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From: YVES1@delphi.com
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 07:52:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

 
> > >  "Click" and "Clack" are actually two brothers (Tom and Ray) who run a
> > > repair garage in the  Boston, Mass area.

 > Damm right... The best I can manage is something like Mariachi or Marchione
> or something like that... I'm soooo embarassed!
 
They are the Magliazzi Brothers...... there..... was that so difficult? A
couple of GREAT guys..... don't miss their program!!! I worked for NPR for 9
years and if there's anything on there worth saving, it's them guys!!!! 

 

Pass the Yorkshire Pudding pleez...
and
Happy New Year folks!!!

Yves Albert (Al {"Al"}) Feder
Yves1@Delphi.com
1963 109 2 Door LR (ex Field Operations Vehicle,
Miskatonic University Department of Archaeology
 ("Mommy, what's all that funny metal stuff on the roof?")
Home of Tiny Radio Theatre AND
Eric, the Mad Megalomaniac Bull Cavy

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 09:42:32 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Pentium power??

OK...I hnow this isn't directly Rover-related...but a few folks out there
in the ether must be using the Pentium chip.  Here are a few reasons NOT to
swap it out.
        -You always thought you computer was a little *too* precise.
        -The chip already matches the interior decor of your computer and
you see no reason to change.
        -You need an alibi for the Internal Revenue Service.

Happy New Year to you all and I hope one of your resolutions was the
promise of regular oil changes for your Rover...and a promise to *finally*
do something about that "clunk" in the drive train.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
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    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 94 10:03:45 EST
From: robdav@sunshine.vab.paramax.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re:  The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

To John Hess:
The European 2.6 used a Zenith type 175 CD 2S carb.  Get a copy of the
series III manual and reference section 19.15.17 (sheet 4 in particular).
Note the air valve shaft and diaphragm.  The 175 equates to 1 3/4".  I
believe any diaphragm from the same size Zenith will fit if yours is
split or torn.  The later MGB and TR6 used the 1 3/4" Zenith.  The
mixture control is at the bottom of the carb and controls the hight
of the jet.  It is the relationship among the jet and the needle
(space between them) that controls the mixture.  The NADA uses a 2"
SU very similar to the early JAG XKE and probably won't help you.
Get the manual and study the before mentioned section.  I can send you
a photo copy of the section If you need one.
As for the details of hydrocarbons and organic chemistry.  Steve Denis
can probably advise you a great deal better than anyone I know of.
In my area of the country, we don't have these sort of emmisions 
tests, so I've never had to "learn" the "facts" on how to get by
with passing marks.  Like Steve said, If they are using NADA data
for the test, then you may never pass the test (don't mean to sound
so negative).  The NADA and EURO 2.6 engines are very different and
this could nean a lot if different data is being used.  I have the
NADA parts and workshop manuals that show the difference, if you can
get someone who is conducting the test to listen.  They can't all be
knuckleheads or can they?
Good Luck,
R&D

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 18:16:30 -0500
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman C. Wing)
Subject: A new victim!

        Well, today I loaded up my truck with tools and parts and went over
to attempt to start the 88" that I was looking at. The LR was on Martha's
Vineyard, so we had to take the ferry.  After endless fiddling with the
ignition(It didn't just want the points cleaned, it wanted brand new ones)
The engine fired up and ran strongly. The brakes were very weak at first
and even weaker when I blew out both rear brake lines. I put in temporary
plugs, and the front brakes then worked fine. Transmission and transfer
case seemed happy, so I went for a little drive down the street and was
taken immediately. The guy did come down on the price, so I am now the
proud owner of a 66 88". It was rather fun getting it back, as we decided
to drive it (unregistered and uninsured). Everything seemed to work,
although it got a bit chilly in 30 degree weather with no door tops. the
ferry ride home was rather bumpy, with a 50 mph headwind, but we made it,
and the LR made it the rest of the way with no problems. I can't wait to
tear into it tommorow and see how much is wrong with it!

        Anyway, between the location and the fact that I could drive it
back, I think I got a decent deal. Thanks a lot to everyone who replied to
my original letter, the responses were all very helpful. For the people who
offered to trade a door for the tailgate, I think I'll hang onto it for
now, but maybe in a few months when some of the more major repairs have
been done...

                                                Braman Wing
                                                1966 IIA 88"

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Date: 29 Dec 94 18:54:07 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Click and Clack

Mike makes attempts at linguistics

> Damm right.. The best I can manage is something like Mariachi or Marchione
> or something like that... I'm soooo embarassed!

You don't happen to mean *Maricones* ?

Just wasting bandwidth...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 29 Dec 94 18:54:13 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: strength issues

Steve rightly cautioned:

> on the rear is the hitch plate with clevis pin..a trailer hitch ball is 
> not strong enough to support an 8000+ pull..it says 3500 lbs for a 
> reason...I've put that and more on one...but if it had failed.......

I witnessed a very shameful event where the driver of a very messy rotten
Landy who was offroading with us attempted to jerk someone else out of
deep mud with a thick nylon tow rope attached to his... er, ball. The rope
came taut, the old car shuddered for a moment, and -  ka-RRRrrip! - 
off came the tow plate w/rear crossmember. Not a nice sight. What made it
so shameful was that from a distance there were some Toyo folks watching
who absolutely pissed themselves.

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: rsrose@cco.caltech.edu (Randolph Rose)
Subject: 6 cyl smog, and etc.
Date: 30 Dec 1994 05:22:17 GMT

Regarding getting your 6cyl to pass smog.  Non NADA engines have Stromberg 
carbs.  Check that your diaphragm on the piston doesn't have a hole; it 
will effect your mixture.  1967 was the last (and only) year for the NADA
6, which had a closed crancase and no other requirement for smog equipment
or performance.  If your Rover is later (as I suspect) AND the smog
station has a listing for it I'M IMPRESSED, as  that engine wasn't
supposed to be in the US, and it wasn't designed to meet any smog
requirements of the US.  I don't mean at all to be saying your truck
shouldn't be here--not at all--I just wonder where these smog rules and
data come from sometimes.  Anyway, check the integrity of the big rubber
diaphragm in the dash pot, float level (as was suggested), and if wondering
about the needle, the british car mailing list FTP site has a DOS program,
haystack, for computing needles.  Haven't used it, but have seen there.
I think TerriAnn may have the address.  If your Rover is 1967 or earlier,
then my story would be: The truck is OK as is in this country, your are 
using specs from the wrong engine, mine has no way of matching as it is not
high compression, different cam,carb, head, find the right data or don't 
fail me while using the wrong specs!  If you are disputed, get a fax of 
the page of "engine differences" from a parts manual, from British Pacific
or Rovers North (NADA had a supplemental parts manual).

Thanks to those who told me about 107 station wagon stuff.  As my 107 came 
without rear lamps and no wiring harness, I wanted to what the original set
up was.  There are holes for only ONE set of lamps and my switch is a 
single pole double throw -- i.e. can't switch out the brake light circuit.
Still mystified, although Steve had the best clue from the quote in a 
manual.  If anyone had a drawing of the optional series I turn signal
set up, suitable for 1957, let me know.  I'd sure like a copy. 

Thanks, 

Randy Rose

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 23:30:47 -0800
From: Steve Marsh <smarsh@halcyon.com>
Subject: Gas Tank Question

Auto safety studies seem to indicate that the gas tanks mounted on the side of some Chevy trucks have increased the risk of a fire in a collision. Are the gas tanks mounted under the seats in the SWB Land Rover subject to the same problem?

Interesting comments from a Explorer vs. Discovery road test, Seattle, WA 12/16

...Explorer comes with a tissue dispenser...new Discovery doesn't.
...loaded Explorer costs $34-$36,000...typical equipped Discovery costs $32-$34,000.
...highway driving...Discovery not that much noiser than Explorer.
...off road...Explorer bashed belly repeatedly, bounced enough to lift driver clear off the seat. Plastic air dam broke off.
...test revealed Discovery's superior off road capabilities.
Gas Mileage still bad!!

Conclusion! If a dealer was in tester's area, he would buy the Land Rover.

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From: Kelly Minnick <kminnick@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Alcohol Question
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 23:45:51 -0800 (PST)

RE: Alcohol
Bill-
I have some friends who race dirt track and some who race road cars.  Methanol
is very common.  The vehicle needs about 60% (roughly) more fuel to run
correctly on methanol.  In essense, the vehicle will give you MORE performance,
but with terrible MPG (60% more consumption).  These guys run it all the time
so their jets are drilled out larger than stock.  They did this in Dirt Bike
to a Honda CR 500 (like it needs more power!) and got almost 50% more power!
The California limit of alcohol to gas is 10%, but I know people who run 50%
with no problems.  It is corrosive as I stated before to aluminum items...
Can't get something for nothing!
Kelly Minnick
Ridgecrest, CA  '73 88" Safari

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