fairly tough, practical, clean lines, comfortable. 
 And it would go 95% of the places I might go (off-road) in the Land 
Rover...but NO charisma, charm or personality.  And when it went away it was 
not a loss.  Similarly, wife has a 92 Mitsubishi Montero...leather seats, 
V6, ABS, sunroof, air-locking rear diff, traction control, etc. and it's a 
really nice car to drive the 1K miles to Moab....but once I'm there I want 
my L-R.

All my L-Rs have been totally stock (this is not a slam to any conversions 
here) cause I never found a need to change anything.  And, here's the big 
one for me: in about a half million miles of LandRoving (in Iceland, Moab, 
Canada and just about everywhere else west of the Rockies)....I've NEVER had 
to walk home!

Good luck with your choice.

Gerry 72 88

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:19:44 -0500
Subject: Re: electrical woes

Mike writes-
snip
   they are all secure to the chassis, your problem WILL 
   go away. Don't give up yet! Or just go buy a D90 and the
   problem will also go away.
snip

the problem won't go away with a D90, you are just
putting it off for about 20 years ;-)

Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                               Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA
508-373-1788 (W)                                508-521-4093 (H)
508-521-1380 (FAX)
===--===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--===
1969 IIA SWB - The Wayback Machine
Now with most of the Federally requred electrics!

Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway!
What will they think of next!

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:46:19 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Land Rover Defender 110's, etc.

Stephen, 

I found your posting on the British Cars list.  As a future reference, I'd 
suggest that Land-Rover questions my be more productively asked of the LRO 
(Land-Rover-Owner) list (lro@team.net).  If you are interested in joining 
the list, I'll send you info on how to do so.

Regarding importing a Defender 110 or 130:  If, as you are informed, the 
Swiss-spec vehicles are really comparable to U.S.-spec, then it might not be 
too bad but that's relative.  A friend of mine imported a 1990 Turbodiesel 
110 which was full Camel Trophy spec.  And he had a lot of grief and expense 
to do so.  It can be done but can cost maybe $5,000 on top of the purchase 
price, shipping, and duty.  And take maybe two or three years to put it all 
together.  

The only way I know of to pull it off is to work with a specialist firm 
which handles this sort of transaction.  When the vehicle comes to the U.S. 
port, it will be placed in impound, then can be gotten out by the specialist 
in U.S. certification.  He takes it to his shop and does whatever he does, 
including dealing with the various federal and state authorities.  My friend 
(Domingos Dias by name) lives in California and of course that is a 
worst-case scenario.  Some states are much easier.  But you still gotta 
satisfy the feds.  It seems that the slightest deviation from U.S. specs (in 
the case of a Defender 110, from the specs of the actual model imported to 
the U.S.) can cause major hassles.  When I last spoke to Domingos (last 
July) he had had the 110 in his possession awhile but was still not "out of 
the woods" with the feds.

If you wish to talk with Domingos, I will give you his phone number.

This is about the sum total of what I know on the subject.  I would be very 
interested to be kept abreast of what you learn, as you go along.  If you 
really do go through with this process, it would be of considerable interest 
for you to post messages regularly on the LRO list.  Any number of folks on 
the list want to know all there is to know about this.

>I'm wondering if anybody has any knowledge on obtaining Land Rover  Defender
>110's, 130's or High Capacity Pick-ups and importing them to the United
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
>Stephen Loosli
>AshtonLand@aol.com

Hope this helps!
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[ G.B.Pool(Redwood Vly, CA, USA)Appraiser,R/W Agent,Land-Rover aficionado ]
[ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ]

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:47:24 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Rambo Lambo

Paul,

The Lamborgini you describe is much akin to the Hummer and was originally 
built to the U.S. spec, in cooperation with (I think) Curtis-Wright, to 
compete for the contract that eventually went to AM General.  As such, it 
was originally called the Cheetah (I even have a Tomy diecast model of a 
Lamborgini Cheetah, in Zebra-stripe dress).

The "production" version, as sold in the U.S., was known as LM002, commonly 
pronounced "le moo two."  It is also known as the "Rambo Lambo" and does 
indeed have the Lamborgini V-12 engine.  As spec'd for the military trials, 
thought, as I recall, it was equipped with a Chrysler V-8 (been a long time, 
so I don't remember for sure).  

The LM002 weighs a good 6,000 and change, similar to the Hummer.  I doubt 
that its suspension is up to the Hummer's standards (Hummers have portal 
axles--the only ones I know of on a fully articulated, a-arm-type, 
independent suspension). I don't thinks very many LM002s were sold in the 
U.S. because it was a bit of a beast in comparison with the Range Rover and 
cost more than twice as much.

>        Roverphiles,
>        Some recent chat on this newsgroup about Hummers led me to recall
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 20 lines)]
>       || to host a habachi bar-be-que party is
>       || around a Land Rover's bonnet  
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[ G.B.Pool(Redwood Vly, CA, USA)Appraiser,R/W Agent,Land-Rover aficionado ]
[ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ]

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:13:03 EST
From: William Dan Terry <wterry@sartre.minerva.bah.com>
Subject: carb probs?

I recently got my first LR, a '65 IIA 109SW with a camper top. 
Unfortunately, it was not represented well by the seller, who was 
really into LR (had 3 there and regularly brings them into the 
States). Half the things which were in "fine" shape had to be 
replaced. Desperate for one and not knowing enough made me a sucker 
buyer. I've spent almost again what I paid for it just getting it up 
for inspection; new everything brakes, new seals on all axels, new 
front ball axel-steering joints (whatever they're called), cracked 
head after a month of very little driving. This was meant to be my 
daily driver, which the seller well knew. No calls returned even on 
the first message asking what weight oil it takes since it was low.

I'm planning on living with it for now, and maybe some attention, 
although without sinking much money into it, might work it out. I am 
having a strange problem since I got it back after the head job. The 
engine in normal use balks as if it has water in the fuel or such, 
but when I pull the choke out halfway it works fine. Does anyone 
have any sage advice, or even educated guess, which I may be able to 
try to fix it? I've never spent much time with carbs, and besides 
theory, don't really know the specific details of their workings. I 
do have the Hanes book.

TIA

Peace, Bill
'65 IIA 109SW "Antichrist" after "The Gods Must Be Crazy" and all 
the trouble we've had.

_____W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y______

  How do we acquire wisdom   wterry@sartre.minerva.bah.com
  along with all these            MINERVA Development Team
  shiney things? (David Brin)       Booz, Allen & Hamilton 
_____ __ __ __ __ __ __ _____ __ __ _____ __ __ __ __ ______
     W  i  l  l  i  a  m     D  a  n     T  e  r  r  y

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:58:25 EST
From: William Dan Terry <wterry@sartre.minerva.bah.com>
Subject: lambo

I don't remember specifics, but there were a couple of versions of 
Lambo four-wheelers.

The first was the Cheetah. Very "exotic" in that it had a mid-engined 
configuration. It had one small problem that the designers 
overlooked. It had problems with front tire grip going up serious 
hills, even threatening to roll over backwards. It never hurts to 
determine the real requirements before designing something.

The LMA was the next invocation. Some 7-liter V12, 500+bhp, 125mph 
top, 60+mph over rough terrain, special tires with treads that went 
halfway up the sides for sand and such. Sales in the Mid-East. I 
don't particularly like Lambos, much preferring Lotuses for 
sports-cars (my favorite by far) and LR for off-road (again my 
favorite by far), but I did like the looks of this thing. It looked 
like it was meant to go. Supposedly pretty decent, though reviews I 
read were in MotorTrend and such, not off-road zines.

The last version I recall was, as mentioned earlier, the LM02. To 
import this, it had a Chrysler engine (Lambo was owned by Chrysler at 
the time). Seen a couple a while ago, but not for a long time.

Peace, Bill

_____W__i__l__l__i__a__m_____D__a__n_____T__e__r__r__y______

  How do we acquire wisdom   wterry@sartre.minerva.bah.com
  along with all these            MINERVA Development Team
  shiney things? (David Brin)       Booz, Allen & Hamilton 
_____ __ __ __ __ __ __ _____ __ __ _____ __ __ __ __ ______
     W  i  l  l  i  a  m     D  a  n     T  e  r  r  y

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:54:17 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Rambo-Lambo

WRT the thread on the Lambourghinis...it was the LM002, aka the "Rambo
Lambo".  These things came equipped with 20" tires which cost something
like $600 a pop, but then if you can afford $100K+ for a vehicle, $600 for
a flat is chump change.  Drove next to one in my Rover one time...the folks
inside, instead of acting snobby and such, actually seemed to appreciate
the look of the Rover...though they didn't go so far as to wave.

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From: C Taylor Sutherland III <taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu>
Subject: Lambo SUV
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:28:54 -0500 (EST)

I saw that thing on something like beyond 2000 or some such.  It
looked like a cross between a Hummer, a Nissan Pathfinder, a De'Lorien
and my butt.  Had the raised differential like the Hummer, the shape
of the Pathfinder, and the brushed aluminum finish of the D'Lorien.

Pretty wild looking...and pretty wild price.

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From: Kumaravel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Hummers and More Ostentation
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:36:37 -0600 (CST)

>Subject: Re: Hummers and More Ostentation
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:50:24 +0000 (GMT)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>none
>Wasn't it something like LM02 or am I getting confused

You are almost correct.  It had one more "0".  It was the LM002.

>V12 yes, 4 wheels

And a governor limited top-speed of 120 MPH for getting across those
sand dunes a little faster than your neighbor's camel.

>>         Anyways, I assumed Lambo's SUV was destined for a market of
>> well-heeled suburbane guerrillas in need of an all-terrain vehicle that
>> revvs to 8,000 rpm....real necessary for those white-knucked assaults on
>> shopping mall speed bumps. 

The first one I saw in the skin was when I was in college, in (you
guessed it) a shopping mall in a suburb of Cleveland, OH.

The next time I saw one was in a Lamborghini dealership in a
rather well-to-do suburb nearby (Barrington, IL).  But the dealership
either went out of business, or got smart and changed their product,
because now it has been replaced by a LAND ROVER dealership.

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From: sohearn@InterServ.Com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:41:36 PST
Subject: Re: 	*Bah, Humvee!*

Jim writes about Hummer woes. I've heard that the transmissions are the
weak link but this was second-hand. I'd be interested in the problems
mentioned by those Hummer owners as a guy at work is intent on buying one.

I can definitely understand service being a problem: no trained mechanics
and an 800 number is no substitute. Might be a good business opportunity
for some former U.S. Army mechanics.

- Stephen

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Stephen O'Hearn            1994           LAND-            Tread Lightly |
| El Segundo, CA, USA      DEFENDER           -ROVER         on Public and |
| sohearn@interserv.com       90        The Best 4x4xFar     Private Lands |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:29:19 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Starter switch (solenoid)

All, 

I think I have a problem with my starter switch. Here's why.

I have attached alternator and battery lead to battery input side of the 
switch. Attached output to starter. Connected ignition switch. Turn it and 
nothing. I have power to the input. I can place a screwdriver over the 
terminals and the starter fires !!! Any agree that the solenoid is broken ???? 
Or is it more dreaded LUCAS problems again ???? Or have I wired this sucker up 
wrong !!!!!! 

By the way, I'm still searching for my bad earth in my lights. Now as soon as 
I turn on the ignition, all the lights come on ! I'll get there in the end. 

Mark  

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Date: 10 Feb 95 20:18:56 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: digest friday

Richard     When trying to free up your track rod ends, DO NOT HEAT the tube.
lack of care in this operation can result in a change in the metals structure
and subsequent failure.

  Slide the clamp clip well away from the end of the tube,  place the tube end
flat on a solid surface so that the rod overhangs the end, then  align the slots
in the tube with the horizontal centre line and using a bras or copper mallet
strike the tube end, this will have the effect of moving the thread faces
slightly, turn the tube and bash it all the way round, this shock treatment will
loosen up the threads, the tube must be laid flat on something solid,  i.e the
vice extension if it is on a good bench, a blacksmiths anvil is perfect. I have
a 12"  piece of girder that I keep for such things. 
   A modification of this shock technique also works in removing the  rod end
from the steering arm,  if you take two similar size hammers and simultaneously
strike both sides of the steering arm end where the rod fits,several times the
end will just 'pop' out  ( if you remove the nut first )
 I have used this  technique  on the ocean floor when trying to salvage parts
from a wreck that laid on the bottom for years

  The ser 3 brake and servo assembly will bolt directly to a ser 2 but it is
necessary to cut out a part of the wing top, this is covereb by the hood.

   Regards   Bill Leacock     Limey in exile

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 17:22:04 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: 88" Series III

> Internal electrical system for say spotlights and phones...(Y/N)

Up to you, really.  My '59 109" has three power outlets in the "glovebox" 
at the front that I use for any three of: CB Radio, CelPhone, Spotlight, 
portable video game (yes, I'm a computer nerd), radio, laptop computer 
(boy, am I a computer nerd or *what*?), etc.  There's three more just 
behind the driver's seat (on top of the cabinets, if they're in) for more 
stuff.  

> Possibility for a cheap radio...(Y/N)

My '72 88" has a radio sorta just sitting there.  I want to build an 
overhead box-thingie in my 109" for a radio, celphone, CB, GPS, etc.  I've 
seen some really nice ones done.  Brad Blevins has a really cool setup (I'm 
gonna do an article in an upcoming Aluminum Workhorse on his.)

> How expensive is it (average) to have a V8 put in an 88" or does it
>       just not fit or is the general opinion "who would want it now"
>       hold?

Dunno about cost, but Scotty's son Andrew has a sIII 88" with a V8 in it.  
Rumour is that he's gotten it up to 100mph up in the Black Rock desert.

> How noisy is noisy?  My Blazer gets noisy and I couldn't hear myself
>       in our '82 Toy LC.

Depends on the vehicle.  Some are really noisy, and some are quite 
reasonable.  Tires, Overdrive, and engine all make a difference.  When I 
switched from macho-big-lug-I'm-a-man tires to radial dual-purpose tires, 
the difference was very noticeable.  If I cruise at 55 or so in 4th-OD, 
it's quite quiet.  Unfortunately, I have a lead foot and have trouble going 
that slow, except maybe in school zones.  8^O  At 70-75 in 4th-OD, you have 
to talk loud (or turn the radio up) but it's not unbearable.  My engine 
(petrol) is pretty quiet, though.

> drive it 160 miles home, then I should expect to change the water
> heater and some belts and hoses and all the fluids twice just so I

Well...  This depends on two things:  The vehicle and the Previous Owner 
(PO).  Yes, you can find a vehicle in top notch condition that you don't 
have to do anything to except fill it with gas and check the oil.  But, 
most PO's are nitwits (even if they're your best friend), and they've done 
something really silly.  The very nature of the Land Rover means that 
people tend to tinker with them, and then there's a good chance that 
something's gonna be fouled up.  

If you buy a vehicle that has just finished being restored, or one that is 
a daily driver, no, you probably won't need to do major repairs on the way 
home.  But, I think that someone who is selling a vehicle may say to 
themselves, "I'm selling it, I'm not gonna bother replacing that flaky wire 
to the backup light" or whatever.  So there may be somethings that the PO 
has let go for a while, knowing that they're just gonna sell it anyway.

But, remember, if you keep a cool head and know a little something about 
working on cars, a Land Rover will *always* get you home.  I've had my 
troubles, but every time, I either was able to get home, or I should have, 
had I stayed calm and thought about it.  When I bought my first Land Rover, 
I could change a tire.  Period.  Since then, I've learned a fair bit, but 
most of what folks talk about here still goes right over my head.  Even so, 
I feel quite confident about taking my Land Rover just about anywhere.  I 
may have to call Scotty to ask what the problem is, or how to fix (or get 
around) it, but I know I can get home.  

> Finally, how do these things drive up mountains?  Will I be forced to
> fall in behind the Mayflower tractor trailer or will I be able to
> reach 55?

Depends on the motor, OD or no, etc.  My 109" has gotten up to 85mph, but I 
don't really feel comfortable over 70-75 (3000-3500 rpm, 4-OD).  But, going 
up hills, I have trouble, sometimes having to shift to 3rd, no OD, and yes, 
once, I was passed by a VW microbus...  But, it will get you up the hills. 
 I have the original 4cyl 2.25l engine, btw.

> if not a learning experience.  ...I really need to learn more about
> fixing cars....  Sheesh!

Remember also, you're not just buying a car, you're buying a way of life.  
You instantly have a huge network of friends to rely on. 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         When you own a Land Rover, 
sinasohn@crl.com                         You have friends you've never met.
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:41:28 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

This might be a repeat since I am not sure which address you reply to on 
the digest but---for those asking about using a dual master with the Land 
Rover servo, go ahead.  I use this setup and I use an Ambassador by 
American Motors master.  It bolts right up to the servo and the only 
problem seems to be that the little nylon insert which attaches the hose 
to the servo hits the edge of the top cover of the master.  This isn't a 
big problem however and I simply use a screwdriver to force the bail over 
the top when I want to close it.  No problem with the brake action has 
been noticed.  I have done this to a number of my Rovers and it works 
just fine not to mention the very low cost for a master at the wrecking 
yard. Dave VE4PN

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From: Kelly Minnick <minnick@joker.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Misc
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 22:43:47 PST

> On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Kelly Minnick wrote:
none
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
> 	soon after.  However, the rims do sound rather nice.  Wanna trade?
> 	Mine look pretty hideous, covered in rust, 90wt etc...
> 	Rgds,
I've been kicking this tube thing around.  I have a few Blazer (chevy - I know)
friends (?) who have the 16.5" rims with no bead catcher.  They don't run tubes
and their vehicles are a lot heavier than mine!  I run 25 psi bias ply (10 ply
sidewall rating) and don't see a prob. unless I deflate?. Yes? No?  Can of
worms I know.  Need some of those early D90 steel wheels!
Kelly Minnick  '73 88" Safari
Ridgecrest, CA

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