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1 LANDROVER@delphi.com 33Re: 90 hard top
2 maloney@wings.attmail.co167Mid Atlantic Rally
3 "R. Pierce Reid" [70004.21New Famous Person/news
4 CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR 19LR World Mag
5 hiner@mail.utexas.edu (G17Peirce Manifolds
6 bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman6Subscribe
7 Jon Humphrey [jh5r+@andr38M-A-R-R = Fantastic
8 berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff 170Re: Mid Atlantic Rally
9 Mike Fredette [mfredett@62[not specified]
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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:40:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 90 hard top

TeriAnn considers surgery for her 109...

> drought to my attention that the fiberglass pop up tops on Doormobiles are
> the 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> if the vertical pop up top on post-'68 VW campervans would fit the top of
> a 109. 
I'm a bit confused TeriAnn.. I have a '71 VW Westfalia and the camper top is
hinged at the front. The pre-1968 Westfalias had the top that popped up
vertically.
As to the Dormobiles, the only VW I've examined up close was a 1970 - and I
took a good look at it in comparison to the Westfalia. The Dormobile top is
the same design as the one used on the 109 but as to the dimensions, I
couldn't say.
You probably could adapt the Westfalia fiberglass & canvas to the 109 but
the only thing you would gain is a bit of headroom with the top up. The bunk
that goes with it is only about 5 1/2 feet long and unless you are short is
pretty cramped. Another point to consider is that the Westfalia top is
actually two sections.. the hinged front part and a fixed rear part which
serves as a small luggage rack and provides for a "weather-tight" seal with
the whole mess closed up.
Good luck with it, whatever you do.
Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern)       

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 08:44:29 -0400
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Mid Atlantic Rally

I got back from the Mid Atlantic rally Monday and what a great time.  On the 
trip down I caravaned with Ben Smith in our last hurrah before he leaves for 
CA this week.  I sure will miss him.  Aside from my leading us miles out of 
the way to get gas and depositing my gas cap at one of the stations, the trip 
down was pretty uneventful.  I did discover that my CB doesn't receive worth a 
damn.  I got plenty of exercise push starting Ben's Rover at each gas and one 
rest stop.  Unfortunately for Ben the only starter for sale at the rally 
looked pretty poor with dirt on the Bendix gear and shaft.  Once I arrived 
Mike_____, the landowner, was kind enough to lend me an extra cap as none of 
the vendors had any.  I'll be sending it back shortly in better shape than I 
got it and with a new seal. 

There were quite a lot of Rovers and 10, YES 10, LRO internetters in 
attendance.  The list consisted of: 

JEFF BERG- Immaculate Marine blue IIA 88 Softtop restoration 
RUSS BURNS- Metallic blue Range Rover 
SANDY GRICE- Marine blue 88 with roof rack and dual jerry cans on the back 
JOHN HUMPHRIES- Very straight white IIA 109 PU w/big bloody winch & Lassie 
MIKE LODICE- Rabbit that kept dieseling the whole weekend & darkplugs 
BRUCE MCERNEY- With a Rover car (2000 ?) 
MYSELF- Royal blue IIA softtop 
BEN SMITH- Rugged Marine blue III 88 hardtop with roofrack & Warn winch 
ANDREW STEELE- Blue-Grey Range Rover and big tan Rover dog 
KEITH STEELE- Marine Blue III 88 since new with a burned exhaust valve.  He 
spent a good deal of time troubleshooting a dead cylinder then found the 
exhaust valve on #1 had negative clearance.  I hope he made it home to 
Michigan OK.  I posted him a note yesterday and haven't heard back yet. 

I think this may have been the largest gathering  of LRO netters so far.  It 
was really neat being able to connect the names with the faces. 

Dixon Kenner was noticeably absent, but 7 other Canadians were in attendance 
bringing 4 Rovers.  It has been said that Dixon once hooked a chain to a 
wheeless Saab and pulled it around a campground at 2:00am.  You'd think he 
could have pulled his wheeled Saab across the border.  Steve Denis was AWOL. I 
assume he was on one of those social trips to VT that weekend.  Russ Dushin 
was also missing.  Must have been out doing the rumba with Brookiekins.  Russ, 
you should have been there.  Your fancy footwork on the dance floor would have 
served you well dancing through the minefield of dog turds randomly placed 
about the tents, parking and catering area. 

Yes there were dogs.  Lots of them.  Sandy's, Andrews, and John's seemed to be 
the only dogs that were kept tied up.  One of the two Disco owners went to 
great lengths to set up their campsite VERY neatly.  Everything was just so. 
They brought out one nice green folding chair and placed it at a 45 degree 
angle under their awning.  Then another nice green folding chair was placed 
under the same side of the awning 45 degrees in a converging direction.  It 
was so cute.  Then one of the dogs came up and hosed down the chair... and got 
a boot in the ribs.  It was difficult to keep a straight face.  

Another dog got a boot trying to spray a chair with someone in it.  One more 
dog got a boot going after a kitten on a string.  I don't think I would have 
been so kind had the kitten been mine. 

Friday night was fun getting acquainted with faces both old and new.  Sandy 
kept Land Rover videos going for all who were interested.  One was a LRNA tape 
showing tips for dealers on developing sales tactics for Defender 90s.  One 
method was to get the customer excited about the fun aspect of the vehicle, 
then close the sale before the customer considered the reality of owning a 
canvas topped truck.  Definately not for public viewing, but very interesting. 
 It was a surprisingly cold night for camping.  Another "throw all the clothes 
in your bag on top of your sleeping bag" night. 

Saturday morning Bruce McErney of British Rovers provided some worthwhile tips 
on improving Land Rover performance and fuel economy.  Steve Johnson of 
Dixieland Rovers arrived with a trailer full of parts.  Another vendor arrived 
with a second trailer full of parts.  Unfortunately, no bargains were found at 
either. 

After lunch came the trials course.  A rather twisty path through the woods 
with a stream crossing and a small mud hole.  There was a substantial dip at 
the entrance and as I passed a log there were lined up on it a neat row of 
Range Rover bumper end caps that had parted from their parent vehicles.  The 
stream crossing was fun.  Choose your angle then give it a little gas to get 
your momentum up, cross and regain control before plowing into a pile of 
people.  Ben was stationed at this point to pull the Range Rovers out of the 
stream.  Very enjoyable and if you were careful nothing got damaged.  But not 
everyone was careful.  One of the 110s creased a rear quarter panel, a Range 
Rover shattered its air dam, a 109 blew 2 (bald) tires and a couple of others 
bumped into trees.  As you came off the course there was a section of logs set 
up so that alternate wheels were articulated at the same time.  Then up and 
over a 4' mound to the finish line.  I believe the winner was the Series 1 and 
the prize was a Camel Trophy lighter and something else I've forgotten. Sandy 
said he saw me stop and back up at one point.  This clearly shows how urgently 
he needs new glasses. 

That evening there was a barbeque dinner of ribs, pork (?) on a bun (very 
good, whatever it was), hush puppies, Brownies, and other good stuff.  A 
couple of kegs helped quench the parched and a very good bluegrass band kept 
us entertained by the bonfire (was that John Humphries playing the Banjo at 
one point?).  Good food, good friends, and a good time.  Potato cannons boomed 
into the night (I didn't see one myself, but was told that they consisted of a 
tube open at one end, a shot of hairspray, a potato, and an ignition source). 
 Later that evening Steve Johnson of Dixieland Rovers entertained us from 
2-5am with the sound of his generator powering his flood lamps as his group 
drank the night away (they also drank the morning, afternoon, and evening 
away). 

Sunday before noon was a road rally to get to a catered lunch.  It helped to 
have no rally experience because a fork was a T, a T was an opportunity to 
turn, and an intersection was the entrance to a plant with a sign saying 
Employees Only Beyond This Point.  The instructions to turn in the direction 
of East and North were also challenging as I had no compass and it was so 
close to noon that solar navigation was out.  I can't say what it was like 
because everyone was gone once I reached the finish.  Most of the others did 
enjoy it and I beleive Jeff took 3rd place. 

Sunday afternoon the teeter totter cometition was held.  Very entertaining.  I 
didn't know that Ben was so limber as he contorted himself in an effort to 
balance his 88 on the contraption.  I think he'll be seeing a chiropractor 
this week.  The Series I driver cursed and punched his steering wheel as he 
stalled his Rover, then dropped his jaw as he realized he was balanced at the 
top.  A small group then headed off to do some serious off roading nearby. 

In the evening Sandy posted the results of the Feely Meely- a box with several 
Rover parts inside where you had to reach through a bag to feel and identify 
the parts.  One had "Land Rover Part" listed in each blank, which was 
essentially correct.  Sandy would have none of that, however.  I had one 
rather creative answer that for some reason Sandy would not announce.  I've 
forgotten what the prize was.  There were no prizes for creative answers. 

A silent auction was also held.  People wrote their bids on a sheet by the 
item in question and the highest bidder got the item.  If there were 2 or 2 of 
one item the top 2 or 3 bidders could purchase the items at the highest bid.  
The items and top bids included (forgive my inaccuracies): 

Camel Trophy Zippo lighter - $100 (yup, $100 or more was the top bid) 
Camel Trophy Belts - $22 +(?) 
Camel Trophy book - $60+ 
Multi-pick-axe tool - $65+(?) 
Land Rover enamel sign - $32+ 
Camel Trophy T shirts - $19 - There were 3 of these and somehow one person got 
2 and Ben who should have gotten 2nd choice got the last choice.  I can't 
fault Sandy as he couldn't be everywhere.  There may have been others but I 
can't recall them. 

A raffle was held for a bike rack and a pull pal, a winching device that digs 
into the ground as an anchor for the winch. 

Videos continued as it began to rain on and off into the evening.  Steve 
Johnson thankfully left taking his generator with him. 

Monday morning I left in convoy with Jeff well before dawn.  My CB was next to 
useless.  One thing I learned is that when convoying with another vehicle the 
trailing vehicle gets the better gas mileage.  Even if it has a full roofrack, 
winch, hardtop, and double plated frame (and the lead vehicle is a softtop).  
But more importantly, it's less mentally taxing, in that you don't have to 
keep one eye on the rearview mirror (sorry Jeff, yes I did take advantage of 
you-it was hard to keep track of you through the canvas top rear window when I 
was in the lead).  After 9.5 hours on the road it was good to get my 1st 
shower in 4 days. 

All in all it was a great time and Sandy did an outstanding job of 
coordinating a rather eventful weekend.  I can't wait 'til next year.  I don't 
know if I can say the same for Sandy. 

Bill Maloney 

Wayne, NJ USA 

maloney@wings.attmail.com 

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Date: 12 Oct 94 09:12:52 EDT
From: "R. Pierce Reid" <70004.4011@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Famous Person/news

Well, we can add a new famous person to the Land Rover celebrity list...

Apparently the British Army Officer Col. Hewitt (who is now infamous for his
kiss and tell story of his affair with Princess Diana) drives a Range Rover.  In
fact, according to the press, he recently fled England, driving his Range Rover
to his current hideout... a converted pigsty in France.  He left the country
with his mother.  No, I am not making this up... 

Also, Land Rover announced that they are opening a plant in South Africa in a
facility where BMW's are currently being manufactured.  They will make
Discoveries and Defenders and plan on setting up a dealer network of some 50
dealers.

Regards, 

R. P. Reid

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 09:33:37 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: LR World Mag

Just got a *free* copy of LRW magazine...the cover letter says they are
going to send it to the club for free!  That is a heck-of-a-sight better
than LRO has ever done. After publishing one of my *copyrighted* articles,
LRO wouldn't even give a year's subscription (or answer a polite letter for
that matter).  I'll bet things are going to change at LRO...PDQ.  Nothing
like a little competition to shake up complacency.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:12:27 -0600
From: hiner@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Hiner)
Subject: Peirce Manifolds

TeriAnn mentioned Pierce Manifolds some time back in a post -

I happened to be looking in AutoWeek and saw their ad -

Peirce Manifolds
800 874-3728
408 842-6667
fax 408 842-6673

Their two barrel weber kit with new intake manifold is $382.97.

Greg

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:19:40 -0400
From: bcw6@cornell.edu (Braman C. Wing)
Subject: Subscribe

Please subscribe me to the list. Thank you.

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:44:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: M-A-R-R = Fantastic

Ladies and Gentlemen may I have your attention Please.

Let's give a huge round of applause for the makers happeners of the MARR.

I honestly haven't had such a good time that I can remember, except
maybe the divorce. (only kidding, I was really miserable at the
divorce)heh,heh,heh.
It was really nice to put some faces with the netters here on the right
side of the continent. 
Thanks to Bill Maloney for his list of ten netters and his excelent
coverage of the event, and his good advice at the rally, and to Sandy
Grice & crew from ROAV for all their work to make it happen.
Special thanks to the McCaigs who let us all have such a nice place to gather.
I'm just sorry that I had to leave Sunday morning before all the
afternoon fun and festivities, and rain. 
As I was going up Rt 15 and 522, I could see the storm clouds rolling
over the Blue Ridge and I thought fondly of those that would be enjoying
the additional chance of red clay mud and soggy socks.

Definitely a sure thing for next year for me and Butterscotch. (Lassie)

Oh gimme a home, where the Rovers do roam, and the rain clouds lurk
heavy all day.
Where seldom is heard, a non british spoke word, and the gear oil and
dog pee mix free in the hay.      (meter???)
Home, Home in V A, where the banjos and the fiddles do play.
In the white one o nine
we will have a fine time
Till we turn and we must go away.       Home, that is.

Anxiously awaiting for 345 days to pass.
Later
Jon

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 15:48:04 -0400
From: berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff Berg)
Subject: Re: Mid Atlantic Rally

Bill Maloney did an excellent job of describing the "Middy" (Mid-Atlantic
Rallye, BBQ & Storm) so I'll just add a few additional comments to his
framework.  Not to worry, I'll be editing his message so you won't have to
reread the whole thing...

Everyone will enjoy hearing about my trip down as I took a "little" detour.
Having a wonderful time cruising with the top down, and enjoying not being
at work, I neglected to exit the Garden State Parkway.  I discovered this
when I reached the end of the line in Cape May.  I always wanted to go
there, but by boat, not car.  Anyhow, a little with a little back-tracking
I was well on my way to my second major mistake of the trip, I-95.  The
traffic from D.C. to Richmond, VA was absolutely unreal and it soon became
obvious that I wouldn't reach the campsite until hours after dark.  Instead
of driving into a strange camp at night I decided to drive until I got to
I-64, and then stop at the first motel I could find.  Once on I-64 imagine
my joy at discovering that there were no motels prior to the Zion Crossing
exit (which lead to the Rallye location.)  I elected to drive past this
exit and proceed 20 more miles into Charlottesville, a major metropolis
which surely had a wide selection of hotels.

Indeed it did, but alas there was no room at any of the inns.  Feeling much
like Joseph and Mary (though not with child) I headed all the way back to
Richmond and checked in to the Best Western at 1AM.

Up at 5, showered and shaved and hit the road.  Absolutely no problems
finding the camp site and by chance pitched my tent next to fellow netter
Andrew Steele and his faithful dog whose name I never learned.

After scarfing down some LRNA provided pastry it was time for the tech
session on getting the most out of the 2.25 engine.  My 88 became the
visual aid for this session. Soon thereafter I met Bill "Monty" Maloney
(It's the hat, the pants, the shirt, the LOOK! ;^}) and others.

>After lunch came the trials course.

I had decided that I wasn't going to drive the trials course.  Perhaps
after my car has weathered a winter and I've gained some offroad experience
I'll try it.  At any rate, I was able to catch a ride and enjoyed the
experience, albiet vicariously.

>I believe the winner was the Series 1 and
>the prize was a Camel Trophy lighter and something else I've forgotten.

Indeed the S1 was the winner.  The oldest car driven by, I believe, the
youngest driver.  He recieived an entire Camel Trophy prize pack including
the much desired (by me) Camel Trophy Zippo.

>Sunday before noon was a road rally to get to a catered lunch.  It helped to
>have no rally experience because a fork was a T, a T was an opportunity to
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>because everyone was gone once I reached the finish.  Most of the others did
>enjoy it and I beleive Jeff took 3rd place.

As Sandy previously explained it was a poker rally.  At each checkpoint you
drew a playing card, and the best hand won.  Fortunately, I was able to use
solar navigation to find east, and was lucky enough to draw a decent hand,
Kings over Jacks with an Ace in the hole.  I helped pay my way through
engineering school with hands like that, especially in straight (stud)
poker.  Too bad the other guys were playing draw.  There was some card
swapping going on at lunch.  No complaints though, third was good for a
Camel Trophy T-shirt, enamel pin, and a sticker pack.  Plus next year I'll
be all the wiser...
>Sunday afternoon the teeter totter cometition was held.  The Series I driver
>cursed and punched his steering wheel as he
>stalled his Rover, then dropped his jaw as he realized he was balanced at the
>top.
>of East and North were also challenging as I had no compass and it was so

Same guy that won the trials.  I think he took third in the Teeter.  That
Series 1 was truely a great little runabout.  As the Teeter contest was
going on the S1 guys were running it over the gravel ramp used to complete
the trial course -- crosswise!  And then across the hill in reverse.  He
even brought the car to a complete stop on the 45 degree gravel slope and
then got it moving again.  Amazing!

>There were no prizes for creative answers.

Though I was heartened that Sandy mentioned my answer for Vehicle with most
room for improvement: The Izuzu Amigo that one of the Road rally Marshalls
was driving.  Did other people vote the same way Sandy?
>A silent auction was also held.
>Camel Trophy Zippo lighter - $100 (yup, $100 or more was the top bid)
>stalled his Rover, then dropped his jaw as he realized he was balanced at the
>top.

I topped my bid out at $85, which was $20 higher than I planned to go.  The
woman with whom I'd been exchanging bids all weekend, usually uping the
anty by $2-$5 jumped right up to $100 and I decided there was no way I'd
scare her off.  It turns out she was buying it as a gift for her husband,
who is also the guy who won the People's Choice Award with a County 110.
Nice truck and nice folks, even if they did get my lighter!  (The funny
part is I don't smoke, I just light a lot of cigaretts in bars and thought
the C.T. lighter might make for interesting conversation.)  I'm glad I was
able to drive the price paid up though, as all proceeds went to ROAV.

Sunday night Bill pointed out that I had a small vacuum leak.  He went on
to locate and tighten the loose elbow, providing a valuable learning
experience in the process.  Bill was also generous enough to "loan" me two
quarts of oil, as I had burned through all of my spare 20w50 on the trip
down.  (Rover seems a little thirsty when running at a constant 65.)  I
spent the latter part of the evening swapping tall tales with Mike, Russ
and Ben in the Canadian camp.  Great guys all!  "Monty" Maloney was already
catching ZZZs in his mansion/tent, preparing for an early departure the
next morning.
>Monday morning I left in convoy with Jeff well before dawn.  My CB was next to
>useless.
>stalled his Rover, then dropped his jaw as he realized he was balanced at the

Two suggestions Bill. 1) Ground plane for the antenna, your spare tire/mag
mount might not quite cut it. 2) External speaker for the CB.  Even a 4"
Radio Shack cheapie, like the one mounted in my dash, really makes things
sound clearer.

Speaking of early Monday morning, we got quite a scare.  Bill and I got
into our respective trucks.  Bill was wearing his "Monty" hat, and I had on
my Tilley Endurable "Jungle-Jim" lid.  We drive for about 2 hours and
decide to take a gas stop.  We both jump out of our Rovers and do a
doubletake as we notice that we're both now wearing identical Jimmy
Buffett/Air Margaritaville "baseball" caps.  Apparently we both had
"general public" caps stashed away.  Then and there I decided we wouldn't
go waltzing into any truck stops together.

>One thing I learned is that when convoying with another vehicle the
>trailing vehicle gets the better gas mileage.  Even if it has a full roofrack,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>was in the lead).  After 9.5 hours on the road it was good to get my 1st
>shower in 4 days.

Lead truck is definitely more taxing.  Especially when you have to decide
whether or not to pass.  I definitely could "hear" Bill's curses at some of
the decisions I made.  Still, I was happy to do it considering his
alternate route shaved about three hours off my trip.  Besides, it was fun
to not travel alone, even if our CB conversation was minimal.  And having a
top-notch mechanic within sight definitely relieves a lot of the worry that
us non-engine savvy types experience.
>All in all it was a great time and Sandy did an outstanding job of
>coordinating a rather eventful weekend.  I can't wait 'til next year.  I don't
>know if I can say the same for Sandy.
>But more importantly, it's less mentally taxing, in that you don't have to

Ditto!  And also that it was great to meet all of the netters, Chris Laws
and the rest of the Bay State Hooligans, and Bruce Mcerney face to face.
It was also gratifying to receive so much positive feedback on the way my
truck came out.  I think that deep down I'd been dreading the expert
response, and apparently in the end I didn't do so bad for a rookie.
(Though the guy who designed the ralley t-shirts didn't like the fact that
I went with cloth seats...)  I'll post some pictures to the Web site soon,
as well as send a set off to Sandy.

Regards

JAB
Rowayton, CT

==                                                                 ==
 Jeffrey A. Berg              Interactive Telecommunications Program
 Technical Administrator                         New York University
                          berg@acf2.nyu.edu
                          =================
               My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
          My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
                       Taste for the good life.
                      I can see it no other way.
                           --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)
==                                                                 ==

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Subject: A bit of a diesel emergency
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:56:00 -0700
From: Mike Fredette <mfredett@ichips.intel.com>

Howdy,

	Ok folks, heres our chance to earn our bread and
butter. A very nice couple from Austria is here in North 
America touring the fruited plains in thier 74 Ser lll
2.25 diesel 109. Things were going along fine until about
Winnepeg, Canada, when abruptly, the engine lost power on
the top end. The symptoms are as follows; the engine
idles just fine, and revs to 4000+ RPMs in the first
three gears, pulling fairly sluggishly, even for a diesel.
The minute you put it in fourth, it loses power, and
can only keep the truck moving along at 45-47 MPH.
Previously, they were able to cruise comfortably at 65
MPH. It has had the following things done to it.
Firstly, the engine was overhauled 60k kilometers ago
before they came to NA, barely broken in by diesel
standards. Now the list of attempted fixes. Overhauled
the distribution pump, twice. The first time, when the
pump was bled initially, black oil came out, indicating
a failed lower seal, allowing crankcase oil to seep in.
This was fixed on the first overhaul and timing, and on
subsequent bleedings (sounds gruesome), there was no
oil detected, other than diesel oil of course. The
injectors have been replaced three times, no help
there. The fuel filters have been replaced and even at one
point, bypassed by running with a can on the bonnet
feeding directly into the distributor pump to see if
there was any obstruction in the fuel system.The regular
fuel pump was also overhauled and then replaced. The air
intake was disconnected at the filter, no help. The
exhaust has been disconnected at the silencer, no
obstructions, no help. Fuel consumption has increased
about 3.5 liters per 100k to 14 liters per 100
kilometers. compression check reveals 490 to 520 pounds
across the board, no leak down to speak of, no sticking
valves. Valves have been adjusted and the timing cover
has been off and the cam timing checked and verified as
being correct. No drag in the drive train, ie. dragging
brakes, transmission brake, slipping clutch, fozen
wheel bearings, etc. All those would be fairly easy to
catch by the smell and or noise, but the thing coasts just
fine. The injectors were tested also as they were
replaced, they spray just fine. Basically, we're out of
ideas. HELP HELP HELP all you disel gurus out there.
The only possibility I can come up with was that the
camshaft has gone flat, allowing reasonable low speeds
but falling of at the top end. But this would not be an
abrupt change, it would be gradual. The problem came on
abruptly. The engine makes no more than the usual
diesel coffee grinder noises, ie, nothing that can be
identified as being abnormal. SO put on your thinking
caps and come up with the brilliant answer folks, a
nice Austrian couple is counting on us.

				Rgds
				Mike Fredette
			        mfredett@ichips.intel.com
				Portland, Oregon

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Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 20:58:45 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

     I had a great time at the Mid-Atlantic Rally.  Sandy did a 
great time organizing it.  Not only did I get to winch out Ranger 
Rovers, but some Land Rovers also needed to be winched out.
     The Toronto crowd found some dirt roads and fire breaks that 
provided a lot of challenging track to follow.  Not for the 
feint of heart.  I did it all, despite not having a working 
starter mortor or the ability to use a hand crank. 
     On Saturday, while I was waiting for the trials course to 
start, I wandered around and took a count of the Rovers present.  
Here what I saw:

 1  SI 80
11  SII/SIIA 88s
 9  SII/SIIA 109s
 8  SIII 88s
 3  SIII 109s
 1  110
 2  US Defender 110s
 8  US Defender 90s
14  Range Rovers
 5  Discoveries
 1  Rover Car (I forgot to write down the type)
 1  Lightweight
 1  SIIA 109 Doormobile
 1  Range Rover rolling chassis with Land Rover 90 upper parts

Which gives a total of 66.  Far short of Sandy's total of 80+ 
vehicles, but I only counted those present at a certain time.  
Lots of Rovers though. 

-Benjamin Smith
 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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