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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:33:41 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: My Series II is alive!

Stuart Moore asked:

>5.    Does anyone know where I can find a used right front fender?  I only
> need
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> and
>body filler?

Give Scotty a call at (510) 686-2255.  He may have an extra fender around, or 
know of one.  Otherwise, Rovers North or British Pacific.

>6.    Where is the best place to put a radio in a rover?  What about
> speakers?
>the outside piece.  Seems that the former owner had the right front wheel

Here's one I can maybe help with.  My intention is to (someday) build a 
cabinet over the front windshield, where the sun visors would normally be, to 
house a radio, celphone, GPS, and CB.  I'll probably mount the speakers on 
the bottom of this.  I'll also probably put a couple of minimus-7 types at 
the back by the windows on either side of the rear door.  

I've also thought about a couple mounted on the sides, just behind the 
drivers/passengers head.  

Another setup I've seen is to run a sort of shelf straight back from the 
rear-view mirror, to a cross-wise shelf just behind the front seats.  The 
radio is mounted in the lengthwise part for easy access, and the speakers 
near the sides mounted on the bottom of the crosswise part.  This is good 
because the radio is hearable front and back.  

The third setup I've seen (or remembered, anyway) is to removed the middle 
seat and put in a cubby box with a stereo.  

My 88" currently has the stereo sorta jammed in above the dashboard.  I guess 
you can tell how good I am at getting around to building all these neat 
things I spend my time thinking up, eh?

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 01:05:23 -0800
From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)
Subject: Re: '72 SIII

>Russell finds a SIII
>> I've found someone selling a '72 SIII with a solid frame with only light
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>through. My opinion is that SIII's rust out quicker than IIa's .. at least
>up North. (My SerIII is a study in rust and re-welds!)

make sure to bang on the frame *A LOT HARDER* than you think is
necessary/advisable/appropriate.... also, don't forget to bang on the frame
*REAL HARD*

-jory bell
jory@mit.edu

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Subject: seatbelts
From: dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 02:01:06 -0500

Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> writes:

> 	Anyone out there know when seatbelts were standard in Land Rovers.
> I especially want to know when the seatbelts in back became standard.

    Canada...  seatbelts in the back... Never
               In front it was 1972 when the legislation came in.

--
dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry,            |    Ottawa Valley Land Rovers
Nepean, Ontario, Canada       |    1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean
(OVLR's InterNet site)        |    Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4

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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re:  235/85R16 tires on a RR
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 10:49:11 GMT

To the RR jacker:

235 tires are 9.25 inches wide - what rims do you run?  Ideally the
rim should be no more than 2 inches smaller.  This is why LR don't
fit 750's to SWB rims, but only to the wider LWB rims.  RR steel
wheels are 6 inches wide and alloys are 6.5 I believe (?).  I wouldn't
drive about on 9.25 inch wide tyres on 6.5 inch rims - perhaps this
explains the altered handling characteristics of the original post!

For the person who asked about diameters:  80% is the standard aspect
ratio for radials and is often unstated eg 205R16. The diameter is
then 28.9 inches.  For 235/85R16 it is 31.7 inches, ie an increase in
diff clearance of 1.4 inches.  You could run 7.50x16 crossplys (which
normally have 100% aspect), still get 1.1 inch extra clearance and yet
have a safe tyre for your rim.  You'll also get better digging with
the narrower tyre (assuming that's what you want).  Don't forget the
tyre sizes have quite a wide tolerance and wear can affect diameter of
course.

I run 205 Trackers rear and T+C front with the n/s front being
assymetric for pleasant roundabout work (really!).

BTW, what do you think jacking the RR does to the working drivetrain
joint angles?

BTW2, I recently rejoined the list:  Was the article about bending a
six week old Disco by joyriding backwards a joke?

Cheers,
Steve.  79 RR

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From: "Mr T.stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Military LR chassis underseal
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 10:41:12 +0000 (GMT)

To Russell G. Dushin
I have previously owned 3 ex-military Land Rovers, all of which had the
thick underseal applied to their chassis. I found that as it aged, it
tended to lift away from the metal underneath and retain water against
the metal all the time. This is a serious problem here on the island
because of the ubiquitous salt spray (and the odd boat launching). While
I was rebuilding my last Series III, I had the chassis shot blasted to
remove all traces of underseal and rust. This cost me about 20 pounds at
a Glasgow metal finishers. After a bit of hole patching, I then enlarged
all the drain holes in the bottom of the chassis rails and drilled new
ones in the closed bits, e.g the bulkhead outriggers.
Following numerous coats of Hammerite paint, I poured about a gallon of
Waxoyl diluted with white spirit down the inside of each chassis rail
and turned it over a few times to coat all the walls (strong assistants
recommended!)
I don't know if you will need to use such drastic measures, but I would
certainly advise removing the underseal. The rebuilt rover lived on the
island for seven years until I sold it a few months ago without any
chassis corrosion problems.
	With regard to the battery location, if you remove the air
filter from the front right of the engine compartment and weld in a
battery frame/filter holder from a civilian spec machine, you can fit
one battery there. There should be enough room to fit in a second
battery holder at the left hand front corner for the winch etc. I'm not
sure whether long cables from the back of the vehicle would be such a
good idea because of the voltage drop, but I could be wrong.
I hope these ramblings are of some use to you.

best regards

-- 
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(0475) 530581  Fax:(0475) 530601

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Date:         Tue, 22 Nov 94 09:30:33 EST
From: Brian Willoughby <BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Joe Lucas has stopped by for a visit

Here's an interesting problem I've had recently with my '60 Series II:  When
driving at night, I have found it necessary to use my headlamps.  No problem
with that.  However, every so often, when I arrive at home and pull into the
garage and turn the lamps off, the entire car shuts down as if I had shut off
the ignition.  This only happens at low RPM's as, if I gun the motor, and shut
off the lamps, the car keeps running.  I have that little swith in the middle
of the dash that controls the parking and headlamps and has the key switch in
the middle.  The first time it happened, I was returning home from a short
trip, saw someone I knew and flipped on the lamps to announce "Good day!,"
turned them back off and the car died in the middle of the road.  Every since,
I have always kept the lamps on or off until I reach my destination.  As most

everyone knows, I'm in the middle of a restoration with this car which will
include a new wiring loom, though until that is begun and completed, it would
be nice to be able to still use the car.  Finding out what the cause of this
is would help immensely.  Remember, I'm in graduate school and the restoration
is proceeding slowly since the majority of my money has to be sadly directed
elsewhere.  You can post directly to me or the entire list.  I'm sure everyone
else would enjoy the explanations.  Thanks.
Brian Willoughby
bawill01@ukcc.uky.edu
"May the Prince of Darkness watch over our souls."

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: seatbelts
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 10:43:28 EST

> 	Anyone out there know when seatbelts were standard in Land Rovers.
> I especially want to know when the seatbelts in back became standard.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>  bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil
>  1972 Land Rover Series III 88

Our family '60 88 (a '61 by serial number but bought in the mid summer
of '60) did not have seatbelts.  When the '67 88 arrived it had
'em and boy were we "wowed".  The rear seats did NOT have the
belts in it, however-just in all front 3.

Any '68ers got em?
rd/nige (retrofitted with 5 belts)

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 12:26:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Joe Lucas has stopped by for a visit

Brian, this has happened to me a lot, but I think it is just the
bakelite  switch housing causes the key bezel to rotate enough to shut
off the ignition. Or your thumb or finger brushes against the key and
turns it off. It dosen't take much. I wouldn't worry about it, just turn
the key back on.

But then it could have been designed into the cars Lucas electrical system,
like the parking lights flashing three times when you lock the door.
Later
Jon
>Here's an interesting problem I've had recently with my '60 Series II:  When
>driving at night, I have found it necessary to use my headlamps.  No problem
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>trip, saw someone I knew and flipped on the lamps to announce "Good day!,"
>turned them back off and the car died in the middle of the road.  Every since,
>I have always kept the lamps on or off until I reach my destination.  As most

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From: "Mugele, Gerry" <Gerry.Mugele@wellsfargo.com>
Subject: Seatbelts
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 10:45:00 PST

 Benjamin Smith asks       <<Anyone out there know when seatbelts were 
standard in Land Rovers.
I especially want to know when the seatbelts in back became standard.>>

My '69 88" hardtop had seven(!!!) sets of seatbelt when new.  Shoulder 
Harness for Driver and Shotgun, lap belt middle front and two set of 
lapbelts for both rear bench seats.  Think this was the result of U.S. 
Federal law.  My '67 (bought used) had absolutely no provision for 
seatbelts: no anchors, bolts or anything.  Had to bolt plates to the 
underside to provide attachment points.

Gerry Mugele.

R45 -** Tried to house break my piano - but keep finding a piano stool in 
the living room

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 12:40:31 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Tallest tire to fit on a Discovery?

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Tallest tire to fit on a Discovery?
Does anyone know what tire size is the tallest that will fit on a Disco?
After seeing the rear tire FULLY engulfed by the wheel well, it doesn't
look like a taller tire is possible, as there was barely a finger's
width between the tire and the body side at the rear of the rear tire.
It MAY be possible though, to fit a taller tire if it were narrower. I
noticed that the Camel trophy Disco's have narrow tires, anyone know
what size these are? They look sort of funny though.... Maybe it's just
me, Americans seem to lust after wide tires.

My reason for wanting a taller tire is for more ground clearance.
Someone else posted a note about changing springs on a Range Rover to
accomplish this, would this also be possible for a Disco? Anyone know
what the part numbers of spec's would be?

Also, I read somewhere that the Camel trophy Disco's had a suspension
modification, again, anyone know exactly what that modification was?

Inquiring minds want to know.... (And imitate!)

#=====#                  Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|___|__\___              can change the world... indeed, it's the only
|   |   |  |             thing that ever has.
""O""""""O""                                            -Margaret Mead

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: D-90 only does 90
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 12:36:55 PST

I found out that I can`t keep up with the 100MPH traffic in the 
left lane. The 90 cuts off at 90 MPH. The R-Rover will only do
98 with the roof rack on so I guess its not too bad.....

I also am having some problems with the starter. It looks like
the trip thru the pond might have crudded up the selnoid(sp).
every once in a while all I get is a click. I had to roll it down the
hill the other morning to get it to start. Well that is what warrantys
are for.

I took the d-90 in for the 1000 mile checkup, and while they changed
the oil, they didn't bother with the filter. their cheapewr than I am.

So far I am ave about 16 MPG at 70mph.

Russ

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 14:01:29 PST
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  D-90 only does 90

I recall reading somewhere that the 90 is cutout-limited to 85mph.
Maybe it's really 90 -- that would seem appropriate!!

John Brabyn
89RR

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 16:36:52 -0800
From: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Let's build a glossary

Fellow Net-Rovers:

I received the following question from newbie Jason LaBranch

>Granville,
>I have another question.  How can I learn all the names of parts on
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>Thanks,
>Jason

I replied:

>Regarding terminology.  "Bulkhead" is the British equivalent of firewall 
but on >a Land-Rover also refers to other structural cross-body members 
separating >compartments (as behind the cab area in an 88 = "rear 
bulkhead").  "Gearbox" is >the British term for transmission.  "Main box" is 
the normal (main) >transmission; "Transfer box" is the British equivalent of 
transfer case.  >"windcreen" for windshield, "bonnet" for hood, "hood" for a 
crude soft-top such >as on Land-Rovers and roadsters (but a true 
convertable, with a soft-top which >folds down easily and stays in place, is 
called a "drop-head coupe" --with an >acute accent mark over the "e" on 
"coupe" -- whereas a hard-top, of course, is >called a "fixed-head coupe").  

>The prize has got to be the currently much-discussed "radiator breakfast." 
>There are numerous differences in British english for tools, materials, and 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>spelling (and/or pronunciation), such as "carburettor" for carburetor and 
>"aluminium" for aluminum.  Lots of fun!  There are some terms that I am 
not, >after 2 Jaguars, 15 Land-Rovers, and an Austin, quite sure whether 
refer to >some equivalent American item or really something quite different, 
which has no >Yank counterpart, particularly in the case of certain 
supplies, such as the >much discussed "Waxoil" and "silicone grease."

>Once you have a Land-Rover, you can get a Haynes service manual and find 
most >of the translation in a glossary in the front.  If you buy a Rover 
from me, I >will give you a Haynes manual, as I have an extra one.  
Otherwise, check the >two Land-Rover "web" sites mentioned in the footer at 
the bottom of the LRO >daily digest (one site in Texas and one in 
Australia).  The Texas one, at >least, has an FAQ section which may have 
what you are looking for. If not, it >should probably be added and maybe I 
could be induced to help compile it.

But I checked the Texas web site and found no glossary.  I posted a message 
to Greg Hiner about it and he made the most excellent suggestion that I post 
my original message (above) to the net and solicit your participation.  

Please don't send me the obvious terms that are in the front of the Haynes 
manual, as I can type those in myself.  But there are plenty of more 
esoteric and arcane shibboleths to unearth and I know some of you out there 
will love to tell us what they are.  I will compile and post to net as well 
as sending to Greg for the web.  

Thanks!  Shall I duck?
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[ Granville Pool (Redwood Valley, CA) Appraiser, R/W Agent, LR aficionado ]
[ e-mail: mcdpw@pacific.pacific.net ** Ph:(707)485-7220 H,(707)463-4265 W ]

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 19:41:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Gregory Brown <brow7767@mstr.hgc.edu>
Subject: English parts suppliers on the net

I would like to feed a question out to our friends in the homeland.  Are 
there any parts suppliers in England that have access to the net?  I have 
done some inquiries with John Craddock and Paddock Motors about sourcing 
parts.  They are more than willing to quote based on a fax but, it is much 
cheaper to correspond through the net.  So if anyone can give me help I 
would appreciate it.  
	************************************
My second question is concerning increasing the highway speed of a series 
IIA.  What are the pros and cons of going with an overdrive vs RR diffs?  
I have a fairly strong 2 1/4 with 15" tires.  I thought about going to 
16" tires but I like the 15" with Uniroyal Tiger Paw XTM, good in the mud 
and snow, very quiet on the road.  Are there any other choices that I am 
missing?

Greg Brown
'70 Series IIA 

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:24:04 -0500
From: Andrew Steele <ad158@DAYTON.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject: BMW Diesel?

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't there been discussion about the BMW 5
cylinder diesel being both US emission approved and a bolt in replacement for
RR?

On that assumption, dog, rover and I stopped by our local BMW dealer for the
first time ever to chat tonight.  Actually, it was really pathetic the way the
hungry dogs were just hanging onto me.  Anyway, I was directed to the "pack
leader" whom had just returned from a one week BMW what's new for you type of
class.  He declared no knowledge of any new diesel, barked never in the good
ol USA, said some disparaging remarks about the last BMW diesel vintage early
1980's or there about; then had the gull to try and appease me by saying he
thought they might soon be a Range Rover dealer.  OH PLEASE, Say It Ain't To
Be So.   (Well, I supose I can always stop by anytime to get my boots shined).

OK, maybe my mistake was stopping by while still wearing my tie.  Maybe if I
arrived at the show room with enough light for them to see what's left of the
mud on the RR, boots and any of the greasy jeans, reality would have hit them
a little quicker.   Jeeeeeeeeeezzzze, they hit a sore spot w/me here.

Anyway,  I guess I'll keep dreaming about a complete engine failure.  (Well,
it's the prequisite for a change over anyway.  What with only 80,000 miles on
the 87 RR, I figure another 10 to 12 years should get me to that point)

Sorry for the expressions of fustration- anyway, I still want to describe the
the Columbus Ohio Land Rover salesman's expression as his dealer tagged demo
90 was thrashed in the mudhole in Parkersburg WV two weekends ago -- but maybe
you can guess.  Anyway, I now realize it must have especially pained him as I
commented with fever, that I was sure my LR dealer would never let me test any
of their demostrators, the way he was allowing his to be driven; well say more
like stampeded, into the hole.  

Anyway, suffice it to say, it was a jolly good show!

My rover, my freedom.

AMS and Lum
87 RR
Dayton, Ohio

ad158@Dayton.Wright.EDU

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 23:42:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: English parts suppliers on the net

Greg Brown thinks his IIa should go faster...

> My second question is concerning increasing the highway speed of a series 
> IIA.  What are the pros and cons of going with an overdrive vs RR diffs?  
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> and snow, very quiet on the road.  Are there any other choices that I am 
> missing?
A very long hill with a strong tailwind and Mexican overdrive... Yeah,
that's the ticket...  ;-)

I've been running 16" wheels with (choke) bias ply snow/mud tires for years
now.. I had an overdrive - purchased used - but it got tired so I don't run
one now.. 16" with overdrive was bearable. Recently, I've decided to put 15"
wheels with radials on it.. just for grins.. (Its gonna snow soon and I want
to slide around.. I'm a sick puppy). At 50 MPH the engine sounds like things
are ready to come apart.. Maybe it always sounded that way.. could never
hear with all the tire noise. I don't know. Don't know about RR diffs. What
*do* I know??  16" wheels with good tires.. That would be my answer.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 23:42:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Seatbelts

Seatbelts... Gerry adds his two bits.. I'll add mine..
>  Benjamin Smith asks       <<Anyone out there know when seatbelts were 
> standard in Land Rovers.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> lapbelts for both rear bench seats.  Think this was the result of U.S. 
> Federal law.  My '67 (bought used) had absolutely no provision for 
Don't know what the Land Rover seatbelt story is, but I'm real familiar with
the older Triumph Spitfires. I'm sure that seatbelts were required (by
Federal law) in 1969. I had five Spitfires.. '64, 2 '67's, a '68 and a '69.
(Still have the '64). All had belts but the '69 were totally differant.

My '65 88 has belts... fronts only.. but they say Triumph on them.. go
figure.

Now, another twist to the story.. I believe that the New York State requires
vehicles from 1965 and later to have belts for driver and passenger. I'm
not real sure about it, but I know my '64 TR is exempt. 

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol 

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 23:43:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Let's build a glossary

OK.. Granville.. DUCK (or is it Duckhams??)
I've also hear the canvas top on a Landy referred to as a "Tilt".
Then, there's the ever popular "boot" (trunk?)
How about "wing" (Fender).
One I'm not sure about.. some of my Triumph friends refer to the horn as the
"hooter".
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 21:04:41 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Joe Lucas has stopped by for a visit

>Here's an interesting problem I've had recently with my '60 Series II:  When
>driving at night, I have found it necessary to use my headlamps.  No problem

I, too, have found this helpful in preventing accidents.  [8^)

>with that.  However, every so often, when I arrive at home and pull into the
>garage and turn the lamps off, the entire car shuts down as if I had shut
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
>bawill01@ukcc.uky.edu
>"May the Prince of Darkness watch over our souls."

Sounds to me like either a faulty switch, or corroded or loose/flakey 
connections.  If the latter, gunning the engine would give enough juice to 
jump past the loose/corroded connection, but without that, there wouldn't be 
enough power.  Turning off the lights may be jiggling things enough to switch 
from juice getting through to not making it.

I would say pull the dashboard off and take a look around.  If things look 
okay, wire a switch in parallel for the ignition, switch that on, and see if 
the same problem happens.  That is,

To     <---.------------------.
the        |                  |
rest        / <-- Key switch   / <-- Add this to bypass the key switch
of the     |                  |
car    <---'------------------'

If the problem still happens, even though power can get through the switch 
you added, that means the problem is elsewhere than the key switch.  If it 
doesn't happen, the problem *is* the key switch.  Radio Shack or any 
electronics parts place can sell you key switches (not Genuine Land Rover, 
but intended for garage door openers, security systems, and the like) that 
you can add to or replace the original switch with.  

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 21:04:49 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Nigel has a bed to sleep on

Why not take a few pictures, and send them along with the text of your 
message to Brad for the Aluminum Workhorse? 

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 21:04:47 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Back-issue LR sighting

So I guess Paul & Linda should be added to the Celeb_Rovers list...

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 21:47:15 PST
From: Brad Krohn <Brad_Krohn@ccm2.hf.intel.com>
Subject: Glossary and hooters

Text item: Text_1

Michael writes: 
>One I'm not sure about.. some of my Triumph friends refer to the horn 
>as the "hooter".

Indeed, when I pulled the non-functioning horn from LR, it was labeled 
"Clear Hooters, England." So, methinks there is something to this! I 
have the evidence still.

=======================================================================
"ROVER? WHO DRIVES IT?"                     Brad_Krohn@ccm.hf.intel.com
"That would be telling." -The Prisoner              '69 IIA 88" Bug-Eye
=======================================================================
   

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From: NAVIGATOR2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 01:33:52 -0500
Subject: Land Rover newsletter

I would like to subscribe to your online newsletter.  Address:
NAVIGATOR2@aol.com.
Thanx ; )

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 02:43:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Glossary and hooters

Hey Brad...did ya see them Hooters??

> Michael writes: 
> >One I'm not sure about.. some of my Triumph friends refer to the horn 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> "Clear Hooters, England." So, methinks there is something to this! I 
> have the evidence still.

Indeed! and True!! The workshop manual even has a section devoted to
adjustment of the horns. One section for "Lucas" and one section for "Clear
Hooters". 

Hey Maloney... does this mean we can talk about Hooters and be on topic??

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
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  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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