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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: ITS ON THE ROAD AT LAST !!!!!!
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 9:29:44 GMT

Craig,
Congratulations,and welcome to the Oily Wads Club.
I had the same thing happen to me just after I had rebuilt
my engine(Dropped a valve,bad news).It just died.And like
you,started first go,and has never done it since(touch wood).
All I could assume was that there was air in the fuel line,
and that said air was blown out in its last gasp.
As for the smoking,well,if you ever get it to stop,tell me
how!Having the injectors set up helps,as does timing the
distributor pump.But the bottom line is I think it will always
smoke a bit.Should get better as the engine warms up,though.
Cant help with bush performance,I'm afraid.We havent got any:-)
Have fun.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Diesel pump specs reqd
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 9:38:27 GMT

> I have a diesel pump off of a late 2a 88 , a CAV DPA type to check over 
> for a friend. Does anyone have any technical specs on this unit so I can 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
> FourFold Symmetry,            |    Ottawa Valley Land Rovers
> Nepean, Ontario, Canada       |    1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean
> (OVLR's InterNet site)        |    Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4
There is no data for the distributor pump,even in the Workshop Manual.
It says somthing like "return to manufacturer".The message being,"Dont
fiddle with it".
I'll look up the injector pressures which *are* in the manual.Mind you,
I wouldnt fiddle with *them* either.Reconditioned ones are relatively
cheap.Its not just the pressures you have to set up,but the spray
pattern as well.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 06:27:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Brooke on Letterman last night

Ben writes...

>         Last night Brooke Shields was on the Letterman show.  The only
> part that was relivant to this list was she mentioned Andre's Hummer.  And
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>         How old is that Hummer?  And the transmission died?  Too bad
> Russel and Nigel we're around to show up the Hummer.

I was talking to a pipe-smoking buddy of mine (who is some sort of motor-pool
mechanic in the US Army) a couple of years ago and he said the biggest
problem with the Hummer *is* the transmission. He says with the diesel and
the automatic tranny, basically any idiot can drive it.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 08:01:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Jan Hilborn <jhilborn@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: What is a bugeye?

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 Spenny@aol.com wrote:

> Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?

 my bugeye (just called The Rover cuz it was my very first and boy oh boy 
did i learn a lot) was a 1969. an early 1969.
 
 jan

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Date: 16 Nov 94 08:50:36 EST
From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: Bugeye

Spenny Writes:

>> Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?

Actually, the Bugeye was a response to Australian regulations that required the
headlights to be in the wings.  The factory made the fast change to react to
that regulation and then engineered a proper change on the SIII, but all
vehicles, not just the ones for the Australian market, were changed.

Cheers, 

R. P. Reid.

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Bugeye
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 14:24:57 GMT

> Spenny Writes:
> >> Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
> Cheers, 
> R. P. Reid.
Ahh...not *quite* true.The headlamps on my '70 S11A are exactly the same as
a S111.Many of the "changes" on the S111 were already in place on late 11As.
Not all by any means,but many.For instance my wheel nuts are 1 1/16".In fact
a late 11A can be a most confusing machines to order spares for.....
cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Kenner)
Subject: Re: What is a bugeye?
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:18:43 -0500 (EST)

> What kind of breakfast cereal do YOU eat?

	Varies depending on what I was consuming the evening before as
	a dinner substitute... :-)

> Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?

	Canada as well.  Since it was initially done to conform with
	Aussie lighting regs, it would be in that market too...  Generally
	I'd say quite a few markets could have them kicking about.

> I was under the impression that bug eyes had 2 sets of headlamps, one set in
> the wings, recessed in my case, and one set in the -er, breakfast, or as we
> call it here in the US, radiator panel.

	Nope, one set, though I forget the details on how/when the 
	breakfast grill changed size.

	Rgds

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Subject: bears repeating one more time...
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:55:29 -0600 (CST)

It was discussed here earlier, but it bears repeating:

  McBride Auto Ads
  585 Prospect Avenue
  West Hartford, CT  06105
  203-523-1622

These people (upon request) will send you auto ads removed
from old magazines.  I requested Land Rover ads.  I got
38 to choose from.  The black/white ones are $2 each and
you must pay the postage ($2.81 each way).

So, Jan said I could get 5 and it was a hard choice.  There
were more like 8 that I really liked.

Went down to the local frame-it-yourself store and put some
matboard frames around them.  This was a fun adventure -- the
people told you how to do it and only charged you for what
you used.
           green matboard for frame  $4.69
           foam backing board        $7.69
           misc supplies             $1.00

It came to pass that the board was big enough for 6 prints
so I (logically) conviced Jan that we should get one more.

I now have mounted in Land Rover Green artboard frames:
- What does a Land-Rover do on its weekends off? (It works. Hard!)
- Where do old Land-Rovers go? (To work.)
- Over 40,000 skilled British workers emigrate every year.
- Back in 1951, some people thought the new Land-Rover was a bit
  expensive.
- Land-Rover for Smooth Roads.
- I trust my life to my Land-Rover every time it rains.

These advertisements were produced during the British Leyland
era and I like their subtle sense of humor.  I plan to hang
them at work -- my hope is that they will trigger conversations
and that we can talk about more interesting stuff than work
related topics.  Total cost for the 6 -- $32est.
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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
 
         "...you are what you drive..."
 
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                               - xx
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:03:51 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John Hess)
Subject: tires and 6 cyl engines

Howdy gang,

        I don't want to waste the electrons but would like to solicit input
on a couple of items. 1. Tyres.   On the jeep I used to own were
good(year?) wranglers.  They came on the thing new and IMHO were just fine.
Not too noisy and for my off roading, worked fine;  I did manage to cut a
sidewall that then collapsed on the freeway but ....
Without starting a tire war, could I get opinions on tires for a 109?  Thanks.

Second, (not only for Robert Davis)  What is (are) the differences between
the european 6 cyl land rover engine and the NADA 6 cyl.  Are they
completely different everything?  From the rovers north catalog, some 6 cyl
parts are available and some NADA are not.  The reason I ask is that the
dormobile I am buying has the 6 in it.  As it is not a NADA I would like to
learn a bit about it while I spend the next 10 long days before going to
pick it up and drive it home.

Feel free to email me or post to the list.

Not yet a rover owner, but soon,

John Hess, PhD                    Phone me 916 752 8420
Dept of Human Anatomy             FAX me 916 752 8520
University of Calif               Email me jfhess@ucdavis.edu
Davis, CA                         or leave me alone, your choice.

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 08:57:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bugeye

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, Mike Rooth wrote:

> > Spenny Writes:
> > >> Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
> cheers
> Mike Rooth
Here, here- 

My Rover feels so transitional........

Morgan H.
1969 IIA

P.S. the headlamps in mine are just like the ser. III.  On the original
Rover quest, I visited (what the guy said was) a 1967 IIA, and it had
bug-eye (regular IIA bezels) headlamps on the wings.  I didn't know any
 better at the time.

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Date: 16 Nov 94 17:54:46 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Six cylinders

Robert Davis (robdav@sunshine.vab.paramax.com) confessed:

> (...snip...snip...) I like the six cylinders and think they
> will give good service if you maintain them.  Please no chatter on 
> ...

...and if you have access to free fuel (that's no chatter, just a fact) :->

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 23:01:39 GMT
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:55:16 +1000
From: rwalker@dolphin.fen.qut.edu.au (Rodney Walker)
Subject: HELP - Interchangeability ??

I have just bought a '58 series I 109" ute as a parts vehicle for my
'55 series I 86" SWB. The parts vehicle is located about 3 hours west
of where I live, and I go out to it when I need parts for my '55. I am 
going out this weekend to get a truckload of parts off of it and I need
to know how interchangeable are the front and rear diff components.

My front diff is trashed, bad chrome, bad uni's etc. But the parts 
vehicle seems to have excellent chrome and good uni's. Are the two 
diffs totally interchangeable for parts. Are the ratios the same? I don't 
want to have to pull out the whole diff, just the parts that I need since
it is only me going and I don't think that I could throw a front diff
into the back of my Jeep withou doing some serious damage.

Also what is the current price of the orig. ser. I heater in the UK. I
tried to price one locally yesterday and they said forget it.

Basically I am having difficulties getting any new parts here. I seem to
have to rely on parts from wrecks. What is the new parts situation for 
series I landrovers like in the UK.

Thanks for the help

Rod

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Rodney A. Walker			     phone: +61-7-8645187
Space Centre for Satellite Navigation	       fax: +61-7-8641517
Queensland University of Technology	     email: RA.Walker@qut.edu.au
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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 20:25:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: What is a bugeye?

Bugeyes.. Breakfasts grills.. Whatzis all about??  

> > Seriously, Bugeyes were USA, 1968 only? Correct?
none
----snip---
 
> > I was under the impression that bug eyes had 2 sets of headlamps, one

----snip---

>         Nope, one set, though I forget the details on how/when the 
>         breakfast grill changed size.

Ok... The Bugeye question is clear enough..  but exactly why the term
"breakfast" and is it just the grill or the complete radiator panel??

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Subject: 109 / 110 dormobile swap
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 20:10:18 -0500

>From what I can make out, it should be possible to make a 110 dormobile 
if you had all the bits from a 109, plus a series 3 windscreen.

That is, the overall dimensions of the 109 / 110 are the same, including 
the door opening, so, presuming that a 109 dormobile was a 2a, replae the 
windshield with a series 3, that gives you the common mounting to the 
bulkhead but gives you the correct top of the windshield configuration.

then carry on with the rest of the dormobile top. Now if you carry this 
one a stage further then you will realise that the carawagon military 
commanders vehcile conversions to 109/s would also be possible.

Any comments?

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry,            |    Ottawa Valley Land Rovers
Nepean, Ontario, Canada       |    1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean
(OVLR's InterNet site)        |    Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4

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Subject: kids story book
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 20:28:00 -0500

For anyone who really knows me, the fact that I collect anything with 
"Land Rover" on it will not astonish.

A few years ago while donating plasma at the local Red Cross, one of the 
nurses came over and showed me a book that she had for her kids.

It is called "Farmer Barnes and the Snow Picnic", it recounts a tale of 
winter woe in 109 truck cab in merry ole england, endured by the Barnes 
family.

The author is John Cunliffe and was first published in '74 by Ander 
deutsch ltd in london uk.

The ISBN # is 0 233 96572 6  those librarian types need it to track it 
down!

IF ANYONE HAS ACCESS TO A SALEABLE COPY i'M YOUR BUYER!!!

Does anyone know if this book is still available?

Regards

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry,            |    Ottawa Valley Land Rovers
Nepean, Ontario, Canada       |    1016 Normandy Crescent, Nepean
(OVLR's InterNet site)        |    Ontario, Canada, K2C 0L4

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:22:37 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption

Does anyone know the North American numbers for the upper, lower and 
short rad hose that goes between the thermostat housing and the pump?  
I need to replace all the larger hoses and if the smaller tapered one is 
available as after market, let me know the number.  I suspect the tapered 
one is special order and expensive.  There must be some NAPA or other 
replacements available.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: 16 Nov 94 23:50:27 EST
From: "Stephen O'Hearn" <72700.3262@compuserve.com>
Subject: Drain plug for R380 5-spd

I've looked and looked but can't seem to find it. Frankly it's not there.
However, there is a slot open at the bottom of the bellhousing. Am I blind
(could be) or is there no drain plug on the R380? This enquiring mind wants
to know!

I've seen the Defender hard top (well, ok, pictures) and it looks good. I
think I'll remain a soft top owner. I'm lucky, I have that option here in
SoCal. I'll get somebody else to drive on the ski trips.

Never heard anything about Zeibart undercoating. Any comments out there?

'Nuff said.

Stephen O'Hearn
'94 Defender 90

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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:31:51 -0700 (MST)
From: James Spyker <jspyker@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Re: Series I Fuel Tank For Sale (f

     
    I'm a proud new member of the Land Rover Owners circle having fulfilled a 
 long time dream to own the ultimate 4wd this summer.  I managed to 
 purchase a 1967 Series IIA and what is registered as a 1969 Series IIA 
 but appears to be a 68.  Both had been sitting in a field for a couple 
 years but the 69 had a new rebuild on the engine , new tires, roll bar, 
 and some oddball seats.  A little coaxing with fuel down the carb after the
 initial preperations she fired right up and dorve 300 km home.  The 67     
 unit needed more work, and was beyond my funding and time availabilty so 
 has since been sold.
     
 All this is a long way to get to the first point of my message which is:
     
 Series I fuel tank for sale.  In excellent condition with what appears to 
 be a working sender.  Reasonable offers.  Please leave email to 
 jspyker@ualberta.ab.ca
 
     
 My second question is about the availability of a cheap source for road 
 spring in North America, preferably Canada.  Mine are sadly worn and 
 practically rest on the bump stops.
     
 My transmission also makes the noise described by someone earlierr, a 
 reliable friend suggests that it needs new bearings all around.  Is there 
 anyone with some tips before I set to rebuilding it.
 
     
 It is great to finally find this list on Internet, it will really help 
 me when I move out of Edmonton to the remote areas of Northern Canada.
     
 Thanks for your replies in advance.
     
none

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