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1 Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn18Re: Jacob's Electronics
2 "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du34Genesis redux
3 "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du34Genesis redux
4 Simon Hobson [simon@ccom22Re: D90 Questions
5 Simon Hobson [simon@ccom20Injection Pump setting
6 FHYap@aol.com 8Trailer Bargains
7 Keerock2@aol.com 16Defender Legitimate?
8 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.12Film
9 Steven M Denis [denis@o33Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
10 Steven M Denis [denis@o32Re: Injection Pump setting
11 rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.5[not specified]
12 Kelly Minnick [minnick@j48Genuine LR


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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 00:09:26 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Jacob's Electronics

I've heard of Jacob's, and what I've read (not much) seems to be positive. 
 The product that I'm most interested in of theirs is a doohickey that 
connects to the ignition with a spring-loaded toggle switch or pushbutton. 
 If you don't hit the button within 5 minutes (or something) after starting 
the engine, it stops and won't start again.  Sounds like a really neat 
anti-theft device.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Genesis redux
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 02:34:11 -0700 (MST)

Dixon is threatening to put Genesis in the FAQ, and he suggested that the 
proper context be established:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  And the earth 
was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the jeep.  
And God said, Let there be Land Rover; and there was Land Rover.  And God 
saw the Land Rover, that it was good; and God divided the Land Rover from 
the Toyota and the other abominations of darkness.

< And God said, It is not good that the Land Rover should 
< be alone.  And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Land Rover, 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
< (In the next lesson, we learn how Landy and Rangey had 2 sons, Def and 
< Disco, and how Disco killed Def -- ??)

More you say?  Well, Range Rover ate from the tree of BAE and fed some to 
Land Rover too, and God were none too pleased.  So he drove Land Rover 
out of the garden of England, and he placed at the east of England 
beemers which turned every which way.

As for the first murder, well, it can't be written until it happens.  So, 
we skip to the flood...  which brings us right up to the present day.

But I'm sure you are all exceedingly rapturous about the revelation that God 
drove a Land Rover.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Genesis redux
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 02:34:11 -0700 (MST)

Dixon is threatening to put Genesis in the FAQ, and he suggested that the 
proper context be established:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  And the earth 
was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the jeep.  
And God said, Let there be Land Rover; and there was Land Rover.  And God 
saw the Land Rover, that it was good; and God divided the Land Rover from 
the Toyota and the other abominations of darkness.

< And God said, It is not good that the Land Rover should 
< be alone.  And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Land Rover, 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
< (In the next lesson, we learn how Landy and Rangey had 2 sons, Def and 
< Disco, and how Disco killed Def -- ??)

More you say?  Well, Range Rover ate from the tree of BAE and fed some to 
Land Rover too, and God were none too pleased.  So he drove Land Rover 
out of the garden of England, and he placed at the east of England 
beemers which turned every which way.

As for the first murder, well, it can't be written until it happens.  So, 
we skip to the flood...  which brings us right up to the present day.

But I'm sure you are all exceedingly rapturous about the revelation that God 
drove a Land Rover.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 09:53:23 +0100
From: Simon Hobson <simon@ccomms.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: D90 Questions

>Questions for the Defender 90 Community:

>1.  Has anyone ordered one with the standard steel wheels?
>Are they the same as the UK Defender steel wheels?

The standard steel wheels on UK models are 5.50Fx16x33 and are not suitable
for tubeless use (they don't have the bead retention ridge that tubeless
tyres need for safety). Translated the figures mean 5 1/2" wide, 16" dia,
and 33mm offset (from mounting face to centre of tyre) - does anyone know
what the F means ?

TTFN, Simon

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| Simon Hobson - Carrier Communications Ltd                               |
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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 09:53:46 +0100
From: Simon Hobson <simon@ccomms.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Injection Pump setting

I run a 2.5Diesel 90 and have been given a Turbo kit for it. I figure it
should be possible to increase the fueling without going to a specialist -
can anyone tell me what the accessible controls on the injection pump do
(apart from the idle and max speed settings which I already know) ?

I'm not looking for ultra sophisticated matching between pump and turbo - I
assume that would require some 'expensive' alterations to the pumps
internals - just a bit more fuel to go with the increased airflow.

TIA, Simon

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From: FHYap@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 14:50:29 -0500
Subject: Trailer Bargains

Does anyone know if the Trailer Bargains mentioned by Pierce Reid on 2/2/95
are available in the vicinity of the SF Bay Area?

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From: Keerock2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 19:44:41 -0500
Subject: Defender Legitimate?

Thanks to many of you for the messages warning me of the can 'o worms I
reopened the other day when I asked whether a Defender is considered
legitimate by diehard LR fans.  Nothing like a little controversy in my first
submission.  ;-)

Then again, sounds like that debate's already been played out here on the
net.

-Dean Silliman
-Lake Arrowhead, Calif., USA

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 04:10:42 GMT
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Film

There is a "modern" version of Don Quixote (maybe by Graham Greene)
based around a dotty priest and his car.
A film was made of it with Alec Guiness and Leo MacKern ?
At some stage the Spanish police roll up in a L-R - a Santana of course.
Can anyone fill in any details such as the name of the film?

Lloyd

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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 23:45:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, William L. Grouell wrote:

> > a Chevy 250 truck motor under the bonnet.  Go figure......
>               ^^^^^
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
> her TR-3 because it has more power and parts are cheap? Maybe we better
> just leave it alone.
> R, bg> 

Sorry, I just have to jump in here.......I just spent 7 hrs. hauling a 
VW van through (make that *over*) the hills of Pennsilviania (sp?) and I 
was a wishin' and a beggin' for about 4 more liters..... That poor 109 
just was *FLOOGGED* the whole trip.....would I put a more powerful engine 
in there? *OH* Yeah!........Many of us cannot afford the Land Rover to 
have it only as a toy...It has to "earn" it's keep...If I had the Dodge 
Power Wagon with the Cummings TD job, *It* would have gone to Harrisburg 
and back...(400 foot-pounds?  What hills?) but I don't and I want the 
landy...so a repower is a logical idea....A Isuzu Trooper would have been 
a puddle of slag about 20 mins. into the trip...I live in the worst 
climate for automotive corrosion (per GM) so the aluminum body is a 
"Must"...Don't like to see them all cut up and panted yellow and pink, 
but a tidy engine swap is not the worst thing in the world....my 107 SW 
will have the original engine...and it will get towed to rover events 
behind a 110 with a V-8...*when* I can afford one...until then, it may 
get pulled behind a 109 w/ a V-8....
So I say keep 'em going anyway you can...and everyone should enjoy 
*their* ride and ignore the rest!....
steve

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 00:05:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Injection Pump setting

All 2.5L Diesel owers....*DO NOT* listen to this!

Ah ehm....Well....you have a Bosch "VE" series Pump or its licence 
equal...find the area of the pump where the fuel lines come out and go to 
the injectors...got it? this is a iron block thing....just forward of 
this is a little thingy with a wire on it..this is the shut-off 
solenoid...just up and toward the wing is a funny screw that has 
a slot in the end and a very small hex....there is a 13mm lock nut on it 
and a crimped metal band to limit how far the screw will go in...(this 
screw is in the same plane as the crank, ok?) this is the fuel delivery 
adjustment.....NEVER EVER EVER touch this.......*however* *IF* that band 
should rattle off... and the lock nut shake it self loose..and the bird 
of paridise should land on that screw and turn it *ever* so slightly 
in...this would cause excess fuel to be deliverd into the engine and it 
would be your job to fit a turbo to to supply the extra air....Ok?
"YOU DID NOT READ THIS HERE!"

Never said it...you mess with that pump and you die......

steve......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:23:51 MST
From: rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.com ( ROY CALDWELL )

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From: Kelly Minnick <minnick@joker.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: Genuine LR
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:36:51 PST

RE: Engine Swaps
Hi there all.  Sounds like we're having fun discussing what is genuine and
what is not...? A Buick engine in a RR? Perkins deisel in a LR.  How about
the ads for a GM 6.2 diesel in a RR?  A fire tender, a welder, a tractor?
We're all just having fun here, right?  If you want a Chrysler V-10 in your
SWB, it's fine with me (just hope I don't have to tow ya home after you chew
up your whole drive train!).  All of us want an engine that has the following:

1.  Easy to swap.
2.  Reliable
3.  Flat torque from 800 - 5000 (might as well dream)
4.  Cheap parts
5.  Great gas mileage
6.  Passes all emissions test!

Seems to me that if I go from 77 hp to 140, I will destroy all my whimpy
drivetrain parts - transmission, half-shafts, and maybe even prop-shafts
(drive shafts).  Thought about the 250-6 Chevy myself, but can't afford
the RR axle assemblies and trans/transfer needed to really take the power.
Also, with new power, we need to lower the rpm hence the 3.9's (diffs).
This makes the thing terrible off-road.  Better buy that 5spd (LT77) I
was talking about.  Uh, now I need the 230 transfer case.... And on and
on we go.  But hey, this is for fun and no one said it made sense!
Here in CA, I can't cange the pcv valve without the emissions people
going crazy (guess it's stock for me).  About your new from prop-shaft.
People do make solid drive shafts.  They have a hallow area for the spline.
They even make fiberglass ones for race cars.  Beter check the torsional
modulous though.  Large diameter thin tubing can be much stronger in torsion
that smaller 'solid' stock.  Especially with more torque.  Since most
people only run their front axles off-road, they are probably in low-range
and putting more than double the 'normal' torque on the drive shafts. Not
trying to rain on anyone, just had my share of broken parts!  If I had the
bucks, I'd have that V-8 90 Defender, but... Wife and kids tell me they
still want to eat the rest of the year!  Thought about the RR axles/
engine/drive train in a coil-sprung 88" chasis, but the Defender would
probably be cheaper than this (in the USA).  Have fun and quit bragging
about the 70+ miles and hour - it hurts too much!
Kelly Minnick  '73 88" Safari
Ridgecrest, CA

p.s.  If you need me to do some calculations on the prop-shafts, let me
know...

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