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From: Kelly Minnick <minnick@joker.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: Fuel Filler
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:44:13 PST

RE: Fuel filler
Sorry - just one more thing.  The fuel filler assembly I was going to get
from my buds 'part' vehicle was all rusted and partially broken.  Does anyone
know of another parts vehilce that wouldn't mind giving up it's right-hand
filler assembly in trade for some $$$ (needs to be somewhat reasonable)
It may be cheaper to track down here in the States if I can, since the 4 or
5 phone calls to UK could cost as much as the part over there!  They don't
seem to want to call ME back (wonder why?). Let me know
Kelly Minnick  '73 Safari
Ridgecrest, CA

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 08:49:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Tires....again

Sorry to flog a dead, or nearly dead horse.  The question remains though, 
what is the "largest" tire you can use on a 15" or 16" rim without causing 
problems?  No, I'm not a closet lift-kit/big engine/big Ford truckwith 
monster mudders/lots'o chrome and a union jack flapping in the breaze... 
person.  I'm not looking to put big wide tires on my 88 just tall ones.  
I have 16" rims and was looking at 235/85/16 size tires.  Just how tall 
can you go without running into problems? I understand how tires are 
sized ( what all the cute numbers mean) but I just need to know what is 
the tallest size that I can get away with.

Cheers from Pittsburgh
Russ 

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:10:48 -0500
Subject: Importing Land Rovers

Hi, am thinking of trying to buy and import a pre-1967 Land Rover to the US
next time I am in England. We saw the most gorgeous Carawagon last night at a
classic car show at a shopping mall in 
Phoenix, Arizona. We would like to look for something like that or at least a
109 that we can convert. Does anyone know what something like that would
cost, and what it would take, and cost, to import it to the US?? Any help
would be appreciated. Thanks

Chris W 
(There are cars, trucks, and 4wds, and then there are Land Rovers)

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@qvarsx.er.usgs.gov>
Subject: Importing Land Rovers
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 13:56:54 -0800 (PST)

>From lro-owner@uk.stratus.com Sun Feb  5 14:19:35 1995
From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 09:10:48 -0500
Subject: Importing Land Rovers

>Hi, am thinking of trying to buy and import a pre-1967 Land Rover to the
>US next time I am in England. We saw the most gorgeous Carawagon last
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>would take, and cost, to import it to the US?? Any help would be
>appreciated. Thanks

The January LRO International does list a few classifieds that may 
provide some insight.  In the Series IIA section there is a "Martin 
Walters Dormobile, 1961, taxed, full MoT, original valuable Reg, new 
doors with trim, new brakes and cylinders, FWH, spots, many new parts, 
wax oiled, vgc 3,200 (Eng. pounds) Tel 051-334-1484".  It appears that a 
lot of insight is required to figure the real value of the vehicle (like 
how much of the price is the old regisrtation plate?, and what are spots?)

There is also an ad for a Series III diesel.  "(K) Reg. Series III 
Carawagon, Limestone, 7 months MoT, Perkins 4203, 3.3 diesel, excellent 
chassis, usual Carrawagon extras - beds, bunks, cooker, cupboards, 
overdrive.  Reluctant sale, with great potential.  2,500 (Eng. pounds). - 
Tel: 061 432 3624".  Again, insight is required.  I don't know what year 
the K reg implies, or how firmly year and registration go together.  
Perhaps some of those in the know can give the list a systematic 
breakdown on that arcane body of knowledge.  

In theory, one should be able to bring a diesel LR into the US if built
before Jan. 1, 1975 or 1976.  I need to check up on that.  If it doesn't
have the original diesel type engine, I suppose it might affect its
importability. Hopefully somebody who has looked into this recently can
provide beter information. 

In addition, the same edition of LRO Int has an article (Part 2) on the 
history of Carawagon.  Part 1 appeared in December.

Walter Swain      1967 IIA 109 Safari SW
Davis, CA  USA           

Chris W 
(There are cars, trucks, and 4wds, and then there are Land Rovers)

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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 16:14:37 PST
Subject: Re: 	D90: AUTHENTICITY

To those who are questioning the diehardability of the Defender 90, let me add 
my two cents:

I have had a half dozen and still own 3 series Land Rovers of various styles. 
I love them and wouldn't part with any of them. The things which endear them 
to us are well known - even by non-owners and legions of wannabes.

The Defender 90? I will risk it all here and now and state emphatically that I 
believe that [it] is the penultimate result of all that embodies the Land 
Rover experience. The Defender 90? This is OUR beloved beast in modern trim. 
It is NOT a different car. Look at it for God's sake. The debate is pointless. 
All of the strengths are still there. Aluminum panels, simple functionality, 
hose-out interior, outstanding off-road performance. The weaknessess (most of 
them) have been banished. On-road performance. Poor heat, etc. What's 
different? Stone-reliable V8. 182 HP w/ 3675# curb weight. That means 80MPH in 
5th gear! Turning 2600 rpm! It means brakes that will launch you through the 
windscreen! It means constant 4wd w/easy diff-lock at the flick of a knob at 
speed. It means a heater that will make you sweat when it's zero farenheit 
outside. And (gasp) air conditioning if you live somewhere you need it. Air 
cond. that will basially pop ice cubes - its that strong. A cage that will 
protect you and the car in a rollover. The same beloved form-follows-function 
sheetmetal. A chassis which is heavier, has a drainage system, and is better 
protected than the series frames. Enclosed cv joints. Basic retro-bility of 
old addons will still fit these 90s as well. This car will cruise at 85 mph 
all day long in fifth gear. Stop like a sports car. Multi-top system. Is this 
kind of stuff not something that would appeal to a diehard? I think not! I 
think that the Defender 90 is a bargain - even at its tariff-swollen price 
tag. Nice series cars are all beginning to break over 10-grand - full restos 
into the teens. Reread the above performance parameters and then tell me that 
a brand new Land Rover is not price efficient. Who trades in a series car? 
Right - nobody. Same w/Defender 90. You suffer through the payment book - and 
then its yours, forever! And when they go away, and those who suddenly want 
one can't get one - you who will have yours will appreciate the retained value 
- just as all of us series owners have for DECADES! Getting the picture? I 
think that the Defender 90 is the finest Land Rover ever produced. And it will 
be a sad day when it goes away. Don't take my word for it. Just go drive one.

cheers
Jim
Roverheadus defenderatum berserkius
jpappa01@interserv.com

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:10:43 PST
From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot)
Subject: Re: Bleeding a SIII clutch

All, 

Put the engine and gearbox back in my SIII this weekend, yep even with 3 foot 
of snow on the ground !!! Put a heater in the garage and lots of coffee !!!

Anyway, I'm trying to bleed the clutch, with little or no success. Anyone 
tried the one-man-bleed-kit on the clutch system ??? 

Mark 

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From: EvanD103@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:14:52 -0500
Subject: Misc. Questions

Hi there!
     The resurrection of my 1973 Series 3 88" is proceeding more or less on
schedule.  After nearly 2 months of ownership I've had the frame sandblasted,
primed, and repainted.  It looks great.  The new steering relay and
suspension bushings were a lot easier to install than the old were to remove.
 Based on suggestions from others in this forum the relay was 'packed' in
grease before installation.  Someone will thank me for that in 20 years...
     Some questions:  I'd like to clean and paint the springs before
installing them with their new bushings.  Any suggestions on paint?  I'd hate
for it to flake off the first time they flexed.
I've disassembled the engine (only problem was beating out the seized pistons
- engine hasn't run in years), and need to start buying replacement parts.
 Anyone had experience replacing the 'Rube Goldberg' designed chain tensioner
with the newer alternative (looks like a conventional Reynolds pad type in
the literature)?  Do I only need the appropriate chain to go with it?
 Lastly, my oil pump is well worn and rusty (how can an oil pump rust?).
 I've come across 3 different part numbers for the assembly:  The Land Rover
parts book calls for RTC2554, Paddock in England lists ETC7054, and in the US
Rovers North and British Pacific list part # ERR1117.  Are these all the same
part for my 2.25 litre engine?  Any help would be appreciated.  
Sincerely,   Erik

Erik van Dyck
Stone Mountain, Georgia
1973 Ser.3  88 in pieces....

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From: UncleBrad@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 00:43:49 -0500
Subject: Those surplus110s & 90s

I finally got hold of an outfit in VA which is supposedly selling US Military
spec. Land Rover 110s & 90s (1992) which are still in the crates. This is an
equipment broker, as far as I can tell. 
I introduced myself as the editor of the Aluminum Workhorse magazine and told
him that I was interested in letting our readers know the real story on the
vehicles and perhaps even getting one myself (all true). The fellow I spoke
to said yes, there are a bunch of them here in the U.S. (450 somewhere in
Indiana) and more to come (for a total of 2000). And yes they could be
purchased in smallish lots, perhaps as small as 10 vehicles. 

I quizzed him about the vehicles, since there have been some conflicting
reports on the net. If you've been following this subject, you have many of
the other details which he (mostly) confirmed. I was, however, very
interested in whether they were cleared by the EPA & DOT.  And one of the
postings mentioned that some of the engines were 170hp, 6.5 liter diesel
V-8s. 

A friend of mine (who is a Land Rover enthusiast also) pointed out to me that
that was not one of Land Rover's engines. It was however the description of
the big GM engine which was put into Hummers & Suburbans. He also suggested
that this makes some sense in light of the fact that these vehicles are U.S.
Military spec vehicles which were probably bought for use in "Desert Storm"
where they would be in service right next to the U.S. Military Hummers. It
would actually be a smart move to have some commonality of parts in all the
vehicles out there. 

Well, it seems that the fellow I spoke to couldn't give me a satisfactory
answer to my EPA/DOT concern, although he tried. I spoke to his boss about it
and he gave me some B.S. about how all military vehicles are exempt from
these requirements. I can hear myself telling my local California DMV clerk
THAT! 

Half an hour later, I got a call from the broker asking me just where I got
my information. I told him that it has been one of the subjects on the net
for a couple of weeks and that I really couldn't tell where it all started.
Interestingly, he bagan to suggest that they might not want to have their
firm's name splashed around but that they would gather up the documentation &
information that I had requested and send it to me. He neglected to ask for
my address though. Did I say something wrong? I must have, because I had a
very strong feeling that I was never going to hear from these folks again. 

Robert Davis wrote of his research into this subject on Jan 18 and tells us
that there may be other companies out there who are selling these vehicles
too. He names a company called Autobus which was a company name in Europe but
not in this country to my knowledge.

And Andrew Wright has posted a message indicating that he is trying to pull
together a group of 25 interested buyers to purchase some of the vehicles. I
imagine he is in touch with a different company.

I am still interested this, so would greatly appreciate anything more that
anyone might have that could lead me to something solid.

See ya!

Brad Blevins

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 00:45:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bleeding a SIII clutch

Mark's bleedin' clutch.....

> Put the engine and gearbox back in my SIII this weekend, yep even with 3
> foot 
> of snow on the ground !!! Put a heater in the garage and lots of coffee

Garage? Heat!! Wimp!!  :)  I bled the clutch in Fern last winter with three
feet of snow around the truck!!

They *are* a pain in the arse, aren't they? Never tried the one-man bleed
kit thingie.. I did borrow a Mitey-Vac and had good results.. (You can
probably find one a K-Mart or Walmart - about $20) Also heard of people
priming the master cylinder... Never tried it, but it's supposed to help.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 00:57:00 -0500
Subject: South Africa

If there is anyone reading this who has contacts in South Africa who could
help me to locate a 1960-1966 vintage 109" in GOOD condition for use during
our family vacation there. This vehicle would be purchased with the idea of
exporting it to the US after our vacation. Please could they contact me at:
Sekerere@aol.com. We will be travelling to SA in June/July

Thanks

Chris W

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