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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: looking high and low...
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 11:42:25 GMT

Jimmy,
The soft top you describe sounds a good bet.How much was the
asking price?Footwell repairs are often rough(mine are)but
seem to last reasonably well (eight years to date).Do you
*mean* the diff lock knob,or the yellow 4WD knob?The steering
box cover under the offside wing costs little to replace,as
does the gear lever rubber boot,if it offends you.
If you really dont want a truck cab,fair enough,but they have
advantages in winter inasmuch as there is less cab area to
heat!I've seen secondhand hardtops advertised at between 100
to 150 quid.Again,the asking price would be interesting.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Vinalhaven Rover
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 11:45:03 UNDEFINED

/While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land 
/Rover a Car or a Truck?  In my opinion anything that wades through 

The correct. British term for it is a LORRY. Dont know what word Damnfurriners 
would misuse.

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        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 08:08:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Jan Hilborn <jhilborn@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: Vinalhaven Rover

On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Dixon Kenner wrote:

> > While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land 
> > Rover a Car or a Truck?  
 
 it's a vehicle. (of course, everything in Vermont is a "vehicle" 
including a horse drawn wagon, a bicycle, and a road grader...). We like 
that gender neutral non-descriptive sorta language....
 (my own vehicle is registered as a car (cuz once, long ago, it was 
cheaper that way) but i refer to it as a truck (or a vehicle))
 

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Vinalhaven Rover
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 14:00:12 GMT

> /While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land 
> /Rover a Car or a Truck?  In my opinion anything that wades through 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>         Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
> +++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I reckon Jan's closest with vehicle.In truth,its neither car nor
truck,nor lorry(actually,lurry is the old term),its a Land Rover.
There was a great deal of ministerial soul searching when it first
came out over this(money based,as usual),dear old Aunty BBC referred
to it as a "Field Car",'cos they werent allowed to advertise by using
REAL NAMES.In the end they all decided to call it a Land Rover.There
just wasnt,and still isnt,anything else like it.It still makes me hoot
when the Beeb does a report,which if it involves a Land Rover,the
reporter calls it as such,while any other make is a ahem...4X4..er..
thing?What price advertising now?
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 09:55:18 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: Rovers for Sale

Mike McCaig just sent me a list of Rovers he has for sale...it's going in
the next newsletter to be out in a week or so, but I though I'd give you
knuckleheads on the list a shot first.
1) 1964 109 SW.  It's ugly but complete and mechanically sound. With enough
parts to make a nice Rover. $2,000.
2) 1965 109 2 door. Nice body, runs well.  Good restoration project.  Full
length top and HD springs. $2,500.
3) 1968 88. Goes where you point it! Capstan winch, rear PTO, many extras.
Very good condition. $5,500.

Call Mike direct at 804-581-1331 evenings or weekends or E-Mail me back
direct and I'll get a message to him.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
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    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 08:45:30 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Vinalhaven Rover

When I purchased my 109 it had expensive comercial plates on it (required in Cal
if you have a truck including a pickup).  When I registered it, I asked for 
cheaper car plates on the grounds that the pickup top was removable and it could
be a topless car like a jeep CJ, ot I could put a full size top on it so it 
would be like a station wagon.  They looked in their books & decided to call it 
a utility car, same as a CJ.  I got the cheaper plates.  of course a copule of 
years later I traded them in for historical plates, but thats another story.

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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From: "Mugele, Gerry" <Gerry.Mugele@wellsfargo.com>
Subject: Neither Beast nor Fowl
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 94 09:02:00 PST

> While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land
> Rover a Car or a Truck?

Gee this is an easy choice.  A Land Rover is a Land Rover.  If its owner 
chooses the deluxe hard top and all the seats; clearly it can serve as a 
car.  If its owner wishes to haul gravel and attaches the 3/4 cab, removes 
the bits to the rear of the seat bulkhead and uses the tailgate; certainly 
it is a pickup truck.  And outfitted as a Dormobile it is a mobile 
home/camper and then there are the armored vehicles, camera platforms, farm 
implements, and so on...
Therefore, it can best be referred to as a Land Rover (and forget about the 
ignorant heathens that don't understand the significance of that).

Gerry Mugele   '72 88'
RM46 - ** Strip mining prevents forest fires

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From: dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Kenner)
Subject: Re: Vinalhaven Rover
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:15:55 -0500 (EST)

> There was a great deal of ministerial soul searching when it first
> came out over this(money based,as usual),dear old Aunty BBC referred
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> reporter calls it as such,while any other make is a ahem...4X4..er..
> thing?What price advertising now?

	A friend of a friend was over to dinner recently (at Sandra's
	as Dale and others will attest, I can't cook) and much to
	my surprise kept refering to all 4x4's as Land Rovers.  She
	described her vehicle as a Land Rover made by Jeep.  Kind of
	refreshing for once...

	Rgds,

	Oh yeah,  Poor Dale.  Complaining of a lack of sleep after
	going on a cruise ship for the weekend, wants to sleep to
	such an extent his beer consumption is down and was
	whining about talking about Land Rovers last night...  Very
	sad...  Drop him a note to perk the poor boy up and get
	him enthusiastic about  finding an engine crane so we
	can yank his oily diesel out Friday.

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:16:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Jan Hilborn <jhilborn@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: is it a car or is it a Lorry?

 
 When i registered Holly (my '71 88") as a car he had a full length hard 
top. Sometime later i switched to a cabtop (altho the registration stayed 
the same).
 This caused some trouble in New York state when an alert Policeman 
matched my plates (Vermont DM355) with those of a known troublemaker 
(known to NY police anyway)... the known troublemaker was also Vermont 
DM355 but was a Ford *truck*. I had some explaining to do to convince the 
nice police officer that my vehicle really wasn't a truck (he grasped 
pretty quickly it wasn't a Ford...). The department of Motor Vehicles 
here in beautiful Vermont also spent some time talking with him before he 
let me drive *my* DM355 away...
 
 jan

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Subject: you can trust your Land Rover
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 13:40:35 -0600 (CST)

I wanted to get onto the roof of the house but all
3 of my ladders were 100 miles away at a remodeling
project (yeah, that *is still* going on).  I needed
to get some plastic off that was covering the
chimney (do this every summer).  We wanted to have
a fire and watch the US election results.  What
to do?  Backed LULU up to the house and it
was like walking up stairs -- bumper, bonnet, rooftop
and roof.  Worked great.

I told Jan during the tv session (at least 5 times) that
you can trust your friends (insert LULU here) to not let
you down.  The RR couldn't do this and you wouldn't even
consider the MGB.  And the neighbors weren't home.

She did not generalize this friendly example and pointed
out that we didn't need another "ladder".

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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
 
         "...you are what you drive..."
 
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                               - xx
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 11:44:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Gregory Brown <brow7767@mstr.hgc.edu> ponders:
>  While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land
>  Rover a Car or a Truck?  In my opinion anything that wades through
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>  car.  (It is a babe magnet... but that is another subject).  Well
>  what are the opinions out there?

It's a station wagon.  That's what I keep telling the people at the 
insurance company.  Picture: Bradymobile from hell.

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/justfred/fred.html
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Date:         Wed, 09 Nov 94 15:03:40 EST
From: Brian Willoughby <BAWILL01@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Are L-Rs cars or trucks and LRO & LRW Subscriptions

Land-Rovers are considered cars by what was once an authority in this matter:
World Cars.  This fine publication is no longer in print though was produced
yearly up until '85 by the Automobile Club of Italy.  The oldest copy I have
been able to scrounge up is a '74 edition and Land-Rovers are listed under
The Rover Company Ltd. along with the P5Bs and P6 2200s and 3500s.  It is
interesting to note that Jeep was not listed until much later and the same
goes for Toyota's Landcruiser and Nissan's Patrol, both of which have been
made since the late '50's.  The L-R set the standard as being a car.  I prefer
to use the term "field car" to refer to mine.  That denotes that it is neither
purely a car or a truck.  The only problem with such classification schemes is
what to do with the pick-ups.  They do not receive listings beside their

fellow L-R brethen.  Also, mine is registered in Missouri and that state
classifies it as a car.  (That's assuming that the DMV actually knows what it
is in the first place;  some drone there titled it as a 1960 Jeep years before
I bought it.)  In Kentucky, you can have your choice, car or truck, as you
wish.  I prefer to think of it and to call it a car.  It removes all the
Bubba and his Red-neck friends associations that most people tend to conjure up
when referring to trucks.  After all, would the Queen really inspect the troops
in a truck?  Remember, too, that when the L-R was introduced, the British
taxmen did not know what to do with it.  They couldn't decide what the thing
was and for a while, one of the benefits of owning a L-R was that you got out

of paying taxes.  Finally, a special tax rate was devised for the L-R.  And
what of the BBC.  Remember that they refused to use "brand names" on the air
since this was considered advertising.  Rover got tired of the Beeb calling
their vehicles "Jeeps" or "trucks" and insisted that the BBC use the right
term.  I believe that this is one of the few products ever bestowed such an
honour during that period of time in the 1950's.  So, I guess that L-Rs are
neither cars nor trucks, though just Land-Rovers, a class they have to them-
selves.

Now, does anybody have the American subscription information for LRO and LRW
that they would share with me?  I would be much obliged.  Thanks.

Brian Willoughby
bawill01@ukcc.uky.edu
1960 Series II Station Wagon 88"

Somebody was wanting to compile a list of names; mine is H.R.H. L. R. Rafiki.

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Subject: Shock Absorbers
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 13:00:33 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

	Now that I'm gainfully employed, it is time to start replacing
parts that need to berplaced, but aren't dead yet.  One of the first things
on my list are the shock absorbers.  The current ones are on their last
legs (one is leaking oil) and I haven't the foggiest idea if they are
genuine parts or whatever fit.  In anycase I haven't been happy with the
shocks and want to fit heavy duty shocks.  I figured this would be a 
good idea since from now on a lot of my driving will be on washboarded
dirt roads.
	While I was down at British Pacific last weekend getting a new
starter motor  (New ones are nice, no need to undo the bolts to the
exhaust pipe/exhaust manifold junction any more) they mentioned gas
shock abosrbers.
	So my question is: What are the advantages between heavy duty
hydrolic shock absorbers and gas shock absorbers? (I hear gas ones run
about $80 US apiece)

-Benjamin Smith
----------------
 Science Applications Internation Corporation
 China Lake Naval Air Weapons Center
 bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: Are L-Rs cars or trucks and LRO & LRW Subscriptions
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 15:32:42 -0600 (CST)

Brian Willoughby was bold enough to point out...
>fellow L-R brethen.  Also, mine is registered in Missouri and that state
>classifies it as a car.  (That's assuming that the DMV actually knows what it
none

FOR THE RECORD:  LULU is registered in Missouri as a truck.  The
way I remember it (2 years ago):
1. the black truck license plates look better.
2. trucks drivers won't get ticketed for not wearing seat
   belts
3. in my case, truck insurance was cheaper -- I don't
   know why, its the same vehicle.
4. trucks have higher GVW limits when pulling loaded
   trailers, but nobody is checking.
5. Seems to me there was something to do with the annual inspection
   but I can't remember.
6. I don't know the $$$ situation, but it should be pennies.
The lady behind the desk asked how it should be titled and
I said "truck" mostly cause of #1.  I also had the
same choice when the RR was titled (truck too, #1).
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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000
 
         "...you are what you drive..."
 
- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU, aka Experimental)  - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)                   - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                               - xx
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 13:38:40 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Dormobile conversion company still there?

Does anyone know if Martin Walter Ltd, Dormobile Works in Flokestone England 
still supports Dormobiles with parts?  If yes, anyone have a FAX number for 
them?

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
LINK: TWAKEMAN              
408-974-2344                         TR3A - TS75519L, 
                       MGBGT - GHD4U149572G, Land Rover 109 - 164000561

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: 1001 uses for Waxoyl
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:44:24 EST

Last weekend I brought Nigel up to the local power-washer and
got all the gunk off his underbelly.  This caused great concern
of the owner, as his water reclaimation system was apparently
taxed quite heavily, or so he thought after looking at what 
had been removed.  "Can't you read??  No washing the motor!".

"I'm not washing the motor, just cleaning off the chassis."

"What's all this grease and grime, then??  I tell you, stop
washing off the motor......"

"But, but....this is a british car-there's grease and grime
EVERYWHERE."  I kept on going, since I'd just dumped ten
bucks into the thing and my time was clicking away.

After the cleaning I let Nige dry out overnight.  On sunday, and
before the rain arrived, I broke out my fresh waxoyl kit I purchased
from Moss Motors and started sprayin' him down.  It took me awhile
to get the hang of it.....initially, I just scanned the can for
directions but found none-it was only loaded with "what-to's" and
not "how-to's", and besides, it was self explanatory....just spray
it on.  After my first unsuccessful attempts at spraying (it was
like oozing snot on a wand) I looked more carefully at the instructions.
Ahhhh,"shake well before using" and "may be diluted with 10% mineral
spirits" were written on the can.  I took a long hard look at the
stuff in the can and decided it needed more than a shake (and all
attempts at shaking seemed to do little good)....so I marched up
to the house, threw on a large kettle of water, heated it up on
the stove, removed the heat, and tossed the can into it.  20 
minutes later it was free flowing and could even be shaken.  Back
out to the field (Nigel's workspace), crank up the pump, oozing snot
again at first, then like magic it sprayed just like it was supposeed
to.  Threw a total of two gallons onto the boy's frame, springs, axles,
and assorted other underparts, being careful to get it into those
nooks and crannies so often filled with rust and crap.  Grapped a rag
and soaked it in the gook, then wiped down the entire body.

When I was finished I went back up to the house to clean up.  Looked
in the mirror and my hair was standing straight up, like it usually
does but even more so.  Then found that I could make it do anything I 
wanted, and did my impersonations of everyone from Eddie Munster to
Bart Simpson to James Dean.  Never was much in favor of hair tonics
nor moose, but this waxoyl stuff is definately for me!

rd/nige

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 18:56:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 1001 uses for Waxoyl

Russell has fun with Waxoyl....

> After the cleaning I let Nige dry out overnight.  On sunday, and
> before the rain arrived, I broke out my fresh waxoyl kit I purchased
> from Moss Motors and started sprayin' him down.  It took me awhile
   -snip- 
> When I was finished I went back up to the house to clean up.  Looked
> in the mirror and my hair was standing straight up, like it usually
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> Bart Simpson to James Dean.  Never was much in favor of hair tonics
> nor moose, but this waxoyl stuff is definately for me!

And it's a dessert topping AND a floor wax, too!

HEHEHEHEHe

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:09:24 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: A Land Rover is a . . .

>While I am writing I want to pose a question to the digest. Is a Land 
>Rover a Car or a Truck?  In my opinion anything that wades through 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>greg
>'71 IIA 88, Never Washed Since I owned it.

It's neither; It's a *vehicle*!

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:09:19 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Status of my 109

Sounds like the damage is not too bad!  That's definitely good news!  

Your Rover sure means a lot to you.  I can sympathize, though living in the 
city (with Muni & Bart) I don't need a vehicle that much.  Glad to hear she's 
almost completely ship-shape!  

I would have room for both Rovers, if only I could figure out what to do with 
my mom's dead citron [misspelling intentional].  }8^{  But they're both 
waiting for some work to be done:

The 88" was smoking so bad I got reported to 1-800-exhaust on the way to 
Scotty's.  The engine also seems overly noisy, and gas mileage is pretty bad 
(about 10 mpg mostly fwy with radial rovers and no od).  These are all 
probably the same problem.

The 109" desparately needs an oil change, which I could probably do myself 
without screwing it up too much, but better safe than sorry, eh?  Also, the 
parking brake linkage fell apart or something.  And then of course, there's 
the <clunk> when ever power is applied or released from the drive train -- 
probably that sloppy rear diff.  

So they're both at Scotty's for now.  I've told him "no hurry", and you know 
he's not getting a whole lot done in a hurry anyway these days.  Plus, yours 
and a few others take precedence, I figger.  I also take the bus to work to 
try and cut down on congestion and smog, though I don't know how much longer 
that will last.  (Muni never gets anywhere on time, so I miss the free 
shuttle, so it ends up costing more than driving, even at 10mpg, and it only 
takes 10min by car versus 1hr+/- by bus.)

I do miss them, but I get to see them pretty often.  Plus I've got the net, 
my miniatures, mags, photos, etc. to keep me happy.  <g>

Anyway, sorry to ramble so...

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:09:07 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: looking high and low...

>This weekend I saw a 1960 88" truck cab that has been owned by an
>enthusiast for a while. He stripped it down to the chassis and repaired
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>jimmyp@netcom.com                                 work  0344-382114
>jimmyp@rahul.net

I dunno about the *cost* of converting a pickup to a hard top, but I can't 
imagine that it would cost too much over there to pick up some sides and a 
top.  

Doing it is a piece of cake.  If *I* can do it, *anybody* can do it!

Also, if you're planning on bringing back to the states, hang on to the pick 
up top -- they're hard to find over here.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Car or Truck
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 19:06:27 PST

I think the proper English interpretation of Land-Rover is square
box on wheels.  A Land-Rover is more like a kids go cart.
It can be whatever one wants, Car, truck, boat, submarine,
Jungle gym (ask my daughter), flower planter, or any think else 
ones imagination can come up with. I even think I can use a 
D-90 as a 100 mile a day commuter vehicle.
To classify a Rover as a car, or truck is short changing it. Think
of it as a tool of your imagination...

Russ
 

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 22:45:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: rust.....

at least its not a *diesel*"too cee vee"
On the rover front,we got 2 wings (1 good), bulkhead,sorta so-so.fuel 
tank..*was* good.....transmission..who knows..and a diesel engine that 
"*did* run".....no *sh-t*, man...it would have been one *hell* of a salesman 
to move a vehicle off the floor that didn't run....I guess i shoulda 
asked "who was president when it ran last?"  it seems to be seised....but 
all I have is the small crank to turn it with and a big old "Let's build 
us a *BUMPER* Earl" that kinda gets in the way of a clear shot at the 
crank dog......
If I get this thing to run and drop it in the 109sw,(can a Land Rover 
actually cringe?) can I join the internatioinal order of practicing 
momentumists? These are the velosity impared indivduals that take out 
their frustrations on fellow motorists by spewing soot hither and yon 
The leader of this (in)famous group resides in the northern reaches of 
the UK,near a body of 80 proof water with the most unlikley name of "The 
Firth of Clyde"...I'm *sure* it was called something else,but the 
locals,being sloshed by breathing the fumes from their beer soaked 
sweaters,could only manage that garbled reply when asked for the 
name....<grin>

steve.......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 20:28:46 -0800
From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (john hess)
Subject: cross country trip

Howdy all,

I just lost my first letter and don't feel like typing the whole thing over.

Key points were:  please don't ftp to my computer during 8-5 california
time.  I can't predict how my actions over the net will impact your
attempts to download photos but ....

I am saving all your suggestions and have a couple of questions so far.

6 cyl 2.6 engine.  I would feel better adding a lead substitute to the gas
so as to minimize the chances of burning a valve.  Any suggestions?

Anyone have big objections to running dot 5 silicone in the brakes and
clutch?  I do on my Tiger and the soon to be new to me rover has it now.

Can I bypass a broken brake booster with a length of brake line and a
connector if I need to?  I did in my tiger but it's just a touch lighter.

Any pointers on driving with the OD?  Use, shifting, oil level checking?

Any pointers on FW hubs?  Do they really have to be engaged 10 miles every
50?!  I think that's what I read somewhere.

Bye, cheers,
post here to answer me directly

PS  ijust picked up the october LROI at the local magazine shop.

john f hess phd (wow, really?)
jfhess@ucdavis.edu
from home via modem
A

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: looking for love in all the wrong rovers
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 21:40:29 -0700 (MST)

Silli Spenni scripsi:
 
< SWM, SWB looking for SF, SWB or LWB, interested in land rover repair, driving
< around without my top, and leaking fluids. I'm somewhat rusty and in need of
< new rubber, can I show you my layshaft?
< What, isn't this alt.singles.dirty rover chicks?
< Silli Spenni (Sorri, Sali)

Screwi Sali says no need for apologi, but beware the self-lubricating
wench.

T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
Universiti of Denver Librari  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

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From: dkenner@emr.ca (Dixon Kenner)
Subject: Re: cross country trip
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 01:55:31 -0500 (EST)

> 6 cyl 2.6 engine.  I would feel better adding a lead substitute to the gas
> so as to minimize the chances of burning a valve.  Any suggestions?

	With no mmt in the gasoline, or other real lead substitutes that
	I can think of, I'd say this might not be a bad idea.  The last 
	thing you want to have happen is to have problems with the 2.6.

> Anyone have big objections to running dot 5 silicone in the brakes and
> clutch?  I do on my Tiger and the soon to be new to me rover has it now.

	Nope.  Obviously just don't mix with something else.

> Can I bypass a broken brake booster with a length of brake line and a
> connector if I need to?  I did in my tiger but it's just a touch lighter.

	Good question.  I don't see why not, but the bore on the master might
	be smaller than on the 109 4cyl Station Wagon, thus inadequate
	braking.  (A 109 can be a pig to stop...)
 
> Any pointers on driving with the OD?  Use, shifting, oil level checking?

	Check often, keep it topped us, use only in 3rd and 4th gear.  It
	is for the highway, not mud slogging.

> Any pointers on FW hubs?  Do they really have to be engaged 10 miles every
> 50?!  I think that's what I read somewhere.

	Unless you are driving long distances on the highway, I'd say leave
	them engaged all the time.  The front shafts need to turn to 
	throw the gear oil about for lubrication.  Otherwise the seals 
	etc. could start to dry out.

	Rgds,

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