Land Rover Owner Message Digest Contents

[ First Message Last | Table of Contents | <- Digest -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]

The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Send Submissions

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 21:05:45 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (john hess)
Subject: fixing interior door handle, weatherstripping

Hello all,

I would like some advice concerning the repair of an interior rear door
handle.  This is the handle to pull on and shut the door and not the handle
that operates the latch.  One of mine came loose on the trip and it is
obvious that the attaching screws are stronger than the soft metal they
screw into, thus, stripped out metal in the door.  I haven't taken the door
panel off or done anything more than realize that the screws are not
holding and the handle is not attached anymore.

What is the best course of action?

Anyone have experiences with non genuine weather stripping?  I see that
atlantic british sells it.  My inclination is to tackle one door at a time
with genuine and do the rivets, after all, mine is now 26 years old and is
still good but not great.  I doscovered tonight that if the drivers door is
shut when DRY, water doesn't leak in.  Once the rain starts and everything
gets wet, I have a leak from the top of the drivers door (RHD).  SInce
northern california has already gotten almost a full winters rain, I am
thinking more and more about sealing up the rover.  Droughts are ceratinly
nicer, driving the tiger around topless!

Also, I have tried to order the two volume workshop manuals from British
pacific and rovers north.  Both are sold out;  I'd like the set and don't
care really where I get them;  maybe I'll us the visa card and order from
the UK.  Until then, anybody have the set in good used condition they would
like to sell?

john f hess phd (wow, really?)
jfhess@ucdavis.edu
from home via modem
Land Rover, Sunbeam Tiger and good ol reliable Mazda owner!

------------------------------

From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: LRO *Early*!!!
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 10:28:43 GMT

Yes! Its happened! I got this month's LRO 24 hours EARLY.
Verily,verily,I say unto thee,the age of miracles is not
past.
However,for those of you who *wont* get the thing for weeks
and are S1 orientated,the following tit-bit appears on page
eight.
More than 100 pristine S1 petrol engines lying in storage
for decades in a Swiss Army store,have been bought by
John Craddock,and are to be offered for sale at 1250 pounds
each.The headline says the engines are "as new" recondtioned
units.The engines are complete(whatever that means).
There are photos of these engines in the Craddock ad,and they
are immaculate,most ancillaries being new,rather than reconditioned.
They are all two litre units.If you want one withoiut ancillaries,
it will cost 750 quid plus VAT(the 1250 is also plus VAT).
Craddock's number is 01543 577207,if anyone is interested.
Since there are a limited number of them,I thought it worth
posting the info to the list.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

------------------------------

From: Carl Byrne <SPECBB@CARDIFF.AC.UK>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:35:37 GMT
Subject: Cam followers

I'm new to this service so I hope I've done things properly.

Does anbody know of a source of GENUINE cam followers for the 
overhead inlet, side exhaust valve engine. Perhaps they are still 
available in the States from a company specialising in post-war 
British car parts?

I own a completely rebuilt (except body) 1600 cc 80" 1949 no: R 
8667126, reg MHT 310. Unfortunately despite trying to rebuild the 
engine with all new parts I had to use a good second hand set of 
followers. I would like to fit new ones.

Thanks in advance

Carl.
Dr.Carl Byrne
University of Wales College of Cardiff,
Wales.
UK.

------------------------------

From: Carl Byrne <SPECBB@CARDIFF.AC.UK>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:59:06 GMT
Subject: Oil pressure on 200TDI and 300TDI

My previous two vehicles (90 Defender, Discovery) have had 200TDI 
engines. Filled with fully synthetic oil the oil light would go out 
almost immediately when starting from cold. My new Discovery has the 
300TDI and with this engine the oil light takes about 1.5 to 2 
seconds to extinguish using the same oil. I realise that on the 
300TDI engine the oil pump (G-type trochoidal) is fitted to the front 
of the crank instead of being immersed in the sump as for the 200TDI. 
Presumably the delay comes from the need to suck oil up the strainer 
tube and prime the pump. 

Can anbody confirm that their 300TDI behaves the same?

My worry, hopefully unfounded, is that this 2 second delay may cause 
premature damage to the main bearings etc. It seems to be a backward 
design step by LandRover presumably adopted to increase commonality 
of the front end covers of the TDI and MPI engines.

The vehicle has covered only 5000 miles but this delay has been 
present from new. The dealer says it is fine but I have in the past 
had reasons to distrust them.

Apart from this the vehicle is great and well recommended.

Any comments??

Regards Carl.
Dr.Carl Byrne
University of Wales College of Cardiff,
Wales.
UK.

------------------------------

From: llevitt@idcresearch.com
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 09:38:28 EST
Subject: re: RR salvage

Granville,

I wouldn't worry too much about titling the thing. Title it as a '58, a '90 or 
whatever. Based on personal experience, I can say that you will have a great 
deal of difficulty ever *selling* the beast, and the person that eventually does
buy it won't care what the title says. So, I say go for the early title, makes 
life easier and cheaper (less potential emissions issues and excise taxes).

Have fun.

Lee Levitt
llevitt@idcresearch.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 09:51:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: roverhead rantings

On Wed, 14 Dec 1994 jpappa01@InterServ.Com wrote:

> thanks for comeback. good to hear from you. NADA is alternately known as 
> north american dollar area (as applies to old rovers and series landies) and 
> nowadays as north american dealer association.

	To get pedantic, all NA Land Rovers were NADA's for parts 
	determination et cetera.  However there was the specific 6 cyl.
	109 station wagon that was actually called the NADA.  Happily
	the parts suppliers in the UK only know about the first one so
	all you have to do in emphasis many times that you have a NADA
	so you might get the right parts.

> platform as it currently exists is the most inefficient, labor intensive 
> vehcicle in the land rover lineup. inefficient in that it takes 70 man-hours 
> to produce one (tooling decades-old, remember? No automation back then). 

	To be nit picky again, if you take Land Rover to mean the entire 
	company, the most inefficient vehicle that they produce is the Mini.
	All hand built, the line has defied automation attempts, but since
	the line is complete amortised, makes a profit, they sell every
	one they make...  It keeps going.  Production is guaranteed to at
	least 1997 currently.

	Rgds,

	Dixon

------------------------------

From: Kelly Minnick <minnick@joker.chinalake.navy.mil>
Subject: LRO
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 7:34:06 PST

Hello again from the high desert. I have had quite a few inquires about this
Excel database for the siia & sIII LR parts.  I have consolidated the 3
databases into one and have stored the binary and ascii (Mac & PC) under the
directory /users1/pub/users/kminnick on owens.ridgecrest.ca.us.  You should
be able to log on as anonymous as an ftp server and do an 'mget' to pull
these files.  Remember to type 'binary' first or the binary Excel will be
scrambled!  Hope this helps.  If there are any problems, write me!
Kelly Minnick
Ridgecrest, Ca USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 10:39:29 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Carbs and whatnot

Just another 2 cents worth...I ran with the Zenith 36IVE for many years and had
at least two of the fuel cut-off solenoids fall out - it had too much leverage
for the weak pot metal of the carb.  The second time it happened almost
produced a coronary: tooling along in the hammer lane in OD [solenoid falls
out]; engine begins to sputter. "What the f*#@..." [solenoid bounces onto
exhaust manifold, shorts out; wire back to instrument panel incandesces, taking
ignition wire with it in the process.]  Engine dies as copious clouds of smoke
obscure windscreen at 50 mph.  After the adrenalin rush was over, shoved the
stub of a pencil into the solenoid hole (it stayed for two years) and rewired
the ignition and was rolling soon enough.

FWIW, I ran with a Holley carb for seven years.  It was the 2494AAS which was
fitted to manual choke International Scouts from '60 to '64.  Got good power
and *great* mileage...up to 27 mpg (no lie!).  Left fuel in it during a
prolonged down time and it gummed up something fierce.  Couldn't find another
locally, so went back to the Zenith (now owned by Solex) 36IV (no "E").  There
may still be sources out there for the little Holley.

Sent this to Roy yesterday, but others may be interested.  There are two types
of U-joints, "early" and "late".  The late type measures 2 15/16" from end cap
to end cap.  Use these crossovers for the U-joint:

        Spicer Dana   153X
        Neapco        28153x
        AEC           AE-521HD
        Borg Warner   114-513

Sorry, nothing for the "early" type.

BTW, did anyone else receive two copies of today's digest?

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

------------------------------

From: "Richard Lucking" <BU063@ist2.co.umist.ac.uk>
Date:          Thu, 15 Dec 1994 15:54:29 GB/EIRE
Subject:       Re: Sump plug stuck

Thanks for all the replies I have recieved to the problem. I am off 
home Saturday and will have a chance to try out some of these 
suggestions. I will be unsubscribing on Friday until mid-January as my 
mailbox here is not very large. I expect to have a *lot* more 
problems/suggestions/stories to post when I return. 

Have a Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year (I know I will ;-) )

now where did I leave my toolkit.......

Cheers for some great advice

Richard
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lucking                      
phone:(0161) 224 6641 (Term)          email:bu063@ist2.co.umist.ac.uk
      (01903) 260240 (Vacation)             se063@sna.co.umist.ac.uk
    A Land Rover is for life, unlike a Jeep . . . . . .
=====================================================================

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 10:15:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu>
Subject: LRO clone

My co-worker has taken note of the pleasure generated by
the LRO e-mail list.  He has used it as his prototype
and I am happy to announce:  "2cv-l" for
"Citroen 2cv owners and enthusiasts".  Pass the word
if you know potential subscribers.  To subscribe, send email to:
"listproc@lists.missouri.edu" with the first line of
the body (not the subject, the body) 
"subscribe 2cv-l Your Name"  where you
substitute your name for Your Name (yes folks, it does
happen).  It is a new list with no subscribers, so it
will take awhile for traffic to pick up.
He plans to advertise in comp.auto.xxxx when he gets his greeting
files up to spec.  Web pages, archives, faqs, etc
are planned.  He also wants to get hooked up with "team.net".

OK, so 2cv's are ugly cars, most people think series LRs are
too.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
---------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 08:42:11 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: fixing interior door handle, weatherstripping

In message <199412150505.VAA01285@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu> john hess writes:
> Hello all,
> I would like some advice concerning the repair of an interior rear door
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> panel off or done anything more than realize that the screws are not
> holding and the handle is not attached anymore.

The grab handle is secured to a sheet stee(?) inner panel with two sheet metal 
screws.  Use the next size larger screw.  The handle goes on after the door 
panel so you can not use screws & nuts.  If the holes get too big. weld um shut 
& redrill them.
> Hello all,

> Anyone have experiences with non genuine weather stripping?  I see that
> atlantic british sells it.  My inclination is to tackle one door at a time
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> northern california has already gotten almost a full winters rain, I am
> thinking more and more about sealing up the rover.

I purchased a complete set of genuine factory seals from Merseyside Land Rover 
works for considerably less than you can purchase them in the US.  I'm waiting 
untill I paint my LR before putting them on though.
 

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 12:24:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mixing Fuels

Brad Krohn writes;
>...
>I know there's a thumbscrew for the "vernier adjustment," which affects 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>essentially "fine-tuning" of the distributor, or what. Where should it 
>be set?

>From Series ll owners manual;
Ignition Timing, petrol models
In addition to automatic timing advance mechanism, the distributor
incorporates a hand setting control, known as the octane selector. This
is a vernier adjustment attached to the distributor,fitted with a
sliding portion controlled by an adjusting screw and a calibrated scale
marked R and A with a number of divisions between. The standard setting
for the ignition is with the long line of the scale on the sliding
portion against the mark on the selector body, thus leaving one division
further possible advance and four divisions retard.

This setting is correct for 80 octane fuel and with a clean engine, but
should pinking develop as a result the need for decarbonising, the
control can be retarded a little by turning the screw in a clockwise
direction. Do not forget to return it to the origional position after
decarbonising.
In certain countries very low grade fuel is supplied, in which case it
may be necessary to  adjust the octane selector to avoid pinking, even
with a clean engine.

Further 5 paragraphs on ignition timing deleted. (write if interested)
Pffhhweeuuu!!!
Jon

------------------------------

From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: 4 wheeler of the year (again)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 17:39:38 -0700 (MST)

You read it here first.

FOUR WHEELER mag, which named the Def90 "four wheeler of the year" in 
1994 will in the Jan. 1995 issue (cover feature) bestow the honour on the 
Discovery.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

------------------------------

From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: 4 wheeler of the year (again) (correction)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 17:55:55 -0700 (MST)

< FOUR WHEELER mag, which named the Def90 "four wheeler of the year" in 
< 1994 will in the Jan. 1995 issue (cover feature) bestow the honour on the 
< Discovery.

I goofed.  It must be the Feb. 1995 issue.  Ihave the Jan issue in hand; 
it names the pickup truck of the year, and has another article of interest:

	Stewart, John
	"1995 Range Rover"
	FOUR WHEELER
	vol. 32, no. 1 (Jan. 1995)
	p. 43-44

While I'm at it here's another:

	Simanaitis, Dennis
	"1995 Land Rover Discovery: good car, questionable karma"
	ROAD & TRACK
	vol. 46, no. 5 (Jan. 1995)
	p. 72-76

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 16:58:55 PST
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  4 wheeler of the year (again)

Congratulations! Actually I thought it was fairly inevitable -- it would have 
been an insult to us all if they hadn't!!

Of course, their most notable "four wheeler of the year" award was in 1989
for the Range Rover!!! 

(Actually 3 Land Rover models getting the award in 7 years isn't bad!)

John Brabyn
89RR

------------------------------

From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Cowlings???
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 16:35:01 EDT

Hi all,
        Does any one know if a cowling off a 2 litre will fit a 2.25, I 
have a 2 litre radiator (strange for a series 1) and wonder if I can just 
use a 2 litre cowling for my 2.25 diesel?

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                  |         1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                    |         2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia          |         I slow for hills!
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                 |       but not of my own will

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 22:50:57 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: LRO Arrives, wrong net address?

Got my LRO yesterday...  A letter to the editor points folks on the 'net to 
Rec.Autos.Misc.  Does anyone hang out over there that could point folks this 
way?  Maybe an occasional message could be posted letting Roverfolk know 
about this list?  Sorry if this is old news...

P.S.  I'm way behind on e-mail...  I've been flat on my back with back 
trouble.  I've only been sitting for them what pays me...  I've not yet been 
able to convince anyone to pay me for lying on my back.  8^)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

------------------------------

  END OF LAND ROVER OWNER DIGEST 

World Wide Web Sites:
        http://whitman.gar.utexas.edu/roverweb/roverweb.html
        http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/

If majordomo barfs at something, and you're convinced he should have 
understood what you sent him, contact majordomo-owner@chunnel.uk.stratus.com
-B

Back	Forward
Photos & text Copyright 1990-2011 Bill Caloccia, All rights reserved. Digest Messages Copyright 1990-2011 by the original poster or/and Bill Caloccia, All rights reserved.