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1 | jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell) | 10 | as seen on the net (usenet group: ba.market.vehicles) |
2 | YVES1@delphi.com | 27 | The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
3 | YVES1@delphi.com | 31 | The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
4 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 21 | Re: |
5 | William Caloccia [calocc | 22 | [not specified] |
6 | "Peter C. Parsons" [ppar | 103 | Confessions(lessons) of a Beginner |
7 | David L Dean [DEAND@kea. | 21 | Re: Series One Heater |
8 | "Jurgen Klus" [PSJK@psy1 | 20 | Thanks |
9 | dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu | 40 | Odd Chassis Numbers?? |
10 | Craig Murray [craigp@ocs | 26 | Re: Smokey no more ? |
11 | Craig Murray [craigp@ocs | 26 | 1998 and the Land Rover |
12 | RRover2486@aol.com | 42 | Camel Trophy vs. Gucci Trophy |
13 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 21 | Re: Confessions(lessons) of a Beginner |
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 01:36:54 -0800 From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell) Subject: as seen on the net (usenet group: ba.market.vehicles) > Get even with your husband, sell me his! > All models considered, lowest prices paid, all cash. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > cs@crl.com > 510-254-3324 ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: YVES1@delphi.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 07:01:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Re: Series LR waving!!!! Here in the sticks of CT, seeing another Series LR is always a matter of waving, big grins, all that stuff.... not so with the RR's and Discos however!!! Waddawegottado to edjicate them fancy folk? Do they not wish to acknowledge their common heritage with us grungies? Note - this is NOT a flame!!! Just a reminder to all those nattily dressed, tony, ever so good looking self-assured young professionals, that they do share a common bond with those of us who double clutch those square cut gears...:) Yves Albert (Al {"Al"}) Feder Yves1@Delphi.com Amateur Radio tcp/ip: w1eox.ampr.org. (44.88.4.14) Direct Phacques Line (203) 663-3092 At the Big Red House On Top of the Hill Factory Authorized Joseph V. Lucas Despair Station ("Mommy, what's all that metal stuff on the roof?") Home of Tiny Radio Theatre, KA1RJS, AND Eric, the Mad Megalomaniac Bull Cavy ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: YVES1@delphi.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 07:16:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Shooting Brake.... Estate Wagon.... Pintles/Gudgeons..... Dave (VE4PN) thank you for that great little essay on your proper British verbiage as applied to our aluminium friends... May I suggest possibly the following potential accessories for our LR's? - Tiller Steering (to take care of that delightful play in the steering!) - Running Backstays with Hyfield Levers (not all that much extra work but trimming the rigging just right does help going up those long, long hills with the 2.25 petrol!) - A woven "Turk's Head" for the king spoke on the LR steering wheel to help in ascertaining one's proper relative heading whilst navigating twisting and turning notways and byways..... - Reef Points for the military Canvas Top for our summer LR dress! (We do get some brisk windy days around here) 'nuff nonsense! Happy Thanksgiving Weekend, don't forget to reach out and make friends with those nice RR/Defender/Disco people.... they're awright, Mate! Yves Yves Albert (Al {"Al"}) Feder Yves1@Delphi.com Amateur Radio tcp/ip: w1eox.ampr.org. (44.88.4.14) Direct Phacques Line (203) 663-3092 At the Big Red House On Top of the Hill Factory Authorized Joseph V. Lucas Despair Station ("Mommy, what's all that metal stuff on the roof?") Home of Tiny Radio Theatre, KA1RJS, AND Eric, the Mad Megalomaniac Bull Cavy ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 12:06:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Mark... The Rochester was pretty common in the mid 1960's.. Most US auto parts stores will carry a rebuild kit.. NAPA is a good place to start. Note the model number on the tag attached to one of the screws on the carb. They may ask you for that. Also.. The Rochester was usually used on things like 6 cyl Chevy's. It was re-jetted for the Land Rover. Sorry.. can't help you with the correct jet size. BTW.. I run a Rochester on my SerIII. It does the job.. Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) 1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol 1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: camel trophy vehicles, rochester carbs... Date: Sun, 27 Nov 94 15:34:19 -0500 From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com> Well, if it is a camel trophy disco you want, they can be had for something like the cost of a new one, FOB john craddocks, you figure out how to get it 'cross the border. If you want the 110" version, then what you'll need to watch the advertisements in the back of LRO Int'l Magazine, and figure 20 to 30,000 dollars, FOB somewhere in the UK, then you'll need to figure out how to get it into the states. After all, if there is a Trophy vehicle in the States (post 1985) it is either on a one-year tourist visa, a manufacturers test plate, or some private owner smuggled it in, but if you own a '91r, then you've already sorted that part out. ---- As for a rochester carb rebuild kit, you probably need not venture further your local parts store (for americun car pats that is), you'll need the model number of the carb (probably includes the CFM rating), and/or the make and model of the GM product that it would usually be found on :-) - B ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 14:48:11 -0700 From: "Peter C. Parsons" <pparsons@ppsol.com> Subject: Confessions(lessons) of a Beginner I finally got my Disco really off road on the Friday after all the turkeys get eaten. (I have had it for over three weeks!). As a born-again virgin offroader, I haven't done any real offroad travel in about 15 years. A friend and I took the Disco up into the Rocky Mountains West of Boulder CO, and just south of Nederland. We spent about 5 hours playing on open Forest service access between 8000 feet, and 10,000 feet. The area we went, was about 6 miles east of the Continental divide (near Eldora Ski area). Despite opening up myself to beginner-flaming, I thought I would share the few things I learned on Friday: LESSON: Don't listen to college football, and go offroading at the same time. TIME TO LEARN: 2 minutes COST: One radio antenna. COMMENT: First tree to reach for me snagged antenna and broke it, ending my listening to football for the day. Antenna down before going offroad! LESSON: When you pass a park ranger just after entering the area, pay attention to what you are doing. TIME TO LEARN: 8 minutes COST: a bit of a lecture, and some ego. COMMENT: See next lesson. LESSON: Tread Lightly does NOT equate to Tread anywhere others have been, with impunity. TIME TO LEARN: 10 minutes. COST: A bit of a lecture, and some ego. COMMENT: Saw a half frozen mud hole just off the road I was traveling. It had been played in by a bunch of 4x4s in that past week or two, so I thought it would be a good place to start. As soon as I entered it, Ranger Paul appeared from the woods, and 'pulled me over'. He checked my license, insurance, and registration, and then proceeded to explain that that mud bog was NOT part of the forest service road/access, and was illegal to travel on. He lectured on how 'too many damn 4x4 commercials show vehicles blasting through mud', and how the area is ecologicially sensitive, and is getting trashed. I asked him where I could go, treading lightly, and legaly, to test my new rover. He accurately described several access routes up the mountain, one south facing (not much snow yet), and one north facing (with thin, but total, snow coverage). In the end he did not ticket me, and was very helpful about the area. Twice during our 'conversation', he commented on the Disco. 'Nice truck, how do you like it so far' was one comment. I think he would have been alot less friendly if I was in a Suzuki.... Also, in 4 hours of Rovering in this area, the ranger was the only other vehicle we encountered. LESSON: Fold back mirrors are great 'training tools' for how wide your vehicle is. TIME TO LEARN: Learned it all day long. COST: Mountain brush stripes on mirrors, and body. COMMENT: I learned this lesson less often as the day went by, and I got to know how wide the disco is. LESSON: The Rover is better offroad then I am (for now, at least :-) ). TIME TO LEARN: 4 hours COST: Made me ever happier with the choice to buy a Rover. COMMENT: The Disco went anywhere, and everywhere I was willing to point it. Up snowcovered slopes, over steep/sharp erosion cutbacks, ... I don't think I really challenged the vehicle, but it challenged me. It was great to be able to be completely confident in the back country. LESSON: Things to bring next time TIME TO LEARN: All day. COST: None. COMMENT: I took basic tools, shovel, and cold weather clothes. Next time I will remember to throw in my Sorel snow boots, for hiking etc. Also need a flash light, (and alot of stuff I have been noting from reading the digest - but I am not at that level yet). We topped out at a old gold mill at about 10,000 feet, and wandered around looking at it for awhile. But by then it was almost dark, and was time to head back down. All and all, it was a great outing, and I am looking forward to lots more in the near future. O.K. enough of my beginners review. I have a few questions: 1) Anyone able to recommend a good type of tire chains for winter/offroad use? 2) Do any other Disco owners get wafted with wiper fluid smell every time they turn on the front 'squirters'? -Peter C. Parsons, 'SKYROVR' 94' Discovery 5sp, white, loaded, - no antenna -------------------------------------------------------------- Pinpoint Solutions, Inc () () Phone: (303)444-7257 523 Arkansas Mtn Rd. () (( ) ( ) fax: (303)444-4966 Boulder, CO 80302 ( ) ) email: pparsons@ppsol.com ( ( () ) (_________) . . "Tower, Spaceman Spiff is now . . turning short final for the . __ . for the valley of the . \ . damned and land of \ the unconcerned..." ` -------O-------' ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 11:46:03 +1300 From: David L Dean <DEAND@kea.lincoln.ac.nz> Subject: Re: Series One Heater Cold Series 1 Owners, My LWB Series I didn't have a heater so I used a rear unit from a mid- eighties model LWB Landcruiser. It takes up more room than the Rover unit, and maybe *wrong* to some subscribers, but it is REALLY WARM and the Dual blade fan is REALLY STRONG. Backgrownd: I had the Rover round unit in my last Series I and was constantly cold. Probably a bit much for the old truck cab, but I can always put a BMC heater switch on it to slow it down.... Cheers, ------- (David L. Dean - Department of Economics & Marketing) ------- ----------- (Lincoln University, Canterbury, New Zealand) ----------- --- ("sober fearless pursuit of truth, beauty, & righteousness") ---- ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Jurgen Klus" <PSJK@psy1.ssn.flinders.edu.au> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 09:19:21 GMT-0930 Subject: Thanks I hadn't thought of the wheel nuts. Mind you, the places I go spin up the nuts with an air drill set low, and do the final torque with a wrench. Maybe I overdid them by hand after the rear right (the worst one) exploded and bent the rim out on my last bush excursion? (The adrenalin flows for a while after a tyre goes bang at 80-90 kilometres per hour, with a full laden trailer behind, on a dirt road!) That may be it. I don't ride the brake, its a 5 speed not auto. I just hope its still machinable! regards, Jurgen Klus 618 201 2413 Land Rover....what else?.....BMW? ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb) Subject: Odd Chassis Numbers?? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 10:37:55 +1030 (CST) Ok Guru types, I've recently been asked about an odd chassis number which makes no sense to me (no great suprise). A person at Dimboola (whoop whoop land Oz) has a series IIa 109" with factory ID plate and chassis number matching and Suffix B ??? I thought B suffix was reserved for 88" wagons. Any Ideas?????? When I was asked about this I checked my records. My old IIa was a 109 6cyl 2 dr Chassis 34700377A. Ok The 347.. Makes sense but what of the A suffix???? Isnt it supposed to be a D suffix on the sixes?? Are these just simple cases of incorrect numbering?? My stage one chassis number has one clear over stamping. Or is there a method to the system unknown to me?? I've felt a bit like "piggie in the middle" during these Series mob V's Rangie/Defender/Disco mob flame wars of late. The series guys wont have me 'cause I gotta V8 and constant 4x4 and Other mob wont have me cause I got leaf springs and drum brakes. Lighten up dudes, the Land-Rovers know who the true believers are, and hey if lots of yuppies buy Disco's and Defenders and never take them off-road there will be lots of good second hand Landies in a few years time when it comes to upgrade. (and lots of competition for them from use leaf sprungers with bruised kidneys and skinny wallets :-) Better get back to work -- Daryl Webb (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au) '82 Land-Rover SIII stage I wagon ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au> Subject: Re: Smokey no more ? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 12:28:42 EDT Mike Rooth wrote a lot of drivel about the 2.25 diesel, and its timing. Beware, as I found out, moving the distributor pump just a tiny by, and make a large difference on the timing, I think, for every degree you turn the distributor pump, the timing is moved 2 degrees, so if you turn it an inch, then that will put you timing way out to buggery! As for just moving it to the timing mark, you should have noticed that the timing mark is adjustable! So you are probably better off adjusting your timing properly, it is not hard, its just that everything is awkward to get to! But after what you have said, I might adjust my timing a bit, as my diesel blows soooo much smoke, I am starting to think it was an army one, and it still has the smoke screen device on it! Also what makes me think that my timing is out is that on the weekend I saw friend with a d 2.25 diesel tray, and his started easier, and blew less smoke, and his motor is just about stuffed!!!! ============================================================================== Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86" LROC of Victoria Australia 2.25 diesel LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au> Subject: 1998 and the Land Rover Date: Mon, 28 Nov 94 12:46:01 EDT Howdy doody all! Just writing to tell all of you that I have not told, or do not know, that the Land Rover Owners Club of Victoria is planning a bash or what ever you want to call it, for the Land Rover in 1998. The event will be held around easter in the Kiewa valley in Northern Victoria, and if people know about the one the club held for the 40th anniversary in 1988, then they will be making arrangements before while they are reading this! as in 1988, we managed to make a whole town, just a bussle of Land Rovers, you could not find a place that did not have a Land Rover! So I just thought that I would tell you lot, and give you a little notice about it. P.S. I am not planning the thing, just telling you what I know from reading the club magazine! ============================================================================== Craig Murray 1955 Series 1 86" LROC of Victoria Australia 2.25 diesel LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RRover2486@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 22:01:18 -0500 Subject: Camel Trophy vs. Gucci Trophy While reading a snappy retort from a fellow Rover buddy with regard to Jan's faux persuit of the legendary Camel Trophy, I couldn't help but smile at his suggestion that she might want to compete for the most fashionably equipped Rover. His most appealing suggestion of the Gucci Trophy lingers as an alternative, however, I would ask that you consider Jan's credentials more seriously. I can vouch for Jan being over the age of 21, although she wasn't, 24 years ago when we wed. She is a U. S. citizen who does posses a valid drivers license, although a driving test is not required for renewal. Even though she gets two children to elementary school each morning, through university traffic at breakneck speed, she doesn't hold a professional race or rally license, unless you count the highly coveted V.I.P. University Parking Pass as some form of proof of professional skill in maneuvering through the intense and highly competitive field of co-ed parking. Jan has extensive racing experience, in both working mom and leisure (never on time) class. Jan's travel experience includes spanning the globe in her efforts to expand her shopping envelope beyond the limitations of the major cities of North American with nothing but simple navagational tools including the cellular telephone, a few charge cards and a highly developed skill for recognizing the fell of an exclusive shopping area. When it comes to sports, I must say that Jan has singlehandedly managed the activities of her children to include; ballet, soccer, gymnastics, tennis and swimming. After all of this, a 6 minute mile can easily be arranged. Not to be overlooked are the frequent off roads experiences encountered when the parking lot near the tennis courts or pool are full at the country club; lets face it someone has to take some risks. Beyond this I need only mention Jan's exceptional ability to handle the proper equipment for The Range Rover Challenge, these include Wathne outerwear, Chanel backpack and of course black watch plaid woolen accessories for the Rover from Brooks Brothers. I don't know, you tell me, is she up to the challenge or what? Signed, J. Howard Fisk "the guy who signs the checks" Springfield, Missouri, USA P. S. I *am* serious about a Camel Trophy vehicle!!! ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 02:42:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Confessions(lessons) of a Beginner Peter... Glad to see you had some fun with your Disco..Doesn't sound like you ran into anything that the rest of us haven't done at one time or another. :) Can't help you with chains.. I usually run mud/snow tires with big lugs.. noisy as hell on the road but claw thier way through the snow OK. The only suggestion I can offer is invest in a Hi-Lift jack. You can probably find one at a farm supply in your area (Central Tractor or something similar). Handy device to have. Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) 1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol 1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 941129 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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