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1 ketteridgep@glub.demon.c17Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest - Mille Rivieres rally report?
2 "Mr T.stevenson" [gbfv0822Stolen Land Rover parts
3 azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo20Re: new member note
4 azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woo31Re: New Subscriber
5 Marcus Tooze [tooze@gis.15I need/you need...trades?
6 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000423Re: RR fuel problem
7 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000434Re: Mixing Fuels
8 Steven M Denis [denis@o19Re: spin on adapters
9 Steven M Denis [denis@o23Re: Footwell/Mudshield Replacement
10 Steven M Denis [denis@o28Re: Mixing Fuels
11 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000419New Subscriber & LR trips
12 "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak24Re: spin on adapters
13 mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne40A Christmas GIF for you
14 brabyn@skivs.ski.org (Jo11Re: RR fuel problem
15 Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr16Irish
16 Steven M Denis [denis@o19Re: spin on adapters
17 mcdpw@pacific.pacific.ne31Re: A Christmas GIF for you
18 jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)41Re: A Christmas GIF for you
19 CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR 21Camel Trophy Zippo Auction
20 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em25Re: A Christmas GIF for you
21 rpeng@cadev6.intel.com 42re: Defender 90
22 Russell Burns [burns@cis27re: Defender 90
23 William Caloccia [calocc68L R'S
24 jfhess@ucdavis.edu (john50I failed my smog test!
25 S|ren Vels Christensen [436MX94


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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:37:47 GMT
From: ketteridgep@glub.demon.co.uk (Pierre Antony Ketteridge)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest - Mille Rivieres rally report?

OK, my first contribution - well almost. I've just seen that LRO magazine 
have published my piece on the Mille Rivieres Randonnee, so I could post my
private version of events if you like. Language is a bit stronger, and the 
arguments more vehement, than in the published LRO article. In other words,
a "warts 'n' all" account.

Only, it's long - I'd have to split it into 3 or 4 daily posts, and each would 
be about 1,000 words.

Y/N? Let me know.
-- 
Pierre

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From: "Mr T.stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Stolen Land Rover parts
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:21:56 +0000 (GMT)

Has anyone else heard anything about the police swoop on various second
hand parts dealers in Derbyshire? The story I heard was that a man went
to buy a gearbox for a ninety. He saw the gearbox and looked at its
serial number to check it was the correct one for his vehicle. On
returning to pick it up, he noticed that the serial number had now been
ground off. Since he had already paid for it, he took the gearbox but
went to the the police, who apparently acted on his info and started an
investigation of parts suppliers in the area.
What is the legal situation on this? If you buy parts in good faith
which later turn out to be stolen do you lose the parts *and* your
money?
It seems that it pays to be vigilant.
-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(0475) 530581  Fax:(0475) 530601

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: new member note
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:56:52 UNDEFINED

> I would like to be added to the Land Rover Owner's group.  I purchased a
> 1973
> Series III 88 last night.  It didn't look any better this morning, but I'm
.none
>.
.Chances are, five or ten years down the road it *still* won't look any
.better... damm ugly, these Land Rovers... *but* if you still have it, you'll
.never get rid of it.. You may even have a few more..

Yeah. The ugly ones are much more faithful.......

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        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: New Subscriber
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 12:08:42 UNDEFINED

.If anyone on the list owns a late model Defender 90, I'm interested
.in knowing how you like it. Can this vehicle be used everyday? I've
.heard some reports saying that this vehicle is too uncomfortable to

I have driven all day in mine (very early 90 van) and been far more comfy than 
in family saloons I owned previously! This astonished me since I have teh 
cheapo foam block seats in it! The suspension is just so good that it 
compensates for anything else. 

.be used for long trips. How is the reliability? By that I mean can
.I treat it like a Japanese car and not have to worry about it too
.much? Or is it more like an up-market British car that requires
.a lot of expensive maintenance?

Mine has had the clutch looked at around 30k, adn I replaced teh cambelt with 
a timing gear conversion at 50k (just short of the set interval). Otherwise, 
mine has not even misfired in 55k miles.

But everyone else who has them seems to have lots of trouble. Mine gets used 
as a normal road car most of teh time - no heavy towing. Maybe that's the 
difference.

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 09:18:33 -0600
From: Marcus Tooze <tooze@gis.uiuc.edu>
Subject: I need/you need...trades?

I need two rust free rear door frames (for a '70 109 4 door Safari).
Mine are shot, and it's just easier to get used doors than mess around 
w/ repairing mine....

I have:

- Rear cross member w/ extensions
- driver side door skin

Marcus

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Date: 16 Dec 94 10:16:30 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: RR fuel problem

John Brabyn (brabyn@skivs.ski.org) experienced:

>The other night I ran out of fuel and when I filled up the tank it only took
>18.5 gallons instead of 20, in spite of my best topping up efforts. This
>seemed odd to me as I'm sure on previous occasions I have put in 18.5
>gallons immediately after the warning light came on; this time the light
>had been on for a while.

My experience with the 87 RR is that when it is standing slightly
downhill, nose downwards, I can fit almost 3 gals. more in the tank
than when standing level! And it won't splash out either after coming
straight again, it really fits in there. Seems that the RR tank has
some weird inner structure/construction :-\
The solution: Ask the guy at the gas station to jack up the rear of the
vehicle before filling up. If he knows Rover drivers he won't be surprised...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 16 Dec 94 10:18:00 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Mixing Fuels

"There's more than one way to kill an engine"

> Qestion:  I have read somewhere that the Land Rover engine, I beleive
> the 2.25 petrol engine, is capable of running with fuel mixtures such
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> to tune the engine to do this.  What kind of tunning is required?  What
> are good mixtures to use?

No, no, wait a minute, Jason, you must have misunderstood something there.
The truth is, you *can* have the 2.25 petrol running _temporarily_
on all sorts of mixtures if, for reasons of emergency (like risking to
stay out in the desert) it *absolutely must be*, and unlike most other
engines that will simply die if you add as much as a couple of tablespoons
of diesel to the tank (know of a BMW who suffered this) the LR engine,
being an overkill in terms of weight and massiveness as compared to its
power output and compression, will stand up to this for a while without
suffering any substantial damage, other than coked, sticky spark plugs.
Like when I threw out the Perkins for a 2.25 petrol, I still had around
3 gallons of diesel in the tank, and being the lazy chaotic person I am,
I simply muttered my favourite incantation ('bugger...') and topped it
up with petrol. No problem apart from a smelly smoke screen and some
occasional 'ping-ing'. But after finishing that tank full I naturally
switched to petrol permanently and also pulled and threw away the gooked
sparks. The message is, you *cannot* run the LR 2.25 petrol *permanently*
on mixtures of petrol, diesel, kerosene, Jack Daniels and horse piss
for any length of time without expecting _some_ trouble...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:19:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: spin on adapters

Yes on the repacement spin on adapter.....RN sells them.....*BUT*...why 
not go all rover and get a 90/110 *factory* spin-on mount? Got one on 
NOTAJEEP and it's the cats......picked mine up for 5 quid *and* the guy 
through in a transfer box from a 90...deal huh?
get the cilvilian version w/o all the oilcooler hoo haa.....

steve.......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:43:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Footwell/Mudshield Replacement

And he expects to have me help him with his latest rover project...

Mike.....I *know* where you live..........

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

On Thu, 15 Dec 1994 LANDROVER@delphi.com wrote:

> Steve dispenses advice...
> > DO NOT cut everything out at once...if you do the dementions are lost for 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
>               7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
>            #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:39:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mixing Fuels

Well...well Where to set the vernier......If you are only running one 
grade of fuel....don't touch it.....when you set the timing leave the 
thing set where it is and forget it.....the idea was that you could fine 
tune the timing (wearing your best pullover) when you had gotten a load 
of dusky fuel.....(your date didn't like the pinging sounds..so after she 
vetoed the "Let's shut it off and let it cool,here at the end of this dark 
lane" trick, you could spin that knob to the "R" and stop the 
pre-ignition ruckus......so one would run the knob all the way to 
advance,set the timing, and all the adjustment would be to the retard 
end..also, as the rubbing block wears on the points the timing gets 
earlier and earlier...so nearing (passing?) tune-up time (who,really, 
wants to go out in the fine british weather and muck about with points 
and all that?..) one could get a better level of performance by twisting 
the knob.......

steve.......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: 16 Dec 94 11:00:47 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Subscriber & LR trips

New Subscriber Roger Peng is curious...

> in knowing how you like it. Can this vehicle be used everyday? I've
> heard some reports saying that this vehicle is too uncomfortable to
> be used for long trips. How is the reliability? By that I mean can

Why, you can use it everynight, too! And as for comfort and trips,
if you take along some cushions and blankets, and a good supply of grass...

(Just *couldn't* resist...)
ROFLing,

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 08:51:33 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: spin on adapters

In message <Pine.3.89.9412161023.A12858-0100000@rocky-gw> Steven M Denis  
writes:
> Yes on the repacement spin on adapter.....RN sells them.....*BUT*...why 
> not go all rover and get a 90/110 *factory* spin-on mount? Got one on 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> get the cilvilian version w/o all the oilcooler hoo haa.....
> steve.......

???......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 90s in the US are all V8s so may I assume I would need to go through a UK 
dealer to get one for less than the cost of one arm + one leg?  

When did they switch over on the four bangers?

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 10:13:26 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: A Christmas GIF for you

--=====================_787598042==_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Fellow netters:

I have recieved some GIF files from Soren Vels Christensen of Denmark.  One 
of them is a Christmas version of a sign for LRO@TEAM.NET that he has been 
working on.  As this is the season, I thought you would all like a copy, so 
I attached it (uuencoded) to this posting.  Hope it comes through O.K.  If 
it makes a difference, the mailing program that I am using is the shareware 
version of Eudora for Windows.

Merry Christmas, everyone.  
Kool Yool  
>From             ()
Granville        /\
Pool            /* \
               / ** \
              / * ** \
             /*  *  * \  
             ~~~~||~~~~
              ````````

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Content-Type: application/mac-binhex40; name="LROXMAS.UUE"

[ed: see 941217.LROXMAS.UUE ]

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

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[ G.B.Pool(Redwood Vly, CA, USA)Appraiser,R/W Agent,Land-Rover aficionado ]
[ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ]

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 10:27:32 PST
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re: RR fuel problem

Thanks Stefan!!! Sounds like a great idea! I do know the fuel gauge registers
higher when on a downslope too. I'll try your trick!!

Many thanks

John

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 14:12:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Irish

I found this on another bboard, maybe some one could use it.
 Top o the mornin to ya,-------no don't shoot!!!
Jon

>From: griff@omni.voicenet.com (Gearoid P Griffin)
>Subject: Irish tags for sale
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>plates carry the official flag of the European community (twelve stars on
>a blue backround for the 12 states of europe)
>   If you are interested send e-mail for more information.
 

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 14:18:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: spin on adapters

I believe the switch over was in 1983, but on the 110 only...hows about 
it you UK folks...don't let a colonial get the best of ya here!
Right on the UK dealer...but go used....I got mine from a fellow name 
Tony in the manchester area.....Mike Morris in Wales had some but wanted 
30 quid apiece for 'em.....

steve......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 12:09:38 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: A Christmas GIF for you

Dixon,

I don't know why that happened.  This is my first attempt at attaching a 
UUencoded document to an e-mail message in Eudora.  I cc'd it to myself and 
got the same thing.  Eudora has a button at the top called BinHex; I'll have 
to see what it does.

>	What exactly is this stuff at the head of the file stating it
>	hase been converted by BinHex 4.0?  The file/attachment is
>	missing begin and end markers for uudecode to operate on it.
>	I'm going to try and add them and see what comes out.

I expected it to not put anything actually in the document, only as a 
separate file.  Did you get a separate .uue attachment that you were asked 
where to store?  I did but told it not to save it; I figured that the BinHex 
part of the document that I got was only a result of that.  But when I got 
the messge from you, it had the attachment and I went ahead and allowed it 
to save it; that put the LROXMAS.UUE file in my Eudora directory, so I 
assume that you must have gotten it.  If so, I would say ignore the BinHex 
thing and decode the .uue file. 

If I have created a mess, I am sorry, truly!  I only meant to spread a 
little Christmas cheer, not chaos!  I hope my reply to you (cc'd to the net) 
won't send another copy of the attachment!! <blush>

Granville

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 13:20:37 -0800
From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)
Subject: Re: A Christmas GIF for you

>I expected it to not put anything actually in the document, only as a
>separate file.  Did you get a separate .uue attachment that you were asked
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>assume that you must have gotten it.  If so, I would say ignore the BinHex
>thing and decode the .uue file.

For the most part, there is no way to actually send something other than
the text document via email (at this time). UUENCODE and Binhex are two
methods by which you can take a binary file and convert it to ascii/text.
Part of the conversion is a special string of text which says the text
after this is a Binhexed (or UUENCODED) binary file. When you tell Eudora
to "attach something" it converts it to the text format (either binhex of
UUencode) and them essentially pastes it into the message

Some mail software, such as Eudora, automatically recognize this string and
convert the file back to binary and save it on your disk (this is what I
use, and apparently granville as well). Other mailers don't have this
feaure, and you have to save the text to a test file and run a piece of
software which will "debinhex" it or decode the UUENCODE, etc... You can
choose either of these encodings from Eudora. So, Dixon (and others who
don't automatically decode Binhex) would get a message which started with
your intro note about the gif, then was a dense mass of text which was the
ascified version of the gif.

Binhex is a fairly standard MacIntosh format, while UUENCODE is more often
used by PC-heads. I didn't notice which you actually sent, since I have
software setup to automatically take care of all the
conversion/deconversion stuff (including all PC, MAC and UNIX formats).

I suspect you (granville) took a UUENCODED file, and told Eudora to send it
in Binhex formax, so to get at the file would mean two successive
deconversions (first debinhex, then unuuencode). I ended up with a file
that claims to be a gif, but dont have any viewer software on my portable's
disk at this time (damn tiny hard drives.. grrr).

-jory

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 16:22:01 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Camel Trophy Zippo Auction

AND THE WINNER IS...[drum roll, please]....

Arthur Patsouris [Kefi@aol.com].  The winning bid was, coincidentally, the
exact amount that was bid at the Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally, a hundred bucks.
 Many thanks to RJ Reynolds/Worldwide Brands who donated these fine
prizes...and to those of you who bid on it.  Jan Fisk was second in the
bidding, Stephen O'Hearn third and Jeff "I really want that lighter but
this is poverty season" Berg, fourth.  Merry Christmas to you all.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 16:56:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: A Christmas GIF for you

> I don't know why that happened.  This is my first attempt at attaching a 
> UUencoded document to an e-mail message in Eudora.  I cc'd it to myself and 
> got the same thing.  Eudora has a button at the top called BinHex; I'll have 
> to see what it does.

	The file is intact and it should decode after the 
	"begin xxx LROXMAS.???" is added at the beginning and a 
	"end" is added at the end of the file.  At least that is
	the case here with the uudecode on the Sun and the pc at 
	home.  I'll make it appear, that isn't the problem.  The
	thing that threw me was the .UUE impling a uuencoded file
	then missing the header info and seeing "BinHex" in its
	place.  Not a Christmas mess, just a Christmas challenge
	:-)  Besides, us Series (read character based) types are 
	challenged when it comes to these modern (read Windoze,
	GUI etc) types with mice and buttons.  The mice I am familiar
	with are those wretched little things that like to make
	nests behind the instrument panel in the big green beastie.

	Rgds,

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From: rpeng@cadev6.intel.com
Subject: re: Defender 90
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 14:26:05 PST

Thanks for your reply. EL Segundo? I used to work for the Aerospace 
Corporation over there a few summers back.

I went to the British car meet in Palo Alto in September, and someone
had a Defender 90 with around 6000 miles on it. He said he's done
some hard offroading with it, and it showed; there were scratches here
and there and the valve covers were already leaking oil.

I think the quality issue would concern me more than anything else.
Sure it's expensive to buy a Defender, but if it gives reliable service 
over a long time, then it's OK. However, having been a Jag owner for 
the last 3 years, I worry about the reliability of British products. 
Another issue is the cost of service. Around where I live there's only
one Landrover dealer/shop, and I would imagine they are expensive.
What has been your experience so far? 

Does your vehicle have A/C? is it effective at all?

Four Wheeler magazine has a Defender 90 as a long term test vehicle;
I will be following that closely.

Some final comments: I think if Land Rover can lower the base price of
the Defender from $28K to $25K, it would be a lot more competitive
in the market place, and buyers would be less likely to encounter the
Luxury tax on fully equipt models. Basically, they would be able to
do more volume, and maybe even reduce amount the advertising they
need to do. Porsche and Lotus both reduced the prices of their
vehicles by around $10,000 over the past few couple of years, so how
about it, Land Rover?

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roger Peng                                     (408)765-7863
Intel Corporation
Design Technology, Physical CAD
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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: re: Defender 90
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 19:10:57 PST

Roger,
I have a D-90 I got for 25K with full soft top. I have put 4800
miles on it in a coulple of months, and have only had a problem with the starter.
The problem may have been my fault as I abused it trying to drive
thru my pond. 
I sound proofed the beast, and now I can hear the radio with the soft
top. I am hoping the hard top will hope the noise issue.
I also installed a rear heater. As far as the quality, there are some issues,
but they are easily worked out. I know my R-Rover has had a strange
electrical problem. but I just treat it as a part of the trucks 
personality. The D-90 has had a hard time starting once, or twice,
but by holding the gas pedal half way to the flor, and turning the
starter it takes off. I would sure hate to pay a dealer to find something
like that.
As for the Lux tax, It is my understanding that you avoid it due to
the gvw of over 6000 lbs.
So far I have been very happy with my truck.

Russ
94 D-90
91 R-ROver

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 22:14:02 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

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From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: L R'S
Message-ID: <941216025930_75473.3572_FHQ27-1@CompuServe.COM>

HI BILL,  AM TRYING SOME DIFFERENT NUMBERS IN THE MODEM STRING. HEREWITH SOME
PEARLS  OF WISDOM :-
 ROOF WINDOWS : USING THE GLASS AS A TEMPLATE MARK AROUND THE OUTSIDE, MAKE A
SECOND MARK ALL THE WAY ROUND 1/4 INCH OUTSIDE THE FIRST AND CUT A HOLE TO THIS
LINE, FILE OFF THE BURRS, FIT THE SEALING RUBBER AND THEN THE GLASS TO THE
RUBBER. WASHING UP LIQUID MAKES THE GLASS SLIDE IN EASIER, A TEN MINUTE JOB !!
MARCUS :- CARBURRETORS : A 1967 PETROL WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN FITTED WITH A
ZENITH SOLEX CARB, THESE GAVE PROBLMS WITH THE O RING SEAL BETWEEN THE TOP AND
BOTTOM PIECES LEAKING. THE SEAL IS BELOW THE FLOAT CHAMBER LEVEL AND FUEL LEAKS
INTO THE CHOKE, THERFORE THE  MIXTURE IS RICH. THIS USUALLY FOLLOWS ON A PERIOD
WHEN THE MOTOR HAS BEEN LEFT STANDING FOR A LONG TIME, THE PETROL( OOPS SORRY
_GAS )  EVAPORATES AND THE SEAL DRY'S OUT, WHEN THE ENGINE IS STARTED AGAIN THE
O RING IS****** ERED, AND FAST TICKOVER AND HEAVY FUEL USAGE FOLLOWS.
  THE EARLIER SOLEX CARBURRETOR WAS BETTER BUT BY NOW THEY ARE ALL WORN OUT. THE
WEBBER IS THEREFORE ONE OF THE EASIEST ALTERNATIVES, BUT TOP END POWER IS
REDUCED SLIGHTLY BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER CHOKE SIZE.
 ALTERNATIVES ARE TO MAKE A RIGHT ANGLE ADAPTOR AND FIT AN S.U. IT IS ADVISABLE
TO PUT A WATER JACKET ROUND THE ELBOW AND ROUTE THE HEATER WATER THRO IT, THIS
REDUCES THE MANIFOLD ICING PROBLEMS IN COLD WEATHER. OF COURSE THEN YOU NEED TO
EXPERIMENT WITH JET SIZES. HAYNES DO AN HALF DECENT MANUAL ON THE SU CARBS.
 ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO FIT A TWIN CHOKE WEBBER, A PLATE TYPE ADAPTOR CAN BE
MADE UP TO SANDWICH BETWEEN THE CARBURETOR AND THE EXISTING MANOFOLD, AGAIN IT
IS NECESSARY TO EXPERIMENT WITH THE JETS. 
 IAN ASHCROFT MAKES TRANSFER BOX CONVERSIONS FOR THE FITTING OF AUTOMATIC OR 5
SPEED GEARBOXES.
 HAD A MESSAGE FROM JOHN HONG, TOLD HIM NY WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR BOTH OF US, HE HAD
NO NEED TO LEAVE JUST BECAUSE I ARRIVED.!!
 REGARDS BILL.

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	id UAA10051; Fri, 16 Dec 1994 20:20:55 -0500
Date: 16 Dec 94 20:18:12 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: LR
Message-ID: <941217011812_75473.3572_FHQ66-1@CompuServe.COM>

Done some more modem string experiments and think it is better.  recieved mail
from Brad Krohn and responded twice but it has come back as an incorrect
address. some more advise from the slimey limey.
 rear door handle security. the handle is normally fitted to the sheet metal
frame with a couple of self tapping screws, the stripped threads can be renewed
with larger screws but this is only a short term solution.  ' the ' best repair
is to purchase a couple of  'rivnuts' from an industrial fastener supplier,
these are special nuts which can be fitted into a plain hole and expanded to
grip the hole, rather like a pop rivet, a conventional screw can then used.
method 2  weld two nuts to a piece of sheet metal at the same centre ( sorry
spellchecker center ) distance as the handle fixing screws, then pop rivet the
plate to the inside of the door . method 3 , purchase from an industrial
fastener supplier a couple of ths spring clip type nuts similar to the nuts used
to hold the front floor panels in place. method 4 weld the handle o the door ,
method 5  take a length of baling twine .......
 ref the Craddock engine price, VAT at 17.5 % is not applied to export sales.
duty is however payable on import.

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 19:16:46 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (john hess)
Subject: I failed my smog test!

Hello again Land Rover fans,

>From the responses to my earlier questions about the interior door handle
and weather stripping, it would appear that I am thinking like a rover
owner.  What I mean is that no single answer appeared to be the best, all
were reasonable. I will fix the beast.  bigger screw for the handles,
genuine weather stripping maybe ordered from the UK  (suggestions?).

Now a more complicated problem:  The Hessmobile-dormobile failed its
California smog test.  The engine runs (IMHO) very nicely, smooth, even
beat.  I don't want to mess with it but have to either get it to pass or
spend $50 (the max for this old of a car) and then go to a referee station.
That will take an appointment and a trip to sac.  easier is get it to
magically pass some how.  Harder is to adjust things myself, then pay
soemone else to adjust things then go to the referee station.

I have the 2.6 liter european 6 cyl engine with the Stromberg 175.CD.2S carb.
test results:  at idle  rpm (by state law 750-850, tested at 818)
hydrocarbons allowed, 500 ppm       me 795   therefore fail
carbon monoxide %  allowed 5.50%   me 4.88      pass
CO2  11.6   (%? doesn't say)         O2   0.2  (%?)

Because the beast is old, no standards need to be met at 2500 rpm although
my results are :  HC (ppm)  153;    CO %   0.33,   CO2   13.3,  O2   1.8
all at 2547 rpm.

My first question:   will running CD-2 lead substitute have an effect on
emissions?
I have been pouring this into the gas with every fill up and don't know
exactly what it is or how it works.  The bottle has no ingredient info but
does say that it is epa registered and safe for catalytic converters.
Thus, it is NOT conc lead in a liquid.  any ideas?

Does anyone have any words of wisdom (concerning this problem).  I intend
to follow the directions in my owners manual for adjusting the carb, then
having the vehicle retested, hopefully at the highest rpm allowed (since
the emissions were much lower at 2500 rpm than 800).

Thanks,

john f hess phd (wow, really?)
jfhess@ucdavis.edu
from home via modem
Land-
  -Rover, Sunbeam Tiger and good ol reliable Mazda owner!

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 07:51:00 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: MX94

Hi Roverers

Granville posted the novelty sign while i was still skating the mouse.
Everything IS faster in America ;-).

Down below is a more conservative x-mas card, attached directly so you won't 
need euforia with buttons. (Well, truth is that i'm a closet windozer). I had
the objects from the sign lying around anyway.

	"Look what they've done to my trees ma"

Lawrence in the Snow with Drool.

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