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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: loss of drive rear differential
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 11:38:03 GMT

Marcus writes:

>Rover rear differential on a 1970 2.25 petrol SIIA LWB Station Wagon?
>The symptoms are:....................

Sound like you broke the bolts holding the crown wheel to the carrier.
The wheel will just spin uselessly.  Take out the axle drian plugs and
watch the bolt heads fall out.  I did this off road once but got out
with FWD and a little help from my friends.

Cheers, Steve.

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 08:53:46 -0500
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Roy & Brad & Marcus

Roy asked:

none
A bit of info I am interested in is which slave cylinder needs the spacer 
under it and how can you tell the difference?  Ok that was two questions.
On this 69, a bugeye-don't know production month, there is a spacer,
and no return spring. 
none

My 88 is also a 69 (ex-bugeye).  The spacer has been removed and the clutch 
works fine (I couldn't get enough travel with it in place).  I was concerned 
that it wasn't working properly with the spacer in place then spoke with Rich 
Zeigler of ABP who said that they can be removed with no ill effect - and that 
he does remove them regularly.  

A return spring will pull the release mechanism away from the pressure plate 
springs/spacer at rest.  What this will cause is that your foot will have to 
take up all this clearance before it engages the clutch- not good.  Skip the 
return spring.

Brad asked:

none
The problem is basically a form of hesitation. When very cold and 
starting on choke, the engine will roar-and-slow-and-roar-and-slow all 
on its own. Taking it off choke, the engine runs fine, although at a 
slowish idle. But if you try to drive off before the engine is FULLY 
warm (with or without choke on), the engine will hesitate during 
acceleration: usually right after shifting to the next higher gear, 
especially second and third. Doesn't die completely, just hesitates with 
the rare backfire. 
none

Try turning your idle mixture screw in 1/8 turn, noting it's position (after 
verifying your ignition system is in good shape).  Take it for a drive.  If 
it's better but not perfect, try another 1/8 turn.  I had similar symptoms on 
my 88 when the weather got cold and richening it up a bit made a world of 
difference.  I'm not certain but it's worth a try.

Marcus asked (rear diff problem):

none
With the engine running and a gear engaged, the prop-shaft turns, accompanied 
by a light to moderate knocking sound from the diff casing, but there is no 
drive.  It happened without warning - my Mum had stopped at some traffic 
lights, and when she engaged the clutch to pull away, nothing happened.  No 
funny noises or anything.  On two previous occasions in the last few months, 
we did here a brief noise from the rear, which sounded as if the prop-shaft 
had momentarily touched a crossmember, though I know this cannot have been the 
case since we were on a level road.
none

This sounds like gear teeth stripped off the spider or crownwheel gears.  
You'll have to pull it to verify the problem, then try to find a used 
replacement diff.  If you're pressed for time/money and don't need 4wd, swap 
the front and rear diffs (yup, it's a hassle removing the front, but it's 
cheap).

------------------------------------------------------------

Did anyone watch something called "The Monster Show" or "Monster Party" or 
something like that Sunday afternoon?  It had a IIA 109 regular w/no top and 
no hoops (tan).  I only caught the last 5 minutes so can't give more details.

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

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Date: 21 Nov 94 08:46:08 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: 235/85R16 tires on a RR

Just FYI I want to mention that I managed to fit a 87' Range Rover 
with BFG Radial Mud-Terrain T/A 235/85R16 tires. Normally, these 
tires are way too big for the RR, but you can do it with a few minor 
modifications and mutilations to the Range that won't cost much (well,
not *very* much anyway).
First, you have to 'lift' the beast by installing HD police specs 
rear springs (parts NRC 4304) and increase the rear body lift a 
further 3/4 inch by fitting a custom made distance piece that goes 
into the top spring retaining member (don't know what its proper 
denomination is) and has a sleeve that fits well into the spring; 
this thing has to be very solid and precision made so that you won't 
have any sort of movement. Up front, installing a regular pair of RR 
diesel springs will do (actually it's not a pair, the lh and rh 
spring have different numbers: NTC 8477 and NTC 8476 respectively). 
No extra lift needed here, *but*: You have to cut away 1 inch from 
the spoiler (or take it off altogether) and limit the steering so 
the tires will stay clear of the radius arms when on full lock. 
Turning rad will increase by approx. 2 meters. For shocks, you can 
keep the regular stock ones, though you might consider fitting HD 
shocks in the rear; I find the rear suspension a bit 'nervous' with 
just the regular shocks.
The immediate effects of this conversion:
'Looks': Very impressive and aggressive (especially w/rhino bars).
Street performance: A *little* noise at low speeds, acceleration in 
3rd gear a bit sluggish, otherwise no noticeable loss of performance
(that's with the 168hp V8); going fast around curves gives a bit of 
an eery feeling, but they stick.
Offroad performance: The improvement is dramatic! You can't believe 
it's the same car. It effortlessly just walks over anything you 
point it at, boulders, logs, sand pits... Haven't tried deep mud and 
water yet, that's for next weekend.
Bottom line: If you take your RR offroad a lot you might want to 
consider this. If it's just your regular on-road family/business 
car, press DEL ...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 09:35:51 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Alternators

Does anyone have a crossover number for an AC/Delco alternator? I used to
run with the standard 37 amp Lucas 16ACR, but replaced that unit with an
18ACR (45 amps); that model fits Jags.  Anyone running with a higher output
alternator that doesn't require fabricating mounting brackets?

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    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Subject: mail for lro@team.net ...
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 09:54:23 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

------- Forwarded Message
Date: 16 Nov 94 17:54:42 EST
>From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re:  ITS ON THE ROAD AT LAST
Message-ID: <941116225441_100043.2400_EHK42-1@CompuServe.COM>

>           I finally got my Series 1 on the road, ...(...snip...)

Congratulations!

>It was noisy, some commented on the fact that it sounded like a tractor.
>It blew smoke.
>It was slow.

#1 and #3 are normal, and it will stay that way.

>that it stops blowing smoke, once the motor starts to settle in.  Any one 
>with experience with 2.25 diesels know about how many miles you have to 
>clock up before the motor is settled in?

The smoking should cease (more or less) after you put some miles (~2000)
on it and a nice compact carbon cake has developed in your cylinders.
You might also want to check the air intake (diesels *love* lots of fresh 
air). And the one thing the old Rover diesel hates is being revved up,
even after having been broken in.

>One thing worried me though, while I was driving up a hill, it all of a 
>sudden lost power, then stalled, for no reason.  I had the ignition 

Maybe there was still an air bubble trapped somewhere in the fuel system.
Did you 'flood' the fuel filter before installing it?? I wouldn't worry 
about it unless the problem reoccurs.

>I am also curious as to what sort of milage other people get out of 2.25 
>diesel Landies, as the only other person with one that I know gets about 
>30MPG no matter what he does, towing a caravan, off roading, but he does 
>have an over drive.

30 mpg is *very* good, almost too good (to be true). In any case, it would
be attributable to the overdrive. Get one! In one of the early LRW issues
which featured the installation of an OD, the Fairey (now Superwinch)
overdrive was dubbed "Gods gift to the Land Rover driver" - and that's
just what it is.

>Also how do these motor perform up the bush, as this is the main reason 
>that I put this motor in, as I heard that they were fairly good up the bush.

They're ok in the bush, *provided*
- - you have sufficient cooling (install the eight-blade 'tropics' fan or
  an additional electric fan - manual switch will do - for extreme thermal
  conditions);
- - air filter is checked and cleaned _daily_ under extremely dusty conditions;
- - the fuel filter is clear (always carry 2-3 spare ones with you).
If these three things are tended to, you'll never have problems.

Enjoy!

Stefan
<Stefan R. jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: /G=Hui/S=Ben/OU2=IL02M/OU=ILBH/P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com
Date: 21 Nov 94 10:37:33 -0600
Subject: THERMOSTATS

now that winter is among us in the north, i would like to now how all you net 
rover think about the use of a spring pressured, american type thermostat on a 
series 2a. generally they use a wax type thermostat but i have just put in a 83 
degrees celcius =190 degrees f. the thing that disturbs me is that the temp 
gauge now reads at the very top of the N and closer to the H then ever before 
although it never seems to get much higher than that one height on the guage 
once it warm and under load. 

any words of wisdom would be highly appreciated.

thx ben hui 
vancouver b.c. canada

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 08:52:25 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Cold Weather help needed

In message <941118172033_1@ccm.hf.intel.com> Brad Krohn writes:
> Text item: Text_1
> Need a hand from the 'net in figuring out possible causes:
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Need a hand from the 'net in figuring out possible causes:
> '69 IIA 88" with 2.25 petrol engine (Weber 34ICH carb, 

Now you understand why the old Solex carbs had electric heating coils in the 
carb.  Carb heat keeps those ice crystals from forming and helps the fuel 
vaporize.

maybe you sould conside getting rid of that new fangled weber & adding a good ol
fashoned Solex with a built in heating element.

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

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From: /G=Hui/S=Ben/OU2=IL02M/OU=ILBH/P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com
Date: 21 Nov 94 10:37:48 -0600
Subject: oil pressure light sender

where can i get a sender unit for the oil warning light?? i now that british 
pacific probibly have them but it is just a simple dummy switch that should easy 
to find.. any suggestions.

i also need to find a brake light switch. i have a series 2a and need the type 
that bolts onto the servo. 

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 10:26:04 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: I bent my L.R. Discovery... :-(

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: I bent my L.R. Discovery... :-(
Much to post from the past several days, but I'll try to be brief, and
post it in several notes.   RE: 1994 Land Rover Discovery....

First, Thursday night, in a *STUPID* maneuver, I drove up a freeway
underpass "thing", no problem, around 40 degree incline. I scraped the
front going up, (no problem, rino bars are "meant" for that, right?) and
of course, the rear (trailer hitch). Low range, V8, locking transfer
case... NO problem at all, actually, almost boring... Then, I backed
down, again, expecting to scrape, but not quite realizing where, I
caught the tail pipe, and wrapped it, and the resonator half way around
the axle, and smashed against the tire, and body panel behind the tire.
Well, the resonator, being very hard, met the aluminum body, being very
flexible... Not a pretty sight! :-O

(Sing along to the tune of "you've lost that loving feeling"... I've
lost that "new truck" feeling, woah that new truck feeling, now it's
gone, gone....)

Quickly, with the help of some passengers, we bend the pipe away, and
now it's hanging about 3 inches from the ground, but I'm OUTTATHERE, in
a big hurry in a futile attempt to save embarrassment from all my
friends that were there. (around 30 or so) Well, as luck would have it,
when I dropped off the other 2 people that I was driving with, I got out
the flashlight to assess the damage, and only at THIS point did I notice
the side of the truck buckling outwards, and the missing mud flap. So...
back I go, driving right by all my friends that didn't happen to see my
stupidity, to pick up Land Rover parts that had fallen off.

So, off to the muffler shop on Friday, for a new pipe around the axle,
and re-installing. To my surprise, the "muffler man" knew what a Land
Rover Discovery was, and even had magazine articles about it. He noticed
the damage, and "desert brush pinstripes" all over the truck, and
chastised his buddy for not wanting to get his precious truck scratched.
Well, at least THAT made me feel a little better about the condition of
my truck, a 6 WEEK old almost $40,000 very used truck. At least the
INTERIOR is still nice... (Oh quick, knock on wood!!!)

Lessons for all to learn from:
 1.) A slight angle would have helped both the approach, and departure angles.
 2.) ANY embarrassing moment will be seen by ALL.
 3.) Be aware of dragging things in reverse, the effect from forward to
     backward motion can make a BIG difference.

Stay tuned.... more to follow!

#=====#                  Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|___|__\___              can change the world... indeed, it's the only
|   |   |  |             thing that ever has.
""O""""""O""                                            -Margaret Mead

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 11:31:35 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Fun with my L.R. Discovery...

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Fun with my L.R. Discovery...
I've had my '94 Land Rover Discovery for about 6 weeks now, and while
I've taken it out for some light 4WD use, have not really done any
medium to heavy duty off roading yet, so using the ploy of going out
shooting with my 15 year old son, we grabbed the .22 rifle, loaded the
truck, and hit the trails. We followed some power pole access roads,
found lots of mud, and had a GREAT time! I must confess though, I did
NOT tread lightly through the mud, and literally had the ENTIRE truck
covered with mud! Even the roof of this high profile vehicle was
covered! So now, I've "played in the mud", I'll try to tread lightly
from now on. Sorry, I just *HAD* to do it!

So we get around 20 miles or so along this trail(s) and end up near a
very picturesque lake (well, more of a pond, really, around 150 feet in
diameter, 50 meters) But enough to sort of remind us of England, where
the truck was "born". Well, not being content with leaving the truck
along the side of the trail, I decide to wander on over to the lake
side, and proceed to descend over a small birm, between 2 trees, and
over a very large rock (about a foot in diameter). The rock was half
buried, and knowing that both my differentials are offset to the
passenger side (unique to Land Rovers???) I "aim" for the rock to go
under my seat. Well, not having enough common sense to know better, and
not having a wife to tell me so, ;) I go over the rock, and then when
the front wheels go over the birm, the LR gets firmly rested on the rock
by it's frame. (good aim, I must admit) and one front wheel is left
several inches off the ground and in the air. "Oops" I exclaim, "maybe I
should back up"? You guessed it, the rear tires were on dirt, front in
air, and frame resting firmly on a rock, I did no more than dig 2 wheel
ruts under the rear tires. So I break out the jack, and after adding
rocks under 3 of 4 wheels, we remove the stuck rover. On our way out, I
happen to notice the jack handles laying right where I left them, next
to "the big rock". I jump out, grab them, and once again, we're on our
way.

During one part of the trail, we descend down a ravine straddling some
huge erosion ruts, and are able to stop the Land Rover with 1 wheel up
in the air, and the opposite wheel FULLY tucked up inside the rear wheel
well. Quite an interesting site! Incredible wheel travel!!! And us
without the camera!!! (I KNEW we forgot something!!!) We make a vow not
to leave home again on a 4WD adventure without the camera!!! My son has
fun playing "teeter-totter" with the precariously balanced truck for a
few moments, and then we decide to press on.

When we get home, I put away the big plastic bin containing my 4WD gear,
and discover that all the airborn bouncing had totally broken the bottom
out of my "box-o-junk", and luckily, I was able to keep it from all
dumping all over my feet. While putting the jack back under the hood, I
discover that I've left the wheel chock (factory equipment) that helps
hold the jack down along the trail, specifically, about 5 feet from
where I left the jack handles, near "the big rock". Sigh... It was
almost dark, and I didn't feel like the 2+hour drive back to get it, so
I decide maybe I don't really need it.

Sunday after Church, (Gotta have my priorities ;) ) not quite had my
fill of 4WD fun, looking for an excuse, I decide to go back and retrieve
the abandoned wheel chock! This time, I'll take my other 2 kids (10 and
11 yrs. old, visitation day) and THIS time, I'll BRING THE CAMERA! Well,
once again, not having the brains to remember, or the wife to remind
me... I forget the camera!!! But at least we have lots of fun!!! And I
retrieved my wheel chock.

IMPORTANT THINGS TO LEARN FROM ALL THIS!!!

 1.) I used a product called "Rain-X" on ALL my windows and head lights,
and not only do they almost eliminate the need for wipers in the rain
(water simply blows right off) they prevented ANY mud from sticking to
the glass, EVEN THE HEADLIGHTS! It literally looked like I had cleaned
off the windows!!! GET RAIN-X!!!

  2.) Keep track of your tools!

  3.) Bring your camera!

  4.) Lot's of mud on your truck is very useful. It hides all
scratches, and minor body damage. And you'll get a LOT of strange looks
from people, and even a few "thumbs-up" gestures from people. I don't
know if it'll be a good "babe magnet" this way... who knows?

  5.) Use your head! THINK things through FIRST! (Duhhhh!) I have
trouble with this one! ;)

Thanks for putting up with me...

Dave Brown - '94 Land Rover Discovery - Phoenix Arizona USA

#=====#                  Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|___|__\___              can change the world... indeed, it's the only
|   |   |  |             thing that ever has.
""O""""""O""                                            -Margaret Mead

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 11:49:07 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Numerous LR Discoverys for sale.

FROM:  David Brown                          Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Numerous LR Discoverys for sale.
Anyone interested in purchasing one of the most sought after vehicles on
the market today, take note. My friend has informed me that the
dealership where he works is being rewarded for improving the facility,
and being allotted 19 discoveries. (Kind of weird, the way the do it...
their allotment of vehicles is affected by customer satisfaction, among
other things.)

Here's a list of what is available, most will be available 11-30-94.

     Color             Equipment              Availability
red                    Full spec              11-23-94
coniston               Full spec              11-23-94
coniston               Full spec              11-30-94
epson                  Full spec              11-23-94
epson                  Full spec              11-30-94
epson                  Full spec              11-23-94
barritz blue           Full spec              11-23-94
barritz blue           Full spec              11-30-94
teal                   Full spec              On site
teal                   Full spec              On site (demonstrator)
red                    aut/rs/sun             11-30-94
teal                   aut/rs/sun/rac         11-23-94
black                  sun/rs/rac/aut         11-30-94
black                  Full spec/manual       11-23-94
black                  Full spec              On site
epson                  Full spec              11-30-94
teal                   Full spec              On site
black                  '94 full spec/manual   On site

Please e-mail me for specific contact information. debrown@srp.gov

No, I don't work for the dealer, I just like this guy, he drive a
early '70's series 3. Great guy.

Looks like full delivery is available out of state too! (Maybe they'd let
me drive it to you?? I DOUBT IT!)

#=====#                  Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|___|__\___              can change the world... indeed, it's the only
|   |   |  |             thing that ever has.
""O""""""O""                                            -Margaret Mead

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Tyres
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 19:13:01 UNDEFINED

/On tyres: I would stick with 7.50x16 size tyres.  Firestone Steeltex Radial 
/ATX 23-degree mud tires are available in this size if you want gnarly, also 
/BFG's Trac-edge (popular in England) for more of a snow tread, and, I think, 
/Yokahama Super Diggers for more of an all-terrain design similar to (but, I 
/think, a little more aggressive than) the Wranglers you mentioned.  
/Interesting that you were happy with the Wranglers, as I have just worn out 
/a set on my Dodge Dakota 4x4 pickup (they were original on it, like your 
/Jeep) and have not been happy with them.  They seem prone to hydroplaning on 
/very wet roads, are worse than useless in mud, and have not worn particuarly 
/well (about 33,000 miles).  I am now trying to figure what I will replace 

This must be due to a different vehicle. Mine have gone 45k adn still look to 
have another 20k in em. They also plug thru mud up to axle depth OK, adn I 
have no problem aquaplaning (and it is VERY WET in Wales.....)

I have also embarrassed Golf GiT's round roundabouts......

I'l be replaceing em with another set.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date:         Mon, 21 Nov 94 15:03:44 EST
From: Brian Willoughby <BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Back-issue LR sighting

I don't know how many people have seen this or know about it, though it is
worth taking a gander at and perhaps adding to your personal Land-Rover
library.  It is the November 7, 1969 issue of Life magazine.  This cover
story is "The Case of the Missing Beatle:  Paul Is Still With Us."  It shows
Paul, Linda, Heather and Mary McCartney at their farm in the Mull of Kintyre
in Scotland.  On page 106, you will again find the happy McCartney family
posing with their Series One, apparently a Station Wagon.  This, by the way,
is "Hell On Wheels," the same Land-Rover that inspired the hit song "Helen
Wheels."  The magazine can be rather pricey since it appeals not only to
Land-Roverists though also Beatles/McCartney fans.  The song can be found upon
the American version of the "Band On The Run" album and as a single, both on

Apple Records and later on Capitol (Parlophone/EMI in Britain.)  If you are
unfamiliar with Paul and his Landie, look up the magazine and the song--both
are great fun.
See you,
Brian Willoughby     1960 Land-Rover 88" Station Wagon
bawill01@ukcc.uky.edu

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: A friend's new purchase
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 17:31:00 EST

Nigel and Co. took a ride on up RoverWorks outside of Hyde Park on 
saturday, and a mutual friend (not me) put a hefty chunk 'o cash down on a 
pile of parts that will someday be a completely refurbished '68 109 
Military pickup.  Added options are to include a cab top and 3/4 inch 
canvas, 12,000 lb warn winch, free wheeling hubs, fairey OD, and a 
salisbury rear.  The head is to be re-worked with a 2.5l cam and pushrods 
(it's got a 2.25 4 cyl petrol in it), hardened valve seats, then fitted 
with a double downdraft weber, 2.5l exhaust manifold, and custom made 2 
1/4" (?) ss exhaust to help smooth the flow of the enhanced intake.  The 
block, tranny, transfer case, diffs are to be examined, "repaired as 
neccessary, then resealed."  (Presumably, all the seals will be replaced 
and anything not to within spec, including the bore, bottom end, etc. will 
be renewed.)  All body parts, bulkhead, and assorted bits are to be 
stripped, primed, and painted, and all appropriate trim will be 
regalvanized.  The frame will be stripped as much as is possible/required 
(military rigs have heavy undercoating), repainted, and re-undercoated 
military style.

Generally, the condition of the parts laying there beneath the tarp in the 
field was pretty decent.  The bulkhead is essentially rust free, the frame 
completely free of any rot with minimal spotty surface action, and the gas 
tank, radiator, springs, etc. all there and in apparently decent shape.  
The rig had about 48K on it when the military decided to retire it to 
civilian life.  The engine itself wasn't siezed and reportedly had decent 
compression.

Coupl'a thoughts/concerns/questions-

For those of you who own Roverworks rigs (like Jeff Berg)-are you happy 
with 'em?  I know there is someone out there who had a few harsh words-
something to do with not using/scheistering original tail lights or 
something-I'd like to hear from you as well.

Will the 3 bearing crank be able to handle the intake capacity provided by 
the weber and the 2.5l to end components?

Where to put the battery?  This was an FFR (fitted for radio), with 24V 
worth of battery, located where the center seat would like to be (remember-
this is a pickup cab, and that center seat could come in handy).  It will 
be converted back to 12V, but likely with twin batteries, which won't both 
fit beneath the bonnet.  How's about the rear storeage compartments???

The frame stripping process concerns me a bit.  This frame is heavily 
undercoated, and while there are no visible areas of penetration, one can 
only imagine what *might* be beneath it.  The stripping process is no 
simple task, and since it is to be re-undercoated when it's done there is 
some reason for concern....

I suggested he consider beefing up the brakes (he does intend to do some 
light hauling and towing with the thing).......go with the SIII power 
assist system.  It shouldn't add that much to the pricetag (pecentage wise, 
anyway) given that he'll likely spring for a clutch and brake master 
cylinder in either case.  Any thoughts?

thanks in advance,
rd/nigel

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 15:06:02 PST
From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn)
Subject: Re:  235/85R16 tires on a RR

Sounds great Stephan!! What is the outside diameter of those tires? I thought
the stock 205 R16's had a cross section figure of 85 too (ie 205-85-R16)
which should only make the new tires about 2 inches bigger in diameter, or
1 inch in radius. Is this not really the case? It seems like the outside
diameter of the 205R16's is about 29 or 29.5 inches, which would be 
about right for an 85 aspect ratio. I guess the 235/85/R16 must actually
be substantially bigger. Certainly, it should be about 1.25 inches wider.
Anyhow, I'd be interested in your observations!!

I must say I like the sound of the improved performance off-road. How
much noise do you get at freeway speeds?

Also, how much ground clearance do you now get under the diffs?

Many thanks for all the info

John Brabyn
89RR

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Subject: seatbelts
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 17:40:50 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

	Anyone out there know when seatbelts were standard in Land Rovers.
I especially want to know when the seatbelts in back became standard.

-Benjamin Smith
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 Science Applications Internation Corporation
 China Lake Naval Air Weapons Center
 bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:23:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Nigel has a bed to sleep on

Russell...

Uh... only one question...  Like, where do you put the jacuzzi??

Cheers
Mike

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:24:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: '72 SIII

Russell finds a SIII
> I've found someone selling a '72 SIII with a solid frame with only light 
> rust on the outriggers. My question is this, I know it is rough to tell 
> with out seeing it but is $3500 a fair price? Way too much or in the 
> general range? 
none

Judging from ads in Hemmings, etc... $3500 sounds good. Check that frame out
*real* well.. bang on it.. poke it with a screwdriver.. Check *above* the
outriggers too.. dirt likes to live up there in little piles and rusts
through. My opinion is that SIII's rust out quicker than IIa's .. at least
up North. (My SerIII is a study in rust and re-welds!)

Any goodies with it - freewheel hubs, overdrive, winch, 16" wheels, etc??
Any dents?? Hows the side marker lamps? How's the front seats? SerIII bottom
cushions tend to split at the seams. How's the engine sound? Tranny? Was it
ever used as a plow truck? (Mine was - tears the tranny up.)

Good luck with it. Let us know more!
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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