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1 William Caloccia [calocc9[not specified]
2 LANDROVER@delphi.com 21Re: Waxoyl availability
3 Gregory Brown [brow7767@11no digest
4 jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John91tools, supplies and travel plans
5 "Stephen O'Hearn" [7270025Lost digest contents
6 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000416The dog ate my digest!
7 Craig Murray [craigp@ocs16Troubles & the digest mode!
8 Steven M Denis [denis@o23Re: Another Rover Adventure begins...
9 Randy Parker [75300.265421Popular Science award to Discovery


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Subject: Re: empty digests...
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 94 19:44:17 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@sw.stratus.com>

The digester got a little hungry.

The corrected versions should be on their way

-Bill

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 03:01:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Waxoyl availability

Bob...
I believe that Russell got his Waxoyl from Moss Motors.. 

Moss supplies all sorts of British sports car stuff. They are in Goleta,
California. Order phone # is 1-800-235-6955.
The last flyer I have lists Waxoyl for $48.95 for a 2.5 Liter kit. 2.5 & 5
liter refils are available.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       
                         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
                         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 08:23:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Gregory Brown <brow7767@mstr.hgc.edu>
Subject: no digest

Help!!!  My life support is failing...   I am recieving a digest from the 
server but it only contains a listin of the messages and then ends.  I 
can't believe that I am the only one, and you probably already know this 
but better to inform than deny.

Greg

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 10:54:49 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John Hess)
Subject: tools, supplies and travel plans

Howdy rover folks,

I've been printing out all your suggestions and making a list of what to
carry for my cross country trip.  This is the list so far.

Manuals:

the factory workshop manuals AND the haynes manual.
LROA list of members

Supplies

consumables like oil (regular and 90wt.)  BTW what is regular?  I use 20-50
in the tiger, 30 in the mazda.

Grease gun  (I have decide against carrying this.  I can carry a tube of
grease and/or I will pay a garage $20 to borrow one for an hour or have
them do it for me).

Fix a flat in a can.

brake fluid (clutch also, DOT 5)
brake cleaner
carb cleaner  (what's the practical difference?  ie brake cleaner cleans
and evaporates, do I need both?)
permatex hi temp gasket material

ignition parts: distributor cap, rotor, condenser, coil.
do I really need a set of spark plug wires and new plugs?
12 guage wire and wire nuts plus electrical tape.

rebuild kits for brake and clutch master and slaves, wheel cylinder rebuild
kit,
spare hub seal and gasket.

open end wrenches, socket set, pliers, hammer, gasket scraper, plug gapper,
points file, fine sandpaper, wire
toothbrush, flashlight, large and small slotted and cross screwdrivers

My comments
1. I don't think anyone mentioned rear axle half shafts (axles?, axle
shafts? whatever you want to call the things that have a nasty reputation
for breaking)  I don't want to carry the things with me, but would it be a
good idea?  Could they be changed on the side of the road?

2. Hub seals: with constant driving, I assume if they are in good shape,
they will be better lubed and not leak on the road.  Is this wrong?

3. Someone recommended a head gasket. Maybe, but really?  Then I need more
coolant and oil than just top off amounts.

4.  jack, lug wrench and jack stand.  I have to check on the jack and lug
wrench (does the dormobile have these already?)  but I've used my socket
wrench on the tiger.

5.  sae and metric wrenches???  I was expecting to have to buy whitworth or
something like that.  Does land rover actually use metric stuff?

Thanks for reading this, more answers and advice always welcomed.

My initial plans are Saturday--west out of maine, into nh to go to a quilt
store at center harbor (at the north end of the big lake).  continue sat
either A) to rovers north (not sure of hours or location, but it just seems
like a place I should go) or B) south and west to so. vermont, northern ma.
sat night somewhere, motel, campground, national forest, ??   sunday,
scenic drive south and west (west ma), crossing the border into NY,
stopping to see russell dushin.   Maybe spend the night with russel,(thanks
for the invite!), maybe cruise farther south.  would like to spend the
night, but would like to be in washington dc by monday night, so I might
want to get farther south on sunday.

I would like to spend all of tuesday in dc.  I plan to entertain the kid at
air and space museum, see some of the monuments, including the vietnam vet
one. maybe get out on wed.  (we can fly to dc at some later date to see
everything;  don't really need a dormobile in dc, do you?)

from DC, west to mammoth caves. either another long day or two short days.
from mammoth, south and west aiming for austin texas.  still looking at
national park, sightseeing and other books.

enough for now,

John Hess, PhD                    Phone me 916 752 8420
Dept of Human Anatomy             FAX me 916 752 8520
University of Calif               Email me jfhess@ucdavis.edu
Davis, CA                         or leave me alone, your choice.

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Date: 13 Nov 94 14:54:43 EST
From: "Stephen O'Hearn" <72700.3262@compuserve.com>
Subject: Lost digest contents

The digests I received for 12 and 13 November both ended with the standard
"END OF ..." message but this came immediately after the contents list at
the start. Was it something I said? I did shower both days. I don't recall
saying anything anti-LR or anti-digest (although I am considering the
latter).

There were some messages regarding Defenders that I would like to see. If
someone could repost them or email them directly to me I would appreciate
it greatly. Thanks. (Maybe it's Compuserve?)

Has anyone out there had any experience with Ziebart undercoating? While
my Defender has an extremely thick coat of some oil-based goop on the
visible areas of the frame and underbody I figure that a reapplication
of something every few years wouldn't be a bad idea. BTW is this thick
undercoating a factory thing or a LRNA thing (or dealer)? I know that
Mike Fredette has talked about a paraffin wax coating but this stuff
seems to be in addition to that.

Stephen O'Hearn
'94 Defender 90

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Date: 13 Nov 94 16:47:30 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: The dog ate my digest!

                  * The dog has eaten my digest! *
Yes, from the last two digest mailings, the actual body of the digest was 
missing. It just contained the usual Internet mailing header, the contents
listing, and the digest trailer. In between: Nothing! Could this be a
Land Rover-sensitive cancelbot launched by alt.cars.jap.trash and associates?
Just wondering...

Totally blind,

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Troubles & the digest mode!
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 9:06:01 EDT

Hi all,
        Am I the only one who is getting the digest, and it is missing all
its content over the last two days or what?  All I get is the list of 
contents and the footer, but nothing else!

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Craig Murray                                            1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                              2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia             (Currently on Digest Mode)
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                           (Currently no brakes!)

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 18:34:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Another Rover Adventure begins...

Whoa! I just told Mike that he could take the camper to go get a pizza! I 
wondered what took him soooooo long....*A THOUSAND MILES ROUND 
TRIP!!???!* (you'd better change the oil,bub....)
Ok the real rover reason for this interuption...
The Issue of "You know what" that has the picture of "you know what"
is May 1992 pp. 118-119.ummmmmmm
*I* do not *have* this publication...Nancy grabbed it and won't give it 
back.......oops,she is reading this over my shoulder..... *WHACK* ooooo that 
was a particularly *thick* issue......

steve.......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: 13 Nov 94 19:44:16 EST
From: Randy Parker <75300.2654@compuserve.com>
Subject: Popular Science award to Discovery

Excerpted from a Land Rover North America press release:

Calling the Land Rover Discovery "unique in its class," Popular Science has
honored Land Rover North America's latest offering with their "Best of What's
New" award (honoring "innovative products and achievements in science and
technology for 1994") in the December issue. 

 "The Discovery, with impressive standard trim such as a 182-horsepower fuel
injected aluminum V8, dual air bags, four-wheel ABS disc brakes, and a riot of
storage compartments, promises suburban civility," wrote Fred Abatemarco,
Popular Science Editor-in-Chief.  "All of this is elegantly grafted onto the
hallmarks of Land Rover engineering:  full-time four-wheel drive, long-travel
coil-spring suspension, and aluminum body panels sheathing a welded steel box
frame." 

-- Randy Parker <rparker@world.std.com>

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