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From: Mr Ian Stuart <IAN@lab0.vet.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 09:47:23 +0000
Subject: Other movie trivia

> year Rover is it in the movie.  Is that particular rover

Similarly, in Roxanne (the Steve Martin film) he as a 109 - is it an SII?
Where was the film shot and who's was the 109?

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From: "Mr T.stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: LR hand crank starter
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:24:46 +0000 (GMT)

I thought I might add my twa penn'th regarding hand cranks for the Land
Rover. You should be able to get one second hand from a LR scrappie;
they normally part with them for less than a fiver. The other useful
crank accessory you sometimes come across is a metal funnel which fits
over the hand crank starter dog on the crankshaft pulley. This is
particularly useful, since you can then engage the handle with the dog
without scrabbling about under the vehicle.
Good luck with your new vehicle & Happy New Year.
Cheers!
-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(0475) 530581  Fax:(0475) 530601

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 07:35:25 -0500
From: Jimmy Patrick <jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk>
Subject: My charging problems (long)

Bill,

Thanks for your input.

>1st look behind your seats towards the bottom.  It may be there (if it is,
>don't feel bad.  My neigbor thought his was missing until I pointed it out.
>If not any LR parts supplier would have them.

I will take a look for it but I haven't seen it. I think I will need one
until I get this sorted. But I'm sure she'll be afraid of the dark if I
don't sort it out soon. This weekend will be my first real chance to sort
it out.

>>I don't have a charge light, though, I do have a meter that shows whether it
>>is charging or not.

>BINGO!!!  Actually, you do have a charging light.  If you have an early IIA
>with ammeter in the instrument cluster (amps/fuel), it is located at the lower
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>(fuel/temp).  If you have a III, it is located at the bottom of the instrument
>cluster (fuel/temp).

>All Land Rovers have a charging light.  If it is burned out/missing, your
>alternator/generator will not charge.  The light should come on when you turn
>the key to indicate all is well, then go out once the engine is started and
>running (and charging).

I lied. I lied. I do have a charge light. or at least a light that behaves
like one. It is located right in the center of the dash. I have a 1960
Series II so I don't know if that is the correct location for it or not. I
am still relying on the Haynes manual, and it doesn't show my dash. My
light behaves like you mentioned above.

Robert said:
>The way the circut works is very elementary Watson.  When
>the ignition is switched on the battery has more voltage than
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>from alternator than in battery bulb no glow.  More power,
>or rather voltage in battery than being produced by alternator
>then bulb glows.

So I assume that I should be charging. If me wires are set up correctly.
Maybe my battery will not hold it. It is only about 3 months old, but...
When I took it in to have it tested, they said it was too flat to test. I
charged it up last night so maybe I can have it tested this weekend. People
at work don't understand me, but I love my Land-Rover.

Cheers.
Thanks to all for the help.

Jimmy

I have two addresses: jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk or jimmyp@netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 09:22:35 -0500
From: Jimmy Patrick <jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Weber 34ich

Hi all.

Is there a manual for the Weber 34 ich carb available? Where would I get
one? (the manual that is) Maybe someone here in the UK has a spare manual
or one I can look at???

Boy these newbies have all the questions don't they.

Thanks in advance.

Jimmy Patrick
jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk
jimmyp@netcom.com

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Expansion!
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 16:12:30 GMT

Just heard on the TV news.Land Rover have applied to Solihull
Council for planning permission for a new factory,in addition
to what they already have.The new plant is to build diesel engines.
Cant keep a good one down!
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 10:15:03 PST
From: Brad Krohn <Brad_Krohn@ccm2.hf.intel.com>
Subject: Charging Problems and Land Rover sighting

Text item: Text_1

I, too, have been having vexing charging and/or starting problems -- and 
noted that the Lucas troubleshooting guide specifically says that just 
because the "charging/ignition" light goes out does NOT mean the system 
is charging correctly. 
  
BTW, Land Rover sighted in the latest issue of PC Magazine. Big ad on 
Pages 242-243 for SuperBase, with an '88 perched looking down over some 
nasty terrain.
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"ROVER? WHO DRIVES IT?"                     Brad_Krohn@ccm.hf.intel.com 
"That would be telling." -The Prisoner              '69 IIA 88" Bug-Eye 
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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:17:12 -0500
Subject: Eugene, OR

Looking for a Zen Rover mechanic in Eugene, Oregon.  Does anyone have
suggestions?  I just gave my '70 IIa with 1/3 million miles to my son at U of
O.  

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:14:25 -0500
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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:25:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Cliff Enz <cliffenz@DGS.dgsys.com>
Subject: Land rover list

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Date: 05 Jan 95 18:49:06 EST
From: Pierce Reid <PREID@csi.compuserve.com>
Subject: Serial Number Decode?

Howdy:

Is anyone familiar with the serial number codes for Series 1 Land Rovers.  My
dad just bought a c. 1953 Series 1 fire engine to restore.  Serial number is
111800065.  That is the chassis number, not the engine number.  

Can anyone decode this?  Does it mean anything?

Thanks,

R. P. Reid 
'62 IIa Military -- The Sgt Major.

** When I die I want to go quietly in 
** my sleep like my grandfather -- not
** kicking and screaming like his passengers

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: the bust
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:09:56 EST

Nigel had a 9am appointment yesterday at the local service station for 
his (slightly overdue) annual NYS inspection.  Having spent a chunk of 
tuesday fixing the horn button and ye'Ol Lucas wipers (repaired a coil 
wrapping, cleaned brushes and armature, general lube), and the day 
before scraping rust and chunks of lightbulb out of rotted out 
sidelights (an oxymoron-they're neither), then tracking down and 
installing a replacement socket for the same, I , his humble servant, 
just wasn't in the mood for surprises.  Afterall, *everything* 
worked.....main and dips, sidelights, indicators (self-cancelling, no 
less), brakelights, brakes even, horn.  All the tie rod ends are new, 
got a fresh railco bushes and bearings in each swivel, a well-adjusted 
steering box, brake lines are fine, frame even better, fresh springs, 
shocks and tyres ok.  What else could you want? (Thankfully, there's no 
emissions here yet, but it starts just south, towards NY, across the 
county line.)

I awoke to the realization that there was one ailment that could drop 
the red flag....no emergency brake.  It startled me a bit as I realized 
they'd be putting Nige up on the rack and they'd likely try the 
handbrake first thing as they drove him into the bay.  It wouldn't work.  
It hadn't since mid summer.  What can I say?  I've gotten plenty used to 
parking against curbs, rocks, logs, mazdas, and never leaving Nigel 
alone where he can hurt himself, watching him for a bit when I do 
(STAY.STAYNige.Gooo-boy.)  Never did trust that handbrake when it did 
work, anyway......

Tea in hand I ventured unto the frigid morning and pondered my 
circumstance.  Nige is now my only means of transpo, Gretchen (the other 
car) having been declared a total after clashing with a right-laner on 
the shoulder as we negotiated a otherwise legal and safe left turn into 
a lot we never quite made it into (his fault, I collected, but am out 
the car nonetheless).  Nige NEEDS to be legal as I need to get to work.  
He can do it.

A last minute attempt with WD40 and relateds, an implement of 
destruction, and vigorous application of each proved fruitless.  Time 
was clicking down...three minutes to go...if we missed out chance into 
the bay our whole day could be shot waiting...we went for it.

Speeding down the road I passed my old school (K thru 8, class of '72) 
and it was open for one of the first days since the holidays.  I smiled 
and drifted off briefly as I reflected on those long lost days in class, 
with snow in the forecast and a dusting on the playground, eyes cast out 
the window longing for the storm that could send us sledding.  I snapped 
out of it as I spotted the Sherrif lean forward and lock the radar on my 
reading as he rounded the corner at me.  Shit.  I glanced down and saw 
the speedo drift past 40....in a "school zone 30"....and looked up in 
the rear view to see the cop hang a tight left into the school lot.  
Downshift, fly right past the service station we had the appointment at, 
then scope and plan for evasive manuevers.  My best shot-a quick left 
behind the post office-was blocked by oncoming traffic, and by the time 
I made it to my next best I'd been spotted, and soon after dragged in 
for the kill.  Somehow I just can't outrun cops the way I used to.....

Wasn't long before the overdue inspection revealed itself, but that was 
the least of my problems, according to the Sherrif.  "47 in a 30, in a 
school zone, and The Judge don't like that", he said, shrugging off the 
no inspection in understanding of my plea that all the local stations 
had been out of stickers throughout December.  "A 3 pointer with a $125 
fine."

I began to wish I'd of stayed home to fix the handbrake.  I pled and 
moaned about the inaccuracy of a 30 year old guage, 16" rims with high 
profile tyres, and gave the local boy story....."gheeze, they didn't 
have school so soon after the holidays when I went there"...I swallowed 
my pride, I sold my soul, I kissed his ass.  He went back to car to look 
me up, nice calm doggie in the rear seat.  I grabbed my mug 'o tea and 
went on back to chum up, being careful not to wake the mutt as he rested 
in the morning sun.  The cop wrote me a ticket for the no inspection and 
let me slide on the speeding, and I never thought I'd be so happy to get 
a point-free $85 fine.  For a moment I relished in the concept that if 
I'd gotten an inspection in December like I was supposed to do I'd have 
gotten the speeding ticket...but then I realized the obvious...I'd of 
still been in bed.

The cop and his dog made it back to the service station before us.  He 
was inside on the phone waiting to observe the interaction between 
myself and the owner.  Did I have the appointment or had I lied when I 
said I did?  (I had, afterall, virtually admitted to a failure to 
comply, in intent at least, when earlier disclosing I passed the station 
we had the appointment at in a vain attempt to get away.)  Sure I did, 
but of course, nobody wrote it down.  An uneasy few seconds later it 
became a "just give us about 15 minutes", soon after becoming a "why not 
come back in 30-45?"

I went back home and had another cup of tea.

Back at the station, I had to give the usual instructions for starting, 
lights, and horn.  They pulled him in.  "Got any emergency brake on this 
thing?"  "Oh yeah, lemme show you....er...damned thing always freezes up 
in cold weather....it works, actually-just doesn't stay on....here, you 
hold it on and I'll go underneath with this implement and knock the 
ratchet into position".  He wasn't buying it..."Gotta have an emergency 
brake to pass inspection....let's move on"...  Nigel did just fine on 
all the other queries and in the course of the inspection we talked 
rovers, the place having serviced a few local ones recently, and Nigel 
got a chance to show off his Smith's shinburner to questions of "does it 
have heat-ah, doesn't need heat to pass inspection, but just curious"  
By then the guy was suitably impressed and pretended to have forgotten 
all about the handbrake.  He slapped a shiny new sticker to the 
windshield and got his hefty tip.

Much relieved yet humbled, I returned home to enjoy the day but just 
couldn't get comfortable until after dismantling, cleaning, and lubing 
the handbrake assembly.  Works fine now.  Had I done it earlier that 
morning I'd of saved 85 bucks.

cheers all,
rd/nigel

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:36:37 +0000
From: Steve Firth <steve@firthcom.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:02:19 PST
From: grea@virgo.net.gov.bc.ca (Gordon Rea 660-0216 (NTO Vanc.))
Subject: Vancouver LROwner

I've been listening for a couple weeks now and it's time to show my face!
I'm Gordon Rea from Vancouver, British Columbia,Canada.  I'm a currently 
frustrated (yes I have a charging problem too !)owner of a very experianced
'65 SIIa 88, Safari 2.25l (w overdrive). 
I've had this beast for 3 years now and I have to admit I like driving 	
this thing more than I like working on it. The previous owner obviously had 
the same attitude. Most of the origional wiring has rotted away and has 
been patched together with short pieces of whatever wire was at hand.	
The generator was replaced by and altinator ( A Delco I think ).
Both fuel tanks also leak ( I bought a third but it leaks also) and I lost
the locking plate to my left front hub last weekend.	  	
But I'm still in love! ( however I sometimes miss the '64 Sunbeam Alpine
I had to leave when this thing came into my life).
Q:
I have already broken and axle and destroyed a differential	
and was wondering if 16" wheels would put additional strain on
the axel. Are 16" rims "stock" on 88s ? ( The LR had 15" when I bought it )
gord

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@qvarsx.er.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Serial Number Decode?
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 22:58:00 -0800 (PST)

On January 5, Pierce Reid wrote:
> Howdy:
> Is anyone familiar with the serial number codes for Series 1 Land Rovers.  My
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> 111800065.  That is the chassis number, not the engine number.  
> Can anyone decode this?  Does it mean anything?
What is the wheelbase on this fire engine?  Where did it come from? Is it 
RHD or LHD?  What engine does it have in it now, and is it supposed to 
be original? Etc, etc?
 
According to a list put together by James Taylor (not THAT James Taylor, 
the other one that writes about Land Rovers), in 1993, the 1118xxxxx number 
is supposed to be assigned to Land-Rovers built in 1958, which is a fair 
distance from c. 1953, except maybe on a geologic time scale.  I'm not 
sure that I'd want to put too much of value on that, although #65 would 
make it a very early 1958 (maybe).  Hopefully somebody out there will 
have more and better information on the numbering system.  Meanwhile, how 
about some more info on this vintage beast?

Walt Swain
Davis, CA
1967 109 SW (on Saturday if all goes well)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 02:24:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Weber 34ich

Jimmy...
You *might* be able to find a Haynes manual that covers Weber carbs... They
also publish a very good manual for Land Rovers. The only address I have is:
   Haynes Publishing Group
   Sparkford Yeovil Sumerset England

Good luck!
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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