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1 | bfreeman@heartland.bradl | 27 | cont. For Sale |
2 | John Gardener [J.Gardene | 7 | [not specified] |
3 | kleihors@prl.philips.nl | 48 | Mark's brake-lights and my braking system. |
4 | William Caloccia [calocc | 11 | [not specified] |
5 | maloney@wings.attmail.co | 61 | Rich's brakes |
6 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 33 | Why a D90. |
7 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 33 | Why a D90. |
8 | afpgreg@gatekeeper.ddp.s | 27 | Hummers and More Ostentation |
9 | azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo | 26 | Re: Diesel woes!!! |
10 | azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo | 23 | Re: Hummers(Hummve) (+) |
11 | Richard Jones [rich@apri | 32 | [not specified] |
12 | C Taylor Sutherland III | 29 | 88" Series III |
13 | mtalbot@InterServ.Com (M | 19 | Re: My Brake lights |
14 | "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" [7 | 23 | digest 9th feb |
15 | Mike Fredette [mfredett@ | 21 | [not specified] |
16 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 25 | From the book of Generator |
17 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 23 | Re: Matchbox Land Rover Fire Engine |
18 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 54 | [not specified] |
19 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 76 | [not specified] |
20 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 16 | [not specified] |
21 | Keerock2@aol.com | 27 | D90 Advert |
22 | jpappa01@InterServ.Com | 30 | Re: *Bah, Humvee!* |
23 | Marty Purselley [martypu | 6 | [not specified] |
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 02:28:07 CST From: bfreeman@heartland.bradley.edu (Benjamin Freeman) Subject: cont. For Sale Ben Freeman here again on my for sale ad sorry that I didn't put more info. It is as follows. asking price is $9,000.00 US$ but will neg. of course aslo includes my 109 box bed trailer. But will seperate at small deduction. My mailing address is: Benjamin Freeman, 13739-Linden Ave. N. #C-102, Seattle, WA 98133 I can also be reached at the previously mentioned phone # or by e-mail of course, but my e-mail box isn't very big and as such some mail isn't recieved some times. I'll also mention that I'm unemployed at this time, and getting merried in June, an what else can I say..oh, my fiancee' isn't all that receptive to my Land Rover affliction...so I thought I'd push the envelope and get my RHD 109 SIII before I get hitched an she get full control of my life not that she already doesn't for those of you how've already met me and my future bride...I'd be happier marring the Land Rover of course but I think there's a law against that..? Oh well to my friends any help would be most helpfull. I'll answer any questions about my Landy with total honesty. So feel free to ask away..:) Good luck to you all as well..... Benjamin Freeman '73-SIII 88 "Joanna" ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Problems with brake lights Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 08:57:20 +0000 From: John Gardener <J.Gardener@fulcrum.co.uk> Check the earths on the tail lights. You get this sort of problem when ONE of them is lost. ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: kleihors@prl.philips.nl Subject: Mark's brake-lights and my braking system. Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 11:36:59 MET Mark, >When I hit the brake pedal, the front side lights and brake/side lights come >on, when I put the side lights on, all the side lights come on as they should. >However, the brake lights also come on ! Looks like there is a common earth point for the all rear lamps which is loose/corroded. You're right now all the lights are in the same system. Good luck! Thanks Bill and nigel for the advice for the steering adjustment. I guess lengths don't say anything; just checked with the '60 "88 steering arm and its even longer, but the steering geometry of this car is perfect. I will be working on it this weekend, yes I do have new tie-rods, actually have a dozen or so. The previous owner was with the army and apparently, so he says..., he always got surplus parts. Right now I'm fighting (WD40) to remove the worn tierods from the steering shaft. Its in the benchvise, but those buggers are seized. Among the pile of stuf are a couple of master brake cylinders. Including servos. Some are complete with the mounting box and brake pedal They are presumably from a series III. At this moment, the LWB has a single braking system with the "Girling CV" type of master (isn't this exactly the same as the clutch's?). I'm feeling a littlebit scary with this heavy vehicle in the busy traffic, so I'm contemplating switching to dual lines. Is this a regular swap? Will one of those dual line systems (complete with pedal) bolt in, or will I have to chop up the wing, bonnet and bulkhead? I'm not sure if I would like to go to servo assistance. (I don't fancy isolated toe-touch braking). The dual line master cylinders in the pile are al for servo assistance, could I try to fit one of those in-place of the single line versions, after relocating the bolt holes? Do I need one of those brake-line differential units or are the front/rear brakes on the 109" well ratioed? Probably this braking subject has been discussed to death, but if anyone has any suggestions/conclusions/ideas please mention them. Its a strange thing how tiny our Mini looks, even behind the 88" take care, Richard P. Kleihorst. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: 'modified' rovers... Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 05:50:20 -0500 From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com> Well, in the finest tradition, check out the specs on this recently advertised trails motor (from the Feb. '95 "Bottom Box" newsletter of Pennine LRC): Series I bodied 88" coil sprung special fitted with Rover 2L 16v twin cam (rover 820) engine, 1-ton gearbox, white 8 spokes on trackers, power steering, full comp spec. with ARC log book, won NORC championship 3 times. Very, very competitive and reliable 2,500 GBP ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 09:21:07 -0500 From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney) Subject: Rich's brakes Rich asked: none Right now I'm fighting (WD40) to remove the worn tierods from the steering shaft. Its in the benchvise, but those buggers are seized. none That's the best place to tackle it. With the tie rod end in the vise, clean as much of the rust off the end as possible with a wire brush, then soak it in penetrating oil (WD-40 is ok, ATF doesn't evaporate as much. Let it sit overnight (guess you already have). Then, heat the end as much as possible (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating oil lying about). Using a pipe wrench an inch or so away from where you think the end of the threaded tie rod is, away from the tie rod, turn one way, then the other, back & forth. Keep an eye on the tube to make sure it doesn't twist or deform. This will put teethmarks in the tube, but I can't think of a kinder way to do it. I had one snap off in the tube once. I took it down to my machine shop and asked him to drill, tap it, and thread a bolt in (this was a left hand tie rod end). He heated the tube to a cherry red and used an impact wrench to turn the bolt in, which turned the tie rod out. I was one happy camper (didn't have to spend $70 for the tie rod or lay the Rover up for the weekend). (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating At this moment, the LWB has a single braking system with the "Girling CV" type of master (isn't this exactly the same as the clutch's?). (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating Yes. The early type is the same. (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating I'm feeling a littlebit scary with this heavy vehicle in the busy traffic, so I'm contemplating switching to dual lines. Is this a regular swap? Will one of those dual line systems (complete with pedal) bolt in, or will I have to chop up the wing, bonnet and bulkhead? (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating It's worked well for some, but not for others. If you have a IIA, you will have to cut away a portion of the wing to make the master cylinder fit (if your headlamps are in the radiator breakfast). (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating Do I need one of those brake-line differential units or are the front/rear brakes on the 109" well ratioed? (taking care not to set your workbench on fire if there's still penetrating No. You will need a junction block for a dual braking system. I have a single circuit servo system on my 109. It works pretty well. Not overly touchy. But I'd get some more advice before making the swap. I know what you mean about driving a 109 in heavy traffic. Really sucks. I try to avoid it. Bill maloney@wings.attmail.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 08:06:10 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Why a D90. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Why a D90. George, I don't have a D90, but I do own a Discovery, which is the same running gear, engine, trans (if a 5-speed) except I have an automatic. I don't know exactly what it is, but the LR performs FAR SUPERIOR to a stock trooper, and I'd even go as far as saying ANY other stock vehicle. I've been out with a friend and his Trooper, and needed to pull him out WHEN he got stuck (not "if") and when he'd go up a loose rocky steep incline with lots of ruts, he'd get stuck, and I had to wait at the bottom of the hill for several minutes while he reversed, turned, spun the tires, sprayed rocks, etc... Then, I'd just "walk right up" with absolutely NO problem. One time, I even stopped dead in the same place he had trouble, then started up again with no problems. It's a combination of the wheel articulation, tires, (admittedly, his were a little worn, but not that bad.) and the locking "differential" transfer case. (This, when locked, divides power equally between front and rear.) I've owned "Jeeps" and Scouts in the past, but never again! (Unless it's "dirt cheap" and I want something to trash.) #=======# Never doubt that a small group of individuals |__|__|__\___ can change the world... indeed, it's the only | _| | |_ |} thing that ever has. "(_)""""""(_)" -Margaret Mead ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 08:06:11 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Why a D90. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Why a D90. George, I don't have a D90, but I do own a Discovery, which is the same running gear, engine, trans (if a 5-speed) except I have an automatic. I don't know exactly what it is, but the LR performs FAR SUPERIOR to a stock trooper, and I'd even go as far as saying ANY other stock vehicle. I've been out with a friend and his Trooper, and needed to pull him out WHEN he got stuck (not "if") and when he'd go up a loose rocky steep incline with lots of ruts, he'd get stuck, and I had to wait at the bottom of the hill for several minutes while he reversed, turned, spun the tires, sprayed rocks, etc... Then, I'd just "walk right up" with absolutely NO problem. One time, I even stopped dead in the same place he had trouble, then started up again with no problems. It's a combination of the wheel articulation, tires, (admittedly, his were a little worn, but not that bad.) and the locking "differential" transfer case. (This, when locked, divides power equally between front and rear.) I've owned "Jeeps" and Scouts in the past, but never again! (Unless it's "dirt cheap" and I want something to trash.) #=======# Never doubt that a small group of individuals |__|__|__\___ can change the world... indeed, it's the only | _| | |_ |} thing that ever has. "(_)""""""(_)" -Margaret Mead ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 10:19:09 -0500 From: afpgreg@gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us (Paul V. Gregory) Subject: Hummers and More Ostentation Roverphiles, Some recent chat on this newsgroup about Hummers led me to recall that Lamborghini imported an exotic SUV some ten years ago. What were they called? How long were they imported? I witnessed a gaggle of them in a New Jersey warehouse (all window stickered with EPA gas mileage estimates beginning with decimal points) parked alongside even more Lambo Countachs. I believe they both used the same 12-cylinder engine, and I have a vague notion the SUV had six-wheels, but I may be wrong (I was at the time more awestruck by the sight of dozens of the low-flying winged Countachs). Anyways, I assumed Lambo's SUV was destined for a market of well-heeled suburbane guerrillas in need of an all-terrain vehicle that revvs to 8,000 rpm....real necessary for those white-knucked assaults on shopping mall speed bumps. Snobbishly, --Paul, '61 S.II-A owner || Real ute owners know an excellent place || to host a habachi bar-be-que party is || around a Land Rover's bonnet ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Diesel woes!!! Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:38:09 UNDEFINED / The other weekend I was driving along, when all of a sudden there /was a load knock comming from the motor. So I got towed home, and pondered /the dint in the pocket that this knock was going to cause. Turns out /that the pin that stops the combustion chamber from spinning round had /planted it self on the top of no. 2 piston. But how can that happen I /hear you say, as the pin is held in by the head gasket and the block! Lucky. It is apparently common for the little indirect combustion chamber to fall into the piston on the 2.25s. This happened to a freind of mine and a conrod came thru the block. New engine time :( I am told the 2.5NAs in the 90 have had this fixed by a liillte lip round the top of the barrel? Got my fingers crossed. Whatever. Apparently if you hear a little bell in the engine (Like light pinking) STOP NOW. Its trying to warn you...... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway +++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Hummers(Hummve) (+) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:42:08 UNDEFINED /To add to this growing bit of trivia, there was an AP (I think) photo in /the local rag last week showing a long column of Jordanian Army Humvees /doing their thing in the desert. The best and most interesting part was /the Land Rover 90 leading the whole thing. No fool, that commanding /officer. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (sorry) As I understand it, the hummers are excellent except for two things. The monster weight makes em sink in tarmac, adn the monster width makes em get stuck between continental plates. Much like the Series one is a better offroad trialer than the 90............. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway +++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Hummers and More Ostentation Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:50:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Jones <rich@apricot.co.uk> Paul V. Gregory writes: > Roverphiles, > Some recent chat on this newsgroup about Hummers led me to recall > that Lamborghini imported an exotic SUV some ten years ago. What were they > called? How long were they imported? none Wasn't it something like LM02 or am I getting confused > I witnessed a gaggle of them in a New Jersey warehouse (all window > stickered with EPA gas mileage estimates beginning with decimal points) [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > but I may be wrong (I was at the time more awestruck by the sight of dozens > of the low-flying winged Countachs). V12 yes, 4 wheels > Anyways, I assumed Lambo's SUV was destined for a market of > well-heeled suburbane guerrillas in need of an all-terrain vehicle that > revvs to 8,000 rpm....real necessary for those white-knucked assaults on > shopping mall speed bumps. -- _ __ Apricot Computer Limited Tel: (+44) 21 717 7171 ' ) ) / 3500 Parkside Fax: (+44) 21 717 0123 /--' o _. /_ Birmingham Business Park / \_<_(__/ <_ BIRMINGHAM B37 7YS Email: richardj@apricot.co.uk Richard Jones United Kingdom ..!uknet!apricot!richardj ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: C Taylor Sutherland III <taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu> Subject: 88" Series III Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 12:07:44 -0500 (EST) Thanks for the faq that I got mailed to me. There's just a couple more questions I have: Drum brFrom lro-owner Thu Feb 9 22:06:21 1995 id AA08411; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:03:58 PST id AA03459; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 14:01:58 -0800 id AA05207; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 14:03:28 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 14:03:28 +0800 From: William.Grouell@Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Subject: Re: Rich's brakes X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII none Right now I'm fighting (WD40) to remove the worn tierods from the steering shaft. Its in the benchvise, but those buggers are seized. none And when you put the new ones in, smear a good dose of antisize (sp?) compound on the threads. That way you won't have this problem the next time. R, bg ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:49:11 PST From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot) Subject: Re: My Brake lights All, Another atempt to track down this lighting problem. I wired from the switch to the brake lamps directly, passing all exisiting wires, pressed the switch, all the side lamps came on. Ran a seperate lead from the switch to the lamps, and directly to the fuse, again all side lamps came on ????? I have basically removed all exisiting wiring and still the problem exisits, the only common wiring here is the RED side lamp wiring to all side lamps, that is dual to the brake lamps. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 09 Feb 95 18:18:21 EST From: "WILLIAM L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com> Subject: digest 9th feb Kelly The stock Rover steel rims are NOT tubeless, when the rims were designed pre 1948 they did not have tubeless tyres. There is a risk of air loss round the rivets securing the rim to the nave plate and the rim design is not to the required standard. You have been lucky so far, long may you be so, be careful off road, particularly if you run the tyres at low pressure for traction. Re brake light problems; check the earth connections in the brake light circuit, if the connectionis bad the current will flow down the path of least resistance which will then be the normal light circuit. Check al the wiring connections at the rear of the UK drivers side chassis, they get sprayed with all the road dirt from the rear wheels. A good tip is to extend all the connections up into the body inside the rear corner cap that covers the inside of the rear lights. Jason -- re your speedo request,refer to the digest of 1/5/95 in which I gave some info on this topic. Regards Bill Leacock Limey in exile ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: My Brake lights Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 15:23:39 -0800 From: Mike Fredette <mfredett@ichips.intel.com> Mark, You have a ground problem, or a lack of a good ground I should say. The same type of problem happened to me on my Series lll and this was the solution. Go through with a small stainless steel toothbrush (any hardware store) and remove all the corrosion from the ground connections. Remember that the boys at Lucas brought ground to each light individually and so if on get screwed up, it seeks to ground itself through another source. In your case, the marker lamp circuit. I swear that if you clean up all the ground connections, and verify that they are all secure to the chassis, you're problem WILL go away. Don't give up yet! Or just go buy a D90 and the problem will also go away. Rgds Mike Fredette Portland, Oregon D90 ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 19:07:45 -0800 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: From the book of Generator And Lucas said, "Let there be light!" And there was, occassionally, light. And Lucas said, "Let there be spark!" And there was, occassionally, spark. And Lucas said, "Let there be ground!" And there was, all too often, ground. And in His wisdom, Lucas gave the Land Rover the power of Fire, and though his reasoning may not be clear, we praise Him for it, and call His name, often. For truly it is written that Lucas moves in strange and mysterious ways. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 19:07:53 -0800 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Matchbox Land Rover Fire Engine > The ad makes no mention of these being available singly. Roger, where > did you hear about it? I heard about it in the Collectibles forum on Compuserve. There is a Diecast and Toys section where I am known as one of the Land Rover nuts. Anyway, there are some serious diecast collectors there and one of them (the section leader, actually) alerted me to it. I had no idea there was a subscription sort of thing. I just called up and asked for it. I will also ask about the Matchbox Collectibles outlets on the east coast. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: us rangers 110's From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 21:40:29 -0500 There has been alot of chat about hummers vs 110's. Lets get a few things straight here. there are horses for courses and there is the right tool for the job. The Rangers are an air mobile unit and any such unit has WEIGHT and SIZE as a big consideration. For those of you who care to listen the US Forces have been using Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Shorland SB401's, Defender 130's in various parts of the world for various reasons. In the UK they were at pains to belnd and subsequently drove vehciles with British Forces licence plates and markings. In Turkey the US has used Land Rover products for a number of years now. The Rangers were looking for a vehicle that would stow into their current airlift inventory and future aircraft in years to come. The 110 offered a proven light weight airportable compact vehicle. In the SOV role that the rangers use them for they can get at least 7 persons in a fully tooled up 110. It is equiped with a weapons ring that can take just about any weapon you consider to name. Using devices such as on the 110 Hi Cap patrol vehciles weapons platforms the suspension is locked out for really big calibre weapons. The 110 sov was intended for quick in and out operations over realitively short distances but need the kind of mobility that the smaller 110 offers while being able to be underslung to a number of aircraft or inside others. The Hummer is a designed vehcile in a different class to the 110. It is very heavy and not as manouerverable as the 110 and not take to kind of fit that the sov does, they just dont compare for the role, and that is the long and the short of it. Every vehilce that I know of can get stuck, even 110's. Alot has to do with the pink computer behind the wheel if the truth be known. I have pictures of 110's bogged in the Gulf, so what! See my point. As one who has driven a Hummer off road I take my hat off to the designers, it does a job, NOT ALL JOBS. Every vehcile has its limitations and this is why the Rangers bought the lighter 110's. Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Land Rover parts policies From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 21:57:48 -0500 I have been doing some work on the availability or non in some cases of parts. I have been trying to order the land Rover Experience, which was advertised in LRO and has a genuine part number to it. My local, and I beleive in supporting local bussiness, dealer parts man put the number through the computer and it did not register. I brought the advert in and he went to town trying to get it for me. Without naming names he got the true apathetic answers to his enquiries throught the parts chain. This was the laxadazical attitude that has long tarnished the LR name. Fed up I called Land Rover Parts in the UK direct myself and spoke to the head honcho on parts and got the full scoop. When LR was planning its come back into the NA market they readilly recognised the series owners as a market for parts, but they did not want to have their new vehcile dealers having to look after all of this market. They instead decided to establish approved dealers such as Rovers North in Vermont to deal with this market, because these types of dealers would offer the series owner the full orig spec parts and the aftermarket stuff and that was going to service the markket best. The premise that you can walk into ANY Land Rover dealer ANYWHERE in the world and order a genuine Land Rover part holds true today. The problem that you will encounter is that the dealer may not recognise the part number on his system. There are microfiches available to all dealers that give all the parts numbers that exist. In these you will find a plethora of parts that are not listed in the computer. That is the case here in NA for example. IF the dummies who run the system above the dealer level dont put the effort into traking it down then your dealer will never be able to supply what you want, that is what happened to me. So once again, ANY GENUINE LR PART IS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE, you just might not like the price. Sure the likes of Craddock in the UK might be able to get you a better price, I'm not disputing that. Some people for instance were asking recently about hood mounts for their spare tyres on 90's. When the Defender 90 was approved in the US the mount was put on the rear and that is how it is legally sold, same with the roll cage. What you do afterwards is your bussiness. There is no kit as such for the hood mount but all the parts are available individually through your local dealer 'cos guess what THEY ARE GENUINE LR PARTS. I have invested in the fiches for North American stock and non NAS type 90's and 110's which are available for about 10 bucks a pop up here, when I get a viewer I'll let you have the parts numbers. To sum up, push your dealer to get LRNA or LRC to do their job if you want the part. Have we put that one to bed now? Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: ex military trailers From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 22:15:24 -0500 For any one who has bought the Ex Canadian forces M100 series trailers I have parts manulas for them that give cross references for the various part numbers with varous civvy manufactures such as Chrysler etc email for more info Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Keerock2@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 22:47:19 -0500 Subject: D90 Advert Hi all, In the ongoing collection of LR media, a week or so ago someone mentioned an ad (cited as source unknown) featuring a D90 in the jungle with the subtitle "What to drive in places where you're the food .... While it's not exactly the least expensive 4x4, the Defender offers you that invaluable old English option. To be or not to be." I came across that ad quite by accident yesterday in the inside back cover of this month's (February) Esquire Magazine. A very sharp ad, really, featuring a fully-loaded yellow hardtop, slightly muddied for effect. First, though, you'll have to skip through the huge, glossy, overly-slick eight page Jeep centerfold advertising packet in the middle of the magazine (yuk). Shouldn't be a problem. And hey, a question for the UK folks: Why do English products always have the four "By Appointment To ..." crests displayed in their ads and packaging? My Orvis fly fishing gear has the same thing. -Dean Silliman -Lake Arrowhead, CA, USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:14:58 PST Subject: Re: *Bah, Humvee!* You know how all of the tall tales begin, right? *This is no bullsh*t*. But, this really is no bullsh*t. There lives a desert tan truck cab civilian humvee in my quaint little town of Scituate, Mass. It lives in a circular driveway in front of a house with a garage bigger than my house. I drive by it regularly in my 110 or the dealer 90. The other day, the humvee was parked tail towards the road. What do you suppose was stencilled and painted in black lettering on the tailgate? *IT'S A LEMON!* Yes, `tis true. I must get a photograph of this for the Rover Reference. But I'd better drive up to the house in my wife's Dodge. It wouldn't be sporting of me to do it in the Rover, no? I talked with another owner in my town (there are, gasp, about four of them in Scituate) and he spun an almost unbelievable story of woe concerning service problems with the vehicle and a quality control horror story that would make the worst Lucas stories pale into insignificance! Now, this is no bullshit... Cheerz Jim Roverheadus bahumveeum peesojunkoid ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Marty Purselley <martypur@bilbo.pic.net> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 95 22:13:51 -800 subscribe martypur@pic.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950211 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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