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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:29:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Rovers as a babe magnet

"TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com> warns us:
>  magnet.  Sorry guys, I don't know any women who would want to come into 
>  contact with a really dirty Land ROver unless she is dessed for the 
>  occasion and in a mood to get dirty.

But this is the sort of woman I'm looking for, one who would want to come 
in contact with a really dirty Land Rover, one who is always in a mood to 
get dirty.  Some of the best times I had with my last girlfriend were in 
Death Valley, or Mexico, or on some dunes somewhere trying to find the 
rollover point of her Suzuki Samuri (slowly, treading lightly of course).

But then, I'm the sort of person who thinks a woman can look sexier in 
90-wt stained overalls than in lingere.  Go figure.

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/justfred/fred.html
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"Beaten paths are for beaten men" - _Unix Shell Programming_

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:42:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

"Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> goes on to say:
> On the flip side of this coin........is your 109 a "Hunk" magnet??  If
> not, then maybe you just keep it too clean!

I heard that once on 'Car Talk' a woman was trying to meet a guy of a 
certain type (woodsy, hunk type) and wanted their advice and they 
suggested she look in the paper for guys advertising Land Rovers, and 
call them up under the guise of wanting to buy the car.  They did not go 
on to suggest:

-That they should go ahead and buy the LR.
-That anyone selling a Land Rover is a fool (why would you want to get 
rid of one?
-That anyone selling a Land Rover has probably already bought another 
Rover to replace it.
-All the recently mentioned benefits of LRs for the environment (by not 
washing them we encourage floral diversity).
...and so forth.

BTW if anyone is interested I'll be selling two nice Rovers to make room 
for a new, thrashed one which I now prefer.  More on that later.

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/justfred/fred.html
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"Beaten paths are for beaten men" - _Unix Shell Programming_

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:48:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Women WhoLike to Get Dirty

By the way, I was talking to a friend the other day who's gay, and he had 
a boyfriend over - I was showing pictures of my 109", topless and in all 
it's flaking paint, dirt-covered, would-have-rusted-away-by-now-if 
-it-weren't-aluminium glory.  His assessment:

"It's _so_ butch!"

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/justfred/fred.html
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"Beaten paths are for beaten men" - _Unix Shell Programming_

"I don't worry about things.  I do things.  I get things done."
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:59:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Fred Heald <justfred@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover names

David Brown, DEBROWN@SRP.GOV wonders:
>  Has anyone compiled a list of Land Rover names? I've had mine for one
>  month (Tomorrow) and am beginning to want to call her something. Is this
>  a LR thing? Am I losing it? - (What little I have left to lose, that
>  is.)

I nominate you to compile the list, but I'll start out with my names:

70 88" soft top "RhinoTf" (Rhino Tough, from the tire ads)

84 Range Rover "Strange Over" (after I rolled it and put in a roll cage, 
before the engine dropped a piston in the middle of the Utah desert)

67 109" station wagon "!KUNGSAN" (What the bushman of the Kalahari call 
themselves, roughly 'the people'.  The kalahari bushmen are said to be 
some of the most contented people on earth - they work about 2 hours of 
the day, and spend the rest of the time singing, dancing, and...well, 
that bushman wild thing.)  Later "Rovergnugen" after I coined the word.

65 109" pickup I never bought, used in a commercial for a Japanese 
amusement park, green: "GOJIRA" Japanese for 'Godzilla'.

65 109" pickup, as yet unnamed, perhaps "UMKHOMBE" or "IJIJI", both 
african words for Rhinocerous.

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
WWW Home page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/justfred/fred.html
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"Beaten paths are for beaten men" - _Unix Shell Programming_

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 11:08:38 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: 95 US national rally

>I'll keep y'all posted if and when I hear more.  Maybe Ray or Russ can
>help me with Peter's name -- he was at the 94 national rally ('92 also
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
>University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA

Roger's lucky if he remembers his own name, let alone someone else's!  Heck, 
I'm lucky I can remember where I live, most of the time.

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 11:08:36 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: looking for love in all the wrong rovers

There are a fair number of LRO's who are ladies; some of them are even 
single.  Maybe we should start a Land Rover Dating Service?  

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 11:08:34 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Liscence plate "names"

Someone has been maintaining a list of both names and license plates.  My 109 
is "INDY 1" (both plate and name) becuase I'm an "Indy" (independant 
consultant) and because of the indiana Jones sort of look.  (Yes, I even have 
a whip to go with it.)  

My 88" hasn't got a name yet, but the plates are "SFARI 88".  

Check with your DMV -- they probably have a list of the plates already taken. 
 (That's why the 88" isn't ON SFARI.)  

I take it you only get 6 characters in Arizona?

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Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                               

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 03:04:24 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Washing a LR?

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Andy Woodward wrote:

> /Is it out of the question to try and make my LR a litle cleaner looking?
> /Or is this against some sort of code?  Every LR I have seen seems to look
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
> They use a special detergent-soluble aluminium. The only way to make em last 
> is to build up a protective layer of mud.
> Do not flout teh wisdom of generations.

Also, if you get dents, the paint will flake. If you don't wash it the dirt
will protect the metal. If you get deep dents and dive in mud, just take a
metal ruler and scrabe the side and let it dry. No more dents.

When i bought Lawrence in march, it was dirty. I didn't was it. In fact i
also believe in an eco-balanced system. Until recently i used to park besides
the house where i have my flat. But that became too expensive (parking 
gestapo's). I now park on a nearby side road with real trees. Come spring and
summer, the trees will drip juice on the roof, which will hopefully 
nurish the microscopic seeds that are in the air. I can have a regular 
garden on the roof with green plants, flowers and perhaps a small tree. 
Problem is though that i have to remove the park bench every time i 
install the roof rack. Another great advantage is that if an eco-freak 
comes up from the front to comment the truck, i can alwasy direct his 
critical eyes to the roof. And if he notices the heavy smoke from behind
coming over the roof, i can tell him that it is the morning mist you 
always see in fertile vegetated areas. If i let things grow on the window 
channels it will look like the flowerbeds you sometimes see on peoples 
balconys. I might even win a prize for making the town more beautiful.

Wash my truck?

NEVER!!!  

+----------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Soren Vels                 | 1976  sIII  109"   2.25 petrol |
| velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk     | "Lawrence of Arabia"           |    ((|||))
| Royal Danish Air Force     | Dansk Land-Rover Klub no. 3564 |   ((|||))
| Communications Specialist  | DL-RK: Approx. 1000 members.   |    ((|||))
+----------------------------+--------------------------------+__((|||))______

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 04:01:20 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Exhausted

Hi all,

Lawrence is back on the road again. I finally found a cheap supplier. 
DL-RK members get 20% off parts that are already cheap. So i ordered a 
silencer. It shouln't take more than an hour to change the silencer. HA!

The bolts were the most rusty ones i ever saw. I had to use both a drill and
a hacksaw and a few other tools. And every time i touched the pipes, 2 
pounds of gunk fell down on my face. 
Next time i change it will be the whole exhaust. The pipes will outlast at 
least one silencer so i will use stainless steel bolts and copperease at the
silencer flange. And perhaps on the manifold flange. Stainless bolts and nuts
can be 5 to 10 as expensive as regular ones, but i really find that it's a
resonable investment. 

I will also use stainless when i change springs and shocks. 

Does any netters have experience with such bolts/nuts and did you save time?

Yours

+----------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Soren Vels                 | 1976  sIII  109"   2.25 petrol |
| velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk     | "Lawrence of Arabia"           |    ((|||))
| Royal Danish Air Force     | Dansk Land-Rover Klub no. 3564 |   ((|||))
| Communications Specialist  | DL-RK: Approx. 1000 members.   |    ((|||))
+----------------------------+--------------------------------+__((|||))______

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 1994 17:16:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Things to do on a Saturday....

Well.... Steve said "I bet this winds up on the net before I get home."

Yup!

Steve is smitten with diesel fever (and other things that I won't mention
here) and bought a Rover Diesel engine from Atlantic British. What they
didn't tell him was that there was still a 109 frame attached to it. So, he
stopped by my house on Friday night with his VW Syncro and a borrowed
trailer. 

Now, I've seen said trailer hauling a Citroen 2CV. It fits very nicely.
Let's see, a 109 is the same size as a 2CV, right? YOu're all starting to
get the picture....

Saturday morning, bright and early.. (OK, about 9AM) we took off for AB.
Upon arrival we found the diesel engine. Also present were the wheels,
axels, tranny/transfer case, firewall, front wings and frame.. all held
together apparently by the drive shafts. (prop shafts for those across the
pond).

A couple of come-alongs and a Hi-Lift proved sufficient to coax the beast up
onto the trailer, at which time we discovered it didn't quite fit. No
kidding! Here it was, the left side wheels on the trailer bed, the right
side wheels on the trailer side rails and most of the rear wheels hanging
off in space... The local constabulary would have a field day with this!!

We did get assistance from Bob (late of Atlantic British, currently building
portable rock crushers - really!) who offered the use of his fork lift to
get the whole mess properly on the trailer. Lifting the 109 with the
forklift proved to be amusing. We still had the come-alongs attached at
the front and with the frame so weak in the middle, the Rover just bent up
in the middle for a bit (about 18 inches) before the wheels started lifting.
Some alternative plans were suggested but after careful consideration we
removed the wheels and set the remains down in-between the trailer rails. It
fit, with the axels supported by the hubs so we re-positioned the
come-alongs to keep it all on the trailer and continued to load up stuff....
Yes.. More stuff. Steve was getting back his old 109 6 cyl firewall and we
still had to put the wheels from the diesel somewhere on the trailer.

Needless to say, it all looked like a great rolling junkheap behind the VW
and to complete the picture we left a trail of rust as we headed out!

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 23:25:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: FAQ

where do i find it?  e-me direct so as not to waste bandwidth..
thanx
steve

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:32:36 MST
From: rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.com ( ROY CALDWELL )
Subject: Rover Name List

Dear people,

For some time I have been interested in the names and stories 
of naming that you all have.  I had a fairly good list going
and then my terminal crashed and took the file with it.  Since
Fred has brought the issue up in his recent post, let me try
a list again.  But here is the deal.  Send by e-mail your name
and story, year and type of rover and I will start the list 
over.  Also add if you have a personalized plate that relates
to either the Rover, its name or you.  Since there are now a host
of new people on the list I guess it is time to give it a go.

Thanks,

Roy Rovers in the Rockies - 
Sharing time with Wicked Wanda a 58 Series I, 88
                  Coyote Sister a 62 Series IIA, 88
                  New lady, no name yet a 69 Series IIA, 88

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